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Thursday, September 24, 2020

Experts who track extremist ideologies and movements as well as domestic terrorism in the U.S. say QAnon is a unique and unpredictable new strain of extremism in America's far-right political landscape.

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It's spread to Deutschland as well: www.spiegel.de

#1 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-24 08:54 AM | Reply

There's plenty of people in this country for whom Red Dawn fantasies are regular themes in their spank bank. Since that never actually materialized they were forced to recruit their left-of-center fellow Americans to play the part of the Soviets. Since that never actually materialized they were forced to exaggerate the behavior and the threat those left-of-center posed to the "American" way of life in order to perpetuate their mastubatory dreams. Prime these people with decades of right wing propaganda, give them a charismatic leader, and throw in a little conspiracy fiction and it's only a matter of time before simply fantasizing about it is not sufficient and we found ourselves where we are now.

#2 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-09-24 09:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Trumpers were already caught plotting violence for a number of upcoming protests. This includes getting guns and ammo.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-09-24 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But... but... antifa!"

People who more concerned about a handful of anti-Fascists than they are about much larger groups of actual Fascists who have a friend in the WH have already shown their true colors.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-24 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

God this site is woke.

#5 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-24 06:53 PM | Reply

God this site is woke.

#5 | Posted by HeliumRat

It's not our fault that all the trump fans ran away because they lacked the intellectual abilities to defend their position.

But you're welcome to try. This thread is about the growth of Qanon. Want to take a stab at defending the theory that democrats drink the blood of babies?

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-24 07:12 PM | Reply

#6 Stop drinking the blood of babies already. Qanon is no different than Russiagate, which has sparked a wave of left-wing violence.

And how about CRT? How's that 120 days of rioting in Portland getting it's message across?

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-24 07:26 PM | Reply

"How's that 120 days of rioting in Portland getting it's message across?"

You tell us.
What's the message you're getting in St. Petersburg?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-24 07:28 PM | Reply

#6 Stop drinking the blood of babies already. Qanon is no different than Russiagate, which has sparked a wave of left-wing violence.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat

You really can back a whole lot of lies into a short post.

Really? What WAVE of left wing violence did russiagate spark? I'd love to see the links to the breitbart stories they fed you about it.

And you just drew a comparison between cooties and AIDS. One of them is a serious disease and one of them is imaginary childish fantasy. Russiagate was a real thing. The REPUBLICAN senate investigation concluded the same. People are in jail for it as we speak. And trump still wont say anything about putin paying for the heads of US soldiers. Neither will you.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-24 07:34 PM | Reply

#9 My God. Nobody is in Jail for Russiagate, and the Pentagon said their was no contract money and the NYT retracted. Jesus H. Christ.

#10 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-24 07:53 PM | Reply

#9 My God. Nobody is in Jail for Russiagate, and the Pentagon said their was no contract money and the NYT retracted. Jesus H. Christ.

#10 | Posted by HeliumRat

No contract money? So that means trump wasn't aware and welcoming to putin's help?

And if you want to look into the money, you should ask yourself why trump's DOJ refused to investigate trump's financial ties to putin.

Still waiting on the list of left wing violence resulting from russiagate...

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-24 08:03 PM | Reply

"Nobody is in Jail for Russiagate"

Why not?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-24 08:06 PM | Reply

#11 See the list of r-wing violence caused by Qanon.

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-24 08:08 PM | Reply

Newsweek said Trumps pick for SCOTUS was a cultist then retracted - wrong religon.

#14 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-24 08:09 PM | Reply

Hrat is still way far up that river in Egypt...aka Trump's butt.

In a bombshell report, the GOP-led Senate Select Committee on Intelligence ... Republicans incriminate Trump, decimate his 'Russia hoax' narrative

thehill.com

The report describes hundreds of actions by Trump, his campaign, and his associates in the run-up to the 2016 election that involve some degree of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity.

www.lawfareblog.com

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-24 08:24 PM | Reply

#11 See the list of r-wing violence caused by Qanon.

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat

I never claimed there was any.

Although you could argue that they helped elect trump and he's getting hundreds of thousands of americans killed with his sociopathic idiocy. That's kind of violent.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-24 08:58 PM | Reply

And there was your fellow cult member who shot up a pizza parlor because you morons are dumb enough to believe a conspiracy about hillary clinton drinking aborted baby blood or whatever.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-24 09:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nobody is in Jail for Russiagate"

Why not?

#12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The Criminal Negligence and cowardice of Republican Senators.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 09:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"See the list of r-wing violence caused by Qanon."

Oh we could show you the "list" but it's a very secret list. It a tremendous list. Incredible people say. Everyone was amazed when they saw the list. But it is well hidden list and as I said and you know very well it's secret. So then we would obviously have to kill you and I am sure that would ruin your day.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 09:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

So...I don't see much right wing violence. Clan Bundy appears to have been relatively peaceful when they took over the Malheur Wildlife Reserve.

On the other hand, I see left wing violence occurring nightly across the US. Is that a function of Qanon as well?

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-09-25 01:38 PM | Reply

On the other hand, I see left wing violence occurring nightly across the US. Is that a function of Qanon as well?

#20 | Posted by madbomber

Actually yes.

www.washingtonpost.com

As Trump warns of leftist violence, a dangerous threat emerges from the right-wing boogaloo movement

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-25 01:50 PM | Reply

- I don't see much right wing violence.

