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Thursday, September 17, 2020

Attorney General William Barr expressed frustration with some local and state prosecutors' handling of riot-related crimes, telling top Justice Department prosecutors that he wants them to be aggressive in bringing charges related to protest violence, including exploring using a rarely used sedition law, according to a person familiar with the matter.

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When Trump is able to use sedition laws against the population then the dictatorship has arrived.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-17 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I guess that means Barr will be charging all boogaloo group members with sedition since they are the ones killing cops.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2020-09-17 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

AG Barr is trying to pull a "Mom and Apple Pie" analogy here. It s hard to argue against better handling of rioters.

That aside...

While I do agree with him that we need to, ummm..., handle better the violent and property-destroying rioters, there are laws on the books that allow us to do so, without having to invoke the vital sedition law.

What concerns me is how far AG Barr will go in using the sedition law. I mean, so far he has used unidentified federal troops and unmarked vans to kidnap peaceful protesters off the street.

If he is capable of going that far, how much further can/will he go?


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-17 12:32 PM | Reply

All hail King Trump!

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-17 12:37 PM | Reply

fricken Authoritarian Nazis...

Never enough guns for these people.
95% of protests (if not more) are peaceful.
You going to charge peaceful protesters w Sedition?
To get a monster reelected? Sure you are...because
you are one too...

#5 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-09-17 01:05 PM | Reply

Klye Rittenhouse is simply a naive teen who got caught up in a riot propagated by those Antifa gangsters. His case should be transferred to federal court, so he can be released...
-Bill Barr, second-most dangerous man in the world

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2020-09-17 01:18 PM | Reply

But a president who sells american weapons in exchange for foreign election interference doesn't deserve any punishment does he Barr?

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-17 01:18 PM | Reply

#6 | POSTED BY CATDOG

Please tell me that that is satire...

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-17 01:32 PM | Reply

I counter Barr's argument with.......I suggest Barr himself be
charged with sedition and treason.

#9 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-09-17 04:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Stating that 95% of the protests were peaceful is entertaining. That means that only 5% of the protests caused $2 Billion in damages. That's one impressive wrecking crew.

#10 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-17 04:40 PM | Reply

#10

How many people do you think it takes to break some windows and set some fires?

#11 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-09-17 07:15 PM | Reply

#11 More than $2 BILLION worth????

A lot.

#12 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 07:29 PM | Reply

Adjusted for inflation the cost for two weeks of George Floyd riots across 20 states is about the same as the cost of five days of Rodney King riots in LA.

Riots in 20 states costing so little they add up the same as riots in one city is a perspective right-wingers can't see.

www.axios.com

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 07:40 PM | Reply

Snoofy. I know you're so far left in your thinking, I believe you're going to fall off this flat earth but this comment is beyond your usual comments. You actually are justifying riots? I sure hope there are some reasonable liberals on this site who will agree with me that riots are never good and $100 Million or $2 Billion is completely unnecessary and counter productive to any cause. Whenever someone says, it's was only $2 Billion (and adjusted to inflation it's only $100 if this riot occurred in Rome in 10 BCE), I'll ask you, at what amount of destruction will even you be offended by?

#14 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-17 08:07 PM | Reply

"I'll ask you, at what amount of destruction will even you be offended by?

#14 | POSTED BY ROCKY_B AT 2020-09-17 08:07 PM"

I'm guessing he thought the Tea Party protests were the worst thing ever.

No arrests. No vandalism. No violence. And they even pulled permits and picked up after themselves.

#15 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 08:35 PM | Reply

"You actually are justifying riots?"

Do you justify the Boston Tea Party or not?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 08:55 PM | Reply

"I sure hope there are some reasonable liberals on this site who will agree with me that riots are never good"

Boston Tea Party was never good, then?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 08:56 PM | Reply

....I suggest Barr himself be
charged with sedition and treason.

#9 | POSTED BY A_MONSON

Obstruction of justice and violating the posse comitatus act and interference in ongoing criminal cases for political purposes.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-17 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We can just do Stonewall if that's better for you.
Stonewall was a watershed moment for gay rights movement.
I think it's safe to say it was a "good riot."

