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Thursday, September 24, 2020

Trump refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election, asserting that if he doesn't win, it will be because of fraudulent mail-in voting. There is no evidence of widespread fraud in voting by mail.

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This POS isn't going away.

Key question is whether there is somebody willing to drag his tubby ass out of the WH when they have to.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-23 07:59 PM | Reply

Key question is whether there is somebody willing to drag his tubby ass out of the WH when they have to.

If he loses the election?

There will be millions of Americans eager to do so.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-23 08:02 PM | Reply

There will be millions of Americans eager to do so.

"Eager" and "Capable" are to different things.

#3 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-23 08:07 PM | Reply

and two different things, as well

#4 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-23 08:11 PM | Reply

"Eager" and "Capable" are to different things.

#3 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

Yeah he's gotta weight what, 290-300 pounds?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-23 08:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Eager" and "Capable" are to different things.
#3 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

What would be preventing them from doing so?

Do you believe the military would intervene on his behalf?

Militant Trump supporters will prevent Biden from becoming the president?

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-23 08:15 PM | Reply

Yeah he's gotta weight what, 290-300 pounds?
#5 | POSTED BY JPW

Just need a forklift. Or a dolly.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-23 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We should be so lucky as to see Trumpy dragged out of the White House in irons.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-23 08:16 PM | Reply

"Elected officials in the U.S. have also refused to step down, albeit from lower offices than the presidency. In 1874, a Texas governor locked himself in the basement of the state capitol building after losing his reelection bid.

The saga began when Republican Governor Edmund J. Davis lost the 1873 election by a resounding 2-to-1 ratio to his Democratic challenger, Richard Coke, and claimed that the election had been tainted with fraud and intimidation. A court case made its way to the state's supreme court.

All three justices, each of whom had been appointed by the incumbent Davis, ruled that the election was unconstitutional and invalid.

Democrats called upon the public to disregard the court's decision, and proceeded with plans for Coke's inauguration.

On January 15, 1874, Coke arrived at the state capitol with a sheriff's posse, and was sworn in to office while Davis barricaded himself downstairs with state troopers. The next day, Davis requested federal troops from President Ulysses S. Grant. Grant refused, and Davis finally stepped down three days later."

;)

"If Trump were inclined to overstay his term, the levers of power work in favor of removal.

Because the president immediately and automatically loses his constitutional authority upon expiration of his term or after removal through impeachment, he would lack the power to direct the U.S. Secret Service or other federal agents to protect him.

He would likewise lose his power, as the commander in chief of the armed forces, to order a military response to defend him. In fact, the newly minted president would possess those presidential powers.

If necessary, the successor could direct federal agents to forcibly remove Trump from the White House. Now a private citizen, Trump would no longer be immune from criminal prosecution, and could be arrested and charged with trespassing in the White House.

While even former presidents enjoy Secret Service protection, agents presumably would not follow an illegal order to protect one from removal from office."

www.theatlantic.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2020-09-23 08:17 PM | Reply

@#9

Interesting article, but it seems to rely rather heavily upon the fact that there has been a winner in the election.

If Pres Trump continues to destroy the election process, as appears to be his goal, there may not be a winner.

Another aspect, if the Republicans are such cowards that they are afraid of doing anything to assure a legitimate election, why should one presume that Republicans will do anything like remove him from office after impeachment?


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-23 08:54 PM | Reply

Another thing that WH has touted is declaring a "winner" election night.......meaning Trump may attempt to say he's the winner (if "winning") at that particular point.

We all know votes will probably need to be counted in the following days.

What's that saying, possession is 9/10 of the law? Trump will maintain he's the winner on election night and not budge off that.

#11 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-09-23 09:32 PM | Reply

Where's the Praetorian Guard when we need them?

Will someone rid us of this man?

#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-23 10:31 PM | Reply

Other nations can count votes 3 hours after polls close. Why is the US so retarded?

#13 | Posted by bored at 2020-09-24 02:51 AM | Reply

The inauguration can go forward for a new President even with Trump refusing to leave the WH and the power of the Presidency is then immediately transferred whether Trump likes it or not. Then the new President could order the Secret Service to drag his ass out and possibly arrest him.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-24 08:48 AM | Reply

He belongs in prison.

