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Friday, September 18, 2020

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural and feminist icon, died Friday. The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer of the pancreas. The court, in a statement, said Ginsburg died at her home in Washington surrounded by family.

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Rest in peace, pioneer.

#1 | Posted by ABH at 2020-09-18 07:42 PM | Reply

An amazing life. Well done.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2020-09-18 07:43 PM | Reply

Dies

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-09-18 07:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Terrible fnkcing news.

Another fnkcing crisis heading into an election.

I can hear Trump, Barr, and McConnell cheering from here.

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-18 07:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This certain to set off a political firestorm.

Rest in peace Justice Ginsburg. You served honorably and well. May your successor be so fortunate.

#5 | Posted by et_al at 2020-09-18 07:45 PM | Reply

RIP

The Democrats are going to scream bloody murder when Trump and McConnell fill the seat.

#6 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 07:46 PM | Reply

#6 Because they should you ----- of ----.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 07:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The Democrats are going to scream bloody murder when Trump and McConnell fill the seat.

Are you going to scream bloody murder if they do that?

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 07:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Damn. This sucks. You lived a remarkable life and served honorably. May you rest in piece and may you rejoin your husband.

#9 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 07:56 PM | Reply

Rest in power RGB. You indeed were an American giant in jurisprudence.
Thank you so much for your service to this nation. We are forever in your debt.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 07:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As for the politics of this....SCOTUS vacancies take longer than 6 weeks to be filled. This is going to just amp up the importance of this election for both political parties.

#11 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Damn, ...RBG.

That's how shook up I am right now.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 07:57 PM | Reply

#11 not with that POS McConnell in charge. Hell ram through some Unqualified ideologue to ensure there's no question.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 07:58 PM | Reply

#11 Oops, I didn't take into account the lame duck session.

#13 I'm not a fan of the ABA mostly because they are biased left, but even with that taken into account Trump's judicial nominees have had a higher average ABA score than Obama's nominees. So, you might want to rethink that talking point.

#15 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 08:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

RIP,she was a tough old lady for sure. If March was to close to election last time , McConnell should leave this till after january.

#16 | Posted by patron at 2020-09-18 08:02 PM | Reply

#11

I doubt it. I'm sure the wheels started turning the moment the news was known. Before Halloween.

#17 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 08:03 PM | Reply

Aww man.
I loved her on Laugh In.

All kidding aside I hope she rests in peace.

#18 | Posted by HanoverFist at 2020-09-18 08:03 PM | Reply

We will now see, once again, the unbridle hypocrisy of the republican party.

I hope all those puritopians who didnt vote for Clinton are really and truly happy.

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:04 PM | Reply

#19 What McConnell did with Garland was not without precedent. That had been done before, however we have to go back more than 100 years since the last time it happened. Abe Fortas in the '60's was a different situation. That was a bipartisan filibuster because of potential illegalities on his part and he was already on the Court - his nomination was for Chief justice.

#20 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 08:07 PM | Reply

Based on historical precedent it wouldn't actually be hypocritical for Trump to make a nomination and McConnell to try and get it across the finish line before January 20. Regardless, I hope it doesn't happen that way. Make this a campaign issue.

#21 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-09-18 08:08 PM | Reply

#8

"Are you going to scream bloody murder if they do that?"

Why would I? You have access to my entire posting history. Go back and you'll see that I disagreed with the Garland situation.

#22 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 08:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Based on historical precedent it wouldn't actually be hypocritical ...

That's a crock of ----. Nobody has to explain the hypocrisy of McConnell appointing a replacement for RBG this year.

#23 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 08:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Here comes Justice Ivanka.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-18 08:12 PM | Reply

#19 What McConnell did with Garland was not without precedent. That had been done before, however we have to go back more than 100 years since the last time it happened. Abe Fortas in the '60's was a different situation. That was a bipartisan filibuster because of potential illegalities on his part and he was already on the Court - his nomination was for Chief justice.

POSTED BY ZETALEPH AT 2020-09-18 08:07 PM | REPLY

-------- Jeff. It's never been done before because it's unconstitutional. Of course you won't hold your side accountable for anything.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-09-18 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Based on historical precedent it wouldn't actually be hypocritical ...

I have no idea how some people live with the cognitive dissonance.

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#23

Bull. It's politics. The commucrats would do the same thing if the roles were reversed.

#28 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 08:16 PM | Reply

Time, nomination to confirmation.

Of the 15 nominees listed in the figure [1975 to present], Robert Bork waited the greatest number of days (108) from nomination to a final Senate vote"followed by Clarence Thomas (99), while John Paul Stevens waited the, fewest number of days (19)"followed by Sandra Day O'Connor (33).57

Overall, the average number of days from nomination to final Senate vote is 69.6 days (or approximately 2.3 months), while the median is 69.0 days.58

Of the eight Justices currently serving on the Court, the average number of days from nomination to final Senate vote is 72.0 days (or approximately 2.4 months), while the median is 69.5 days. Among the current Justices, Ruth Bader Ginsburg waited the fewest number of days from nomination to confirmation (42), while Clarence Thomas waited the greatest number of days (99).

www.fas.org

#29 | Posted by et_al at 2020-09-18 08:17 PM | Reply

#23
Bull. It's politics. The commucrats would do the same thing if the roles were reversed.

#28 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

lying piece of ----.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Et al, that doesnt consider the time that was spent denying Obama his selection.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#29 irrelevant. The GOP won't miss the opportunity to make 5-4 rulings a thing of the past and long term GOP rule by judicial fiat a reality.

A replacement will be seated by the election.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The commucrats would do the same thing if the roles were reversed.

Evil people always justify their actions by saying the other side would have done it. This is of course --------.

#33 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#30

That's an opinion, you idiotic dbag.

#34 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 08:25 PM | Reply

#34 no it's a fantasy to justify what's coming.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 08:27 PM | Reply

#33

Differing opinions, rcade. No facts stated. I guess I have "evil" opinions.

#36 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 08:28 PM | Reply

I guess I have "evil" opinions.

You're justifying what McConnell is about to do. How do you expect people to react to leaders in power whose only standard is "---- you we can do anything we want at any time"?

#37 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 08:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

RIP, thank you for your service to our country.

#38 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-09-18 08:29 PM | Reply

So does this help Trump or hurt him if he and the GOP appoint a judge?
Is there any reason to vote for Trump once this seat is filled?
Or if it's not filled, will that be a driving get out the vote motivation for Trumpers and some conservatives to get that lock on the Supreme Court for a generation?
This is huge in so many ways, politically.

I really loved RBG, too. What a firecracker she was.

#39 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-18 08:29 PM | Reply

#30
That's an opinion, you idiotic dbag.

#34 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

You being a piece of ----? No, that is established fact-like gravity.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

RIP RBG... she fought the good fight of an intellectual patriot.

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

Issac Asimov

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-18 08:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...would do the same thing if the roles were reversed.
#28 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

Except the roles have been reversed and they haven't done the same thing.

Hiding lies under the guise of opinion is poor sportsmanship.

#42 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-09-18 08:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

On her replacement... can Rudy still serve if he's already in prison next year?

Who will Vlad support for the job?

Inquiring minds....

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-18 08:36 PM | Reply

The politics of this are more complicated than they look. If - as everyone assumes - Trump nominates a replacement and McConnell announces an expedited schedule, every single Republican Senator up for re-election is going to be asked to square their acceptance of the Biden Rule in 2016 with the Trump/McConnell Renege of 2020.

And every Republican will be asked prior to the election if they intend to vote for the nominee - which in my opinion will doom them with most women in blue and purple states. While it will energize the anti abortion voters who might otherwise be questioning Trump's immorality, will they outnumber women who might not have intended to vote but now will be laser-focused upon losing control of their own bodies in red states?

