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Tuesday, September 15, 2020

Maceo Snipes ... served honorably in World War II. [He] had been warned ... "something to the effect of First Negro that votes, that'll be the last thing he ever does.' " But he cast his ballot on July 17, 1946 - the only Black person to do so in Taylor County. Then one night, as he and his mother were sitting down to dinner, a White man he knew knocked on the door and asked him to come outside. "And then he sees three additional White men, and he hears chk-chk.' It was a firing squad. And they laid Maceo out,"

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After being shot in the abdomen, his mother helped him walk miles to get a ride to the hospital, family members later told the Georgia Civil Rights Cold Cases Project at Emory University. There he waited for six hours before he was seen in a room not much bigger than a closet.

Doctors were able to remove the bullets, but without a blood transfusion he would die, they told him, and it just so happened the hospital was out of "Black blood." In the Jim Crow South, even blood was segregated.

Snipes died on July 20. He was 37.

Before he died, Snipes told police exactly who had lured him out onto the porch that night " a fellow World War II veteran named Edward Williamson. A coroner's jury was convened, and Snipes's mother bravely testified, but a headline in The Washington Post a week later says it all: "Jury Calls Slaying of Negro Veteran Self-Defense.' " No charges were ever filed against the men who killed Snipes.

This is just another reason why we march and we plead; we're beaten, broken, and sometimes die. But we too must persist so that one day hopefully very, very soon, stories such as these will be nothing more than horrid ghost stories buried in the past.

While Blacks may not be murdered for simply trying to vote these days, there are still extrajudicial killings of Blacks happening across America, many times without proportionate provocation. All of these need to stop, and until they do - we march.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-14 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yah but the democrats take the black vote for granted so they should vote for Trump. What have they got to lose?

#2 | Posted by bored at 2020-09-14 12:06 PM | Reply

This is when America was great for the MAGAts.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-09-15 11:41 AM | Reply

Unfortunately. History may repeat itself in 2020 as I'm sure we'll read and hear of some truly horrific stuff occurring on November 3rd to prevent Democrats from voting.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-15 12:19 PM | Reply

God damn America.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-15 03:16 PM | Reply

Then HOW did he vote as a registered Democrat during the last five elections?

#6 | Posted by Spork at 2020-09-15 07:01 PM | Reply

#6 Get help. Seriously.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-09-16 07:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not many lynchings today but the voter suppression techniques developed by the Republican Party, over many years, effectively reduces the black vote in every election in this country and those who do this are every bit as evil as those who lynched black voters not so long ago. Voter suppression is the same as lynching because it is taking the right to participate in democracy away from a person who is just as entitled to it as are the lynch mob.
We need laws in this country to punish the people who do the voter suppression with real penalties for it, they should not be allowed to walk around free after they disenfranchise thousands of legal voters. They should be in prison. I'm thinking Gov. Kemp should have a reservation to a cell in Georgia. He should live there for a very long time.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-16 08:14 AM | Reply

Look at the man's picture. He was obviously a brave man,unafraid,with a strong sense of dignity. That's what got him killed. America has never been the thing we say it is. America is exploitation,and class oppression.

I see no shining city.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-16 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"America has never been the thing we say it is."

Unfortunately you are absolutely correct, everything we have been taught to believe is nonsense.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-16 11:17 AM | Reply

America has never been the thing we say it is. America is exploitation,and class oppression.

I see no shining city.

No, there is indeed a shining city quality imbued in America, but as you correctly note, that city has not been equally available to all, simply based on individual merit - unless you are a member of the privileged class or you're able to overcome the additional obstacles faced by those who aren't in that class.

The struggle for Black American equality and justice has always been based on belief in the promise of America - that is what drives all such efforts. But in that century's long drive, the lie that individual perseverance and sacrifice can always lead to success has been shown time and time again both an illusion and a fantasy for far too many due to circumstances beyond their own control.

But as our Founders fully knew and said themselves, America has never been a finished product. We still have the ability, nee the duty to continue our pursuit of that more perfect Union. We still have a ways yet to get anywhere close to there.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-16 11:34 AM | Reply

#11 I admire your belief in your fellow man. It takes courage to believe in the goodness of others. I wish I still had some of that myself.

I lost it years ago. Still, I haven't entirely given up. I still think progress is possible.

But the knuckleheads are persistent and ubiquitous,as I age I tire of the fight against them.

America is in full decline. I personally see this as irreversible.

I wish I didn't.