#15 | Posted by bat4255 at 2020-09-24 08:58 AM | Reply

Jesus, I wish people would stop with the fantasies about ------- being dragged from the white house. That is NOT going to happen.

Presidents "win" through the number of electoral votes AND the concession of the loser. Can anyone honestly say ------- will concede? Under any circumstances?

So, at best, we are left with a contested election. Which is WHY the republicans and ------- are laying the groundwater for fraudulent voting claims.

The scenarios for ------- to claim victory are a greater possibility the longer the vote counting takes.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:01 AM | Reply

Other nations can count votes 3 hours after polls close. Why is the US so retarded?

#13 | POSTED BY BORED AT 2020-09-24 02:51 AM |

Because, republicans.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Then the new President could order the Secret Service to drag his ass out and possibly arrest him.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-24 08:48 AM | Reply

If it comes down to that, then Trump has been arrested. He possibly won't be charged with anything, but for as long as he's being dragged he's arrested.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 09:08 AM | Reply

Truth, do you not remember making the same accusations and predictions about GWB?

Maybe not you personally but you certainly saw them here.

He wasn't going to leave the white house. He was going to declare martial law or execute some legal maneuver which allowed him to remain in office.

Maybe that's why people aren't taking rhetoric from a professional windbag very seriously.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 09:08 AM | Reply

My wife thinks that there are enough good Americans left to prevent Trump from becoming dictator.

Maybe. But Trump is going to put a legal fig leaf on the coup and dare physical force to be used against him to dethrone him.

Plus, we have so many Americans who really aren't so good, are they? Don't care to be good, don't want to be good; think only suckers try to be good. Think morality is a plot to take something from them.

These people are human excrement.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 09:12 AM | Reply

Maybe that's why people aren't taking rhetoric from a professional windbag very seriously.

#19 | Posted by eberly at

I wonder what it is about sociopaths that confuses you, EBERLY? You don't think such a thing exists? You don't think that Trump is one? You really don't?

That Donald Trump is even TALKING this way demonstrates his criminality and complete lack of patriotism.

He deserves prison for his words alone. He's hurt, and is hurting, too many people by language and by deed.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

so?

He's an old man... the best the cl0wns can come up with.

Once we rid ourselves of the orange dumb@$$ we move on to the Paul and Cruz and anything else resembling a ---------- capitalist.

They deserve a sound crushing.

#22 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-09-24 09:17 AM | Reply

Eb, no, I don't remember that at all; and Dubya would have been looking at a 3rd term.

-------- actions are unprecedented. And it is incredibly nave to think he will graciously step aside. It ain't gonna happen. It is not in his DNA. He has never been gracious about anything.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I wonder what it is about sociopaths that confuses you, EBERLY?"

You're lecturing someone else about how to spot a sociopath, Zed?

Has there been a single republican in the last 40 years who has either occupied or even sought federal office you haven't accused of being a sociopath?

This includes the presidency, the supreme court, etc.....

I don't think I'm qualified to diagnose someone I've never met nor had any direct dialogue with a sociopath.

We all know that's never stopped you.....but ask yourself, Zed....were you ever right with your 2,000 mile away diagnoses of these people?

GWB, Romney, etc?

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 09:30 AM | Reply

-Eb, no, I don't remember that at all

well then, nevermind.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 09:32 AM | Reply

Has there been a single republican in the last 40 years who has either occupied or even sought federal office you haven't accused of being a sociopath?

Posted by eberly

96% of them?

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 09:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe that's why people aren't taking rhetoric from a professional windbag very seriously.
#19 | POSTED BY EBERLY AL

Maybe you and your fellow deplorables aren't taking Trumpy seriously.

The rest of the world is.

The markets will probably crash today after it sinks on what Trumpy is saying.

The markets need stability. Stability is obviously not going to happen.

BTW- I don't remember Bush threatening the stability of our elections by threatening to ignore the will of people and "get rid of the ballots".