Regardless, even if/when Roe is struck down, abortion is still going to be legal in most blue states and it will never become illegal there. All Roe did was federalize the issue; striking it down only puts it back into each state's legislature.

Murkowski evidently has already announced that she wants the next President to choose RBG's replacement, and all it will take is maybe Mitt Romney and perhaps Susan Collins, if she can locate her conscious somewhere to keep the nominee from being seated at least until after the election. Of course, if Trump wins, it's his right to have his nominee considered.

But I think if Corey Gardner and Martha McSally would seal their fates if they go along with Trump's nominee prior to the election.

One thing I do see that will help Trump and that's he'll surely pound the judge issue and try to bilk more money out of the anti abortion crowd to make up for his shortfall. The calculations of this election have suddenly become far more complicated with many more moving pieces.

#44 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 08:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My guess, Naomi Rao get the nod.

#45 | Posted by et_al at 2020-09-18 08:37 PM | Reply

#42

Maybe poor opinion. Please send a link to the last time we were in the same situation.

#46 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 08:38 PM | Reply

Can;t we Weekend at Bernie's her for a few weeks?

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Literally shouted out "FFFK" when the news showed up on my phone.

Rest In Peace RBG. You've lived a good life and fought an admirable fight. I'm sorry you never had a chance to retire before you passed.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 08:46 PM | Reply

#48 | POSTED BY BOAZ A

You must have been in a deep depression throughout 2016, then.

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:47 PM | Reply

As for the politics of this....SCOTUS vacancies take longer than 6 weeks to be filled.

McConnell will have it filled by Monday.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 08:47 PM | Reply

#48 | POSTED BY BOAZ A

You really should learn more Civics. With the elimination of the judicial filibuster, the Democrats cannot stop whomever Trump nominates if they receive at least 50 votes in the Senate (since Pence will cast the tiebreaker).

I'm shocked that you don't know that.

#52 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 08:48 PM | Reply

You're shocked at a trumptilian's ignorance???

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:50 PM | Reply

I wonder if ------- will be invited to the funeral.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 08:51 PM | Reply

Overall, the average number of days from nomination to final Senate vote is 69.6 days (or approximately 2.3 months), while the median is 69.0 days.58

Bet you McConnell breaks record.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 08:52 PM | Reply

Well...DJTs picks so far have been perceived by conservatives to be a flop.

#56 | Posted by visiter at 2020-09-18 08:54 PM | Reply

You're shocked at a trumptilian's ignorance???

Tony gives posters the benefit of a doubt that I stopped giving them a long time ago.

It's old school. Patience and a desire to teach.

I don't believe Boaz is a reasonable human being or here for a discussion. He's definitely not here to try and learn anything... Some people still may believe he is.

Hope springs eternal. I guess.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 08:57 PM | Reply

Of course McConnell has released a statement saying that of course the Senate will forward Trump's nomination because the GOP holds the majority from 2016, so that is what the voters want them to do.

So the Biden rule only applies when the opposition party of the President controls the Senate.

#58 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 08:59 PM | Reply

I wonder if ------- will be invited to the funeral.
#54 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

He's digging the grave and pissing in it.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 08:59 PM | Reply

I wonder if ------- will be invited to the funeral.

He won't be disinvited, but I doubt that he shows up. I expect that both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama will eulogize her at the public service.

No way in hell Trump will show up and sit for that.

#60 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 09:04 PM | Reply

So McConnell announced he will move ahead. The Supreme Court will pick the next President. The election is over Al Gore!

#61 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-18 09:05 PM | Reply

RIP Notorious RBG...you were a legend
in women's rights...you almost made it to the election old girl. Sadly, the classless Right,
led by the fiend that is McConnell, won't show any mercy or anything approaching forethought on the matter...the Turtle will find this fastest right wing toadie he can, and cram him right in there...

#62 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-09-18 09:05 PM | Reply

The Justice's body was not even cold yet when Mitch McConnell announced that there will definitely be a vote for a replacement before the election.

If Trump and McConnell insist on going forward with this, it could cement the fate of both Trump and the Republican controlled Senate.

OCU

#63 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-09-18 09:06 PM | Reply

This should definitely inflame passions on both sides.

Trump should go ahead and warming up the crowd for his fiddle concert, it's gonna be a barnburner!

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-18 09:06 PM | Reply

Republicans are scum.

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 09:08 PM | Reply

With Russia wanting Trump to win, and Trump doing anything Putin wants, is RBG's body going to be tested for Novichok?

#66 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-18 09:09 PM | Reply

class act that turtle be.

[...]

#67 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 09:11 PM | Reply

"If Trump and McConnell insist on going forward with this, it could cement the fate of both Trump and the Republican controlled Senate."

Trump plans on contesting the election. It will go to the supreme court. His newly confirmed judge and fellows will rule in Trump's favor. This completely deligitimizes the federal election and government in the eyes of many. Protests happen and Barr uses his "protest is sedition" argument to put dissenters in jail and disappears their leaders.

Any questions?

#68 | Posted by dibblda at 2020-09-18 09:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

For the good of hte country, McConnell should wait.

He won't. Republicans hate America. But he should

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 09:17 PM | Reply

This actually might not play in Trump's favor. There are suddenly a lot of very concerned people on the left side of the aisle. This might be enough to keep them from being complacent on election day, because they know what is at stake, whatever they think of Biden.

#70 | Posted by cbob at 2020-09-18 09:17 PM | Reply

And i think our nation is on a razor's edge. Americans are sick and tired of brutality by it's police force and corruption by the ------- administration. A large minority are inflamed by lies and propaganda. No matter the result in November (unless it is an overwhelming ------- victory) one side or other will declare it invalid.

These are depressing times.

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 09:21 PM | Reply

Elections have consequences.

The GOP came through for their side in 2016 while many self-proclaimed progressives and moderates decided to vote third party, vote Trump, or sit at home. Those progressives and moderates are responsible for the judicial appointments Trump has made. This next Trump appointee to the Supreme Court as well.

Will any of them learn from their mistakes? Maybe. But it'll take a generation, perhaps more, to undo the harm to the judiciary. Hope those moderates and progressives aren't so foolish as to be dissuaded by more Russian/GOP psyops in the next 50 years. Not getting my hopes up though.

#72 | Posted by censored at 2020-09-18 09:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

RIP

The Democrats are going to scream bloody murder when Trump and McConnell fill the seat.

#6 | Posted by willowby

You mean the mcconnel who said it was unfair to fill a supreme court seat in an election year?

The mcconnell who said FEBRUARY in an election year was too close to election day to make a supreme court appointment?

That's the mcconnell who you want to fill the seat now?

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-18 09:26 PM | Reply

"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,"

McConnell, 2016

You are about to witness naked republican hypocrisy on an undeniable level.
There is no way they can squirm around it. So they'll just say "What are you gonna do about it?"

Dems need to win, and then add a few more supreme court seats to even things up to where they should be based on presidents who actually won the popular vote.

#76 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-18 09:32 PM | Reply

And when McConnell is challenged as to why he denied Obama the opportunity to at least nominate and then hold hearings for a replacement for Scalia, because there was 9 months until the election, but would be willing to go ahead in this situation with less than 2 months, he will say that "It's different."

This is the same exact response that EVERY Republican gives when confronted with the hypocrisy of doing something that they had condemned Obama for doing, "It's different." The real difference, in their minds, is that since Obama was an illegitimate president, nothing that he ever did was illegitimate irrespective of what it was and why it was done. They treat Obama as if his legacy must be scrubbed from the history of our nation and they will not be happy until they accomplish this. That process started the moment Trump was sworn in on January 20th, 2017. And one of the most outrageous examples of this was when Trump refuse to allow the official portraits of President Obama and the First Lady from being hung in the White House. From his point of view, hanging portraits of a black man and a black women in the White House would permanently taint it and destroy the hallowed nature of the building.