#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-16 11:42 AM | Reply

This country isn't and hasn't been perfect. To read most of these posts, America is now and always has been an sh*thole country. What country should be aspire to? Who's doing it better? Who's history is cleaner than ours? And to Danni, I'm quite sick and tired of this BS about Black voter suppression TODAY. Sure there was suppression in the past and this article has to bring up an event that occurred 74 years ago to make a point that doesn't exist today. Voter ID is suppression? You cannot live a normal life in this country without an ID. Gerrymandering is suppression? Both sides do it but when the republicans do it, it's suppression. Not enough polling places is suppression? I typically have to wait an hour or more to vote every time. In 2020 there is very little that is stopping anyone who's qualified to vote from voting. I'm sure one of you is going to bring up some sad story about someone who wasn't able to vote or when they got to a polling place, they were told they were at the wrong place but these issues aren't suppression, they're issues of not playing by the rules.

#13 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-17 01:34 PM | Reply

And for those of you who don't like this country and obviously never have. If you don't think the country is on the right track now and you don't think it ever was on the right track, why do you think Biden is going to change anything. Following your logic, we'll never be great let alone good. Why don't you just leave? Do us all a favor. If you think this country sucks, you've obviously never traveled beyond it's borders. We have the best country on this planet. Not the most perfect country on this planet because that country doesn't exist but truly the best. 74 year old tragic and stupid event is not what we are today.

#14 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-17 01:39 PM | Reply

Rocky, I mean this sincerely, and with an intention to get you to change your ways. You and your mindset are the problem. You and your beliefs are what is wrong with this country. The amazing combination of ignorance and arrogance is a stain on this country and history.

Seriously, just stop participating in our country. Just stop. Sit home, stop donating to republican politicians, stop posting, stop voting!

Liberalism and liberal values created this country and have been the spur to all of it's positive changes. You represent a regressive, reactionary viewpoint that has hampered positive changes and hindered our country from truly being great. You claim America is the best country on the planet. By what matrix? We can't even do the basics to prevent scores of thousands of our citizens from dying an unnecessary death. Solely due to ignorance. We are far down the list on education and quality of life, life expectancy, health care, etc.

And we are down there because of people like YOU. YOU and those like you prevent us from having universal healthcare, YOU prevent us from having a proper response to Covid, YOU and those like you prevent us from police reform, YOU and those like you prevent us from having a healthy response to climate change, etc. etc. etc.

And we end up with a devastated economy, rampant unemployment, 200,000 dead from covid, out of control wild fires, millions under the threat of being kicked from their homes, massive protests in the streets.

It is not liberal's fault for having a different vision.
It is not the media's fault for pointing out the problems.
It is not reality's fault for not jiving with your views of the world.

If is YOUR fault for not accepting reality, for being a selfish child and being willfully ignorant, and mean-spirited.

Truth Hurts

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-17 02:16 PM | Reply

Why don't you just leave?

#14 | Posted by Rocky_b

From time to time I ask Trump supporters the very same thing.

It has to do with their apparent rejection of every normative American value.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-17 02:16 PM | Reply

Sure there was suppression in the past and this article has to bring up an event that occurred 74 years ago to make a point that doesn't exist today.

Florida is preventing hundreds of thousands from voting, but Rocky says no suppression is occurring.
Seriously, Rocky DON'T VOTE. YOU are the problem.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-17 02:19 PM | Reply

Why don't you just leave?

#14 | Posted by Rocky_b

In part because, and I'm deadly serious here, the remaining adults in this country will be responsible for finding Trump supporters help, especially psychological.

You guys resist sanity much the way you resist masks.

No, I don't hate the United States. I am pleased and proud to be an American. I have pride in myself and my country and wonder what happened to the formerly loyal opposition.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-17 02:21 PM | Reply

"You and your mindset are the problem. You and your beliefs are what is wrong with this country."

You skipped past posts by individuals who have admitted they don't believe in any goodness in others and have given up hope to accuse of Rocky_b of having the wrong mindset?

Are you serious? And you mention liberalism throughout your post as though it was being attacked......where was it attacked?

I don't disagree with what you are saying except to point out how you can skip past people who think the world ended already to challenge rocky_b.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-17 02:55 PM | Reply

-Why don't you just leave?

too lazy.

it's easier to just complain on this place and do nothing else.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-17 02:56 PM | Reply

You accuse me of complaining about this country? That's rich. Read your posts. You folks complain about everything. To the poster who brought up our lack of education vs. other countries and life expectancy, etc. of course you will find areas where we are lacking but as a whole, we live in a great country. I don't see people trying to sneak into other countries as much as they try to get here. And by the way, most of the cities where the students aren't proficient in math or English are in cities that have been democrat controlled for decades. You say I'm ignorant. Are you for charter schools or school choice? Biden isn't. Why not. He wants to keep the unions happy and the students stupid. And to Truthhurts, I'm voting (only once by the way). What change do you think are going to make us better? Universal healthcare? We are so far apart in attitudes I don't expect to change any minds here but this site needs the alternate view because I'm not in the minority. Let's see what happens in November. Oh..One last thing. I'm not going anywhere. Sorry.

