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Friday, September 25, 2020

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy told a federal court that hundreds of high-speed mail sorting machines he ordered removed cannot be returned to service because they were stripped for parts.

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I'm so tired of this administration's blatant and transparent --------.

------- resign already. We hate you.

#1 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-25 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

See? people say they respect transparency......but just look.

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-25 04:56 PM | Reply

I think he should offer proof that they have been stripped for parts.

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-25 04:57 PM | Reply

hey masked eberly man. How are ya?

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-25 04:57 PM | Reply

I'm good. both of me

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-25 04:58 PM | Reply

Sorting machines aren't required for ballots. All ballots are the same size, shape and color. They are rather easy to sort by hand if necessary plus they all won't be coming into any post office on the same day. Unlike regular mail where a letter coming in could end up at one of hundreds of millions of potential locations, all incoming ballots end up at probably only a few thousand locations and the majority coming into a post office would go to the very limited locations where that state's ballots are counted. This is a non-story and you're buying into it.

#6 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-25 04:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

6

---------!!! Why couldn't you have waited to dump cold water on people!!!

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-25 04:59 PM | Reply

Sorting machines aren't required for ballots.
#6 | POSTED BY ROCKY_B

Oh, you mean machines aren't necessary for life to function?

It just makes functions like sorting mail or traveling long distances, like say with a car, easier?

You know, Gracie was saying you're the sock puppet account a liberal created to pose as a dumb fkkkking (R)Tarded conservative.

Maybe she was right.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-25 05:05 PM | Reply

I suspect that the sorting machines were 'dismantled' using bolt-cutters and torches.

OCU

#9 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-09-25 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

@#6 ... They are rather easy to sort by hand ...

The mailing of the ballots to the voters needs the sorting machines because the ballots are typically mailed from a central location in the state, and go through the sorting machines, that used to exist, to be routed to the correct local post office.

Yes it could be done by hand if necessary.

But that does not answer the question of why the Trump administration is dismantling the postal system just when it is needed for an important election, and why Pres Trump is using the possible effects of such dismantling to cast doubt upon the validity of the election.


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-25 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The real story is DeJoy will be a billionaire if he can successfully destroy the USPS.

Trump had given him the thumbs up to do so.

Until a judge recently stopped them.

If Trump wins. Good bye USPS.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-25 05:07 PM | Reply

Can everyone stop overreacting.

Trump needs us all placated.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-09-25 05:09 PM | Reply

If Trump wins. Good bye USPS.

That's upset a lot of your pen pals in San Quentin, won't it, Reza?

#13 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-25 05:13 PM | Reply

By "stripped for parts" they mean some lackey took a sledge to them and fabrication of new ones will take too long.

Wouldn't be surprised if it happened after they saw their actions were going to run afoul of judges and the law.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-25 05:25 PM | Reply

Heavy sigh... all this scorched earth activity is because the orange pig doesn't like Amazon and Bezos... because Bezo's called ------- bluff and putting him out of business... its how cl0wns do things...

you remember Bushturds... televised "Shock and Awe" commencing 18 years of war... to get a man that tried to kill his daddy.

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-09-25 05:26 PM | Reply

---------!!! Why couldn't you have waited to dump cold water on people!!!

#7 | POSTED BY EBERLY

How is it "cold water" exactly?

It's not like ballots come to the USPS like mail to Santa-in giant sacks that say "To Santa."

They'll be mixed with other mail, from which they will need to be...wait for it....sorted.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2020-09-25 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

More dumb ---- courtesy of the ever stupid Eberly.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-09-25 05:44 PM | Reply

If DeJoy had the machines dismantled then they can be reconditioned and re-assembled. If DeJoy had the machines destroyed then they'll will not be able to be re-assembled and used.
There's defining intent in DeJoys explanation. The judge should pay attention to what DeJoy is saying in order to allow that definition to explain itself and perhaps incriminate too.

