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Sunday, August 30, 2020

A man wearing a hat featuring a symbol of far-right group Patriot Prayer was fatally shot during clashes between supporters of President Trump and anti-racism protesters in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday night, per multiple reports.

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To the Righties, it seems the only goal is to kill all Liberals.

#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-08-30 08:58 AM | Reply

It's the only thing these "people" understand.

Say, was Tucker Carlson or Rush Limbaugh out there?

No?

I wonder why..

They were both safe and sound. Possibly sleeping soundly knowing that their hired guns had their back.

Weird, right?

This thing they've been cheerleading for many many years is going down but they're some where else.

This is their golden hour and they're missing it.

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I often wonder that as well. As a country we lean conservative our president, senate and Supreme Court are all conservative what exactly is the goal for a second civil war if you already control 2/3 of government and have a choke hold on the third branch? What policies are you hoping for, what would change in your dream scenario after winning a civil war?

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-08-30 09:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have no idea.

I'm not calling for one. I can't imagine what it would look like.

What would happen, what would be a positive result?

What change, resulting from a civil war, would you want?

I think these questions should go to the folks calling for a civil war.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2020-08-30 09:16 AM | Reply

I think these questions should go to the folks calling for a civil war.
#3 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I've been asking them here for a good year or so and still haven't gotten an answer. Once Boaz insinuated that he just wants to kill Liberals who don't do what he says, but he wouldn't commit.

#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-08-30 09:22 AM | Reply

>>What policies are you hoping for, what would change in your dream scenario after winning a civil war?

>>I think these questions should go to the folks calling for a civil war.

I think they're just people stoked up with hatred, and have a basement full of guns. TV tells them it's a team sport, so you know, go out and score some points. Boaz would know more.

This guy who was shot - wow that's some impressive marksmanship! Should not have brought his torso to a gun show!

#6 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-08-30 09:26 AM | Reply

Another rioter shot in self defense by a patriot.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2020-08-30 09:28 AM | Reply

Law enforcement protects liberal (in the democracy/philosophy sense) values.
Not anymore, it seems.

#8 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-08-30 09:35 AM | Reply

4/5

I agree and if it's folks like Boaz, I'm not concerned it's a real serious possibility.

Folks like you describe aren't calling for change. They just want uppity folks to STFU.

But are we headed towards an event where some militia guns down a large group of protestors?

I can't believe it hasn't happened yet.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2020-08-30 09:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

>>But are we headed towards an event where some militia guns down a large group of protesters?
I can't believe it hasn't happened yet.

I can't either, but I think its going to happen, sadly.

#10 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-08-30 09:41 AM | Reply

>What policies are you hoping for, what would change in your dream scenario after winning a civil war?
#2

They haven't thought that far.
WINNING!!!!!!

#11 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-08-30 09:50 AM | Reply

Some background on these dangerous fools the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think

#12 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-08-30 10:06 AM | Reply

I'm watching video from last night right now on tv and all I see is mainly white people screaming and arguing with other white people.

And BLM is catching the blame for this?

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-30 10:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And BLM is catching the blame for this?

#2 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

If they are it's from "people" who were here and all over social media calling the pudgy little bastard in Wisconsin a "hero."

#14 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 10:09 AM | Reply

And about those folks who call the pudgy little bastard a "hero", they weren't out there either.

This is what you wanted.

And you're missing it.

#15 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 10:11 AM | Reply

"Earlier in the evening, Portland police tweeted: "There have been some instances of violence between demonstrators and counterdemonstrators. Officers have intervened and in some cases made arrests."

I wonder, when police intervene on behalf of the leftist mob, do they approve or disapprove?

I say the cops should just stay out of this completely. At the very least it's what the lefties in Portland are asking for.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 10:24 AM | Reply

What happens when the left shoots back? And they will. Why does everyone think the shooting will be one sided? If a militia opens up on protesters things could go bad quick.

Liberal politics, doesn't necessarily mean they won't shoot back. If not at the time,then later.

I see no good outcome here. I see civil unrest and violence over stupid ------.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-08-30 10:26 AM | Reply

What happens when the left shoots back
- isn't that exactly what happened here?

#18 | Posted by homerj at 2020-08-30 10:30 AM | Reply

It may well continue. Pitched battles in the street,with the police afraid to intervene is not impossible. This could get real ugly.

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-08-30 10:33 AM | Reply

Right wing agitators have been instigating violence

Details: It wasn't immediately clear if the death was connected to skirmishes that erupted after some 1,000 Trump supporters rallied in the city, the Oregonian notes. The Portland Police Bureau said in a statement they had opened a homicide investigation into the shooting, which happened at 8:46p.m.

- Police tweeted about a "political caravan" holding up traffic just before the shooting.

- "There have been some instances of violence between demonstrators and counterdemonstrators," the police said. "Officers have intervened and in some cases made arrests."

- Times reporter Mike Baker shared video from the scene of people he identified as Trump supporters unleashing paintballs and pepper spray while passing in a caravan of vehicles.

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-08-30 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Last I read, the guy who was shot was part of Patriot Prayer.

#21 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 11:07 AM | Reply

"Right wing agitators have been instigating violence"

And those one the left?

Crickets?

#22 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 11:14 AM | Reply

Exactly AU - what the hell are Trump supporters doing unleashing paintballs and pepper spray on protesters? That's asking for it - that's begging for a response.

Trump wants this - he needs this to win.

#23 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 11:17 AM | Reply

And those one the left?

#22 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Seen the videos from last night in Portland?

Trucks loaded down with people spraying people with gas, paint balls, driving aggressively through crowded streets.

One of them ran into one of these "cancel culture" types that I hear so much about.

It will happens again today, I'm sure.

#24 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 11:21 AM | Reply

And those one the left?

Mostly against the corrupt police practices, and previouslly (and no longer) Trump's Gestapo. There were a few incidents with anarchists (both flavors) in Portland that were totally unacceptable. Most of what happens is the police declare "unlawful assembly" so they can go in under a thin veneeer of "law" and they start the violence, which gets a reaction, so then the Police can declare "Riot!"

I watched it happen live where I live. It's a well known tactic spread throughout all PDs in the US.

Were you out protesting the German government's COVID-19 policies that have made your life safe and comfortable enough so you think you can lecture us on COVID-19?

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 11:22 AM | Reply

"Mostly against the corrupt police practices, and previouslly (and no longer) Trump's Gestapo. There were a few incidents with anarchists (both flavors) in Portland that were totally unacceptable."

A few incidents?

How about every ------------- night!

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 11:28 AM | Reply

"Were you out protesting the German government's COVID-19 policies that have made your life safe and comfortable enough so you think you can lecture us on COVID-19?"

No. Are you referencing the Berlin event yesterday?

I don't live close to Berlin.

#28 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 11:30 AM | Reply

But 18,000 Germans did go out and protest.

I'm a guest in this country. It's not my place to protest one way or the other.

#29 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 11:31 AM | Reply

A few incidents that were totally unacceptable.

