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Wednesday, September 09, 2020

President Donald Trump once said "my f---ing generals area a bunch of p---ies" during a meeting, CNN reports, citing journalist Bob Woodward's new book "Rage."

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Of course he didn't say that... John Bolton didn't hear it, rofl!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-09 03:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

And the hits just keep on coming. I don't think anything will dissuade his cult from voting for him, they live in a fantasyland where they can justify pretty much any horrible thing their cult leader says or does, but hopefully it convinces the few sane Republican voters left to either vote for VP Biden, or to just stay home. More importantly, my hope is that this serves as even more motivation for Democrats and Independents to vote in massive numbers to end our long national nightmare!

#2 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-09-09 08:51 PM | Reply

Anyone reach out to see what Sarah Huckleberry Sanders heard?

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-09 09:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm reserving all judgement until I read what Boaz's research concludes.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-09 09:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I'm reserving all judgement until I read what Boaz's research concludes.

"Liberals suck!"
~Boaz

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-09 09:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Thank goodness he lets us live in this country with him.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-09 09:08 PM | Reply

This is what happens when the commander in chief is a malignant narcissist who thinks he knows more than generals, scientists, doctors, economists, educators, diplomats, intel specialists, etc. Basically more than everybody else in the country.

9 Reasons Humility Is the Key Ingredient to Exceptional Leadership

Real leaders tell you how great their teams are. Posers tell you how great they are.

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#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-10 06:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The United States of America is a liberal idea. The Conservatives of the time were opposed to the Revolution.

#8 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-09-10 09:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"The United States of America is a liberal idea. "

Wish that were true but slave holding rich white men invented this country because they resented being taxed to pay for the British Navy that made international trade possible. There was virtually no liberal thought in our Constitution, we still pay the price of slavery through the Electoral College to this day. Our Constitution was just a document to insure the power of land owning, land owning rich white men would be insured. All minorities, women or people of various sexual orientations did not have rights. We've made some progress on some of those issues but we haven't done anything important to lessen the power of rich white men via the Electoral College. Til we do, sorry but I do not support the Constitution of the United States. WE were taught as children to virtually worship it, it was never a great document, never will be. It was and is a sham that we were convinced to believe gave us rights. We don't really have rights, we don't even have the right to vote according to the Constitution.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-10 11:04 AM | Reply

In spite of its obvious flaws, the idea that people could govern themselves without a monarch to rule over them was (in the context of the times) a liberal idea. Remember, conservatives always prefer the status quo, except when they want to go back to a previous status quo, e.g., MAGA, then they become Reactionaries.

#10 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-09-10 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"In spite of its obvious flaws, the idea that people could govern themselves without a monarch to rule over them was (in the context of the times) a liberal idea."

Except that twice in the last several decades the people did not get to govern themselves because the EC and the SC overruled the people and both times it ended in total disaster for the people but not for the 1% who are mostly rich, land owning white men. As it was intended to do. Our Constitution prevents us from having a democracy because the founders did not trust the "rabble" to govern ourselves.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-11 09:58 AM | Reply

Our Constitution prevents us from having a democracy because the founders did not trust the "rabble" to govern ourselves.

#11 | POSTED BY DANNI

But they gave us the means to fix it. The tension between those who want to perfect society and those who benefit from and want to maintain the status quo will always exist.

You and I are on the same side practically all the time. I think we both agree that the answer is at the ballot box. If everybody voted, we would see a different country. Our job is to get as many people to vote as possible. The "hard right" is not the majority, they are just loud and persistent. We need to take over the Democratic Party the way they took over the GOP.

Ultimately, there are more of us than there are of them.

#12 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-09-11 11:26 AM | Reply

"Our Constitution prevents us from having a democracy because the founders did not trust the "rabble" to govern ourselves."

As Whodaman says, it's not the constitution that prevents us from having a democracy...it's your fellow countrymen that prevent it.

If the 1%, the hard right, and any other group you despise is not the majority, then it's voter apathy to blame...not the constitution.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 11:36 AM | Reply

#13 Voters still need to overcome undemocratic Constitutional hurdles to gain control over their government, and your apparent refusal to acknowledge that is dumb.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-11 12:59 PM | Reply

I'll use Wisconsin as an example. The Constitution allows Wisconsin to politically gerrymander its assembly districts to thwart the will of the voters. The result in 2018 was that Dems received 54% of the statewide assembly vote but just 36% of seats in the Assembly.

You could say that technically if every left-leaning person in the state rose up and voted that such a groundswell of electoral force might surmount even the harshest of gerrymanders. But to say as a result that voters are the blame, not the Constitution and the gerrymander, is to ignore reality. Something Republicans are very good at these days.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-11 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Voters still need to overcome undemocratic Constitutional hurdles to gain control over their government,"

and they could, if they got off their asses and voted the bad guys out.