#21 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-17 04:32 PM | Reply

Why the hell should we leave? This whole "America,love it or leave ---------- is stupid. I'm staying, I'm going to vote for and promote policies that are helpful to myself and others. Why don't you Trump humpers leave?
Trump stands for nothing but self aggrandizement, Self enrichment at the cost of others,and Nihlism. He has nothing to offer, except hate of others not like himself. He divides, and undermines civic virtues.

This country has always been about exploitation. It has always been about class repression, to enrich the already well off at the expense of the poor.

We CAN change. It would take seeing all AMERICANS as equally deserving of the good life.

Does anyone here really believe that Trump is encouraging that?

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-17 04:39 PM | Reply

21

NO. I'm not accusing you of complaining about anything.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-17 04:53 PM | Reply

@21 You are willfully ignorant

1 Europe has a very large immigration problem, so yes there are other places people want to get to
2. I am not for charter schools since they end up destroying public schools I am for a massive increase in education funding and all of the appurtenances that alllow for education

Btw you know who are in teachers unions? Teacher, who struggle because of low pay
You want better education? Pay teachers like rock stars so they don't have to work 2nd jobs
And employ more teachers to reduce classroom size to a much more manageable size

Again you are ignorant of the reality of American life of the problems people face that is obvious from your comment that America is the greatest country
I ask by what matrix are we the greatest? Freedoms? Freedom of the press? Freedom of religion? Opportunity? Quality of life? Wealth distribution?

And all those areas where in reality America is far from the greatest it will, invariably, be because of republican policies

Ex why are we the only developed nation without universal health care? Because of republicans

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-17 05:43 PM | Reply

#21 | Posted by Rocky_b

There's no rational case for voting Trump.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-17 05:56 PM | Reply

Zed, If there's no rational case for voting for Trump, you shouldn't be worried. And to Truth Hurts, Public Schools in most democrat cities suck and pumping more money into them won't help the problem. Charter schools and School Choice has helped thousands of inner-city kids get a better education but you're more concerned about the teachers.....in the teachers union. Shameful. Let's see if we have some common ground. Are you in favor of Tenure? I oppose it with a passion. You?

#26 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-17 06:33 PM | Reply

"Are you in favor of Tenure? I oppose it with a passion. You?"

Just in school, or do you hate tenure in court too?

And why? Do you have evidence that systems without tenure that perform better?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 06:51 PM | Reply

Zed, If there's no rational case for voting for Trump, you shouldn't be worried

#26 | Posted by Rocky_b at

That does not follow.

If there is a rational case strong enough to overcome Trump's profound unfitness as man and president....Well, that would be interesting.

Hold forth if you can.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-17 06:53 PM | Reply

#26 | Posted by Rocky_

After all the Republican angst about Manchurian candidates, starting at least in 2000, when a hot mess of by way of example comes your way the only thing you interesting people can think to do is vote him a second term.

Madness.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-17 06:56 PM | Reply

#26 There was no rational case for voting for Hitler either. Somehow he won election and took the reins of power. Rationality is not a strong argument for electability. Many cruel and murderous leaders are freely elected.

We have plenty to worry about with Trump and the Trump imitators to follow.

Maybe one day you will see this but for now I just don't think you've lived enough or suffered enough to understand how easily people can be becomee like monsters,even "good" people become vicious and intolerant when their comfort zone is cramped by financial or social pressures they can't easily escape.

Reflect,and take care.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-17 07:04 PM | Reply

Most Trump voters don't provide rational reasons when asked what they like about him.

They like him for his irrational qualities.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 07:52 PM | Reply

Inteeesting. A bunch of Democrats lynched a black man for voting his will and somehow it's Trump's fault.

#32 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2020-09-17 08:54 PM | Reply

It is not Trump's fault.

It is Trump's inspiration.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:01 PM | Reply

Trump is Nazi wannabe. Trumpies yearn for the goose-stepping,the great spectacles at huge rallies. The whole power trip is the -------- anything but rational. It's vainglory and hubris,with a twist of gratuitous cruelty thrown in for ----- and grins.

It's the dark side of humanity made manifest in our times.