Yes.

Not "every ------------- night" drama queen. Now I know why democracy scares you so bad.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 11:32 AM | Reply

#29 - totally reasonable.

I do love Germany, though almost all my time there was spent in smaller towns in Bavaria and Munchen.

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 11:33 AM | Reply

dudes in the big trucks will be rioting past Sunday night.

#26 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

The maybe the "riots" will go to them.

That's what you're advocating, right?

#32 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 11:37 AM | Reply

Bullety but mostly peaceful.

#33 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-30 12:15 PM | Reply

"Not "every ------------- night" drama queen. Now I know why democracy scares you so bad."

You're right.

In Portland, it been a riot about every other night.

And if you're trying to make the case that riots are a necessary part of democracy, you're arguing against democracy.

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 12:22 PM | Reply

Trump wants this - he needs this to win.

#23 | Posted by YAV

He's doing everything he can to stoke violence for his own gain.

#36 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-08-30 12:23 PM | Reply

#22 | Posted by madbomber FLAG: Whataboutism

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-08-30 12:25 PM | Reply

In Portland, it been a riot about every other night.

And if you're trying to make the case that riots are a necessary part of democracy, you're arguing against democracy.

I explained that, and yes, protests are a vital part of democracy, especially when democracy goes awry. Your argument requires one "riot" to equal all other "riots." Your argument requires those that make the charge "riot" to be accurate and truthful. Your argument requires that those that react to police tactics, meant to provoke a response, be delegitimized so the term "riot" will apply.

Reexamine your premise.

#38 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 12:52 PM | Reply

BTW - last night in Portland with all the Trump supporters, shooting paintballs at people and teargassing them really was a -----------.

#39 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 01:02 PM | Reply

"In Portland, it been a riot about every other night."

A flaming trash barrel is not really a riot.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 01:06 PM | Reply

So has Civil War 2.0 started? Is that what happened this weekend? It sort of seems that way.

#41 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 01:10 PM | Reply

#40 Looting, setting buildings on fire, assaults, etc are all riot activities. But you are right, setting large dumpsters on fire is perfectly normal behavior as is breaking windows and vandalizing property.

#43 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 01:21 PM | Reply

It's all a riot if it insults Trump.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-30 01:22 PM | Reply

So has Civil War 2.0 started? Is that what happened this weekend? It sort of seems that way.
#41 | Posted by cbob

The question is, how will we know when it's over?

#46 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-08-30 01:27 PM | Reply

42. Just watching Tim Pool's coverage. It seems there was no fight. It was a summary execution.

#47 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 01:30 PM | Reply

"I explained that, and yes, protests are a vital part of democracy, especially when democracy goes awry."

Really?

So if the Proudboi's were setting dumpsters on fire, you'd be cool with it? The Oath Keepers? Mongols MC? ISIS?

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 01:31 PM | Reply

42/48:

youtu.be

#50 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 01:34 PM | Reply

"A flaming trash barrel is not really a riot."

No?

It's a thoughtful act of political expression?

#51 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 01:34 PM | Reply

Is the racist orange turd going to send his goons back in to gas and beat Portland's moms?

#52 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-30 01:36 PM | Reply

"If this violence somehow benefits Trump you'd think these Democrat mayors and governors would actually do something to put a stop to all of this."

They can't.

If the Dems don't genuflect to the far left, they won't come out an vote.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And the far left are the squeakiest wheel under the Democratic Party's tent/

#53 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-30 01:38 PM | Reply

This is exactly what Trump has been wanting. He has intentionally divided America, focusing entirely on his base, has agitated for rough treatment of suspects by police, said we need to hurt a few people, need to clamp down, all that kind of stuff, and has blamed every problem we have encountered on someone else.

He wants riots and mayhem so he can invoke the Insurrection Act, send federal troops into our cities, crack a few skulls, kill some Democrats, declare martial law if necessary, and either cancel the election or hope the violence tricks enough traumatized voters into thinking his "law and order" BS is effective.

We are at a sad place, and it is all happening on Donald Trump's watch.

#58 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 01:47 PM | Reply

"He has intentionally divided America"

It takes two to tango.

These riots are ostensibly over police killing unarmed black people and systemic racism. Those two things have very little to do with Trump. These rioters aren't protesting Trump, BTW.

#60 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 01:48 PM | Reply

"He wants riots and mayhem so he can invoke the Insurrection Act, send federal troops into our cities, crack a few skulls, kill some Democrats, declare martial law if necessary, and either cancel the election or hope the violence tricks enough traumatized voters into thinking his "law and order" BS is effective."

Yes, he's done none of those things. Trump isn't what is driving all of this violence. Your assertions reek of irrational hatred.

#61 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 01:50 PM | Reply

"A Trump supporter is executed in cold blood and all anyone on this page can do is somehow blame Trump."

Trump is the President who said we have to get very rough with protesters.

I would use the word "credit" rather than "blame."

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 01:58 PM | Reply

#62 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

We know you represent the party of no personal responsibility.

But the words of a president matter. Even if they are moronic and divisive.

In fact, when they are divisive they matter even more.

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 01:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"GREAT PATRIOTS!" Trump wrote as he shared video of his supporters driving into Portland to confront the protesters.

#65 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 02:02 PM | Reply

It looks like the perp has been id'ed. I don't do Twitter, but here is the Pool coverage. youtu.be

#66 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 02:05 PM | Reply

#61 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

My opinion of Trump is quite rational. I've never seen such a terrible person in the White House. I've never seen America in such a precarious condition. What efforts has he made to bring about peace on the streets of the country he is supposed to lead? Why doesn't he make an effort to create a dialogue, rather than constantly incite?

This is what Russia wants us to do, to devolve, to question our democratic principles, to become mired in internal turmoil, to fight over fascism. Other regimes that don't like us are licking their chops as well. America can only lose if this goes on.

If Trump had a conscience, he'd do everything in his power to keep it from happening. But he's eating this up, working with his PR team at Fox to encourage anger and violence.

#67 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"GREAT PATRIOTS!" Trump wrote as he shared video of his supporters driving into Portland to confront the protesters.

#65 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Exactly what I was talking about in #67.

#68 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 02:08 PM | Reply

Trump, like the police, is all about escalating violence, especially against unarmed people.

Trump is an instigator.

Like when he Tweeted "LIBERATE MICHIGAN" for example.

And when he praised the paintball minutemen looking for a fight as "Patriots."

The only people who refuse to see it are Deplorables.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 02:13 PM | Reply

"A Trump supporter is executed in cold blood and all anyone on this page can do is somehow blame Trump."

I'm perfectly happy to blame the Second Amendment too.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 02:14 PM | Reply

"George Orwell said that men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

Signed,
Breonna Taylor

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 02:15 PM | Reply

Sleep well, White America.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 02:16 PM | Reply

#48 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You've heard the phrase "----- for pyros?"

This would be their equivalent.