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 09:32 AM | Reply

For me, mocking the disabled is pretty clear evidence of sociopathy.

So, believe your own eyes:

www.youtube.com

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:32 AM | Reply

I've never met nor had any direct dialogue with a sociopath.

#24 | Posted by eberly

Not true.

But that you think that makes me understand your Pollyanna.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 09:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Has there been a single republican in the last 40 years who has either occupied or even sought federal office you haven't accused of being a sociopath?"

No but there are varying degrees of sociopathy. Trump is by far the worst. Possibly H.W. Buas not as seriously mentally ill but he was mentally ill. When he went to war with Iraq for no good reason he demonstrated that. When he went along with Reagan's "Voo Doo Economics" he demonstrated that.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-24 09:34 AM | Reply

"I've never met nor had any direct dialogue with a sociopath."

How would you know? Do you think it is tattooed on their forehead?

#31 | Posted by danni at 2020-09-24 09:35 AM | Reply

#24 | Posted by eberly

I want EBERLY to explain Donald Trump. Because the man begs an explanation. Here's the challenge: I think whatever theory you put forward is going to be an argument for sociopathy.

Prove me wrong.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 09:36 AM | Reply

I don't think I'm qualified to diagnose someone I've never met nor had any direct dialogue with a sociopath.

4% of the population are sociopaths, so yes, you have.

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:36 AM | Reply

Re: #33

Only 4%?

#34 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-24 09:39 AM | Reply

For those who don't know:

A sociopath is a term used to describe someone who has antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD can't understand others' feelings.

People with ASPD may also use "mind games" to control friends, family members, co-workers, and even strangers. They may also be perceived as charismatic or charming.

To receive a diagnosis of ASPD, someone must be older than 18. Their behaviors must show a pattern of at least three of the following seven traits:

Doesn't respect social norms or laws. They consistently break laws or overstep social boundaries.
Lies, deceives others, uses false identities or nicknames, and uses others for personal gain.
Doesn't make any long-term plans. They also often behave without thinking of consequences.
Shows aggressive or aggravated behavior. They consistently get into fights or physically harm others.
Doesn't consider their own safety or the safety of others.
Doesn't follow up on personal or professional responsibilities. This can include repeatedly being late to work or not paying bills on time.
Doesn't feel guilt or remorse for having harmed or mistreated others.

Source: www.healthline.com

Remind you of anyone?

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:41 AM | Reply

@34
psychologia.co

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very " we'll have a very peaceful, there won't be a transfer, frankly. There'll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control. You know it. And you know who knows it better than anybody else? The Democrats know it better than anybody else."

That incoherent rambling is the words of the US President. How it is that anyone in their right mind feels that a person with such an attitude towards democracy, and an inability to clearly communicate, is fit to serve in that office is beyond me.

#37 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-09-24 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The question is, really, whether ------- is a sociopath or a psychopath. The former being environmental and upbringing, the latter-genetic. ------- does present a case that he is a psychopath. His education and history of fraud would imply he is a psycho, while his impulsiveness and erratic behavior would indicate he is a sociopath.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 09:47 AM | Reply

"I want EBERLY to explain Donald Trump. "

I don't want anyone to "explain" trump to me. I am sick of hearing about this sick man. Especially a mealy mouthed Beverly

I just want trumpy gone so we can get on with our lives and defeat the corona virus by testing and proper social distancing and stop making the virus political. And then maybe we could properly rely on the sciences like we should be doing and should have been doing all along so we can get back some semblance of normalcy in our country.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm honestly not trying to troll or be an -------, but you people have got to get a grip.

Listen you yourselves. You've cocooned yourselves in a little ideological echo chamber for four years now and have whipped yourselves into an unhinged frenzy.

What makes this apoplectic --------- so entertaining is that it was you people, not Trump, that basically executed an attempted coup on a duly elected President. This made up "Russia" -------- that went on for 3 years, the fabricate rape charge against Kavanaugh, the fake ass impeachment, etc.

People aren't stupid. They see exactly what has gone on the last 4 years. They know exactly what was going on before the Plandemic was weaponized. I think (85% confident) they're going to send Trump back to the White House for another 4 years.