#34 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-17 09:42 PM | Reply

#34 You honestly believe that Trump wants to put 6 million _________________ people into concentration camps and summarily slaughter them?

Jesus, you people are deranged.

#35 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 09:44 PM | Reply

POSTED BY ZETALEPH

They're already sterilizing women in concentration camps in Georgia.

Trump is using the military to attack protestors and unmarked vehicles are picking people off the streets.

White supremacists are marching around fully armed and screaming about wanting civil wars.

You don't care because it doesn't effect you.

You're a fkkking (R)Tard and you're hoping Trump's America becomes permanent.

Because without white supremacy. You're nothing but trash.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-17 09:54 PM | Reply

Not necessarily,but the whole I want to be president for life -------- is there. The whole worship of autocrats,the contempt for compromise. The desire to hurt perceived enemies physically. The desire to destroy vulnerable groups like the undocumented. So yes, in the balance,I think Trump is a nascent dictator with dreams of total domination of the "subjects".

I don't believe he sees citizens. I think he sees subjects.

In that sense he is a totalitarian.

Is he murderous like Hitler?

Who the hell knows?

I don't want to find out after the fact.

I want that ------ gone.

Permanently.

#37 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-17 09:56 PM | Reply

POSTED BY ZETALEPH

You haven't given a shht about anything so far and if news of mass genocide became public, you'd figure out someway to rationalize it.

Hell. Trump admitting to knowing how deadly COVID actually is and 200,000 American deaths hasn't changed your mind.

Some dead brown people in a ditch along the border isn't going to bother you.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-17 09:58 PM | Reply

#36 Everything you cited in that BS post is demonstrably and provably wrong.

You need to read outside your Trump-hating progressive little bubble.

You are brainwashed and it's not pretty.

It doesn't even anger me - I just feel pity.

#39 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 10:33 PM | Reply

" #36 Everything you cited in that BS post is demonstrably and provably wrong."

Then get to work, let's see it.

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-17 10:34 PM | Reply

Everything you cited in that BS post is demonstrably and provably wrong.
#39 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Go for it.

Prove me wrong.

Based on your statement, it should be an easy accomplishment.

Show your work.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-17 10:41 PM | Reply

Homeland Security Dept. Affirms Threat of White Supremacy After Years of Prodding

"I would like to take this opportunity to be direct and unambiguous in addressing a major issue of our time. In our modern age, the continuation of racially based violent extremism, particularly violent white supremacy, is an abhorrent affront to the nation," Mr. McAleenan said during an address last month, describing white nationalism as one of the most dangerous threats to the United States.

www.nytimes.com

Pity the fool Zetapoofter.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-17 10:43 PM | Reply

It doesn't even anger me - I just feel pity.
#39 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

All you got are emotions.

Anger, pity. Who cares.

You got zero facts.

Sucks for you.

Fat troll without a bridge to hide under.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-17 10:44 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is a great man and a great president.

It's going to be fun watching you sallies fully melt down when he kicks the crap out of the geriatric dementia-addled fool Democrats nominated for president.

#44 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 11:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Donald Trump is a great man

Trump is a pedophile, and probably a rapist too.

#45 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-17 11:08 PM | Reply

Looks like Clownshack was accurate.

#46 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-17 11:10 PM | Reply

It's funny to watch people who celebrate abortion and not only want ZERO restrictions on it but want taxpayers to fund it to even raise concerns about unproven sterilizations - it's just preemptive abortion.

#47 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 11:14 PM | Reply

Nobody CELEBRATES abortion , -------.

#48 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-17 11:17 PM | Reply

people who celebrate abortion

Do you think a guy that pays off porn stars after rawdogging them has ever paid for an abortion?

Think hard.

#49 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-17 11:18 PM | Reply

- want ZERO restrictions

Zetapoofter is totally brainwashed.... if he even has one.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-17 11:20 PM | Reply

"it's just preemptive abortion."

Yes, the government provides the same service in China, particularly to members of the undesirable Muslim Uighur community.

So I can see why you support it, but I can't see why you doubt the veracity of the claim. Maybe you can, and you'll show me.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 11:27 PM | Reply

Nobody CELEBRATES abortion , -------.
#48 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ

I think that's a little bit unfair, shame on you!
I mean, I could see the father of a white girl who got raped by a black man celebrating it...

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 11:31 PM | Reply

Well he wouldn't buy a cake

#53 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-17 11:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I do know one couple that had a No Baby Shower, when the guy got his snip job confirmed: no swimmers.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 11:43 PM | Reply

Well he wouldn't buy a cake
#53 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ

Yeah.
Hallmark hasn't quite figured out how to expand their market into the lucrative "Sorry You Got Raped" territory yet.
But I'm sure they've got their best minds working on it!