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Whenever someone says, it's was only $2 Billion (and adjusted to inflation it's only $100 if this riot occurred in Rome in 10 BCE), I'll ask you, at what amount of destruction will even you be offended by?"

What makes you say I'm not offended by the Proud Boy/Boogaloo Boy who smashed out the windows in the Minneapolis AutoZone?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 08:59 PM | Reply

No arrests. No vandalism. No violence. And they even pulled permits and picked up after themselves.

#15 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

I wonder what would have happened if the attorney general manager under Obama had ordered the tea party protesters cleared by force with federal troops on horseback using tear gas and rubber bullets all for a photo opportunity for Obama.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-17 09:00 PM | Reply

Did someone say Tea Party?

A Tea Party protester holds a sign saying "Remember: Dissent is Patriotic" at a Nashville Tea Party on February 27, 2009.
en.wikipedia.org

Funny, they don't call us patriots when we dissent from Trump and Barr.

They call us Communists.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:03 PM | Reply

"I wonder what would have happened if the attorney general manager under Obama had ordered the tea party protesters cleared by force with federal troops on horseback using tear gas and rubber bullets all for a photo opportunity for Obama.

#21 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2020-09-17 09:00 PM"

Are you actually equating arson, looting, vandalism and assaults (even murder) with the Tea Party protests?

That is some absurd equivalence.

#23 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 09:03 PM | Reply

The Boston Tea Party wasn't a riot, moron.

#24 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-17 09:04 PM | Reply

#23 He's saying the police sided with the Tea Party, so the police didn't feel the need to start any violence.

Just like the police sided with the LIBERATE MICHIGAN protesters so they didn't feel the need to counter those protests with violence.

Police don't (often) side with Black Lives Matter protesters. So they use violence against those protesters.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:06 PM | Reply

The Boston Tea Party wasn't a riot, moron.
#24 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Sure it was.
They even tore down a historic statue!

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:06 PM | Reply

Are you actually equating arson, looting, vandalism and assaults (even murder) with the Tea Party protests?

That is some absurd equivalence.

#23 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

That's some absurd ignorance.

The protesters that were attacked by Trumpy's stormtroopers in Lafayette square were peaceful protesters.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-17 09:19 PM | Reply

Did someone say $1-2 billion dollars in property damage from a riot was a lot?

Because that's how much damage the Boston Tea Party riot caused.

The property damage amounted to the destruction of 92,000 pounds or 340 chests of tea, reported by the British East India Company worth 9,659 worth, or $1,700,000 dollars in today's money.
en.wikipedia.org

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:19 PM | Reply

Oops, off by a factor of a thousand.

Math is hard.

Stay in school, kids!

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:21 PM | Reply

snoofy- you beat me to it.

#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-17 09:22 PM | Reply

Whether or not Samuel Adams helped plan the Boston Tea Party is disputed, but he immediately worked to publicize and defend it.[73] He argued that the Tea Party was not the act of a lawless mob, but was instead a principled protest and the only remaining option the people had to defend their constitutional rights en.wikipedia.org

To which I say: It was both. Sometimes a lawless mob is the only remaining option.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:22 PM | Reply

he protesters that were attacked by Trumpy's stormtroopers in Lafayette square were peaceful protesters.
#27 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

^
They'll deny this to their dying breath.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:25 PM | Reply

Sure it was. They even tore down a historic statue!

But the people who did so were prepared to initiate, and then subsequently execute, a violent revolution.

People like you aren't.

It depends on what you're mad about, I guess.

There's a reason people can quote the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence some 250 years after it was penned.

Nobody's gonna know or care who the ---- Robin DiAngelo is in 6 months.

#33 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-17 09:25 PM | Reply

"But the people who did so were prepared to initiate, and then subsequently execute, a violent revolution."

So they were violent.
Maybe you should let Zetaleph know.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:30 PM | Reply

"There's a reason people can quote the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence some 250 years after it was penned."