Then what are you going to do?

#40 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-24 10:20 AM | Reply

Poor Mao

#41 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-24 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's a load of horsehit from Mao. Pretty damn funny how far up Earth II's ass he has his head.

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-24 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This made up "Russia" -------- that went on for 3 years

40 | Posted by Mao_Content

Trump remains guilty as charged. Furthermore, he continues to do the same old sh--.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 10:39 AM | Reply

Bottom line.....

'To protect America against all enemies, foreign or domestic'.......

#44 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-09-24 10:40 AM | Reply

Listen you yourselves. You've cocooned yourselves in a little ideological echo chamber for four years now and...

LOL right after this claim (that cocoon is called reality) he goes on to spout nothing but demonstrably untrue right wing talking points.

People aren't stupid.

Oh, enough of them very much so are.

As evidence I'll point to the fact that Trump even has a chance at a second term.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-24 10:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Plandemic

40 | Posted by Mao_Content

Wow, MAO.

I'll put you down for the "continuation", obviously by any means necessary.

#46 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 10:42 AM | Reply

Then what are you going to do?

#40 | Posted by Mao_Content at

What would you do about a dictator?

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 10:43 AM | Reply

This made up "Russia" -------- that went on for 3 years

40 | Posted by Mao_Content

Yup. PT Barnum was so right.

The evidence was put out right in front of you and they even are still doing it and you still deny it ever happened.

What a sucker. What an idiot.

I"f we could just get rid of the ballots... there would be no transition. "

Could not be any clearer.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The evidence was put out right in front of you and they even are still doing it and you still deny it ever happened.

Hell, the Repubs on the Senate Intelligence committee put out a five volume report on Russian meddling and the interactions and cooperation between Trump campaign and transition team members.

But they'll believe Fox Noise no matter what because you know, they're in an echo chamber or anything.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-24 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Republicans condemn Trump's refusal to commit to peaceful transfer of power
www.axios.com

...A number of prominent Republican lawmakers addressed President Trump's refusal on Wednesday to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses November's presidential election....

Worth noting: None of the statements issued so far directly mention Trump by name " or why they're speaking out on the issue now....


List of Republicans is in the article.

#50 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-24 10:59 AM | Reply

-Maybe you and your fellow deplorables....

---- off, punk.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:00 AM | Reply

"I want EBERLY to explain Donald Trump."

quit lying. You only want to prove to me that you have Trump figured out.

Just like you have diagnosed and figured out every republican in federal office for your entire life.

I do not like Trump. Never have, including way back in time.

I don't need your diagnoses of his sociopathy to help me understand him, Zed.

My only reason for posting on this issue was to reiterate that you cannot predict his behavior.

Neither can morons like Donnerboy.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:03 AM | Reply

Neither can morons like Donnerboy.

#52 | POSTED BY EBERLY

It's easy to predict the behavior of egotistical narcissists like Trumpy.

It's also easy to predict the reactions of his sycophants, enablers and suck ups like you.

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

---- off, punk.

#51 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You first, mealy mouthed fool.

#54 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 11:09 AM | Reply

"I don't think I'm qualified to diagnose someone I've never met nor had any direct dialogue with a sociopath."

I wrote the above incorrectly. My apologies.

I don't think I'm qualified to diagnose someone I've never met nor had any direct dialogue with a sociopath or any other psychological disorder. I'm sure I've met a sociopath but I didn't know it.

I have an ex-brother in law who I consider a sociopath.

Trump might be a sociopath...wouldn't shock me in the least.

But Zed thinks everyone with an "R" after their name or has voted for someone with an "R" after their name suffers from varying degrees of a sociopath.

I'll leave the diagnoses to anyone except Zed....or any other self-professed expert on the matter here on the DR.

LOL

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:09 AM | Reply

-It's easy to predict the behavior of egotistical narcissists like Trumpy.

LOL

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:10 AM | Reply

" List of Republicans is in the article."