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 11:45 PM | Reply

"- want ZERO restrictions

Zetapoofter is totally brainwashed.... if he even has one.

#50 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2020-09-17 11:20 PM"

Zero restrictions passed in a couple of Democrat-run states and it's been the position of the likes of Hillary Clinton.

You must not pay attention to the news.

Progressives LOVE abortion; think it's beautiful.

#56 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 11:46 PM | Reply

Progressives LOVE abortion; think it's beautiful.

POSTED BY ZETALEPH AT 2020-09-17 11:46 PM | REPLY

when all else fails...lie.

#57 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-17 11:47 PM | Reply

#54 Lol, I got my vasectomy at planned parenthood. Some here would say that would go against their business strategy.

Because they only do one thing, right righties.

#58 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-17 11:50 PM | Reply

- it's been the position of the likes of Hillary Clinton.

More lies... it's really hard to tell where the stupid stops and the lies start with this turd.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-17 11:51 PM | Reply

I think abortion needs to be legal during the first 20 weeks.

That doesn't mean I get all warm inside thinking about it.

It's a brutal act.

Kermit Gosnell is a hero of the left.

#60 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 11:51 PM | Reply

OK... obviously the stupid never stops.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-17 11:52 PM | Reply

Progressives tried to pretend Gosnell didn't even exist.

Progressives and Democrats are the Party of infanticide and riots.

#62 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 11:54 PM | Reply

"Kermit Gosnell"

Drink!

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 11:55 PM | Reply

It's a brutal act. No kidding, that's why nobody celebrates it, -------.

You dreamy people think it's the same as leaving the pool for a pedicure for women.

Stfu

#64 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-17 11:59 PM | Reply

I got my vasectomy at planned parenthood.
#58 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ AT 2020-09-17 11:50 PM

Did they nestle you into a dimly lit recovery nopk with a warm robe, a glass of white zin and a hot towel for your lady bits after?

#65 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 12:02 AM | Reply

Can't believe I think this but I'd rather read Bill Johnson than zetafcck.

#66 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-18 12:03 AM | Reply

#65, no
But they were polite.

#67 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-18 12:06 AM | Reply

And no hot towel, ice.
Never thought ice would feel good on my balls but

#68 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-18 12:11 AM | Reply

"Progressives tried to pretend Gosnell didn't even exist."

Yeah, I remember when progressives erased history by tearing down all the statues of Kermit Gosnell.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-18 12:11 AM | Reply

#67

If you give LoD some tweezers, a magnifying glass, some tiny tissues, and a picture of Trump... he'll be gone for a few seconds.

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-18 12:12 AM | Reply

I'm beginning to think Corky has Down's Syndrome.

#71 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 12:18 AM | Reply

- I'm beginning to think

Citation necessary.

#72 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-18 12:19 AM | Reply

Corky, the original hipster!

#73 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 01:00 AM | Reply

#71 and #73

Wow after all these years I bet Corky never heard those ones before.

Lol#sad

#74 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-18 01:07 AM | Reply

But #72 was new and original? [...].

#75 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 01:17 AM | Reply

#75 yeah, okay you got me there, ;^)

#76 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-09-18 01:18 AM | Reply

I'm beginning to think Corky has Down's Syndrome.
#71 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

You reveal your true character more everyday.

Thank you for the effort.

Transparency is appreciated around these parts.

#77 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 01:31 AM | Reply

Progressives LOVE abortion; think it's beautiful.
#56 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Stop it, ZETA. You're drunk.

Just go home.

#78 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 01:33 AM | Reply

I wish I were drunk. Unfortunately I'm not.

Now, why don't you enlighten the class about systemic racism in this country and how conditions are worse for blacks than they were decades ago under Jim Crow.

I always love that argument. It's great theater.

#79 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 01:49 AM | Reply

See, because systemic racism isn't as bad as it once was, it couldn't possibly still be quite bad.... that's what passes for "reason" among rwingers.

#80 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-18 02:12 AM | Reply

#80 You actually acknowledge it wasn't as bad as it once was.....for that admission alone I take away my "Down's Syndrome" comment and apologize for it.

Progressives act like black people are rounded up and slaughtered in this country to a degree and manner that would make Hitler look like a humanitarian.

Back in 2008 I hoped that electing a black man as president, via 'Hope and Change' and 'Kumbaya' and all of that stuff would have advanced race relations. Instead, Obama took that tremendous opportunity and instead chose to foster and promote racial strife.