"The Organizational Dynamics
of FarRight Hate Groups in the
United States: Comparing
Violent to
NonViolent Organizations

There is empirical and anecdotal evidence that far-right hate groups pose a significant threat to public safety. Far-right extremists commit many violent attacks, and some scholars conclude that far-right extremists, especially groups
motivated by religious ideology, are strong candidates to commit future acts using weapons of mass destruction (Gurr &
Cole, 2002; Tucker, 2001).

Research analyzing data from the Extremist Crime Database has shown that active members
of far-right extremist groups have been involved in over 330 homicide incidents in the last 20 years (Freilich, Chermak,
Belli, Grunewald & Parkin; Gruenewald, 2011).

Similarly, a national survey of State law enforcement agencies concluded
that there was significant concern about the activities of far-right extremist groups, and that more states reported the
presence of far-right militia groups (92%), neo-Nazis (89%), and racist skinheads (89%) in their jurisdictions than Jihadi
extremist groups (65%) (Freilich, Chermak & Simone, 2009).

www.dhs.gov

"There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know." - 1546, John Heywood

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-25 01:58 PM | Reply

" On the other hand, I see left wing violence occurring nightly across the US."

That may be what the provocateurs want you to believe.

A good friend went to nightly BLM protests in my city. He's told of multiple instances of folks not in their group, suddenly showing up, throwing say, a bottle of water, then running away. He also noted several of them were sporting Hawaiian shirts.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-25 02:53 PM | Reply

"So...I don't see much right wing violence."

Not nearly as much as, say, domestic violence...

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-25 02:56 PM | Reply

"On the other hand, I see left wing violence occurring nightly across the US."

What are you talking about?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-25 02:56 PM | Reply

I see left wing violence occurring nightly across the US.
#20 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

From Germany you do?

Keeping an eye on America from your porch?

You're such a dumb troll.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-25 03:03 PM | Reply

"Keeping an eye on America from your porch?"

From my gym, actually.

I watch KATU when I work out in the morning.

With the exception of the period of time when Portland was threatened by forest fires, the city was threatened by left-wing activists starting fires in the city. And then I go to work and turn on BBC, where they talk about the left wing activists engaging in violent activities in other cities across the country.

And I don't care who it is that's out there with the intent to cause trouble. None of it is OK.

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-09-25 04:59 PM | Reply

"A good friend went to nightly BLM protests in my city."

Was your good friend throwing IEDs at cops?

#28 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-09-25 05:01 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by Corky

Please don't post from lawfareblog. That's a Neocon funded group dedicated to the MIC and more war. Look into who created it, who sits on its board, and why.

#29 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 05:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Please don't post from lawfareblog. That's a Neocon funded group dedicated to the MIC and more war. Look into who created it, who sits on its board, and why.

#29 | Posted by HeliumRat

If you watch fox news, you should do the same research.

Hearing trump supporters tell people to be skeptical about where they get their news is hilarious.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-25 06:00 PM | Reply

With the exception of the period of time when Portland was threatened by forest fires, the city was threatened by left-wing activists starting fires in the city. And then I go to work and turn on BBC, where they talk about the left wing activists engaging in violent activities in other cities across the country.

And I don't care who it is that's out there with the intent to cause trouble. None of it is OK.

#27 | Posted by madbomber

Unless it's your cult members starting violence to scare people into voting for your cult leader right?

https://medium.com/@kevinjshay44/right-wing-provocateurs-likely-inflaming-protest-violence-bcf1c48e1d40
theintercept.com
www.washingtonpost.com
www.washingtonpost.com

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-25 06:02 PM | Reply

Unless it's your cult members starting violence to scare people into voting for your cult leader right?

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

You do know how insane that sounds, right? You are calling half of Americans cultists. And why?

#32 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 06:13 PM | Reply

#31 And stop eating babies.

#33 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 06:14 PM | Reply

"You are calling half of Americans cultists."

More like 15%.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-25 06:18 PM | Reply

#34 I think it's about 8% for the woke, last I heard on 'tube. And they deserve each other.

The woke just cry and whine harder.

#35 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 06:25 PM | Reply

You do know how insane that sounds, right? You are calling half of Americans cultists. And why?

#32 | Posted by HeliumRat

It's not half, but trump's base fits nearly every part of the definition of a cult, so they're a cult.

www.csj.org

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-25 06:35 PM | Reply

#36 Ah, your a fruitcake. It's not everybody else dude, it's just you.

#37 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 06:37 PM | Reply

*you're

#38 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 06:40 PM | Reply

#36 Ah, your a fruitcake. It's not everybody else dude, it's just you.

#37 | Posted by HeliumRat

You can't refute the evidence so you resort to name calling. You're in a cult, by the definition of a cult. You don't care about the country. You're not a patriot. You care about the cult's power and the cult leader. You believe what he says no matter how much of a lie it is. You hate who he tells you to hate. You think what he tells you to think. No matter how many time he's proven wrong.

A lifetime of feeling inferior to decent people made you an easy mark for a con man like trump. All he had to do was show that superior people are upset by him, and you're dumb enough to think that superior people being upset must be good for inferior people like yourself. You're too stupid to see how wrong you are.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-25 07:03 PM | Reply

#39 My God. And I don't even really like Trump. You people are completely insane. All I have to do is dissent and I'm a cultist.

#40 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-09-25 11:07 PM | Reply

#39 My God. And I don't even really like Trump. You people are completely insane. All I have to do is dissent and I'm a cultist.

#40 | Posted by HeliumRat

"I'm not a fascist, I just vote for fascists."

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-26 06:59 PM | Reply

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