Dumpster Fires for Freedom Fighters.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 02:31 PM | Reply

Trump is letting right-wing extremists 'start a race war'

www.insider.com

And the right-wing filth on this site are cheering Trump on.

#77 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-30 03:01 PM | Reply

George Orwell said that men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. That includes those on the left.
{SNIP}

#57 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

No, he didn't.

What he actually wrote was "Those who 'abjure' violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf."

Those on the right will find that "leftists" are more than willing to fight.

And power comes from more places than the barrel of a gun.

#79 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-08-30 03:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The left has become totally vile.
#74 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

The same guy defending Kyle Rittenhouse for murdering liberals.

The same guy who couldn't care if 180,000 people are dead due to Trump's ineptitude.

Is upset a Trumpublican is dead and is calling the left "vile".

ZetaTroll if fine with dead Americans. Just don't harm the people who hate the same as he does.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:05 PM | Reply

#78

You're the garbage who cheered when Breonna Taylor was executed for sleeping while black.

#81 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-30 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is letting demanding right-wing extremists 'start a race war'.

Of course he is. That's what the picture with the upside down and backwards bible in front of the church symbolized. drudge.com

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:10 PM | Reply

#83 | POSTED BY ZETATROLL

I'm not responsible for "leftists".

But.

I know you don't care that Trump has let 180,000 Americans die.

I know you don't care about the dead in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

I see you pretending to be upset your fellow Trump supporter is dead.

I know you're a troll.

That's all I need to know, to know you're garbage.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:17 PM | Reply

#74 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Isn't that special?

A Deplorable calling someone vile.

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 03:18 PM | Reply

#85 Executing a man in cold blood simply due to his politics is vile. If you are incapable of acknowledging that then you are vile too.

#86 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 03:28 PM | Reply

Executing a man in cold blood simply due to his politics is vile.
#86 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Unless it's Kyle Rittenhouse.

Then you can't get enough dead liberals!

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:30 PM | Reply

#85 I find your politics to be disgusting. However, I would never advocate that you should be harmed over your views and certainly not killed for having your views. I fully endorse your 1st Amendment rights to express your views and I would never suggest that your right to vote should be taken away. If that makes me "a deplorable" then I wear that label with honor.

#88 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 03:30 PM | Reply

Executing a man in cold blood simply due to his politics is vile.
#86 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Unless it's 180,000 dead from Trump's Covid-19 virus.

Then, "Who Cares!?"

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:32 PM | Reply

#87 That kid was stupid for going into a tinderbox armed with a rifle. Based upon all of the videos stitched together by the NYT it really does appear he was acting in self-defense. The page on this site that addresses this topic contained some very thoughtful discussions.

Lemme guess - you are happy this guy was executed and he got what he deserved, right?

#90 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 03:32 PM | Reply

A tad executiony but mostly peaceful.

#91 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-30 03:33 PM | Reply

You really do like to try and change the subject don't you. I hate to break it to you but that virus originated out of the Wuhan region of China and was spread across the globe because the Chinese government silenced the doctors who were trying to sound the alarms.

#92 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 03:33 PM | Reply

#91 It was definitely a mostly peaceful execution.

#93 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 03:34 PM | Reply

I find your politics to be disgusting.

I find you cheering on Kyle Rittenhouse, as you did, to be disgusting.

I find you ignoring 180,000 dead Americans, to be disgusting.

If that makes me "a deplorable" then I wear that label with honor.
#88 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Of course you do.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:35 PM | Reply

Lemme guess - you are happy this guy was executed and he got what he deserved, right?
#90 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Why? Just because you're happy Kyle Rittenhouse killed liberals?

That's projection. That's you.

Go get a therapist.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:36 PM | Reply

I hate to break it to you but blah blah blah
#92 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Trump called the virus a hoax and went golfing.

He ignored it when it's hitting blue states.

180,000 Americans are dead due to Trump.

You couldn't careless.

All you care about is one dead Trump supporter.

Politics over country.

That's all you got.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 03:41 PM | Reply

"I'm 100% Antifa" said the suspect on Instagram.

#97 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 04:38 PM | Reply

How's his GoFundMe doing?

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 04:39 PM | Reply

"I'm 100% Antifa" said the suspect on Instagram.
#97 | POSTED BY KAREN

Thanks Karen.

The right wing boogeyman is behind everything.

He's even under your bed!

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 04:44 PM | Reply

Funny how the only "evidence" of Antifa was a right wing twitter page.

Conspiracy Theories, without them, Trumpublicans would have nothing.

#100 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 04:46 PM | Reply

99, Jeez, lady, you sure are unhinged. I don't even know who you are, but I sure seem to live in your head for some reason. But your type are a dime a dozen, so all look alike to me.

"Karen" - hilarious! You're a real original raconteur. Are you a professional writer?

#101 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 04:50 PM | Reply

100. Liar. The quote is from his own social media.

If your ideology doesn't comport with the truth, perhaps it's your ideology that needs to change - not the truth.

#102 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 04:55 PM | Reply

You gotta love people who are more concerned about anti-Fascists than they are actual Fascists.

They are the ones with the MAGA caps on.

#103 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-30 04:57 PM | Reply

"1 killed in Portland amid clashes"

Why didn't the police prevent this from escalating?
Because the police are on the side of those doing the escalating.

#104 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 04:59 PM | Reply

103. You wouldn't know a real fascist if Generalismo Francisco Franco crawled up your skirt and bit you on your pito.

#105 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 05:00 PM | Reply

#105 Please explain to us the differences between Trump and a real fascist.

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#105

You only have to look in the mirror to see one....

www.nytimes.com

Franco is only second to Putin in Trump's Daily Hero Worship.

#107 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-30 05:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- the differences between Trump and a real fascist.

There are, of course, tons more similarities:

drudge.com

#108 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-30 05:05 PM | Reply

Executing a man in cold blood simply due to his politics is vile. If you are incapable of acknowledging that then you are vile too.

#86 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

How do you know that is what happened? They haven't caught the shooter yet.

Do you even know what "in cold blood" means?

#109 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 05:06 PM | Reply

Thanks, but, I didn't ask you, Corky.

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:07 PM | Reply

If your ideology doesn't comport with the truth, perhaps it's your ideology that needs to change - not the truth.

#102 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

If you are a trump supporter your ideology has nothing to do with the truth.

20,000 plus lies = over 200,000 dead Americans.

You built that.

Don't lecture us on the truth until you start honoring it.

#111 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's why I said, "of course".

And my comment was pretty obviously not directed a you.

#112 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-30 05:10 PM | Reply

73 posts and not a single lefty even condemned this brutal act of violence.
The left has become totally vile.
#74 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Hmmm.
You must have Joe Biden plonked.
His condemnation is right up there at the top of the thread.
Surprised you didn't see it, or figure out Joe Biden's supporters agree with Joe Biden.

