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Tuesday, September 01, 2020

Right about now, something terrible is happening in America. Society is one tiny step away from the final collapse of democracy, at the hands of a true authoritarian, and his fanatics.

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We survivors of authoritarianism have a terrible, terrible foreboding, because we are experiencing something we should never do: deja vu.

Our parents fled from collapsing societies to America. And here, now, in a grim and eerie repeat of history, we see the scenes of our childhoods played out all over again. Only now, in the land that we came to.

We see the stories our parents recounted to us happening before our eyes, only this time, in the place they brought us to, to escape from all those horrors, abuses, and depredations.

We survivors are experiencing this terrible feeling of deja vu right now as a group, as a class. We talk about it, how eerie and grim this sense of deja vu is. It's happening all over again!

Do you remember this part of your childhood? When the armed men roamed the streets? When the secret police disappeared opponents? When the fascist masses united " and that was enough to destroy democracy for good?


#1 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-31 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Rather, this is Americas inevitable evolution.

#2 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-09-01 06:41 AM | Reply

Winter is Coming.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-01 10:39 AM | Reply

What a stupid page.

America is far from dying.

This trope is nothing more than a temper tantrum by those who cannot win at the ballot box.

Put up better candidates and propose better policies and you will win.

#4 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 10:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

The Dem candidate got 3 million more votes. In any country other than the US, she would have been the winner. The Electoral College is an anachronism, because it allows for minority rule. If "democracy" is bad (as many on the right keep telling us) because of the possibility of "tyranny of the majority", how is "tyranny of the minority" a better thing.

What would you suggest as a governing principle other than "majority rules"?

#5 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-09-01 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yes America is dying. By the hundreds of thousands.

The prophets foretold of this day...

I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.

The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir.

Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-01 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All decisions in our government are made (and have always been made) by a majority of those who are allowed to vote (e.g., the people, Representatives, Senators, Supreme Court). How else, other than dictatorship or oligarchy could decisions be made?

BTW, corporate America works the same way Board Members are elected by a majority of shareholders (or those with the most shares), Officers are selected by a majority of the Board.

Bottom line, a decision can either be made based on a vote, or they can be dictated by an "authority". Which do you think is supported by our Constitution?

#7 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-09-01 11:06 AM | Reply

This was probably one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. I love how people always want to blame Trump for all of these problems. Then many people complain that he's not doing enough to stop it. You cannot have it both ways. The issue of the riots is NOT because of racist police. The number of unarmed black men who are shot by the police is a ridiculously small percentage of all police interactions. These rioters want mob rule. If you are afraid of authoritarian governments, the let these rioters win. You'll have what you fear.

#8 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-01 11:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

If you are afraid of authoritarian governments

#8 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-

Why aren't you?

Trumpite.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-01 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If you are afraid of authoritarian governments, the let these rioters win. You'll have what you fear.

#8 | POSTED BY ROCKY_B

No one is going to let the rioters "win".

We already have what we fear. People like you.

That's why they are protesting.

Wake up. Winter is Coming and Trumpy is bringing to America.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-01 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 The reason we have a Constitution is so the majority can't run roughshod over the minority. When I see authoritarian comments by leftists here and elsewhere I thank God every day that we have a divided government.

#11 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 11:20 AM | Reply

#11 | Posted by zetaleph

Are you Alt-Right?

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-01 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The reason we have a Constitution is so the majority can't run roughshod over the minority. "

Actually, historically our Constitution was written so a small minority of land owning men could run roughshod over the majority which consisted of poor men, women, black people and slaves. That's why we have the Electoral College, the authors of the Constitution did not believe in real democracy and majority rule. Read a history book if you don't believe me.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-01 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Mob rule IS democracy,Before democracy became established a small coterie of priests,aristocrats and "divinely",annointed nobility ran everything for their own benefit.

In France,the "mob", beheaded the king,and his wife. They were legitimate rulers ordained by God. The clergy were smashed,and their power broken,by the mob. The previously tax exempt nobility were beheaded by the over taxed "mob".

The end result was waves of revolution and reactionary counterrevolution. This finally ended in a French republic.

Messy process,to say the least. But the bottom line is the MOB won,and the French people were largely better off that they did.

#14 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-01 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've read plenty of history books.

I've also read the Constitution countless times.

The minority cannot enact legislation and enforce law. All it can do is sometimes thwart the majority from enacting legislation.

I do appreciate that leftists are becoming more open and honest with their contempt for the Constitution though. Honestly is always a good thing.

#15 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 11:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

>The minority cannot enact legislation and enforce law.