I guess it was naive to think that a husband and wife, who inherently despise the country they were elected to lead, would have any interest in trying to improve race relations in this country.

#81 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 02:29 AM | Reply

It's great theater.
#79 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

I'm not here to entertain you.

If you're so ignorant, or stubborn, to disregard the reality of the matter as it relates to systemic racism in 21st century America, I can do no better than suggest the consumption of academic journalism; more specifically The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Color Blindness by Dr. Michelle Alexander.

This is a book that I routinely recommend (going on half a decade) BOAZ take into consideration, yet he has failed me at every turn.

Maybe you will take heed. Regardless, I'm willing to spout the thesis established in the above literature ad nauseam to BOAZ only because I believe, as a black man, there's a piece of him that will take the information into deep consideration, even without acknowledging as such.

You, on the other hand, provide nothing more than what can be perceived as a bull ----, trolling attitude. Hence, if you're actually interested, read a fnkcing book (there's one highly recommended in this very post). And don't expect me to explain the (now quite clear and) obvious reality that is systemic racism in 21st America.

#82 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 02:35 AM | Reply

Zetaleph the pedophile is nothing more than a troll.

Literally a troll.

Don't feed the trolls.

RCade needs to ban that open troll account.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 02:43 AM | Reply

Systemic racism is a canard.

It's WAY over-blown.

If you are incapable of acknowledging the tremendous progress made over the course of the last 6 decades then you are hopeless.

Yeah - I recognize the disproportionate sentencing guidelines for cocaine possession vs crack possession.

Yeah - I recognize the draconian sentencing guidelines for minor drug offenses that hit blacks more than other demographics.

I am not suggesting that these arbitrary laws and guidelines produce neutral outcomes.

Having said that, we have made tremendous progress over the past 6 decades and if someone like Corky, who just overcame Down's Syndrome, can acknowledge that reality, in context, then you certainly should be able to do so.

Further - you seem laser-focused on some archaic drug sentencing laws dating back to the Clinton era, without even recognizing that the current racialist movement has turned the MLK vision of - let's not judge each other on the color of our skin but of the content of our character.

Do you have any idea how pervasive 'Critical Race Theory' has become?

Young white kids are being taught to hate themselves and think of themselves as irredeemable racists simply because of their skin color, which they have no control over.

That is some ------ up repugnant ----.

#84 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 02:47 AM | Reply

Zeta needs white supremacy to continue.

Trump/Kills the blacks and Jews 2020!

Zeta approves this message.

He's a fkkking loser.

#85 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 02:50 AM | Reply

How is Hezzbollah doing these days, Clownshack?

Almost as bad as ISIS and that has got to piss you off.

#86 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 02:55 AM | Reply

No more pallets of billions of dollars of unmarked cash for the Mullahs.

Instead, ground-breaking peace deals between Israel and Bahrein and the UAE less than 4 years after John Kerry condescendingly lectured the world that any peace deals with Israel were impossible without major capitulation with the Palestinians.

Yep. Considerable drawdown of troops overseas. No new wars or toppled governments. Enemies like Iran and N Korea more isolated than ever. Isreali embassy moved to Jerusalem. NATO allies cajoled into holding up their end of the bargain as it pertains to defense funding. Pushing back against China's predatory trade policies.

From a foreign policy standpoint Trump has been a fricking rock-star.

#87 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 03:02 AM | Reply

Let us not forget the normalization of relations between Kosovo and Serbia.

#88 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 03:04 AM | Reply

Systemic racism is a canard.
#84 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

The data proves otherwise.

Read. A. Fnkcing. Book.

#89 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 03:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You conflate causation with correlation.

"The data proves otherwise."

Oh really. Wanna take a guess how many unarmed black people were killed by police during 2018?

#90 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 03:16 AM | Reply

"Read. A. Fnkcing. Book.

#89 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"

I've read plenty of books on this subject. Probably more than you given your utter lack of any historical perspective.

#91 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 03:17 AM | Reply

#83 - what a -----.

#92 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 03:43 AM | Reply

Anyone who begs RCade to save them from another poster is a -----. Like Clownshack.

#93 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 03:46 AM | Reply

How is Hezzbollah doing these days, Clownshack?

They're probably under your bed.

Almost as bad as ISIS and that has got to piss you off.
#86 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Piss me off?

More emotional arguments.

All you got is trolling.

You don't have a real life.

This is as good as it gets for you.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 03:51 AM | Reply

Read. A. Fnkcing. Book.
#89 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

He can't.