OCU

#77 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-09-18 09:33 PM | Reply

Some reading for those who wanted:

The ACLU, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, And Me

An inside look at the two lawyers who shepherded women's rights to the top of the ACLU's list of priorities " and the Supreme Court.

www.aclu.org

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-18 09:41 PM | Reply

"Hope those moderates and progressives aren't so foolish as to be dissuaded by more Russian/GOP psyops in the next 50 years."

Who needs Russian/GOP psyops when they've got useless idiots like you pushing away self-proclaimed moderates and progressives? One of the lessons you should have learned from 2016 is that trying to shame voters who stayed home, voted third party, etc. backfired. Certainly those of you who engage(d) in that need to own some responsibility for the consequences of Trump getting into office.

#80 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-09-18 09:48 PM | Reply

And when McConnell is challenged as to why he denied Obama the opportunity to at least nominate and then hold hearings for a replacement for Scalia, because there was 9 months until the election, but would be willing to go ahead in this situation with less than 2 months, he will say that "It's different."

McConnell can't be gone fast enough.

When that sack of ---- dies I plan on pissing on his grave.

#81 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 09:51 PM | Reply

'he will say that "It's different."'

He's already saying that. The argument now is that it's because opposing parties controlled the Senate and Presidency last time. Oh, and some other nonsense about how the court needs to be at full capacity this time in case it needs to decide an election issue... as if that wouldn't have been a valid consideration last time.

#82 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-09-18 09:52 PM | Reply

Very few individuals have caused more harm to America.

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-18 09:53 PM | Reply

One of the lessons you should have learned from 2016 is that trying to shame voters who stayed home, voted third party, etc. backfired.

There's no such thing as a "voter who stayed home." That would be a non-voter.

#84 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump wins the election, and for myself,
it will be the equivalent of living and working
behind enemy lines until my retirement. I've already almost given up on anything but an Expat retirement anyways. For so long I've held out hope that America could pull its head out of its @$$, and I could retire to a nice fishing cabin on a lake somewhere up in Maine.
But alas, I fear the majority of the voting populous is too stupid to know right from wrong anymore...Legion are the idiots roaming the American landscape with their stars spangled shirts and Maga hats on, not even knowing that in voting for the man a 2nd time, they will be voting away their Social Security, and with it, any hopes of retirement this side of death. We shall see what the election brings, but the right seems hellbent on Cheating its way to another victory, and I see no military heroes rising to thwart them...Party over country and all that hoohah... Yay team...(tromps off in disgust)

#85 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-09-18 09:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

and I see no military heroes rising to thwart them...Party over country and all that hoohah...
#85 | POSTED BY EARTHMUSE AT 2020-09-18 09:57 PM

You're mad we won't be having a military coup? And you think the military is all Repub? Totally not unhinged at all.

#86 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 10:00 PM | Reply

'There's no such thing as a "voter who stayed home."'

What year are you posting from?

#87 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-09-18 10:10 PM | Reply

I sold my house a couple years ago and used the money to buy gold and silver. The economy always falls apart under Republicans. The next 4 months will be some of the most dangerous in Merican history. The covid is savaging Merica with a large number of Mericans willing to take protective action against it. The economy is destroyed with millions receiving SOCIALIST benefits from the Republicans while saying the Democrats will turn to Socialism. Millions will never go back to work. The second Great Depression is here and the Republicans are trying to make it to election day. The American President works for a Russian boss. Your life is about to change. There will be no new President. Did you ever think you would see the DOJ acting as the personal lawyer for Orange Jesus or the Republicans not calling witnesses in an impeachment trial while the President spits on Purple Heart veterans and remaining silent?

#88 | Posted by iloveyou at 2020-09-18 10:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

IF the GOP cheats #86 (and we both know they likely will--it's already been proven they colluded w Russia in the last election) then what they do is illegitimate, and therefore it would not a coup for the military to step in, but a preservation of the Republic, and the rule of law, in protecting the integrity of the election....but then again, you already knew that. So go ahead and fake your outrage, I care little for your theatrical play...

#89 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-09-18 10:18 PM | Reply

#89 - k.

#90 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 10:19 PM | Reply

What year are you posting from?

Any year in which words have defined meanings.

#91 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 10:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Despite the extreme hyperventilating, I doubt there will be a replacement before the election, seems like Romney, Murky, and Collins at least would all be no votes considering their positions on Trump and in Collins case her standing in Maine.

#92 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-18 10:20 PM | Reply

Interesting tangent about a possible post-election, lame duck vote for a nominee if Trump has lost the election.

If Mark Kelly wins in Arizona, he can be seated as soon as November 30 because McSally is only filling an appointed seat. At that point, the GOP advantage would fall to 52-48 meaning only 3 GOP Senators could torpedo the nominee.

#93 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 10:21 PM | Reply

"When will there be enough women on The Court?" she was asked. "When there are 9," she replied. Rest in power. Rest in peace, Justice Ginsberg. #notoriousRBG

#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If it remains vacant...and the election is close...and it goes to the Supremes it is a 4 to 4 tie...then the vote goes to? He is gonna try to fill it. Any of us in the same predicament would do the same.

#95 | Posted by visiter at 2020-09-18 10:22 PM | Reply

"Any year in which words have defined meanings."

*whoosh*

#96 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-09-18 10:28 PM | Reply

#85

If you're not willing to come back and help the situation, stay the Hell where you're at, instead of coming back when others have done the heavy lifting.

#98 | Posted by willowby at 2020-09-18 10:33 PM | Reply

Elections have consequences.
The GOP came through for their side in 2016 while many self-proclaimed progressives and moderates decided to vote third party, vote Trump, or sit at home. Those progressives and moderates are responsible for the judicial appointments Trump has made. This next Trump appointee to the Supreme Court as well.
Will any of them learn from their mistakes? Maybe. But it'll take a generation, perhaps more, to undo the harm to the judiciary. Hope those moderates and progressives aren't so foolish as to be dissuaded by more Russian/GOP psyops in the next 50 years. Not getting my hopes up though.
#72 | POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2020-09-18 09:23 PM

I got a text earlier this evening from a friend that read: "We're doomed." I wish more people have though of that 4 years ago. To my friend's credit, although she was a Bernie supporter during the primary that year, she knew Trump would be a disaster for the country and voted for Hillary in November 2016.

#100 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 10:35 PM | Reply

Rudy Giuliani has been waiting a long time for this moment.

#101 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-09-18 10:43 PM | Reply

This actually might not play in Trump's favor. There are suddenly a lot of very concerned people on the left side of the aisle. This might be enough to keep them from being complacent on election day, because they know what is at stake, whatever they think of Biden.
#70 | POSTED BY CBOB

I'm not sure, but you aren't the only one to raise this possibility:

Katy Tur @KatyTurNBC

Former prominent Republican leader texts:

If they manage to confirm someone before Nov 3, I honestly believe it will have the opposite affect on the election. I think it motivates the liberal and anti-Trump Rs even more.

Trump already has all the single-issue/judges voters.

#102 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 10:45 PM | Reply

Well said:

James Comey @Comey

"Fight for the things that you care about. But do it in a way that will lead others to join you." " RBG (May 29, 2015). A great American is gone, but her passion for justice lives on in the hearts of the countless people she inspired.

#103 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 10:51 PM | Reply

The system of making elderly Supreme Court justices hang on to the job until their party holds the White House and Senate is idiotic.

It would be better to amend the Constitution and give every president one appointment in the first year of each four-year term, replacing the justice who was appointed the longest time ago. If a justice died on the job the seat would be open until after the next presidential election.

That way voters would know every presidential election would decide who picked one justice.