Indeed, well-crafted propaganda has a timeless appeal.
Lots of Nazi propaganda is being refurbished by Deplorables, for example.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:33 PM | Reply

"Nobody's gonna know or care who the ---- Robin DiAngelo is in 6 months."

I don't know who he is right now.
Is he one of the boogeymen Rush Limbaugh scares you with?

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:34 PM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Not sure the arithmetic works there?

#37 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-17 09:34 PM | Reply

Since you brought up America's Greatest Propaganda Piece Ever, let's see what wise counsel it can offer for America, a quarter of a millennium later:

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

More people voted for Hillary Clinton, and she's not President, so you know what that means, right?

"--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:36 PM | Reply

"Not sure the arithmetic works there?"

^
"We're gonna need a bigger boat."

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 09:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"

The prerequisite, of course, being the ability to do so.

Angry middle-class Soy-Boys traveling the Information Superhighway in the Positive Feedback Lane aren't really "The People".

That's going to become painfully apparent in a few weeks. And it's OK to be mad about it.

#40 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-17 09:48 PM | Reply

More people voted for Hillary Clinton, and she's not President, so you know what that means, right?

It means she lost the election and isn't President.

You know what that means, right?

#41 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-17 09:51 PM | Reply

You know what that means, right?
#41 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

The confederate party is finally in charge of America?

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-17 10:00 PM | Reply

"It means she lost the election and isn't President."

Losing the election while winning the most votes is destructive to the precept that our government is deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Millions more people consented to Clinton than Trump.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-17 11:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#43

Yes, but they weren't real 'Mericans.

You wanna know 'bout real 'Mericans?

www.youtube.com

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-17 11:46 PM | Reply

Neither Barr nor Trump are behaving as individuals who believe they will be leaving in a few months. What do they know that you don't? Orange Jesus works for Putin. He will not be leaving in January. Neither he nor his boss can afford to lose the election. My bet is there's a fake saber rattling war already planned by Orange Jesus and his boss. War time Presidents win.

#45 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-18 02:04 AM | Reply

I think the FBI and CIA under Trump are going to launch and unprecedented spying operation into the Biden campaign.

#46 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 02:07 AM | Reply

This would totally negate all of the electioneering by Biden and all of the talking heads acting as if there's a contest between trump and biden. There will be no election. Orange Jesus has told over 20000 lies and 42% of Americans still trust him. It will only take a small crisis to win reelection. It's coming. Wait for it. If you don't believe me, at least act surprised when it happens.

#47 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-18 02:09 AM | Reply

It's coming. Wait for it. If you don't believe me, at least act surprised when it happens.
#47 | POSTED BY ILOVEYOU

You're referring to Disclosure, aren't you!?

The Disclosure that extraterrestrials have been visiting Earth for a longer period of time than humans have been civilized.

IOW, they have been here before we even conceived of their being.

Is that what you're talking about? Cuz that's what I'm talking about!

#48 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 02:41 AM | Reply

I think
#46 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH

Doubtful.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 02:46 AM | Reply

"I think the FBI and CIA under Trump are going to launch and unprecedented spying operation into the Biden campaign."

Yeah because of the cooperation with Russians that the Biden campaign is doing. ....oh wait the Russians are working against Biden and for Trump. Thing is the Trump campaign's cooperation with Russians was documented by the Republican led Senate Intelligence Committee. Fact!

#50 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-18 10:40 AM | Reply

My bet is there's a fake saber rattling war already planned by Orange Jesus and his boss. War time Presidents win.

#45 | POSTED BY ILOVEYOU AT 2020-09-18 02:04 AM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

This used to be my fear, but I suspect the opinions of dime-store slurring Mussolini are baked in and would not move much even if he started a war. Also, since the illegal Iraq war debacle, the American people are still very skeptical of wars started for election purposes. Unless it was an attack on the US of Pearl Harbor proportions, I doubt a war would rally many votes to Drumpf.

#51 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-09-19 12:10 PM | Reply

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