How did the party who gerrymandered the assembly districts get the power to do that?

They got that power due to the apathy of non-voters.

"You could say that technically if every left-leaning person in the state rose up and voted that such a groundswell of electoral force might surmount even the harshest of gerrymanders."

I will say that ACTUALLY if every left-leaning person......."

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 01:46 PM | Reply

-But to say as a result that voters are the blame, not the Constitution and the gerrymander, is to ignore reality.

re-write the constitution for us, Joe.

what should it say?

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 01:48 PM | Reply

"what should it say?"

Well, one aspect should be a lame duck session can't alter the powers of an incoming governor, simply because they're a bunch of sore losers.
www.npr.org

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-11 02:21 PM | Reply

18

convince wisconsin voters to.... well.....stop liking republicans.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 02:33 PM | Reply

"convince wisconsin voters to.... well.....stop liking republicans."

They did; the voters elected a Democrat as governor.

Then the lame duck Republicans altered the incoming governor's powers. Aren't sore losers great?

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-11 02:35 PM | Reply

"They did; the voters elected a Democrat as governor."

that's only 1 republican.

I said republicans.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 02:38 PM | Reply

and they could, if they got off their asses and voted the bad guys out.

Doesn't negate the fact that it would require an unrealistically herculean effort to surmount the Constitutional obstacles to doing so. Acknowledge those obstacles or admit you're a hack.

re-write the constitution for us, Joe.
what should it say?

Yeah let me just do that on a whim to a blogger. What a ------- you are.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-11 02:39 PM | Reply

"I said republicans."

Well, what percentage should Democrats have to get to get control of the state legislature? 54% clearly isn't enough.

Assuming 54% of the votes = 36% of the seats, Dems could get 75% of the votes, and still not hold the majority of legislative seats.

Math: (54*50.1)/36 = 75.15

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-11 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How did the party who gerrymandered the assembly districts get the power to do that?

I love when Eberly trolls.

He's so stupid. He doesn't know anything.

But he'll keep asking you these dumb questions.

To insist nothing can ever change.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 02:49 PM | Reply

22

You're so easily triggered.

Seriously, why is that?

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 02:49 PM | Reply

that's only 1 republican.

I said republicans.

Yea dummy!!

He said "RepublicanS"!!

You suck at answering Eberly's stupid trolling questions.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 02:50 PM | Reply

"unrealistically herculean effort"

to convince people one side of the issue is wrong?

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 02:51 PM | Reply

You're so easily triggered.
Seriously, why is that?
#25 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Because he's actually trying to have a discussion with a person he believes isn't a troll.

He's learning you're a troll and it's starting to disappoint him.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 02:52 PM | Reply

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move to Wisconsin and convince republicans to stop being republicans.

I'm being a flippant jerk for a reason.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 02:56 PM | Reply

to convince people one side of the issue is wrong?

No.

To have levels of turnout that have not been seen in America in 120 years.

And none of this addresses my point anyway. The point is that, in the state i used as an example, there are Constitutional obstacles to democracy. Yes, it's technically possible for the state to have 80% turnout, just like it's technically possible to learn to jump 5 feet off the ground, but doesn't mean it isn't virtually impossible anyways. The obstacles i mention don't have to make the goal impossible for them to still be obstacles.

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-11 02:57 PM | Reply

I'm being a flippant jerk for a reason.
#29 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Same as you always are.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 02:59 PM | Reply

"to convince people one side of the issue is wrong?"

Franklin Roosevelt got the highest percentage of votes in Presidential history: 60.8%.

Why are you pretending 75% is possible?

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-11 03:04 PM | Reply

I get the unfairness of having more votes and not winning.

state legislatures and the EC....and I agree. It's not fair.

That's not my point.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 03:22 PM | Reply

Nobody ever understands your "point." Because you never make one. Never too late to start.

#34 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-11 03:28 PM | Reply

Eberlys "point" is to muddy the facts up until unrecognizable

Not because he loves trump, but because he is morally invested in the GOP which he is compelled to defend, and loathes all of you more than trump

It's from this perch he hurls accusations of inaction, apathy and blame at everyone else

#35 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-09-11 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ultimately, there are more of us than there are of them.

#12 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

That comment is what intrigued me enough to make these comments.

I tend to agree with him on this.

Certainly when polls are taken.....there are seemingly way more of us.

But on election day, when it counts, there aren't enough.

They either disappear or they never existed in the first place. I think this phenomena frustrates the left into believing they are being cheated by the system more than they really are.