They can only win the presidency. Sad.

#16 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-09-01 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Honestly is always a good thing.

#15 | Posted by zetaleph

Are you Alt-Right?

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-01 11:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#16 Nothing prevented Hillary Clinton from ignoring states like Pennsylvania and Michigan. Her own arrogance was the reason.

#18 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 11:38 AM | Reply

Zed,

Are you going to follow me around and pepper me with the same question over and over?

I answered you once. Refer back to that answer when you feel the urge to ask the same question.

#19 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 11:40 AM | Reply

#18 | Posted by zetaleph

Won't deny it?

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-01 11:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I already said no. The alt-right is a contemptible group of people.

#21 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 11:40 AM | Reply

#19 | Posted by zetaleph

It is theorized that you are an old poster able to visit it here from Discord, an Alt-Right mouthpiece.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-01 11:41 AM | Reply

The constitution is NOT holy writ. The framers themselves had no illusions on this point. They probably would be surprised it's lasted as long as it has. Maybe a new constitution would be a good thing. One that takes economic realities into consideration and muzzles the power of cash over the process.

The framers were greedy and exploitative men. Many owned human being as chattel while mouthing pieties about human freedom.

They condoned the theft of Aboriginal lands and the murder of indigenous peoples.

We can do better than that.

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-01 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The alt-right is a contemptible group of people.

#21 | Posted by zetaleph

I agree.

They also have the value to lie about who and what they are for "the greater good".

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-01 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donnerboy, you don't know me at all. I think if you did, you and I could find common ground. For you to fear me just shows how foolish your fear is. This is one of things that upsets me most. You're probably one of the people who believe that all white people are racist. All non-gay people are homophobic. The problem with this type of label is that you will run into a group of people (i.e. The Alt Right) who will just say "I might as well be racist because you keep telling me I am. What's the difference?"

#25 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-01 11:54 AM | Reply

#23 The Constitution has a written-in process for change. It's been amended 27 times.

Don't like what is in it? Follow the process to change it.

#26 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 11:57 AM | Reply

Rocky,
Do you think Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon are racists?

#27 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-09-01 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why do that when the supreme court can "interpret" it any way they want,giving positive rights not in the text etc. We need a new framework the old one is obsolete. Times change my friend, time to get "Woke" constitutionally.

No mealy mouthed interpretations, actual text in the documents. Not amendments, a new constitution.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-01 12:06 PM | Reply

"Nothing prevented Hillary Clinton from ignoring states like Pennsylvania and Michigan."

Republicans suppressed many more votes in those states than she lost by in those states. Since 2000 the GOP has just used various methods to cheat in election after election, the only way a Democrat can win is with a landslide victory as Obama did.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-01 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"No mealy mouthed interpretations, actual text in the documents. Not amendments, a new constitution."

Like corporate personhood, money is free speech, etc.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-01 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#30 Blah blah blah.

If you think cheating is exclusive to Republicans I've got a bridge to sell you.

#31 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-01 12:58 PM | Reply

"If you think cheating is exclusive to Republicans I've got a bridge to sell you."

You are full of crap, the Republicans have cheated in ways never seen before. There is simply no equivalent in the Democratic Party today, I won't deny that there was 60 years ago but not today.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-01 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"There is a crucial lesson there. America already has an ISIS, a Taliban, an SS waiting to be born."

I wonder why the articles didn't mention anything about socialism? About the Soviet Union. Just due to recency, most "survivors" would have come from socialist countries. And if you want to talk about authoritarian, look no further than the left that it rioting in places like Portland and Kenosha. I don't like Trump, I do think he sees himself as a dictator. But do did Bernie. And I can promise you that all those rioters throwing IEDs at cops and setting buildings on fire, thhey pose a far greater threat to the country than Trump. They're the new Cheka. The Stasi.

And they're not waiting to be born. They're already here.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-09-01 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I wonder why the articles didn't mention anything about socialism?"

Minus the 180,000 killed by the Wuhan Flu, how many people has socialism killed in America?

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-01 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Maybe a new constitution would be a good thing. One that takes economic realities into consideration and muzzles the power of cash over the process."

Many conservatives have been pushing for a constitutional convention for a long time as a means of further codifying the sovereignty of the states. Maybe that's an area where you can find common ground with the right.

#35 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-09-01 01:45 PM | Reply

"I don't like Trump, I do think he sees himself as a dictator. But do did Bernie."

Sounds like a vote for Biden is a vote against dictatorship.

Tell your sister.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-01 01:45 PM | Reply

Trump is like Hitler. Not a sohulist. Trump is is like Mussolini, he embraces corporate corruption and control of society.