List includes Portman and Marco Rubio, who four years ago said they'd delay a SCOTUS confirmation in an election year if the parties were switched. So you really can't take them at their word...something every reporter should bring up every time these a******s make a claim in the future: Why should the voters believe you now, when you lied to them about something as important as the Supreme Court?

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-09-24 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

35/36

Wow, someone discovered google.

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:11 AM | Reply

57

I couldn't agree more.

Why do you think everyone is choosing to believe Trump now?

If he was really intending on staying the WH after being voted out....do you think he'd announce it to the world?

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:15 AM | Reply

-mealy mouthed fool.

you realize that you really aren't disagreeing with me on anything of substance.

Your feelings are hurt.

nothing more, boy. just go get some kleenex and a juice box and come back later.

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:17 AM | Reply

If he was really intending on staying the WH after being voted out....do you think he'd announce it to the world?

#59 | Posted by eberly at

Sure he would: and sure he does.

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#59 | Posted by eberly at

What do you rest your theory Donald Trump is a sane human being upon?

Showing your work too much for you?

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 11:21 AM | Reply

61

There's the wisdom we all value so much!!!

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:21 AM | Reply

-What do you rest your theory Donald Trump is a sane human being upon?

Look Zed....you expect anybody here to even converse with you when you're so ------- dumb as to type ---- like that?

I haven't made the argument Donald Trump is sane, or insane or anything.

you are struggling with basic comprehension skills so badly and you're expecting someone like me to listen to you?

#64 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:23 AM | Reply

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2020

Just pointing out an obvious truth you should know after almost four years.

Trump likes to brag and he has a big, ego-drenched mouth. He's always said the quiet part out loud.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 11:23 AM | Reply

@#59 ... If he was really intending on staying the WH after being voted out....do you think he'd announce it to the world? ...

To your point... I prefer to look more at Pres Trump's actions than his words.

His actions tell me that he is trying to sabotage the election, that he is trying to sow enough uncertainty into the election process that he can resist the results of the election should he lose.

#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-24 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I haven't made the argument Donald Trump is sane, or insane or anything.

#64 | Posted by eberly

That's right, EBERLY. You haven't done a damned thing.

Keep it up. You have a talent.

#67 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-24 11:25 AM | Reply

Your feelings are hurt.

nothing more, boy. just go get some kleenex and a juice box and come back later.

#60 | POSTED BY EBERLY

My feeling is not hurt.

I am angry.

There is a difference fool.

And I am just tired of you deplorables and your mealy mouthed attempts at "explaining" or justifying anything this Negligent Criminal in the White House says.

And then you act like we are overreacting.

My friend. We are not overreacting.

We are underreacting.

#68 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 11:25 AM | Reply

Also Beverly.

How does one "overreact" to 200,000 dead Americans completely or partially due to the President of the United States and his criminal negligence.

#69 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 11:28 AM | Reply

"I am angry...with eberly"

ft

"That's right, EBERLY. You haven't done a damned thing."

not exactly. what has you frustrated is that I won't do what you WANT me to do, which is assert Trump is sane, good person, or some nice attribute you can use as an excuse to hit me with your purse.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:29 AM | Reply

-My friend. We are not overreacting.

so then what should you be doing, if you're underreacting?

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:29 AM | Reply

I'll return....I have a meeting right now

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 11:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If you can't say whether or not water is wet, that's on you.

#73 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-24 11:34 AM | Reply

Republicans condemn Trump's refusal to commit to peaceful transfer of power
www.axios.com
...A number of prominent Republican lawmakers addressed President Trump's refusal on Wednesday to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses November's presidential election....
Worth noting: None of the statements issued so far directly mention Trump by name " or why they're speaking out on the issue now....

List of Republicans is in the article.
#50 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER A

Without looking is that the same list as those Republican Senators who said that a SC justice shouldnt be approved in an election year?

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 11:50 AM | Reply

Wow, someone discovered google.

#58 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Wow, Eberly refuses to acknowledge the obvious

#75 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-24 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Maybe you and your fellow deplorables....
---- off, punk.

#51 | POSTED BY EBERLY

The response of a guilty conscience?

#76 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-24 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#74 ... Without looking is that the same list as those Republican Senators who said that a SC justice shouldnt be approved in an election year? ...