#113 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:11 PM | Reply

I am aware Corky.
I simply want the Trump supporter who made the claim that Trump isn't remotely close to a fascist to explain himself.
I'm likewise aware that it's probably too much to expect such a thing to happen.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:13 PM | Reply

111. Nice deflection. I wasn't a Trump supporter until about three days ago. I sure am now.

#115 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 05:14 PM | Reply

114. Your fatuously idiotic sophistry has no purchase with me. Fo your own research.

#116 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 05:15 PM | Reply

Fo your own research.
#116 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

I am doing my own research.
My research consists of consulting the primary source for the claim.

Thanks for reading and understanding.

#117 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:17 PM | Reply

"I wasn't a Trump supporter until about three days ago."

Oooh, interesting.
Did Rittenhouse convert you?
Was it the Patriot Crocs?

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:18 PM | Reply

Nice deflection. I wasn't a Trump supporter until about three days ago. I sure am now.

#115 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

So you admit you support lying. 20,000 of them.

And are OK with your cult leaders criminal negligence leading to over 200,000 dead Americans.

You don't support the truth so don't pretend you support the truth and don't lecture us on it.

#119 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 05:27 PM | Reply

Snoofy, you're not a philosopher or logician. You're a sophist bore. Get over yourself. Your "irony" falls flat. Your willful obtuseness falls flat. You're a phony. You're like the guy who sat next to me in Philosophy 101 and thought he was smarter and more zen than the professor. If you really can't see a difference between real fascism and modern Republicanism, then you're a ------- idiot. It's a neat Dianetics trick to demand a dissertation from anyone who makes an indisputable truth that doesn't conform to your delusional belief system. It's low-grade trickery designed time stop discourse in its tracks. I'm not playing your ludicrous Snoofy Games.

#120 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 05:34 PM | Reply

Karabekian, are you gonna tell us what radicalized you?

Was it... something you saw on the Internet?

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:37 PM | Reply

"If you really can't see a difference between real fascism and modern Republicanism, then you're a ------- idiot."

Since you can see it so plainly, then prove to the whole DR how much of a big dummy I am.

#122 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:38 PM | Reply

Re#120.

Karabbean.

Your ad hominems just make you look foolish and stupid and very Trumptilian.

If that is what you were aiming for then congrats.

Mission accomplished.

#123 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 05:39 PM | Reply

"You're a phony."

No, I'm not.
I'll cajole people, and I'll derisively mock their pig-headed ignorance.
But I'm not a phony.

You've never struck me as this angry before.
You're obviously speaking from a place of anger right now.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:43 PM | Reply

"Isn't that special?

A Deplorable calling someone vile."
POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2020-08-30 03:18 PM | R

Hypocrite.

#125 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 05:44 PM | Reply

"It's a neat Dianetics trick to demand a dissertation from anyone who makes an indisputable truth that doesn't conform to your delusional belief system."

I really do see what you're saying, because that's a real tactic.
But that's not what I did.

I asked you to explain what makes Trump so much "not a Fascist" that any idiot can see it.
Here's what I see: For starters, he re-Tweeted Mussolini four and he keeps a copy of Mussolini's speeches by his bed.
And this is from four years ago, before he was even elected President.

If that's not fascist, what is it? A fascist fanboi? Is he just doing opposition research or something? There needs to be an explanation. If you put half the effort into explaining yourself that you did into assailing me, we could be having a discussion right now.

Anyway I have to get some work done (laugh all you want) so maybe I'll check back later.
Be well.

#126 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-30 05:49 PM | Reply

Hypocrite.

#125 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

Hey guys. I think I am getting the hang of Trumptilian.

This is how they communicate.

They hurl insults like a monkey hurls it's feces.

Or children in the kindergarten play ground.

So I think the correct response here is,

"I know you are! "

"But what am I? "

#127 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-30 05:49 PM | Reply

POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

Karen here is afraid of black people and supports Trump because he's more concerned about Wall Street than Main Street.

He even admitted it's all about his retirement.

Screw everything else.

Typical republican. He only cares about himself.

#128 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 05:53 PM | Reply

I wasn't a Trump supporter until about three days ago. I sure am now.
#115 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

Watching a kid kill liberals was the motivation you needed.

#129 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 05:55 PM | Reply

128. Jeez, lady. Are you stalking me? You're one creepy chick.

#130 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 06:05 PM | Reply

Jeez, lady. Are you stalking me? You're one creepy chick.
#130 | POSTED BY KAREN

Are you senile?

You cried about it to me as justification for Trump dumping over a trillion tax dollars into the stock market.

#131 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 06:09 PM | Reply

127. You and Snoofy will be fine, Donner. It's not like I called you a Nazi or anything. What you got going?

#132 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 06:11 PM | Reply

131. I don't think I ever cried to you. If you're the person I'm thinking of, I believe I said I wasn't going to root against the stock market just because it would hurt the president. I believed that when Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc were President, too., because it would be ostentatiously idiotic to do so.

#133 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 06:15 PM | Reply

These riots are ostensibly over police killing unarmed black people and systemic racism. Those two things have very little to do with Trump.

It's amazing how nothing is ever Trump's responsibility. Of course police killings and racism are the president's responsibility to address. THE TOUGH PROBLEMS ARE WHAT YOU ELECT A PRESIDENT FOR.

Instead, we've had four years of POTUS making excuses and blaming other politicians all the time and some people to their staggering idiocy want four more years of that.

#134 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 06:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I wasn't a Trump supporter until about three days ago. I sure am now.

People who claim "I wasn't going to vote for Trump until X happened" were always going to vote for Trump.

#135 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 06:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

135. I wasn't going to vote, at all, and it my state it wouldn't matter if I did or not. As far as who I want to win now? Trump.

#136 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The lying continues.
"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."
www.snopes.com
#137 | POSTED BY SOCKPUPPET

You're so dishonest, I don't know why I bother.

Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. " President Donald Trump accused Democrats of "politicizing" the deadly coronavirus during a campaign rally here on Friday, claiming that the outbreak is "their new hoax" as he continued to downplay the risk in the U.S.

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "They have no clue, they can't even count their votes in Iowa."

"This is their new hoax," Trump continued, adding that attacking the White House's response to the coronavirus had become the Democratic Party's "single talking point."

www.nbcnews.com

#139 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 06:42 PM | Reply

An eyewitness to the shooting in Portland told the Washington Post that the victim sprayed multiple people with bear mace and was shot moments later.

www.washingtonpost.com

"I heard the yelling, and I turned, and the first thing I saw was the bear mace being sprayed, and then right on the heels of that were the gunshots," said Justin Dunlap, a lighting technician from nearby Vancouver, Wash., who recorded the widely circulated video and broadcast it live on Facebook.

Dunlap, 44, said when the gunshots were fired, "the guy who had sprayed the bear mace turned and took three or four steps and then went face down. While he was doing that, the two that he had bear maced ran back in my general direction and kind of went around the corner."

The video of the shooting from Justin Dunlap is 20-30 feet away and does appear to have a spraying sound and a cloud before the first shot, but it's hard to tell definitively.