The Dems want economic fairness,even Biden seems on board with that now.

Most importantly,Biden has decency and respect for others on his side.

Trump is a hate filled racist maggot. He hates and fears anyone he can't bully or buy.

Trump is fundamentally evil. Biden is not.

SIMPLE.

#37 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-01 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#6 The prophets foretold of this day...

Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

#6 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Love it that you called Sagan a prophet. In many ways he was.

#38 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2020-09-01 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danni,

While I am no history or government expert, it seems to me the EC serves a purpose of preventing the more populated states from always controlling the outcome of elections.

I mean...we are called "United States"...

Other countries around the world don't have the kind of setup where they are really a lot of different governments doing their own thing.

That is a part of the problem with the virus and getting things under control. The states are all calling their own shots for the most part.

And as far as the presidential elections, we hold 50 elections and then the federal government pulls it together making sure states with lower populations aren't blocked from having any say.

It's not a perfect system but to those democrats bitching and moaning....if the EC had worked in your favor, I bet the EC would be just great.

Stop sounding like sour grapes and run an honest election and may the best senile old man win.

#39 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-01 08:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is like Hitler.

#37 | Posted by Effeteposer

I'm going to disagree, because Adolph Hitler served with some distinction in WWI, and demonstrably cared about his country at some point. Yes I'm cherry picking, but you can't even do that with tRump.

#40 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-09-01 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danni,

You talk like you think you really know exactly what's going on behind closed doors.

I am pretty sure both parties are conniving and lying and making deals to get ahead.

Maybe republicans are just better at it but I've seen enough in my lifetime to know politics is dirty...period...regardless [...]

#41 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-01 08:30 PM | Reply

I can't pretend that Trump is not obviously the dirtiest and worst we've ever seen

#42 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-01 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...and the GOP is killing it.
Stop trying to defend the Middle Class
in favor of the richest, and stop with your
'Leave it to Beaver' 1950's antiquated racism...

#43 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-09-01 09:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Defund the Middle Class! Damned
Right wing spell check! The GOP
is certainly not defending the Middle Class
with their 'Cut the Social Safety Ner' policies.

#44 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-09-01 09:29 PM | Reply

If Orange Jesus doesn't get reelected he will be in serious financial and legal trouble. There is nothing he won't do to win reelection, including allowing huge amounts of Mericans to die. Get prepped. The next 10 weeks could be the most dangerous ever in the United States. Orange Jesus belongs to Vlad. What have they planned to keep Putin's puppet in office? My bet is Orange Jesus and Putin have a fake saber rattling war between the United States and Russia. War time Presidents win reelection and Putin will remain our President.

#45 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-01 11:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The stock market has died. The rich have taken their toys and gone home and the Federal Reserve owns the stocks with the U.S. taxpayer dollars locked in. You won't get your money out when they pull the plug. It will just stop and nothing will move.

#46 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-01 11:54 PM | Reply

So you think Orange Jesus won't be reelected? Forget what you see in the polls and hear on the teevee. Ask yourself this one question. Are the words and actions of Orange Jesus the words and actions of a President who is trying to win reelection or the words and actions of a President who knows he has already been reelected? He is not trying to gain new voters. He is appealing to a minority voter base. The election is over.

#47 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-02 12:31 AM | Reply

"I can't pretend that Trump is not obviously the dirtiest and worst we've ever seen"

You're right. By all accounts, this should be an easy victory for Biden. You have a significant number of Republicans and conservative independents supporting Biden, as well as many Democrats.

So why do Trump's numbers in key states keep improving while Biden's numbers drop?

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-09-02 07:44 AM | Reply

So why do Trump's numbers in key states keep improving while Biden's numbers drop?
#48

Why do over 70% of Americans believe in Angels?
Why do only 40% concede climate change is real?
Why do less than half accept the concept of evolution?

#49 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-09-02 08:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Forgot to add: Why were there a total of 13 'Fast and Furious' movies made?

#50 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-09-02 08:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

STUPID. Trump is their man.

#51 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-02 11:30 AM | Reply

STUPID. Trump is their man.

#52 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-02 11:30 AM | Reply

Could a military invasion have killed as many U.S. citizens as Trump's COVID-19 inactions within the same time frame? 3 million voted for Trump's opponent, "herd-immunity" will pick them off one-by-one. Count on it.

#53 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-09-02 12:25 PM | Reply

3 million more voted for Trump's opponent. . . . whoops

#54 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-09-02 12:28 PM | Reply

- So why do Trump's numbers in key states keep improving while Biden's numbers drop?