Zeta has learned everything he knows from Trump's twitter feed.

He can't wait for fascism to fully take over America and punish those he hates.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 03:55 AM | Reply

This is as good as it gets for you.
#94 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-09-18 03:51 AM

Is that what you tell ---------- when you forego the lube?

#96 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 03:58 AM | Reply

what a -----.
#92 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

Anyone who begs RCade to save them from another poster is a -----. Like Clownshack.
#93 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

Oh look. Tough guy the troll is here to stick up for his (R)Tard troll friend.

Hey errand boy, fkkk off back to the Konservative Kry Klub and beg Jeff or Boaz to let you cry into they fat asses.

You fffking waste of a human being.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 03:59 AM | Reply

#97 - awww poor baby mad!

#98 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 04:00 AM | Reply

#96 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

Gay bashing and hate is all you got.

Were you ever not a troll?

Don't recall much about you other than you showing up to troll whoever your betters were trolling.

Seems you haven't changed much.

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 04:01 AM | Reply

#97 - tell you what toddler sniffer, admit you're ------- ---------- in his rusty ------- and I'll disappear

#100 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 04:02 AM | Reply

#98 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

Good response.

Really bringing your best to the table.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 04:03 AM | Reply

#101 - thanks, I knew it would tickle your ----.

#102 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 04:04 AM | Reply

#102

Freud would have a field day with your posts.

It's nonstop sexual assault and abuse.

You really are fkkked in the head.

Get help. Stay away from children.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 04:10 AM | Reply

"nonstop sexual assault and abuse"

I.e., the Clownshack Lifeleak special

#104 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 04:13 AM | Reply

Seriously though, why be a bitch? Why not just admit you love rape?

(obviously directed at Clownshack in case anyone was confused)

#105 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 04:14 AM | Reply

Re: #106

How did Obama worsen the country's racism?

#107 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-18 08:47 AM | Reply

"the beneficiary of a white largess"

Nothing the least bit racist about that.

#108 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-18 09:26 AM | Reply

"the beneficiary of a white largess"

I am not in the least surprised by your attitude. It's one of those engines of Trumpism. Dark-colored people don't know their place; they OWE you. More importantly, some Black person managed to get something you don't have. In the specific case of Obama, almost everything.

#109 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-18 09:29 AM | Reply

How did Obama worsen the country's racism?

It's a twofer.

White supremacists became furious a black man was the president.

Trump lead an 8 year conspiracy fueled, birtherism, assault on Obama.

Crazy enough. Even back then he had the dumbest Americans parroting his conspiracies. Even here on the DR.

The most racist man in America, Boaz, still to this day, questions Obama's college application and place of birth.

It's not hard to see why idiots, like Boaz, support Trump. They hate their lives. They're only happy when they know others are worse off than them.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 12:19 PM | Reply

The most racist man in America, Boaz
---

This is the hysterical coozery that sets the Retort apart from other forums.

#111 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#111 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

It's 10 am Pacific time.

Let's see if you can post something actually worth reading in the next 12 hours.

My bet is you can't produce anything more than your own special brand of "hilarious" trolling.

#112 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 01:07 PM | Reply

Let's see if you can post something actually worth reading in the next 12 hours.
#112 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-09-18 01:07 PM

I always custom tailor my responses to the reading level and intellect of whomever I'm responding to. Enjoy!

#113 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 01:25 PM | Reply

Settle down, boys.

#114 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-09-18 01:28 PM | Reply

White supremacists became furious a black man was the president.

No one gave a ---- he was black. But you have to keep pushing that narrative to your ignorant voters.

This happened YEARS ago. How much more are you going to prosecute this? The people responsible for it are probably DEAD. But to keep prosecuting decades old crimes on the generations of whites today is only widening the gap between the races.

#115 | Posted by boaz at 2020-09-18 01:31 PM | Reply

No one gave a ---- he was black.

Is that why Birtherism was such a huge success?

Lie to yourself all you want.

You hated Obama because he was black. You were the most vocal poster about him being born in Kenya and lying to get into college.

You hate black people, Boaz.

But, I bet that feeling is more than mutual.

#116 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 01:38 PM | Reply

I always custom tailor my responses!
#113 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

Wow. You're such a maverick.

#117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 01:40 PM | Reply

But to keep prosecuting decades old crimes on the generations of whites today

Decades old?

George Floyd was decades ago?

Breonna Taylor was decades ago?

Ahmaud Arbery was decades ago?

Elijah McClain was decades ago?

Tamir Rice was decades ago?

You hate Blake Americans Boaz.