Dunlap told the New York Post the victim had "earlier maced people, and someone could be heard on his video shouting that the victim was a '------------ who has been pushing people and jumping people the entire time.'"

"That guy has been f"king with people the entire time," [someone] shouted."

Spraying bear mace and similar sprays has been prosecuted as felony assault. I don't know how it would impact a self-defense claim, but reportedly the claims that the victim wasn't doing anything at all are not true.

In any case it's another situation where someone brought a gun to political demonstrations, a terrible phenomenon in the Trump era that will continue to wreak carnage in this country.

#141 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#136 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, we're all totally shocked you're going with the mentally deficient criming bigot who can't win without cheating. Stunned that you've chosen the guy who tweets verbal arson from the toilet, pouring gasoline on the fire that threatens to burn his country to the ground, just so he can claim "victory" and get back at everyone who's ever crossed him.

This is my shocked face.

#144 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 06:52 PM | Reply

We don't need to hear any Trump humper spin about how it was OK for Trump to use the word "hoax" when talking about the pandemic in the spring. That kind of talk made a lot of people think it was a hoax and some of them are now dead. You're quibbling over words because Trump never speaks clearly about anything, but the bottom line is that he used the word "hoax" and it caused a lot of harm.

#146 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 06:54 PM | Reply

We don't need to hear any Trump humper spin about how it was OK for Trump to use the word "hoax" when talking about the pandemic in the spring
#146 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-08-30 06:54 PM | REPLY

I for one, never said the virus was a hoax. What I did say and still do say aligns with the CDC as of Friday when they quietly adjusted their numbers.. You should look it up.

#147 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 06:56 PM | Reply

#144 - I shouldn't have made that post about you, Karabekian. I was expressing disgust that anyone could consider Trump worthy of a vote. He's America's most dangerous man.

#149 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 07:14 PM | Reply

149. You're okay, CBOB. Everyone's been running hot lately.

#150 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 07:29 PM | Reply

#144 - I shouldn't have made that post about you, Karabekian. I was expressing disgust that anyone could consider Trump worthy of a vote. He's America's most dangerous man.

#149 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2020-08-30 07:14 PM

I'm sure Clownshak feels the same about me too...

#151 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 07:49 PM | Reply

He's America's most dangerous man.
#149 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2020-08-30 07:14 PM

To be absolutely honest, I have no clue what you're talking about.. he's a politician. He hasn't done anything as vile as the Bushes, Clintons or the Obamas.What war did he start, what country did he exterminate their leader and what trade deal did he sign that sold the country down the ------ river? You and the radical left are so usurped in this ---- that its unbelievable. DJT has not done one of those things. and I will remind you that I voted for Obama because he was going to bring the wars in the Middle East to an end - but didn't and my kid ended up ver there... Liars, all of them and now you want me to put my vote behind Joe Biden? Never.

#152 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 08:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#152 Word.

#153 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 08:26 PM | Reply

He hasn't done anything as vile as the Bushes, Clintons or the Obamas.

Trump has done, and continues to do, much worse.

The fact you choose to be blind to it, is on you.

#154 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 08:28 PM | Reply

Trump has done, and continues to do, much worse.
The fact you choose to be blind to it, is on you.

#154 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-08-30 08:28 PM | REPLY

---- you, go crawl back in your cave. This is an adult conversation. Isn't it like laundry day for you?

#155 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 08:31 PM | Reply

Word.
#153 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

To your alien mother!

Big ups to your sister and your brother!

#156 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 08:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

All my life I voted Democrat. We could have had it all but Hillary stole it from Bernie and lost to Trump. Then came the Russiagate plot. Now Biden. And the riots that my party won't condemn.

It's over. The middle class and working class have to band together and hollow out the Republican party and take it over, because the Dem's can't be saved.

#157 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 08:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

---- you, go crawl back in your cave. This is an adult conversation. Isn't it like laundry day for you?
#155 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Triggered^^

#158 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 08:32 PM | Reply

Triggered^^

#158 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-08-30 08:32 PM | REPLY

Oh Looky someone borrowed a new word

#159 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 08:34 PM | Reply

Oh Looky someone borrowed a new word
#159 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

I got some buttpaste for you.

#160 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 08:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Also, on Jan. 20th I pour one out to Al Gore, President 43 of the United States.

We could have had solar power, super-tofu and flying cars. Instead we got 20 years of war and now we are bankrupt.

#162 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 08:38 PM | Reply

*for Al Gore, my homey,

#163 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 08:40 PM | Reply

We could have had it all but Hillary stole it from Bernie ...

Bernie didn't get anything stolen from him. He lost for the same reason he lost the primary in 2020 -- moderate and African-American Democrats liked another candidate much better than they liked him.

As for Russiagate being a "plot", get serious. Even the Republican Senate has investigated and found Russian interference in our election to help Trump. How many countries does Trump have to ask for election help before you acknowledge he's asked countries for election help?

#164 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Bernie didn't get anything stolen from him"
rcade

Nope. just keep whistling past the graveyard. Your (and my party at the time) agreed to use his religion against him in an effort to install Hillary and If you can prove me wrong (and Seth Rich is now dead) I will never post on this site again. Have at it!

#165 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 08:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Nope. just keep whistling past the graveyard.

#165 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

What a stupid bttch!

LOL

#166 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 08:52 PM | Reply

we are bankrupt.

#162 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT

So bankrupt we could afford to dump 2 trillion into the stock market at the start of this ----.

What a stupid bttch!

LOL

#167 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 08:57 PM | Reply

What a stupid bttch!
LOL

#166 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD

have a nice day

#168 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 08:58 PM | Reply

Anyone who believes in a Seth Rich conspiracy should toddle off to InfoWars. There's no point even responding to that.

#169 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 09:02 PM | Reply

Nope. just keep whistling past the graveyard.
#165 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

180,000 dead due to Trump's virus.

#170 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-30 09:04 PM | Reply

Nope. just keep whistling past the graveyard.
#165 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH
180,000 dead due to Trump's virus.
#170 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-08-30 09:04 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Do you agree with the CDC? maybe you should go look at their new numbers. stop listening to dumbasses telling you the virus had killed nearly 200K

that's not me but the CDC

#171 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 09:11 PM | Reply

#168 | Posted by zetaleph

He once told me if he ever met me he would beat me up. He didn't get banned because nobody took that seriously, but that's what he is.

#172 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 09:13 PM | Reply

Coronavirus has killed 183,000 people in the U.S. Nothing the CDC has released has reduced that number. Stop spreading coronavirus misinformation.

#173 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 09:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Trumps virus". That is so insane.

#174 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 09:18 PM | Reply

Anyone who believes in a Seth Rich conspiracy should toddle off to InfoWars. There's no point even responding to that.

#169 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-08-30 09:02 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Oh my goodness. Ok, no one knows what happened to him, but everyone knows what he was asked to do and what he reported to the public.

#176 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 09:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

177. Careful. Donner might lecture you about how stupid ad hominem attacks make you look.

#178 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 09:47 PM | Reply

"He once told me if he ever met me he would beat me up. He didn't get banned because nobody took that seriously, but that's what he is."