Because under-educated white males have been fearmongered into believing they are victims of minorities and immigrants by the Big Lies told by your Republican Party, particularly it's Leader.

Being told the truth, that almost all Americans are victimized by the very wealth and the big corporations who pay for their own laws, as Bernie and most Dems have told them, is a bit more nuanced.... and nuance isn't something Trump's base does.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-02 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

During an online chat with a professor friend of mine in Australia, I described the current America as: "like Austria, a stumbling, bumbling Authoritarian-power state with a veneer of functioning Democracy and Republic elements."

She agreed with me.

If you have traveled abroad extensively (and yes, I have) you know exactly what I am referring to. We are very close to Austria right now in terms of government and the checks on power and the threats towards those checks and the media. We are rapidly moving in the direction of China, with Fox News now firmly in place as official state media, and MAGA-hatters as the American version of the Young Pioneers of China (school kids wearing red kerchiefs and brainwashed by propaganda daily).

#56 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-09-02 02:21 PM | Reply

3 million more voted for Trump's opponent. . . . whoops

#54 | Posted by getoffmedz

Since we are a federation of states, how many states voted for her?

#57 | Posted by boaz at 2020-09-02 06:29 PM | Reply

While I am no history or government expert, it seems to me the EC serves a purpose of preventing the more populated states from always controlling the outcome of elections.

Why should states where people choose not to live have more power? That doesn't make any damn sense except to people whose side gains an advantage from it. A voter in Wyoming should not have 3.6 times as much power to choose a president as a voter in California.

There is no state in the U.S. that has an Electoral College-like system to favor less populated counties. Instead the side wins that gets the most votes. Crazy, huh? Don't they know they put their thumb on the scale so podunk counties have extra voting power?

#58 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-02 09:20 PM | Reply

Since we are a federation of states, how many states voted for her?

That's completely irrelevant. The number of states that vote for a candidate has nothing to do with winning.

The only reason you defend the Electoral College is that you know Republicans don't attract the majority of voters any more. You know the GOP will keep putting up candidates so lousy they will finish second in actual voters.

#59 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-02 09:23 PM | Reply

Rcade,

"That doesn't make any damn sense except to people whose side gains an advantage from it."

How narrow minded to make such an accusation that I am so stupid the only reason I see the value of the EC is because it benefits republicans.

I bet it would make sense to you if you thought it was working in your favor.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-02 10:01 PM | Reply

You did just confirm RCade's point, Bill.

#61 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-02 10:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rcade,

Since you're projecting that way of thinking onto me, I will assume that's the way you're likely thinking.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-02 10:07 PM | Reply

I bet it would make sense to you if you thought it was working in your favor.

Of course you do. You've just defined privilege, ie. when it works in your favor even though you know it isn't fair to others.

And no, we wouldn't think that it made sense because it doesn't when every other election race in America is won by the person who gains the most votes, period. We'd ask why this biased system was put in place and for what purpose. We'd recognize that it wasn't put in place to insure that a party whose candidate cannot win a plurality of the total votes was not the reason it was created for.

And we'd change it, whether or not it helped or hurt us because it would be the right thing to do.

And your next question would be why wasn't it changed earlier(?) and that answer is until the last 20 years did we have 3 different elections where the "winner" didn't receive the most votes. And it had nothing to do with slavery nor the entitled case being forced to accept a buffoon. (Well, the entitled class delivered their own buffoon in 2016 and the EC didn't stop him either.)

#63 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-02 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Rcade,

"Why should states where people choose not to live have more power?"

I guess we should disenfranchise the less important states because they have less people living there?

If a state doesn't meet a thresh-hold of people living there, the federal government has no obligation to consider it's specific needs?

Which ones should be start with?

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-02 10:13 PM | Reply

If a state doesn't meet a thresh-hold of people living there, the federal government has no obligation to consider it's specific needs?

Which ones should be start with?

Jebus Bill, you need a civics class. Each state has 2 Senators and at least one congressional representative. IOW each state HAS representation in the federal government.

The EC is not about franchise, our election is for every legal voter in this nation regardless of where they live. Boundary lines are arbitrary, they weren't created with divine intersession.

Every American's vote for President should count the same regardless of where they live. The President represents all of us and he should be chosen by all of us. The EC creates a biased outcome which allows for a minority of voters to sometimes chose the President.

It's past time for that to change.

#65 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-02 10:31 PM | Reply

It's past time for that to change.

There is, however, no realistic way for that to happen.

#66 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-02 10:41 PM | Reply

I bet it would make sense to you if you thought it was working in your favor.