#104 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 10:55 PM | Reply

If they manage to confirm someone before Nov 3...

If? donald will nominate someone tomorrow.

#105 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-18 10:57 PM | Reply

Despite the extreme hyperventilating, I doubt there will be a replacement before the election, seems like Romney, Murky, and Collins at least would all be no votes considering their positions on Trump and in Collins case her standing in Maine.

#92 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

I'm not sure if you're naive or hopeful.

In any case, I don't share your viewpoint.

McConnell is a slimy POS entirely beholden to his masters. He'll slam somebody through no matter how it gets done.

#106 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 10:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It would be better to amend the Constitution...

Do you actually think that will ever happen again?

#107 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-18 11:00 PM | Reply

From this tweet to God/dess's ears:

Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance

We should honor the life of RBG, American hero, by refusing to give in, refusing to back down, fighting for the civil rights of all people & demanding our leaders honor the the rule of law. This is our fight now. May her memory be for a blessing.

#108 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 11:01 PM | Reply

Forget the Biden Rule or the McConnell Rule, this situation is absolutely positively different: Americans have already started voting for the next President before RBG died.

The election isn't coming, the election has already started. In person voting started in 6 states today.

It will eventually be articulated by someone other than myself that voters have not only cast ballots for the President, they have also voted for Senators as well. It would be the height of both hubris and arrogance for anyone to try and ignore that the public is in the process of deciding who they want to represent them moving forward.

There is no ethical justification for usurping the voters' choice at this very moment for choices that were made 2, 4, or 6 years ago by implying that the years old ones are somehow more important than the ones being made right now and over the next 45 days.

#112 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 11:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you actually think that will ever happen again?

Yes, I think some Constitutional amendments will pass in the future. It's difficult, not impossible.

#113 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 11:17 PM | Reply

#112 Noteworthy, Tony! You are absolutely right.

#114 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 11:20 PM | Reply

I am fully prepared for this year to f*** off.

2020 has thoroughly sucked.

It will take years of Our Lives to recover from how badly this year has sucked.

F*** 2020.

#115 | Posted by Tor at 2020-09-18 11:31 PM | Reply

And I have one more prediction for this evening: RBG dying today almost certainly guarantees that the Democrats will control the Senate next term.

Here's why. Republican Senators are in a no-win situation now. McConnell has no choice but to push any nominee, but many GOP Senators - including Lindsey Graham - are on the record stating that they oppose any vote under circumstances like these, particularly based on what they said on the Senate floor in 2016 and on the record to reporters.

This is the evangelical's holy grail and they do not care about the politics or the optics. And we know Trump will crucify any GOP Senator who won't vote for his nominee. However, there are still people of both conscious and morality who believe that one's word is sacrosanct. People understand what happened with Merrick Garland in 2016 regardless of partisanship. Markers were laid and high platitudes were uttered about the will of the voters being inviolate and that was 9 months out from the election, not after the actual voting has already started.

Not every potential Republican voter is as unethical and power-mad as the party's current figureheads. I really don't see how the GOP Senators thread this needle. They're either going to alienate their base voters or alienate the majority of the electorate who may care about ethics and norms. Either way, this will likely help Democratic challengers at the ballot box and hopefully put Mitch McConnell back into minority status for the rest of his public career.

#116 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-18 11:31 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

I didn't say it at first so I'll say it now, RIP RGB.

The US couldn't have suffered a greater loss at a more crucial time.

#117 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 11:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#116 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

It doesn't matter.

The most likely option, IMO, is that they seat somebody before the election. The GOP's plan is to rule by judicial fiat and they won't lose this opportunity.

But lets say a few senators hold out and refuse out of fear of losing the election. In that case, we're still ------. They'll ram through a nominee after the election once they're no longer afraid of losing their seat and bank on the fact that they have six years for people to forget.

And if they still lose, well they've done the master donor class' bidding and will be rewarded with a lucrative lobbying or industry job.

There's no way SCOTUS isn't split decision proof any way you slice it.

America is ------.

#118 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 11:44 PM | Reply

There's no way SCOTUS isn't split decision proofby the beginning of the next Congress any way you slice it.

Corrected.

#119 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-18 11:46 PM | Reply

It's not a given that McConnell will have the votes to appoint a justice in a lame-duck session ahead of a Democratic president and Senate in 2021.

But if he gets the votes and does it, that will add an avalanche of momentum to the proposal that Democrats expand the court in response. How would McConnell's power grab look if it led to a 13-member Supreme Court with four Biden appointments?

Yes that sounds crazy but so does a lame-duck Senate and lame-duck president ramming through a justice.

#121 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-18 11:51 PM | Reply

"I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."

twitter.com

#122 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-18 11:57 PM | Reply

Would someone explain to me why SCOTUS has to have 9 members by the election in 2020 when it didn't in 2016?

What's different now from then. Russia is interfering in our election: check. Donald Trump is screaming and hollering refusing to pre-accept the election results if he were to lose: check. Trump is claiming up and down that the election is rigged and illegitimate if he doesn't like the results: check.

Those things didn't cause Republicans to allow a vote 9 months before the election, but they claim we've got to have one now even after thousands of votes have already been cast for President and US Senators?

'Splain it to me Lucy, cause I'm not getting it.

#123 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-19 12:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes that sounds crazy but so does a lame-duck Senate and president ramming through a justice.

#121 | POSTED BY RCADE

Why? Nothing about the Trump/McConnell tenure has been normal. I've stopped expecting political norms or expectations to apply because you'll get burned every time with these evil sack so of ----.

Think long game here. Lets say your scenario plays out.

Can you image redder meat for a 2024 election? Trump has already set up this election to be a win for him or a victim complex for his mouth breathing followers. If Biden wins AND takes away their SCOTUS majority? You can kiss 2024 good bye and America along with it.

If Trump doesn't win we have at least four and at most eight years to walk this country back from the ledge (IMHO). Anything radical in that time, like expanding the SCOTUS size, will kill that chance.

#125 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:02 AM | Reply

There is nothing to get. All they care about is power. All their supporters care about is power.

#126 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 12:04 AM | Reply

What keeps Mitch McConnell from pushing a SCOTUS nominee vote between November 4th 2020 and January 20th 2021?

Why is the election the cut off?

Even the Senator from Alaska is saying "I won't vote for a SCOTUS nominee prior to the election." Well, great, but that doesn't keep you from voting for a SCOTUS nominee on November 4th? Or any date after that prior to the January 20th 2021 (potential) hand off?

#127 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:05 AM | Reply

Sounds about right:

Our friend Pamela just told us that "According to Jewish tradition, a person who dies on Rosh Hashanah, which began tonight, is a tzaddik, a person of great righteousness." We found that very comforting. So strange to be eating these apples and honey with this sadness.

twitter.com

#128 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-19 12:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Can you image redder meat for a 2024 election?

What makes you think a 2024 election will be winnable if Democrats allow this? The court's already attacking voting rights and allowing voter suppression.

#129 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 12:06 AM | Reply

McConnell has no choice but to push any nominee, but many GOP Senators - including Lindsey Graham - are on the record stating that they oppose any vote under circumstances like these, particularly based on what they said on the Senate floor in 2016 and on the record to reporters.
#116 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

WTF? Tony, I know you're not that naive:

Graham on potential Supreme Court vacancy: 'This would be a different circumstance' than Merrick Garland
thehill.com

#130 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That woman was carrying our democracy on her shoulders. This election is our chance to prove she did not work in vain.

#131 | Posted by SLBronkowitz at 2020-09-19 12:13 AM | Reply

I called it here.

And I said she would be replaced by a Trump appointee.

At least 1/2, and maybe batting 1000!