Lauramohr is more intimidating than douchegood

#179 | Posted by eberly at 2020-08-30 09:51 PM | Reply

Coronavirus is a Nazi.

#180 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 09:52 PM | Reply

"Lauramohr is more intimidating than douchegood

#179 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2020-08-30 09:51 PM"

I saw Mohr make a comment about being seriously overweight. If she did a barrel roll on you....watch out!

#181 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 09:53 PM | Reply

#165
Bernie Sanders had a heritage.
Joe Lieberman had a religion.

Even Mel Gibson good assess the nuance.

#182 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-30 10:03 PM | Reply

It looks like the dead Patriot Prayer turd didn't pray hard enough. Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to use bear spray on somebody with a gun.

#183 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-30 10:10 PM | Reply

#179 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I assure you, son.

I've kicked the dog fkkk clean out of tougher girls than you just to get to a fight.

#184 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 10:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#184 Studies have shown that those who proclaim to be Chuck Norris 2.0 on the internet crumple when a 15-year old high school girl gets belligerent with them.

#185 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 10:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It looks like the dead Patriot Prayer turd didn't pray hard enough. Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to use bear spray on somebody with a gun.

#183 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT"

In the video I saw he was walking down the street by himself not interacting with anyone. So naturally you cheer that he was murdered in cold blood because he had it coming, or something.

#186 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 10:20 PM | Reply

177. Careful. Donner might lecture you

#178 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

I give a fkkk.

Seriously.

#187 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 10:24 PM | Reply

177. Careful. Donner might lecture you

#178 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

I give a fkkk.

Seriously.

#188 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 10:24 PM | Reply

#184 Studies have shown that I'd eat a mile of a pig's shht just to kiss the hole it came from.

#185 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Fixed.

It's funny see you don't tread on me whores become the please tread on me whores.

#189 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-30 10:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 1

He's on your team, not mine, ITG.

#190 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-08-30 10:28 PM | Reply

"I hope they release his name."

Are you referring to the shooter or the victim?

I'm guessing the victim.

Regardless, internet sleuths claim to have ID'd the shooter. I seriously hope the authorities find this guy before vigilantes find him.

#195 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 10:38 PM | Reply

"#193 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD"

Your internet tough-guy coupled with clumsy attempts at being really offensive are actually really lame.

Go drink a beer. Life is way too short to be perpetually outraged.

#197 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 10:40 PM | Reply

#196 Crying to the mods? I haven't asked you to be moderated at all. I want you to have full opportunity to make a fool of yourself over and over.

#201 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 10:44 PM | Reply

#189 lol, I think I may have pulled something.

Once a year we should have a quotable quotes thread and I don't even have to write it down . I'll remember that for the rest of my life.

Please don't tell me it's a common saying in your neck of the woods

#202 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-30 10:45 PM | Reply

In the video I saw he was walking down the street by himself not interacting with anyone.

I've already linked to an eyewitness who said otherwise. The video you're talking about has a spraying sound and an odd cloud forming around the victim right before the first shot is fired. Bear mace is known for dispersing more widely than pepper spray.

There also are others saying he had been spraying bear mace on other people.

#203 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 10:58 PM | Reply

"We simply want to find his killers and grieve. Instead, we are stuck having to constantly fight against non-facts, baseless allegations, and general stupidity to defend my brother's name and legacy." -- Seth Rich's brother

"At this point, only people with transparent political agendas or sociopaths are still perpetuating Seth Rich conspiracies." -- the Rich family spokesperson

"We are asking you to please consider our feelings and words. There are people who are using our beloved Seth's memory and legacy for their own political goals, and they are using your outrage to perpetuate our nightmare. We ask those purveying falsehoods to give us peace, and to give law enforcement the time and space to do the investigation they need to solve our son's murder." -- Seth Rich's parents

Spreading baseless political theories about his murder for political reasons is depraved.

#204 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 10:59 PM | Reply

Mr. Silence Dog is exactly why nobody gets along with the far left.

Plus he's insane. Imagine acting like that in person with someone.

#205 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 11:03 PM | Reply

But I love him as an example.

#206 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 11:03 PM | Reply

198 If you are going for some kind of "shock value" you are failing miserably.

#199 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 10:42 PM | Reply |

Word is that the antifa in Snohomish WA. yesterday got their "macho on " as internet cowboys.

#207 | Posted by rhet at 2020-08-30 11:08 PM | Reply

I've already linked to an eyewitness who said otherwise. The video you're talking about has a spraying sound and an odd cloud forming around the victim right before the first shot is fired. Bear mace is known for dispersing more widely than pepper spray.

There also are others saying he had been spraying bear mace on other people.

#203 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-08-30 10:58 PM | FLAG:

And you can also see a large pool of moisture on the roadway afterward, which I assume is the residue from this bear mace.

#208 | Posted by cbob at 2020-08-30 11:14 PM | Reply

"Go drink a beer."

LOL

His dad lets him finish a 6oz Miller high life on Sunday.

Then it's off to bed.

#209 | Posted by eberly at 2020-08-30 11:16 PM | Reply

Are you kidding, even George Carlin perked up his ears tonight.

Three cheers for Mrsilencebegood.

#210 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-30 11:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The cameraman who filmed the shooting says 22 seconds later, after walking closer to the place where it occurred, "I've got mace in my eyes" and moans several times like it is painful. Another person who was close to the shooting walks away rubbing his eyes. It seems pretty well-established that there was a mace spraying.

Based on the little information available, this shooting seems as questionable to me as Rittenhouse shooting the first victim. Bear mace is assault but the shooter had many directions to get away on an open street. He wasn't cornered.

#211 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 11:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you kidding, even George Carlin perked up his ears tonight.

Three cheers for Mrsilencebegood.

#210 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-30 11:25 PM |

hardly.

Tough guys that are real, don't talk about it on the internet.

and Carlin had class and was funny.

#212 | Posted by rhet at 2020-08-30 11:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is being sprayed with bear mace more life threatening than being beaten over the head with a skateboard? Just curious.

#213 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-30 11:30 PM | Reply

It's not assualt if it's self defense. Would you you say the same thing to a rape victim? "You had plenty of places to run...."

Come on. He was murdered, just like those cops today.

#214 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 11:32 PM | Reply

RCade, This video? www.youtube.com

Two shots, no mace.

#215 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-30 11:37 PM | Reply

Well I have Carlin's first three albums I have never seen him live. But I've watched a bunch on the Internet some directed from this very site.

And if you didn't think #189 was funny you have a mental block.

#216 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-30 11:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I will buttfkkk your mother on his grave.
#194 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD AT 2020-08-30 10:35 PM

Sounds like something Joseph Rosenbaum aka "Jojo" might've said.

#217 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-30 11:40 PM | Reply

Joey Gibson can give the dead MAGAt a 21 squirt salute at his burial.