You'd lose. I've always thought the Electoral College was ------. Unlike Trumpers, I wouldn't want to win an election with a second-place candidate because that delegitimizes our government.

I guess we should disenfranchise the less important states because they have less people living there?

I love how Electoral College defenders use the word "disenfranchise" to describe losing an election BECAUSE THE OTHER CANDIDATE GOT MORE VOTES.

Elections are about voters, not about land. Podunk states already have enough power through equal representation in the Senate. They don't deserve the presidency too.

Small states are small because people leave them. If you can't keep your citizens you should have less voting power. You shouldn't be rewarded for sucking at growth.

#67 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-02 10:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is, however, no realistic way for that to happen.

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact can change things. It's not easy but it's hardly unrealistic. It just takes enough people who are sick of seeing loser second-choice presidents like Trump in the White House.

#68 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-02 10:45 PM | Reply

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact can change things.

Lots of legal issues there I think.

#69 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-02 11:03 PM | Reply

Lots of legal issues there I think.

There are no legal issues. Under the Constitution states have all the power to decide how they will assign their electors.

#70 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-02 11:16 PM | Reply

Interesting... I did not know that.

#71 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-02 11:17 PM | Reply

"The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact can change things."

Including states' power in RRO meetings. Basically, nine states (the difference between a majority and a super-majority) would have to voluntarily cede parliamentary power.

Does anyone actually believe we have 9 states full of constitutional idiots???

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-02 11:35 PM | Reply

What a stupid page.
America is far from dying.
This trope is nothing more than a temper tantrum by those who cannot win at the ballot box.
Put up better candidates and propose better policies and you will win.
#4 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH AT 2020-09-01 10:52 AM

Read what you wrote, Zetagoat.
Are you that dumb, really? or just a amazingly obtuse?
Read again what you wrote, Trumpite.
Then, hit yourself in the face repeatedly for being such an idiot.

#73 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-09-03 08:12 AM | Reply

Rcade,

"Small states are small because people leave them. If you can't keep your citizens you should have less voting power."

That would go over well in Congress.

#74 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-03 01:08 PM | Reply

What ever is necessary for Republicans to impose their regressive agenda on others is fine with them.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-03 01:16 PM | Reply

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy"

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Nov 6, 2012

#76 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-03 01:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rcade,

Yea...some of the overpopulated areas have real quality people.

Something to brag about.

#77 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-03 01:21 PM | Reply

some of the overpopulated areas have real...

...Job opportunities and thriving economies.

Bill doesn't care why dirt get more representation in Congress than people.

All he knows is, it allows him to force others to live their lives as second class citizens. Because they're not good enough to live their lives unmolested by regressive Republican dogmatists.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-03 01:29 PM | Reply

Tony,

Maybe you should be explaining the point of the EC to people on this thread.

#79 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-03 03:18 PM | Reply

United States Electoral College

#80 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-03 03:36 PM | Reply

Tony,

"You've just defined privilege, ie. when it works in your favor even though you know it isn't fair to others."

The hard cold reality is discrimination and reverse discrimination will always exist so long as people continue using race in the qualification process for anything.

Privilege will always exist.

Granted...I do believe blacks get a tough deal in America.

Then again....so do effeminate men who are immediately pegged as gay so....you know....my pity for blacks only goes so far.

I know you have to knock on a lot of doors and go to a lot of interviews and swallow you pride.

There is only one recourse for blacks.

Work harder and stop expecting anything to be handed down just because of your color and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

Frankly....I have to wonder if the black community will be better off when people like Al Sharpton are gone poisoning their minds.

#81 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-03 08:47 PM | Reply

"The hard cold reality is discrimination and reverse discrimination will always exist so long as people continue using race in the qualification process for anything."

You're saying Affirmative Action is racist, right?

Nobody gets disqualified due to race because of Affirmative Action.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-03 08:50 PM | Reply

#81

Did you fall off a turnip truck and smash your head?

The topic was the EC and THAT is what I addressed. How do you bring race into it?

I've seen moronic comments before but that one takes the cake.

Privilege in this context was referring to the fact that you admit that the EC works in your political advantage and against voters who live in larger states whose votes for President are diluted compared to those of voters in smaller states since more voters cast ballots for the loser than the winner - something that happens in no other election in America but for one that happens to be the most important for ALL citizens regardless of where they live.

I won't even bother to respond to the rest of your post. It is what it is.

#83 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-03 08:54 PM | Reply

Tony,

Good...don't respond...I'm not interested in reading your long winded soliloquies.

#84 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-09-03 09:38 PM | Reply

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