I don't know all the Republicans who made that statement, but, yes, a couple three on that list did.

But I was less interested in that than I was in the meekness in which they made their statements regarding Pres Trump and the election.

Considering some things that have had Republicans in Congress yelling on the floor of Congress...

In my view, their cowardly meek response to Pres Trump's vocalized threat to the democratic process bordered upon their abdication of responsibility to the Constitution.

It was just another example of fealty to Pres Trump and not loyalty to the Constitution.




#77 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-24 12:12 PM | Reply

"And I am just tired of you deplorables and your mealy mouthed attempts at "explaining" or justifying anything this Negligent Criminal in the White House says."

I'm not doing that.

You're lying.

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 12:23 PM | Reply

You're lying.

#78 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I am lying about my feelings??

Err feeling?

Don't be such a fool

I am not lying.

I could be wrong about you but it's not likely.

Regardless. That is not lying.

Lying is what a deplorable does.

#79 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 12:31 PM | Reply

-Lying is what a deplorable does.

there you go......

#80 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 12:44 PM | Reply

-I am lying about my feelings??

I don't know....that's not what I'm saying.

you're trolling...calling me a deplorable, when you know I'm not. I'm also not an enabler nor a sycophant for Trump either.

and you know that....but you're admittingly very angry and emotional and looking for a fight.

And this is how you do it....by lying and trolling.

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 12:59 PM | Reply

If he was really intending on staying the WH after being voted out....do you think he'd announce it to the world?
#59 | Posted by eberly

Eberly - Trump does not intend on being voted out. That is the main issue here. He literally said that we need to throw out the ballots, and this would solve the problem, there wouldnt be transfer of power "there would be a continuation". Consider for a moment if Obama had said anything nearly close to what Trump has. Trump is not hiding it. He has been very vocal about his plans. In my opinion at this stage, with his own words on record, Liberals are not overreacting. His attorneys are actively looking for ways to undermine our votes in swing states by defaulting to Trump if the race is close.

#82 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2020-09-24 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He literally said that we need to throw out the ballots, and this would solve the problem, there wouldnt be transfer of power "there would be a continuation".

Yes, his plan is to get the SC to invalidate millions of mail-in ballots across the country, and here's why:

President Trump heads to North Carolina this afternoon, where there have been over one million absentee ballot requests, per the latest count. Fewer than 90,000 absentee ballots had been requested this time in 2016 and Dem requests are outpacing GOP ones by more than two to one.

twitter.com

#83 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-24 01:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Seniors are breaking for Biden, and if that continues, getting millions of absentee ballots, many likely from retired folks who don't want to venture out during a pandemic, invalidated will help Trump "win".

#84 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-24 01:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Asked on Fox News Radio if he agrees that if the Supreme Court says Joe Biden won then Joe Biden won, Trump says, "Oh, that I would agree with, but I think we have a long way before we get there. These ballots are a horror show."

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#85 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-24 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

do you not remember making the same accusations and predictions about GWB?
He wasn't going to leave the white house. He was going to declare martial law or execute some legal maneuver which allowed him to remain in office.
#19 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I don't recall any of this. Not sure anyone but your imagination does.

You're claiming BushJr said, "there won't be a transfer, frankly. There'll be a continuation."

Eberly. Does lying to yourself help?

Trump is like BushJr?

Not in a million years.

BushJr was a dummy. Cheney's patsy.

Trump is evil. Putin's patsy. Hitler's protege.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-24 01:22 PM | Reply

POSTED BY JUSTAGIRL_IDAHO

I must say, everything you've been posting over the last few months has been gold.

Thank you for speaking up more.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-24 01:25 PM | Reply

#85 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY - unfortunately my take on that is that Trump hopes to have a 6 to 3 lopsided SC that would just do as he asks. I dont actually believe it would work out quite as he expects, but he is stacking the courts for a reason.