#218 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-30 11:44 PM | Reply

Two shots, no mace.
#215

What was the white cloud almost simultaneous with the shots?

#219 | Posted by et_al at 2020-08-30 11:50 PM | Reply

Internet sleuths claim to have ID'd the shooter. If he's arrested what are the odds that members of the Biden/Harris team will contribute to his bail as they have with other rioters who have been arrested?

The 2020 Democratic Party is the Riot Party.

#221 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 11:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What was the white cloud almost simultaneous with the shots?

#219 | POSTED BY ET_AL AT 2020-08-30 11:50 PM"

Flatulence.

#222 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 11:54 PM | Reply

Two shots, no mace.

In the Justin Dunlap video you're linking, you can see the spray cloud and the video contains people rubbing their eyes and saying they got maced. Eyewitnesses also told police the victim sprayed bear mace. Dunlap told the media the victim sprayed mace.

Videos of the aftermath as people are trying to save the victim include people coughing, likely from mace.

#223 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-30 11:54 PM | Reply

Apparently he was murdered because he farted.

#224 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-30 11:54 PM | Reply

Apparently he was shot because he's a -------- who brought bear spray to a gun fight.

Ftfy

#225 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-30 11:57 PM | Reply

In the video I watched nobody was within 15 feet of him. Kind of hard to claim self-defense with that.

"Apparently he was shot because he's a -------- who brought bear spray to a gun fight.

Ftfy

#225 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT"

Do you feel the same way about the -------- who brought a skateboard to an AR-15 fight?

#226 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 12:02 AM | Reply

That was Reinheit's point.

#227 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-31 12:11 AM | Reply

The guy with the skateboard was chasing a --------- who just murdered somebody. The --------- who got shot in Portland used bear spray on the wrong protester.

#228 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-08-31 12:13 AM | Reply

#227 The difference being the kid with the AR has a much stronger case for self-defense than the guy who shot flatulence-guy.

#229 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 12:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Also, audio from the shooting sounds like the shooting was coordinated and not spontaneous.

#230 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 12:15 AM | Reply

"An eyewitness to the shooting in Portland told the Washington Post that the victim sprayed multiple people with bear mace and was shot moments later."

I'm pretty sure the police would be allowed to shoot you if you sprayed them with bear mace, so I guess this is a clean kill.
But I'd love to get ABH's take on it.

Remember Rodeglide? Pretty sure that guy was a cop. Wonder where he's at.

#231 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:17 AM | Reply

"The guy with the skateboard was chasing a --------- who just murdered somebody. "

Thankfully the NYT actually engaged in journalism and did a bang-up job of stitching together what happened in Kenosha. AR-kid was trying to put out a dumpster fire and was attacked for his efforts and appears to have discharged his weapon in self-defense. Self-defense seemed far more evident when he was running and being chased, fell and shot 3 people quite clearly in self-defense. Heck, the one victim who survived was armed and actually stated that he wished he had killed the kid and would have emptied all of his ammo into the kid - which only bolsters a self-defense claim.

#232 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 12:19 AM | Reply

I said I wasn't going to root against the stock market just because it would hurt the president. I believed that when Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc were President, too., because it would be ostentatiously idiotic to do so.
#133 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

That's such a weird way to phrase "I support a trillion dollars in corporate handouts, at a time when Trump is President, because opposing it would be bad for Trump."

#233 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The difference being the kid with the AR has a much stronger case for self-defense than the guy who shot flatulence-guy.

You're making a lot of assumptions. We don't see the shooting of the first guy by Rittenhouse. We just see a brief chase.

A close eyewitness told police that no words were exchanged and no one touched anybody before Rittenhouse pointed his gun at Rosenbaum and Rosenbaum attempted to push the gun away or grab it, both of which could be a legitimate act of self defense to someone pointing a gun at you. Rosenbaum could have been chasing Rittenhouse to verbally harass him. That's a stupid thing to do but it shouldn't be enough to justify shooting somebody.

#234 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-31 12:23 AM | Reply

Self-defense seemed far more evident when he was running and being chased, fell and shot 3 people quite clearly in self-defense.

He shot someone to death and then fled the scene. People were yelling "that's the shooter." The people on that street had a legitimate reason to fear for their lives and acted accordingly.

Heck, the one victim who survived was armed and actually stated that he wished he had killed the kid and would have emptied all of his ammo into the kid - which only bolsters a self-defense claim.

Not really. It's not like Rittenhouse knew what the guy would say after the fact. At the time he shot him, the guy had taken a step back and his hands were facing up.

It's funny how that victim doesn't have the right to defend himself with his gun but Rittenhouse does with his. What's the difference? That victim was facing an armed person who had just killed somebody and fled. The armed person pointed a gun at him moments after fatally shooting a second person.

#235 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-31 12:28 AM | Reply

"In the video I watched nobody was within 15 feet of him."

The magic number is 21 feet.

#236 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:30 AM | Reply

It's hard to tell, but it looks like the Portland victim is approaching the shooter when he gets shot and is closer than 15 feet.

#237 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-31 12:34 AM | Reply

"A close eyewitness told police that no words were exchanged and no one touched anybody before Rittenhouse pointed his gun at Rosenbaum"

If this is true, Rittenhouse has no self defense claim.
Rittenhouse placed himself into a situation of his own making.
You don't get to do point a gun at somebody, and then claim their reaction puts you in fear of your life.

Unless you are a cop.

#238 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:36 AM | Reply

#235 My comment was from a standpoint of that 17 year old having a self-defense claim.

""In the video I watched nobody was within 15 feet of him."

The magic number is 21 feet.

#236 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-08-31 12:30 AM"

...For a gun that is not already drawn...also, the victim wasn't charging at anyone.

#239 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 12:42 AM | Reply

#239 but you have to factor in the bear mace irritant, which you have not done.

#240 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:43 AM | Reply

We just see a brief chase.
-RCADE

Lol, why would anyone feel threatened by an angry group of people chasing them down the street?

Oh and the unamed gunman firing in the air during the chase as detailed by the NYT is mysteriously absent in your description of what happened.

#241 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-31 12:44 AM | Reply

"Lol, why would anyone feel threatened by an angry group of people chasing them down the street?"

Why were they angry? Was it because the person they were chasing just shot a man?

#242 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:51 AM | Reply

I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump supporters to do the same.

#243 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 12:57 AM | Reply

WTF, If you think you need to go out locked and loaded stay the ---- home, you ain't saving the union boy.

#244 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-31 12:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#239 but you have to factor in the bear mace irritant, which you have not done.

#240 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-08-31 12:43 AM"

Which has nothing to do with "21 feet" so why in the heck did you even bring it up?

#245 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 01:17 AM | Reply

"WTF, If you think you need to go out locked and loaded stay the ---- home, you ain't saving the union boy.

#244 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ AT 2020-08-31 12:58 AM"

So, if you ain't a leftist and you want to protest you should stay the ---- home or be willing to be assaulted or killed?