You always have. Since I first started posting and you kept referring to black Americans as living in Democratic plantations.

#118 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 01:51 PM | Reply

Blake = black.

Fast thumbs were a bit too fast.

#119 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 01:51 PM | Reply

George Floyd was decades ago?

Breonna Taylor was decades ago?

Ahmaud Arbery was decades ago?

Elijah McClain was decades ago?

Tamir Rice was decades ago?

Those were recent. And apples to oranges to the past.

#120 | Posted by boaz at 2020-09-18 02:00 PM | Reply

Obama is all about power and ego. He needs to make the country into some racist hellhole that he was somehow able to overcome despite the color of his skin to stroke his ego. In fact, he was Kaepernick before it was a thing - the beneficiary of a white largess rather than its victim pretending otherwise to adoring crowds of mouth-breathers.

That, combined with trying to keep blacks on the DNC plantation led him to cause as much racial strife as possible.

#106 | Posted by bizarro_world

All obama did was BE black.

His skin color drove all the racists insane and made you think every thing he did was racist and malicious in some way.

Trump's skin color blinds you to the facts about his ignorance, malice, and incompetence. Trump can do no wrong in your eyes, and obama can do no right, because you're a flaming racist moron.

#121 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-18 02:06 PM | Reply

Those were recent. And apples to oranges to the past.

What? 50 shades of racism?

Killing people, in the past, for the color of their skin, is different from the recent killings of people, based on the color of their skin?

How?

#122 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 02:07 PM | Reply

You're such a maverick.
#117 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-09-18 01:40 PM

Thanks. You can get off your knees now.

#123 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 02:18 PM | Reply

Probably more than you given your utter lack of any historical perspective.
#91 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Laughable. I've written a master's thesis with institutional racism as a core factor. Believe me, the background section was thorough. This is not an appeal to authority, I'm merely addressing your baseless assertion.

Funny, the one book that more than likely would convince you is the one book that BOAZ refuses to read. Are you also refusing? Are you going to choose ignorance like BOAZ has done for years?

#124 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 07:13 PM | Reply

Those were recent. And apples to oranges to the past.
#120 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Was Amadou Diallo recent?
How about Rampart?

#125 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-18 07:24 PM | Reply

#90 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

With a broad enough data set, correlation can imply causation (ever heard of causal networks?).

#126 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 07:25 PM | Reply

"No one gave a ---- he was black."

LOL dude.

Memes like the Presidential Motorcade on spinners, with fuzzy dice, curb feelers, and a chain license plate holder were all over the place.

And then there was the watermelon. Lots and lots of watermelon. Fried chicken too.

#127 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-18 07:26 PM | Reply

"Wanna take a guess how many unarmed black people were killed by police during 2018?"

I do!

Is it as high as 3x disproportionately more than they killed unarmed white people?

#128 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-18 07:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No one gave a ---- he was black. But you have to keep pushing that narrative to your ignorant voters.

Save for Trump...and many, many of his supporters.

But to keep prosecuting decades old crimes on the generations of whites today is only widening the gap between the races.
#115 | POSTED BY BOAZ

It must be continuously prosecuted because the change hasn't been made. Those people are dead yet their racist legacies live on through policy and laws that have been maintained as the status quo. This was purposeful and the fact I'm sitting here explaining this to you absolutely speaks volumes.

Why in the hell are you STILL choosing ignorance?! Give me a book title to read! I'll read it and report back. But only if you promise to read my suggested title. You accused me of being willfully ignorant. Here I am hammering into your fnkcing skull that I choose not to be. Give me a fnkcing title.

Are you willing to make the same proclamation? Or are we going through another half decade of you refusing to do learn?

#129 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 07:29 PM | Reply

Hey Rsty, I wouldn't mind reading your thesis, but I suppose it would be a better use of my time to read The New Jim Crow, which I still haven't done.

#130 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-18 07:31 PM | Reply

" And then there was the watermelon. Lots and lots of watermelon. Fried chicken too."

Don't forget the grass skirt and the bone through his nose.

#131 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-09-18 07:33 PM | Reply

Hey Rsty, I wouldn't mind reading your thesis, but I suppose it would be a better use of my time to read The New Jim Crow, which I still haven't done.
#130 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

You are spot on with that assessment.

However, if you have access to the SDSU Love Library, I believe it's on the 3rd floor where you can find most Public Administration materials.

#132 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 07:34 PM | Reply

Don't forget the grass skirt and the bone through his nose.
#131 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

Or the constant screaming about Kenya.

#133 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 07:34 PM | Reply

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