#132 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2020-09-19 12:14 AM | Reply

WTF? Tony, I know you're not that naive:

Naw, but give 'em credit for moving the goalposts so quickly.

But they still haven't had to answer to why they'd try to seat a justice after the voting has already started. That just doesn't sound right to anyone but the most hardcore partisan.

They are who they are.

#133 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-19 12:17 AM | Reply

My Statement on the Passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Barack Obama

obama.medium.com

#134 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-19 12:20 AM | Reply

They are who they are.
#133 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Expect RBG's seat to be handed over to an unqualified goon.

It's going to happen.

#135 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:21 AM | Reply

Obama conclusion:

Four and a half years ago, when Republicans refused to hold a hearing or an up-or-down vote on Merrick Garland, they invented the principle that the Senate shouldn't fill an open seat on the Supreme Court before a new president was sworn in.

A basic principle of the law " and of everyday fairness " is that we apply rules with consistency, and not based on what's convenient or advantageous in the moment. The rule of law, the legitimacy of our courts, the fundamental workings of our democracy all depend on that basic principle. As votes are already being cast in this election, Republican Senators are now called to apply that standard. The questions before the Court now and in the coming years " with decisions that will determine whether or not our economy is fair, our society is just, women are treated equally, our planet survives, and our democracy endures " are too consequential to future generations for courts to be filled through anything less than an unimpeachable process.

#136 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-19 12:22 AM | Reply

#135 I'm optimistic we get a qualified goon.

#137 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-19 12:23 AM | Reply

#136 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Whoever wrote that for him is brilliant.

I truly wish this would have been delivered over the airwaves. Even a YouTube clip would have had immense power.

This, unfortunately, will fall to the wayside because we should expect Joe Biden to provide such leadership and inspiration.

I'll wait for Joe's input, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm afraid he's just been dealt a political deathknell.

Please, PLEASE Democrats and Independents, PROVE ME WRONG!!!

#138 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:32 AM | Reply

What keeps Mitch McConnell from pushing a SCOTUS nominee vote between November 4th 2020 and January 20th 2021?
Why is the election the cut off?
Even the Senator from Alaska is saying "I won't vote for a SCOTUS nominee prior to the election." Well, great, but that doesn't keep you from voting for a SCOTUS nominee on November 4th? Or any date after that prior to the January 20th 2021 (potential) hand off?

#127 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Entirely my point.

They've proven themselves craven enough to oppose a vote on November 2 then confirm on November 4.

For ----- sake people, stop using normal thought processes to think about the ramifications of this.

#139 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:32 AM | Reply

I'm optimistic we get a qualified goon.
#137 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Even fnkcing worse.

#140 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:34 AM | Reply

Whoever wrote that for him is brilliant.

Obama's a talented writer. I don't know why you'd think it was written for him.

#141 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 12:35 AM | Reply

For ----- sake people, stop using normal thought processes to think about the ramifications of this.
#139 | POSTED BY JPW

I've always thought I could sign your memos just as much as you could sign mine.

#142 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:36 AM | Reply

Even the Senator from Alaska is saying "I won't vote for a SCOTUS nominee prior to the election."

Murkowski was asked before RBG's death today if she'd vote for a justice before Inauguration Day. She said she would not.

#143 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 12:36 AM | Reply

What makes you think a 2024 election will be winnable if Democrats allow this? The court's already attacking voting rights and allowing voter suppression.

#129 | POSTED BY RCADE

That's McConnell's point, 2024 needs to be as done a deal as possible if they can't seal the 2020 deal.

And that is precisely the reason why I don't think he'll let this seat go.

You don't seem to realize that we're dealing with people who want an end to Government of the People and what checkmate truly means.

#144 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Obama's a talented writer. I don't know why you'd think it was written for him.
#141 | POSTED BY RCADE

Odds? He's fnkcing rich, Rogers. It's a safe assumption for anyone who is still protected by Secret Service.

#145 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:37 AM | Reply

I see civil unrest writ large. I see the unravelling of our entire system and violence coming in unpredictable ways. I fear greatly that the next six months will be worse than 1968. Maybe worse than yannyhe whole 2960z for political chaos.

#146 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 12:37 AM | Reply

You don't seem to realize that we're dealing with people who want an end to Government of the People and what checkmate truly means.
#144 | POSTED BY JPW

NW

#147 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:38 AM | Reply

Murkowski was asked before RBG's death today if she'd vote for a justice before Inauguration Day. She said she would not.

#143 | POSTED BY RCADE

How cute. You still believe them.

#148 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:38 AM | Reply

Damn phone.

#149 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 12:38 AM | Reply

Murkowski was asked before RBG's death today if she'd vote for a justice before Inauguration Day. She said she would not.
#143 | POSTED BY RCADE

I stand corrected.

Do you find that to be enough?

#150 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:38 AM | Reply

... a 13-member Supreme Court ...

If the Court were to be expanded, and I'm not yet convinced it should be, I would prefer 15 Justices. Then have the Court hear cases in five judge panels with a procedure to seek full court review. Similar to Circuit Court practice.

#151 | Posted by et_al at 2020-09-19 12:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#106

More like brain farting. I was mistakenly thinking there were 52 GOP, not 53. So yeah, even with those 3 likely defections they could ram someone through.

#152 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-09-19 12:42 AM | Reply

If the Court were to be expanded, and I'm not yet convinced it should be, I would prefer 15 Justices. Then have the Court hear cases in five judge panels with a procedure to seek full court review. Similar to Circuit Court practice.
#151 | POSTED BY ET_AL

NEWSWORTHY

Yup.

I like it.

#153 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:44 AM | Reply

How cute. You still believe them.

I didn't say I believed she would keep her word. I just said what she had said, which covered more than not voting before Election Day.

You and other people should stop acting like I just fell off the turnip truck. Of course I have doubts a Republican leader will keep their word.

#154 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 12:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

15 justices,that's a lot. Then the republicans will expand it to 25. The Sky's the limit. Court packing is addictive, once they get started who knows what they will do?

Seems real third world toilety to me.

America is really going down hill fast.

#155 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 12:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Maybe worse than yannyhe whole 2960z"

Thoughts and prayers

#156 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-19 12:50 AM | Reply

It's a safe assumption for anyone who is still protected by Secret Service.

No, it isn't. That has nothing to do with whether he does his own writing. Obama's one of the best writers of any president we've ever had, and he showed that long before he got the job.

Now that he's a retired president he has plenty of time.

You don't speak extemporaneously as well as Obama and need writers for everything.

#157 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 12:50 AM | Reply

Obama could have editors, but I see no reason to think he has writers.

#158 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-19 12:51 AM | Reply

You don't speak extemporaneously as well as Obama and need writers for everything.
#157 | POSTED BY RCADE

Fine.

He wrote it and it was fnkcing beautiful.

Now how about you address this:

Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#159 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:52 AM | Reply

I didn't say I believed she would keep her word. I just said what she had said, which covered more than not voting before Election Day.
You and other people should stop acting like I just fell off the turnip truck. Of course I have doubts a Republican leader will keep their word.

#154 | POSTED BY RCADE

I'm going to give you the same response I say to righties when they object to being called an idiot.

If you don't want to be treated like you just fell off the turnip truck, stop acting like you just fell off the turnip truck.

#160 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You and other people should stop acting like I just fell off the turnip truck. Of course I have doubts a Republican leader will keep their word.
#154 | POSTED BY RCADE

Wow.

Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#159 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

#161 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:54 AM | Reply

If you don't want to be treated like you just fell off the turnip truck, stop acting like you just fell off the turnip truck.

#160 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2020-09-19 12:53 AM | FLAG: DAMN RIGHT!

And I repeat:

Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:55 AM | Reply

Obama could have editors, but I see no reason to think he has writers.