#88 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2020-09-24 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#88 Yes, and I think the first thing Roberts should do after the new justice is confirmed is to state that the person won't be participating in any election cases involving Trump that come before the Court due to any possible perception of favoritism. We already know Trump demands loyalty and quid pro quo from his appointees. Gorsuch wouldn't agree to any such demand I don't think. Kav? He's so pissed off at how he was treated by Democrats that I don't think he will be objective.

#89 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-09-24 01:38 PM | Reply

He wasn't going to leave the white house. He was going to declare martial law or execute some legal maneuver which allowed him to remain in office.
#19 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I do not recall that being said about Bush, however I clearly recall it being said here and many other places about Obama. Obama never made any moves that lead me to believe the hype and I said so to my Dad and my husband's crazy friends (that even believe several alien races live together on the moon and avoid us...). Trump is the first POTUS I actually worry will pull a stunt to remain in office, whether successful or not.

#90 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2020-09-24 01:43 PM | Reply

"I do not recall that being said about Bush,"

you weren't here then.

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-24 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#91 - I know that I wasnt, but I was other places with other insane liberals around me never once saying those things. I still lived in Cali when Bush was POTUS and I heard LOTS of complaints about him. Pulling stunts to remain in office was not one of them.

#92 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2020-09-24 01:51 PM | Reply

"I'm also not an enabler nor a sycophant for Trump either."

Oh BS.

You constantly try and justify his Criminal behavior by pretending it is normal and that the Democrats and posters here are always over reacting.

I have agreed with you that Trump manipulates and plays the press by pulling their strings. He is a professional at that.

But I agree with little else.

Like I said I before... considering what this man has said and done we are under reacting. And if you want to know I have a list.

You don't have to be as angry as me but you should be upset and concerned at the barest minimum. That is if you had a clue. And for you to poo poo this as Trumpy just being Trumpy again is just unacceptable to me. And shows me your true color. No matter what want me to believe.

Your color is Red. And when I see red I am like a bull now. I have no patience for any of the lies anymore. Or anyone who tried to push them or explain them or justify them.

#93 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-24 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Your color is Red. And when I see red I am like a bull now

Oh ----, boys!

Ya'll done ------ up now.

#94 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-24 03:03 PM | Reply

Yes, his plan is to get the SC to invalidate millions of mail-in ballots across the country ...

How would that work as a practical matter? A federal ballot is a federal ballot. If it's thrown out for one candidate on the ballot then it's out for all candidates. How are the senators and representatives on that ballot going to react? Do you really expect the Court to invalidate an entire election? I don't see that happening.

#95 | Posted by et_al at 2020-09-24 03:49 PM | Reply

Invalidate all mail-in ballots is the plan as I understand it. He's been busy laying out that argument for weeks now. Have you read the piece in the Atlantic?

Trump voters go to rallies not wearing masks. The thinking is that he's counting on showing a lead on Nov 3rd. As the mail-in votes are counted the elections will swing more and more towards Biden. This will go on for a few days, and Trump will be in court fighting the whole time to get the mail-in ballots invalidated.

Have you read the piece in the Atlantic? Any of the follow on reporting and analysis?

#96 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-24 06:23 PM | Reply

Trump won't have a choice when he losses the election. It won't matter what he says, does, or threatens to do, he is gone from the WH Jan 20, 2021. He can leave on his own or get tased and led out in shackles after 12:01pm after he can and will be charged with criminal trespass. All codes will be changed and he will never see the place again.

Trump will end up in one of 2 places. State Prison or Russia. Either way his assets and property will be seized by the US treasury and IRS for back taxes plus penalties, and to pay off plaintiffs in lawsuits against him.

November 3rd is the beginning for hell on earth for Orange Adolf and his feral spawn. They will all be held accountable for their crimes for the first time in their lives.

#97 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-09-25 03:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nothing in that article mentions that Trump won't peacefully leave. Nothing. Not one sentence or word. I'm all for calling out a problem when it is a problem but making up problems to try to get votes is despicable on all sides.

#98 | Posted by humtake at 2020-09-25 12:23 PM | Reply

Nothing in that article mentions that Trump won't peacefully leave. Nothing. Not one sentence or word.
#98 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

You should try reading the article.

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-25 12:37 PM | Reply

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