#246 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 01:21 AM | Reply

" SNOOFY"

Earlier you posted that you had to depart to do some "work".

How was the Antifa meeting? Which locally-owned business are planning on looting and setting on fire tomorrow night?

#247 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-08-31 01:26 AM | Reply

The shooter was just following Trump's suggestion to be strong against violent protesters. Gun beats mace. Womp womp.

#248 | Posted by bored at 2020-08-31 01:35 AM | Reply

---- you Zetalaugh. You just gave a passionate speech on another thread about your reasonable gun protacal.

But "here you go again"

#249 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-31 01:40 AM | Reply

I should have emphasized "Boy"

#250 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-31 01:42 AM | Reply

Why were they angry? Was it because the person they were chasing just shot a man?
#242 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-08-31 12:51 AM

No, your reading comprehension sucks. We were talking about the chase that preceded the first shooting, in which an angry mob chased the armed kid, during which an unnamed shooter fires a shot into the air, and ends with said armed kid cornered and the first-to-be dead people lunging at him only to get blasted. The NYT pieced this time line together, so if you're feeling sensitive or angry about it, take it up with them.

#251 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-31 01:45 AM | Reply

"We were talking about the chase that preceded the first shooting"

You can kill people who are chasing you?

#253 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 01:47 AM | Reply

Which has nothing to do with "21 feet" so why in the heck did you even bring it up?
#245 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

I don't follow.
Why wouldn't having mace in your eyes affect your firearms combat capability?
You sound like one of thsoe people who says a forward pistol grip like on a gangster's Tommy Gun is a purely cosmetic accessory.

#254 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 01:49 AM | Reply

You can kill people who are chasing you?

But not people who are bear macing you?

???

#255 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 02:44 AM | Reply

Last I read, the guy who was shot was part of Patriot Prayer.

#21 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN

One less domestic terrorist, one less Trump voter.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!

The alt-right (R)tarded Nazi's wanted a civil war, until they've realized that the other side fights back and defends themselves. Then they cry like the cowardly snowflakes they are.

#256 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-08-31 03:45 AM | Reply

Lol, why would anyone feel threatened by an angry group of people chasing them down the street?

Do you think people chasing you always means you can shoot and kill them? Rosenbaum never put a finger on Rittenhouse, per witnesses.

#257 | Posted by rcade at 2020-08-31 10:06 AM | Reply

Liars, all of them and now you want me to put my vote behind Joe Biden? Never.

POSTED BY ZETALEPH

So you support 20,000 lies and 200,000 deaths.

We are all impressed with your tremendous ignorance. Bigly.

Ignorance is bliss after all.

I am happy for your bliss. Too bad so many Americans have to die for your happiness.

#258 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-31 11:26 AM | Reply

At least it was a Trumptard that got shot this time.

You bring yourself into a Blue State, driving your
jacked up pick up, spraying bear spray, you just might
get yourself shot... "Instant Karma's gonna get you, if'n..."

You know the rest...

The Right is foolish if they think the Left won't
fight back... Uh, we have guns too!

Rtards!

#259 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-08-31 11:50 AM | Reply

Do you think people chasing you always means you can shoot and kill them? Rosenbaum never put a finger on Rittenhouse, per witnesses.
#257 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-08-31 10:06 AM

Again, mysteriously leaving out the part where another unnamed shooter fired a gun into the air during the chase, per the NYT. It's just so mysterious why that part keeps getting ignored. Angry crowd chases and corners kid while someone else fires a gun, Rosenbaum lunges at the minor. All pieced together by the NYT from various video footage of the shooting. Maybe the NYT is a far right Nazi rag now?

#260 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-08-31 12:09 PM | Reply

"Do you think people chasing you always means you can shoot and kill them?"

"According to The Daily Beast, the criminal complaint said Rittenhouse was walking down a street in Kenosha at about 11:45 p.m. alongside the Daily Caller reporter when Rosenbaum approached and tried to "engage" Rittenhouse, who was armed with a rifle.

Investigators said videos they reviewed showed that Rosenbaum, who appeared to be unarmed, chased Rittenhouse as he ran across a parking lot and threw something at him."

It doesn't matter what you and I think, it matters whether the jury sees Rittenhouse's reaction as being consistent with self-defense.

What I can tell you is that if you're in the woods of Wyoming or Montana and you shoot a bear that isn't a threat, you're toast. But if that same bear is chasing you, open fire. Otherwise, you're relying on faith that the bear will turn away to keep you alive.

#261 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-31 12:47 PM | Reply

This whole thread it very interesting, but the way. All of those on the left who had complained about a society where left-wing protesters were not able to conduct their protests without fear of intimidation, or cops, or whatever, are now giddy that a right wing protester was shot for protesting.

I just find that interesting.

#262 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-31 12:49 PM | Reply

THE TOUGH PROBLEMS ARE WHAT YOU ELECT A PRESIDENT FOR. - #134 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-08-30 06:16 PM

No. You elect a President to handle the duties laid out in the Constitution. The end. In a Republic like ours, the problems of the States should be handled by the States. Just because some people want a King doesn't mean most of us do.

#263 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-08-31 12:54 PM | Reply

#263 That's a laugh. Federalized law enforcement,the central bank,also known as the Fed, the huge military buildup, Trump insisting he has "total authority"as president. Not to mention 650,000 Deaths to force the Confederate states back into the union.

What ------- planet are you on. The states are little more than tools of the fed. Have been for 150 years. States rights became a dead letter issue when Lee surrendered at Appomattox.

Go peddle your -------- somewhere else.

#264 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-08-31 01:10 PM | Reply

oh and Madbomber...

You think only the Right feels anger at the American situation?
Or that only they are justified to feel so?
Those on the left have sat by for years, literally, and not raised
a gun in response...

www.theguardian.com

while 100's of people have been shot and killed on the left by
right wing militia and activists, not to mention run over by vehicles, etc...

so pardon us, if we feel just a slight bit of vindication taking out one
person on the Right...

People have the right to protest. It's called Freedom of Speech.
Nowhere does it say bands of people can rove the streets with AR-15's in the Constitution,
and Bully people threatening violence. If I was the Governor of WA, I'd call out the
Army Reserves, and arrest Every single one of the armed militants pointing their machine guns
at the citizenry.

#265 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-08-31 02:17 PM | Reply

In a Republic like ours, the problems of the States should be handled by the States. Just because some people want a King doesn't mean most of us do.

I assume this means you oppose Trump's insertion of DHS agents into cities like Portland?

#266 | Posted by JOE at 2020-08-31 02:37 PM | Reply

"All of those on the left who had complained about a society where left-wing protesters were not able to conduct their protests without fear of intimidation, or cops, or whatever, are now giddy that a right wing protester was shot for protesting."

He was protesting? What was he protesting?
What was he doing in protest, spraying people with chemicals?
That sounds like a non-violent protest to you, huh?

Not that it really matters, since your claim is also ridiculous:
I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump supporters to do the same.
#243 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

#267 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-31 03:49 PM | Reply

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