#158 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Probably. Every great presenter bounces ideas or gives preliminary presentations to others. The best invite only the best to those practice sessions.

#163 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:56 AM | Reply

I kinda believe Murkowski...
But what if she just abstains?

#164 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-19 12:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

CNN's Toobin: Mitch McConnell and GOP Replacing RBG Would Be The Greatest Act of Hypocrisy in American Political History'

AAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahaha!

You think Republicans give a flying rats --- about hypocrisy! The Republicans have all played you for the biggest fools in political history.

Fools! All of you!!

#165 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But what if she just abstains?
#164 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

She's the Senator from fnkcing Alaska.

Doubt she's at the forefront of a movement against McConnell's demand that a SCOTUS candidate be voted on prior to (or subsequent) to the election.

We're all fnkced.

#166 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 12:59 AM | Reply

Maybe the republicans will surprise everyone and tell Mitch to pound sand on this.

Maybe they will have some sense of fair play.

Maybe enough of them anyway.

Our future as a free republic may depend on their integrity here.

That's the most frightening thing of all.

Will some brave Republicans step up for the good of all Americans and a sense of history?

Or is short term winning everything?

With chaos unleashed as a result?

#167 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 12:59 AM | Reply

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

----, if McConnell called a session 1 hour after Biden conceded the election those piles of ---- would confirm whoever was put in front of them.

#168 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 12:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Schumer: Senate must not fill Ginsburg vacancy 'until we have a new president'

So he expects the Senate to sit on a nomination for another four years?

Another fool.

#169 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:00 AM | Reply

I kinda believe Murkowski...
But what if she just abstains?

#164 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Finally, easily spotted sarcasm in the age of Trump.

#170 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 01:01 AM | Reply

The GOP senators who will decide on Ginsburg's vacancy

It's a little more complicated than you think it is. Not everyone in the GOP is as snake-like as McConnell and all the other Trump humpers.

Here's the Retort link to the story: drudge.com

#171 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-19 01:02 AM | Reply

Biden Speaks Out on Death of RBG: 'Voters Should Pick the President and the President Should Pick the Justice'

But that's EXACTLY what McConnell is saying!

WTF! SCOTUS is fnkced!

#172 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:03 AM | Reply

Maybe the republicans will surprise everyone and tell Mitch to pound sand on this.
Maybe they will have some sense of fair play.
Maybe enough of them anyway.
Our future as a free republic may depend on their integrity here.
That's the most frightening thing of all.
Will some brave Republicans step up for the good of all Americans and a sense of history?
Or is short term winning everything?
With chaos unleashed as a result?

#167 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Never forget that Nazi Germany happened via the manipulation of democratic government processes.

We're not so special as to be immune from that sort of descension and only our own complacency will allow it to happen.

#173 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 01:04 AM | Reply

Prediction of they fill the seat: Biden wins white house, dems win Senate,dump the filibuster and expand the Supreme Court.

#174 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-09-19 01:06 AM | Reply

If you don't want to be treated like you just fell off the turnip truck, stop acting like you just fell off the turnip truck.

This is dumb. Explaining what someone said does not mean you believe them. If I quote Trump it doesn't mean I believe him.

Rstybeach claimed Murkowski said, "I won't vote for a SCOTUS nominee prior to the election." I pointed out that she was asked about voting on a replacement before Inauguration Day, not Election Day.

It's an important difference, which is why I brought it up.

#175 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 01:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If I missed some context to your pots I apologize. Got an 8 week old puppy last Saturday and my sleep patterns have been...irregular.

I took your quoted posts as being wishful thinking that their statements would play out in reality.

#176 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 01:14 AM | Reply

Reichstag fire is next. Then the metamorphosis into a police state will be complete.

Lets hope the hell not. I hate where this seems to be going. Our future as a free society is hanging by a slender thread. The sick part is that it will take Republicans with honor and a sense of citizenship who put country before the "tribe", to prevent the descent into dictatorship.

Are there any real American Republicans left?

Or are they all as empty and craven as Trump?

#177 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 01:14 AM | Reply

Our future as a free society is hanging by a slender thread.

Indeed.

#178 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-19 01:23 AM | Reply

With all the teeth mashing going on in here, it's hard to think.

No one seems to realize that there are two completely different games afloat right now, and the Democrats need to win both of them.

First, there will be the rush to vote before the Election is finished on November 3rd. I really don't think there are the votes to pull this one off. There are more than 4 GOP senators who will not vote for a nominee prior to the election, and when you think about it, putting the vote off until after the election gives Collins, Gardner, McSally, and any other Republican running in a blue or purple state cover for their elections. Cramming in a nominee before Nov. 3rd guarantees that all of them and maybe a few more will lose.

Then after the election, if the Democrats really sweep into power, public pressure might truly make it impossible to usurp the voter's will after Republicans have been saying for year's that election's have consequences. And the Dems will immediately announce the results are the peoples' choice for who should chose the next nominee.

Again, there are many miles to go before any of this is even close to being done.

It really will come down to whether or not at least 4 GOP senators believe in the American experiment more than they thirst for power. But it only takes 4.

#179 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-19 01:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And if you didn't see this upthread or already knew, If Mark Kelly beats McSally, he takes his seat on November 30. So if the Dems avoid a pre-election vote and can extend the process through November, then it will only take 3 defections.

And I believe 3 defections after the GOP has lost both the White House and the Senate is a virtual lock.

#180 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-09-19 01:35 AM | Reply

And I believe 3 defections after the GOP has lost both the White House and the Senate is a virtual lock.
#180 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I'm rooting for this Country, TONY.

Which means I'm rooting for your perception.

#181 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:36 AM | Reply

Are the republicans really this craven? Mitch McConnell certainly is. But Grassley, and even some of the younger men like Graham and Romney have some loyalty beyond Trump and smash mouth politics.

I hope they will be real Americans and not stooges for a new order.

#182 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 01:43 AM | Reply

not Election Day.
It's an important difference, which is why I brought it up.
#175 | POSTED BY RCADE

JFC!

Are you not paying attention:

And I repeat:
Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-09-19 12:55 AM

And I repeat:
Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-09-19 12:55 AM

And I repeat:
Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-09-19 12:55 AM

And I repeat:
Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-09-19 12:55 AM

And I repeat:
Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-09-19 12:55 AM

And I repeat:
Lisa Murkowski says she won't vote on a justice to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg before the election: 'Fair is fair'
www.theblaze.com

#162 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-09-19 12:55 AM

#183 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:45 AM | Reply

Reminds me of my favorite Onion article.

www.theonion.com

#184 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:54 AM | Reply

Reminds me of my favorite Onion article.

Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My ----?
www.theonion.com

#185 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Shortly before the announcement that Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had died Friday, Sen. Lisa Murkowski said in an interview that if she was presented with a vacancy on the court, she would not vote to confirm a nominee before the election.
www.alaskapublic.org

#186 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:57 AM | Reply

Murkowski, prior to Ginsburg passing, said she 'would not vote' to confirm a nominee to Supreme Court before election

"I would not vote to confirm a Supreme Court nominee," she told the outlet. "We are 50 some days away from an election."
www.foxnews.com

#187 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:58 AM | Reply

Sen. Lisa Murkowski said she wouldn't vote to confirm a Supreme Court Justice until after the election
news.yahoo.com

#188 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:58 AM | Reply

In interview hours before news of Ginsburg's death, Murkowski said she wouldn't vote on a Supreme Court nominee prior to election
www.adn.com

#189 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 01:59 AM | Reply

This coming from a guy that dips his bread sticks in a chocolate malt shake.

Jesus Fnkcing Christ.

#190 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 02:01 AM | Reply

McConnell vows Trump's nominee to replace Ginsburg will get Senate vote, setting up historic fight

Washington(CNN) Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vowed on Friday that whomever President Donald Trump nominates to replace the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg will get a vote on the Senate floor, signaling a historic fight in Congress over one of the most polarizing issues in American politics.