And yes.....I don't explain my points as well as I should.....I'm going to start working on that.

At this point, I hope I've made my point. Disagree if you want but I hope you understand it.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 03:46 PM | Reply

"because he is morally invested in the GOP"

why do you have to invent a motivation?

You're so wrong, it's insane.

I'm one of the VERY few here who ISN'T morally invested into either side.

It's painfully ironic that you skip past many posters on this thread, who are morally invested into a single party, to accuse ME of such.

How does it feel to be so wrong?

Why not just accuse me of loving Trump if you're going to be this wrong?

Do you ever think you're right, savage?

Ever? seriously....

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 03:50 PM | Reply

I'm laughing so hard it's hurts.

I logged out and snooped at this thread for a minute.

Shartbreath is one ------ up obsessed ------------.

follows me EVERYWHERE knowing he's plonked hoping just once I give him just a little attention.

nobody else will, obviously.

well....done with that. back to plonking that --------.

even Chiefthesavage still has posting privileges with me.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 03:53 PM | Reply

^
Triggered

#39 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-09-11 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#36 Fair enough, but it's possible for Dems not to turn out as they should and for indefensible barriers to democracy to exist. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-11 04:13 PM | Reply

thank god i logged on to see who eberly plonked today.
hopefully bill johnson will update us all next.

#41 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-11 04:16 PM | Reply

Eberlys "point" is to muddy the facts up until unrecognizable

That's literally his Modus Operandi.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 04:23 PM | Reply

Shartbreath is one ------ up obsessed ------------.
follows me EVERYWHERE knowing he's plonked hoping just once I give him just a little attention..
#38 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You want people to stop responding to you? Quit the DR.

Otherwise, when you post stupid shht, you will get called out on it.

Plonking protects snowflakes, like Eberly, from having to think.

He prefers trolling people who still think he's being serious.

He's trolling Dan and Joe for his amusement.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 04:26 PM | Reply

41

keep it up, You're next......:-)

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 04:31 PM | Reply

thank god i logged on to see who eberly plonked today.
hopefully bill johnson will update us all next.
#41 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

He believes plonking someone is punishing them.

Rather than an admittance of his inability to debate.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-11 06:39 PM | Reply

"Plonking" is something today's "conservative" understands very well

Ignoring the unfavorable reminders of assertions past is easier than a self examination. This sort of thing can't exist in their universe, because they can never be or have been wrong. Ever
So rather than read or hear about things that are critical of them, what they have said in the past, or point out how flawed the ideology is in practice, they willingly choose to ignore it.

Getting "plonked" by a loudmouth internet know-it-all is no skin off my nose. It's a free license to ridicule the ideologically brain damaged

#46 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-09-11 07:31 PM | Reply

"I'm one of the VERY few here who ISN'T morally invested into either side."

Eberly doesn't have morals to invest.

That's just one of the many ways he's superior to people who choose sides.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-11 09:04 PM | Reply

Plonking is for -------

#48 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-11 09:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#48

100%, bruce.

I had 10 last time I looked. Boo friggin hoo

#49 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-11 09:50 PM | Reply

Willowby, pretty good.

I doubt 10 people even know who I am, lol.

#50 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-11 10:25 PM | Reply

48

We have some people here who absolutely need to troll people they disagree with. They simply can't have a reasonable debate with others they disagree with.

It was either plonk these weak ass trolls or leave the site.

And those plonk numbers are complete --------.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 11:23 PM | Reply

Should be able to plonk the ads, that thank Obama one that keeps popping up. OMG. Actually Obama is my hero.

But that earwax removal ad, I damn near quit the site over that one.

Scroll past.
It ain't personal if nobody knows you.

You know Gracie makes me sick but I can't wait to see what she regurgitates next.18 people are missing out.

#52 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-11 11:43 PM | Reply

"but I can't wait to see what she regurgitates next.18 people are missing out."

Sounds like the same fetish snoofy and clownshack have.

Except you don't troll people like they do.

Look how many times clown posted on this thread.

All about me. Nothing about the subject. All nasty.

Snoofy is the same.

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 11:50 PM | Reply

And 15 of those 18 plonks are fake accounts.

#54 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-11 11:51 PM | Reply

How do you know?

#55 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-11 11:55 PM | Reply

Sounds like the same fetish snoofy and clownshack have.
Except you don't troll people like they do.
Look how many times clown posted on this thread.
All about me. Nothing about the subject. All nasty.
Snoofy is the same.
#53 | POSTED BY EBERLY

For someone who claims to have plonked me, you sure can't keep my d**k out of your mouth.

Also. You plonked Snoofy because he constantly makes you look stupid and you plonked me because I keep calling you out on your bullshht.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-12 04:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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