"President Trump's nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate," McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said in a statement Friday evening that sets GOP lawmakers on a collision path with Democrats,

www.cnn.com

#191 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-19 02:22 AM | Reply

Murkowski, prior to Ginsburg passing, said she 'would not vote' to confirm a nominee to Supreme Court before election

That was then. This is now.

It's amazing what some money and political pressures can do to someone's integrity.

Let's see how long it takes her to fold.

#192 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-19 02:24 AM | Reply

So what's the fnkcing response, Democrats?

They plow through another Supreme Court Justice and you -------- sit back and allow it?

Spineless fnkcs.

Argument is now if, IF Joe Biden wins this election AND the Senate is over run with Dems, they'll flood the SCOTUS with justices, upwards of 13 or 15 total.

Bull fnkcing ----.

Get over yourselves. WTF makes anyone of you think it's convincing that this will happen? It's only because of COVID-19 that our Savior Joe Biden has any chance. Even then, all this other anti-democratic ---- going down won't keep Trumn et al. in power?

Fnkc you. Prove me wrong.

#193 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 02:26 AM | Reply

WAKE THE ---- UP PEOPLE

#194 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 02:32 AM | Reply

Can you imagine being Bernie right now? Damn. All that rable-rousing and revolution bs, all for naught. He single handily set back everything he supposedly charished for decades. All so he could go around on his little vanity tour.

I'd hate to live with that on my conscience.

RIP RBG

#195 | Posted by Jay at 2020-09-19 02:37 AM | Reply

FYI to Democrats:

Republicans are just as likely to vote in politicians holding hypocritical stances on issues as are Democrats.

Highlighting the fact that anyone in the Republican Senate are acting hypocritically will mean nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! The more you try, the more air time you extinguish into the ether of nothingness.

Take heed.

#196 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 02:37 AM | Reply

#195 | POSTED BY JAY

Fascinating.

It's truly fascinating that your overt bias compelled a thought process leading to a completely unrelated outcome.

Please. Tell me more.

#197 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-19 02:39 AM | Reply

I suppose that since the SC will have a strong conservative lean for a couple decades or more you whiny little piss-babies can feel free to bash both sides and protest vote until your little hearts are content, because now it really won't matter.

Good job.

#198 | Posted by Jay at 2020-09-19 02:59 AM | Reply

If the republicans go full hypocrite and install a right wing judge, the democrats, if they win the president and senate, should add 4 judges and make the Supreme Court best of 13

Why not?
Repubs have shown us that old standards don't matter anymore.

#199 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-09-19 04:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Good job.

Goof job working your whole life not out of need, but by desire.

Imagine being so dedicated to your beliefs in what your work can achieve during your brief time on this earth that you never stop working.

Not even stopping to go to the golf course 278 times in four years.

#200 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-19 04:19 AM | Reply

I took your quoted posts as being wishful thinking that their statements would play out in reality.

That's alright. This is a terrible moment. You picked the right time to get a puppy.

I am not optimistic at all, frankly.

#201 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 07:44 AM | Reply

Murkowski evidently has already announced that she wants the next President to choose RBG's replacement, and all it will take is maybe Mitt Romney and perhaps Susan Collins, if she can locate her conscious somewhere to keep the nominee from being seated at least until after the election

Even getting all three of them would only make it a 50-50 tie, with Pence being the tiebreaker. It's already a tall order to get Romney and Collins on board; to get a fourth Republican is not going to happen. Romney may loathe Trump but that doesn't mean he isn't interested in seeing a 6-3 conservative SC for the rest of his life. Collins talks a good game every time but votes with Trump, every time.

Trump is going to nominate someone, probably this weekend, and McConnell absolutely will have that person confirmed before the next presidential term begins. He may wait until after the November election to avoid energizing Dem voters, but he's going to do it.

#202 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 07:57 AM | Reply

McConnell, 2016:

"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president"

"The American people may well elect a President who decides to nominate Judge Garland for Senate consideration. The next president may also nominate someone very different. Either way, our view is this: Give the people a voice in the filling of this vacancy"

"Republicans are following a longstanding tradition of not filling vacancies on the supreme court in the middle of a presidential election year."

Lindsey Graham, 2016:
"If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait to the next election."

"I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."

#203 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 08:06 AM | Reply

And I don't post these quotes to suggest these men will stand by their words from such a short time ago. I post them simply to point out how utterly shameless they and every other Republican is when it comes to politics.

#204 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 08:09 AM | Reply

He (McConnell) may wait until after the November election to avoid energizing Dem voters, but he's going to do it.

#202 | POSTED BY JOE

Not sure how much more energized Democratic voters could be.

Also, pushing this until after November would be a victory of sorts. The shorter the time available for mischief the more likely something can go wrong for these Republican bastards.

#205 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-19 08:14 AM | Reply

He (McConnell) may wait until after the November election to avoid energizing Dem voters, but he's going to do it.

#202 | POSTED BY JOE

Not sure how much more energized Democratic voters could be.

Also, pushing this until after November would be a victory of sorts. The shorter the time available for mischief the more likely something can go wrong for these Republican bastards.

#206 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-19 08:16 AM | Reply

Not sure what you mean by something "going wrong."

Even if they lose in November they have 2 months to hold a vote and install Trump's next POS justice for the next few decades. They will ensure it goes off without a hitch.

#207 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 08:22 AM | Reply

There is no way in hell the "republicans" are going to let this opportunity that they have worked for for 40 years go by.
None.
Anyone expecting this "crown jewel" to be tossed aside is kidding themselves.

#208 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-19 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are we taking bets? I'll go with no net gain for Dems. There's no more enthusiasm to be had, it's already all in. Net gain for Trump, Republicans that would have sat out will now feel compelled to vote.

#209 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-09-19 10:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#209 - I'm poorer as of this morning from making more tactical campaign donations.

#210 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-19 10:34 AM | Reply

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

1h
.
@GOP
We were put in this position of power and importance to make decisions for the people who so proudly elected us, the most important of which has long been considered to be the selection of United States Supreme Court Justices. We have this obligation, without delay!

Republicans are scum.

#211 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-19 11:37 AM | Reply

Are we taking bets?
#209 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Yea. I'll make a bet.

You'd rather watch fascism sweep over America than vote for a Biden.

#212 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-19 11:44 AM | Reply

#212 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-09-19 11:44 AM | FLAG:

Somebody is angry this morning. I had already settled on Biden while the rest of you were still desperately waffling around for anybody else.

#213 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-09-19 12:11 PM | Reply

Mitch McConnell announced that there will definitely be a vote for a replacement before the election. - #63 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-09-18 09:06 PM
Good to see he's learned from his past mistakes though, right?

#214 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-09-19 12:20 PM | Reply

Even if they lose in November they have 2 months to hold a vote and install Trump's next POS justice for the next few decades. They will ensure it goes off without a hitch.

What's even better is we can use the next 4 years to get Thomas resigned and replaced with a young, Scalia-like talent.

It's really the best of both worlds, when you think about it.

#215 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-19 12:36 PM | Reply

The consequences of the horrific choice of nominating a sellout corporate dem in 2016 keep piling up.

President Sanders could have put 3 justices on the supreme court. Instead the court will be 1/3 insane trump judges.

#217 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-19 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

a young, Scalia-like talent

Lol. Trump has already had two chances to appoint a "Scalia-like talent" and has failed miserably in that regard. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are mental midgets compared to Scalia, and there's zero reason to expect him to appoint anyone other than another mentally average ideologue.

#218 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 02:18 PM | Reply

Are you voting for Biden?
Not voting?
What?

#219 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-19 02:19 PM | Reply

If Dems finally grow some balls and respond to this charade by packing the Court and adding DC and PR as states, then perhaps McConnell going back on his word is a good thing. If this is what finally gives Dems an excuse to be ruthless then so be it. I won't hold my breath though.

#220 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 02:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#220 -

11 Supreme Court Justices.
PR and DC as States, and
No filibuster in the Senate.

The Republicans can just pack it up and go home and work on getting majorities again.
I like it.

#221 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-19 02:35 PM | Reply

#221 What's funny is that even though an 11-justice court would still be a 6-5 conservative majority, with Roberts as a potential swing vote (essentially the status quo ante), Republicans would scream bloody murder if Dems ever did this.

Adding two justices should be the tamest Democratic response to this. An aggressive response would look more like a 13-justice court, DC/PR statehood, and splitting California into three states to add another four senators.

#222 | Posted by JOE at 2020-09-19 03:47 PM | Reply

CNN's Toobin: Mitch McConnell and GOP Replacing RBG Would Be The Greatest Act of Hypocrisy in American Political History'

McConnell: Hold my beer!

#223 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-19 05:14 PM | Reply

President Sanders could have put 3 justices...
#217 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Kennedy would not have retired if there had been a Dem President.

#224 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-09-19 05:25 PM | Reply

President Sanders could have put 3 justices on the supreme court.

I like Bernie but I think you're way too quick to assume he would have won the general election.

You don't know how he would have fared in a general election when everything in his long political past was dredged up in attack ads by the other side and dark-money ad groups.

If he wasn't a strong enough candidate with moderate Democrats to win the 2020 primary after leaving 2016 as the Democratic 2020 front-runner, he was going to have trouble with the moderate independents and Republican leaners in a general election.

There's also the issue of how President Sanders puts justices on the Supreme Court with a Republican Senate.

#225 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-19 07:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Been watching MSNBC all day.

I bet you have not.

#227 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-19 08:21 PM | Reply

Scalia was the most overrated "intellect" in the history of the SCOTUS. He was a mediocre hack. His idea of taking the constitution literally, like a fundamentalist with holy writ; "Originalism", was especially stupid. The constitution is a living document,Meant to be amended frequently. The framers would have been appalled by the quasi-religious framing of their work. They wanted change with the times,not a statism that evoked the inquisition, in it's denial of changing circumstances and technology.

Scalia was perhaps the dumbest justice in his certainty about the character of our living republic.

He never should have been appointed .

#228 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-19 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think it would take more than a simple majority to add more Supreme Court justices. If that's all it took, Trump and old MacDonald would be able to push a bunch onto the bench before the end of the current term.

#229 | Posted by PussyFort at 2020-09-19 10:40 PM | Reply

An ideologue to her last breath. "My most fervent wish is that I not be replaced until there is a new president". In other words, let the Executive and the Senate violate the very Constitution that I swore to defend and not nominate and/or give advice and consent as is their duty. Trample on that document where I have tread so many times and carve out one more exception for a class of one this time.

It wasn't "granddaughter I love you". It wasn't "I'm coming to you Marty". It was a political wish about the seat she merely occupied but viewed somehow as hers.

Better she should quote Khan: "From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee." It's more poetic.

Better yet would have been: "Build a time machine and go back to 2015 and tell me to resign in 44's penultimate year." Sorry RGB. That's not how time works, and I do not need a Terminator conundrum, especially in 2020.

So she was a decent, though ideological jurist. The stories say she had a good sense of humor. There are some that put a lot of pressure on that frail 87 year old 85 pound woman to carry the weight of liberalism. I hope she rests peacefully now that the burden has been lifted.

#230 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-09-20 07:29 AM | Reply

If that's all it took, Trump and old MacDonald would be able to push a bunch onto the bench before the end of the current term.

It requires legislation, so the Democratic House could stop it. But there's nothing in the Constitution that prevents Congress from expanding the size of the Supreme Court. It was increased from seven to nine by legislation in 1869.

#231 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-20 08:12 AM | Reply

Nuke Gently: It's asinine to assume that she didn't make personal remarks to her family when she was dying.

Her last public request didn't ask the Senate not to advise and consent. It asked that it wait until after an election that is already taking place, which given the standard established four years earlier by the party that still controls the Senate, is not an exception of one. The GOP-controlled Senate made a big show of how the public should decide who picks the next justice when there's an election imminent. She was merely asking that they live up to their word.

#232 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-20 08:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

RCADE: The political statement is being reported as her last words. Are you saying the media is lying to me?

The request was also that she not be replaced until there is a "new president". So when Biden loses in November, we have to wait until Trump dies or is termed out of office to fill the Supreme Court? She made the calculus that HRC would win in 2016, so the court needs to go on hold until her next crappy prediction does or does not occur? I believe that's more in line with the Khan quote.

The irony of holding McConnell to words the same people decried in 2016, but not so loudly because of smug over-confidence, is not lost on me. This is about the only time liberals have believed in cocaine Mitch and 4 years after the fact. That he has ignored the plaintive mewling of liberals until now and he will turn it around on the brink of victory is not only disingenuous, it's insane. Maybe if you asked nice and invited him to barbecue?

#233 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-09-20 08:43 AM | Reply

The request was also that she not be replaced until there is a "new president". So when Biden loses in November, we have to wait until Trump dies or is termed out of office to fill the Supreme Court?

You're being ridiculous.

This is about the only time liberals have believed in cocaine Mitch and 4 years after the fact.

Nobody believes him. But he and the other GOP senators made a big show of how their decision to not even give Garland a hearing was a rule that would guide the Senate now and in the future. Graham was even grandstanding on this point two years ago and challenged the public to hold him accountable that he wouldn't support appointing a justice after the primaries begin even under a Republican president. He's already weaseled out of that.

So now we're holding them accountable. If a politician makes a giant production about how they will do something and they break their word, there is usually a price to be paid. One of the reasons Clinton was in the White House and able to appoint RBG was because Bush 41 said "read my lips: no new taxes" and he broke that promise. He handed the other side a rhetorical hammer to bonk him with and they used it.

#234 | Posted by rcade at 2020-09-20 10:01 AM | Reply

#210 - Apparently I'm not the only one:

The progressive-backed ActBlue " a donation-processing site that helps Democratic candidates, committees and organizations raise money " reported nearly $95 million raised between the time Ginsburg's death was announced and Sunday morning Eastern time on.

www.usatoday.com

#235 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-20 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee." It's more poetic.

It's also from Moby Dick.

#236 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-09-20 11:33 AM | Reply

#236
Nicely done.

#237 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-20 12:00 PM | Reply

He handed the other side a rhetorical hammer to bonk him with and they used it.

#234 | POSTED BY RCADE

Bludgeon the crap out of them relentlessly. They have sold their souls to the devil himself so they don't care but maybe their constituents still do.

#238 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-20 12:00 PM | Reply

"Scalia was the most overrated "intellect" in the history of the SCOTUS. "

Efete, we don't always agree but on that we definitely do. To call one's self an originalist and the made decisions that the authors of the Constitution would never have considered was ridiculous And Scalia did that all the time. Our revolution was a reaction to corporate power but Scalia, the "originalist', regularly ignored that and approved Citizens United. He was a fake and a fraud as is his idiot friend Clarence Thomas. Both regularly ignored the normal seperation of Justices from those who were to be judicated.

#239 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-20 12:15 PM | Reply

In other words, let the Executive and the Senate violate the very Constitution that I swore to defend and not nominate and/or give advice and consent as is their duty. Trample on that document where I have tread so many times and carve out one more exception for a class of one this time.
#230 | Posted by Nuke_Gently

Problem with being a trump supporter is you can no longer pretend you care about the constitution.

#240 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-20 06:51 PM | Reply

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