#18 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-09-25 06:24 PM | Reply

DeJoy's going to jail, he lied in his congressional testimony. There will be emails regarding these machines and the reason for their destruction. Trump hires the BEST people, to crime for him.

#19 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-09-25 06:27 PM | Reply

" DeJoy's going to jail, he lied in his congressional testimony. "

so what? in 20 years he'll host a fox news show. that's after the pardon.

#20 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-09-25 06:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

This mail in vote issue is a non-issue. There are only 9 states that are sending ballots to all registered voters. I believe only Colorado is a mail in only state (but I could be wrong). All but Utah are going to vote for Biden no matter what so the number of ballots returned won't change the EC count in 8 out of the 9 states (well over 100 EC votes). The voters in remaining states need to ask for a ballot (some with and some without an excuse). If they didn't ask for a ballot, their only option will be to vote in person so there really probably won't be as many mail-in ballots as you might think and they won't all arrive at any post office on one day. They'll probably be scattered across a week at least. Both of our sides are making too big a deal of this issue in my opinion.

#21 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-25 06:34 PM | Reply

This is a non-story and you're buying into it.

#6 | POSTED BY ROCKY_B AT 2020-09-25 04:5

No, ROCKY. You're a fascist.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 06:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Trump wins. Good bye USPS.

#11 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-09-25 05:07 PM |

Another Nostradamus post.

#23 | Posted by OSHAKHENNESY at 2020-09-25 06:49 PM | Reply

The time is coming, ROCKY, and very soon, where people declare for the Republic or they stand with Donald Trump.

You still have time to save your soul. And I mean save it, literally.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 06:51 PM | Reply

@#21 ... All but Utah are going to vote for Biden no matter what so the number of ballots returned won't change the EC count in 8 out of the 9 states ...

By your logic, why bother having people vote at all, if the outcome is known? And what about the state and local elections? Do you also thin they should be skipped as well?

... Both of our sides are making too big a deal of this issue in my opinion. ...

With the President of the United States actively trying to disrupt the election, I doubt if what we've been seeing is an over-reaction.


Sorry, I'm not buying your attempts at rationalization for what the Trump administration has been doing.


#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-09-25 06:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Another Nostradamus post.

#23 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNESY

Yeah, as if Trump is hard to read.

You people elevate stupidity to fine art.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 06:52 PM | Reply

Yeah, as if Trump is hard to read.

#26 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-09-25 06:52 PM | REPLY |

Apparently he had no trouble with Shillary and it looks like Biden will be in the same boat. Keep pumping them numbers up MSM. This is going to be classic. and if you think he was Raw and unfiltered the first round - you have a special surprise waiting for you.

#27 | Posted by OSHAKHENNESY at 2020-09-25 06:59 PM | Reply

Apparently he had no trouble with Shillary and it looks like Biden will be in the same boat.

#27 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNESY AT 20

Something you're paid to say. If it's fair election, Trump's going down.

He is, however, mounting that long-predicted coup. The wheels are in motion.

The fascists in this country, to include you, are fully behind him.

I hope you all meet the fate you deserve.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:02 PM | Reply

if you think he (trump) was Raw and unfiltered the first round - you have a special surprise waiting for you.

#27 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNESY

I expect him to arrest his political enemies, plus anyone he just happens to be jealous of.

You, as a fascist, will be fully behind him.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:03 PM | Reply

You, as a fascist, will be fully behind him.

#29 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-09-25 07:03 PM | REPLY

Oh lookey boys and girls! Zed learned a new word Fascist - but he wants to jail you for leaving your home without covering your face with a "mask"

#30 | Posted by OSHAKHENNESY at 2020-09-25 07:13 PM | Reply

Something you're paid to say. If it's fair election, Trump's going down.

#28 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-09-25 07:02 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Sounds familiar to 2016 to me. Remember? Hillary by +8

#31 | Posted by OSHAKHENNESY at 2020-09-25 07:14 PM | Reply

Both of our sides are making too big a deal of this issue in my opinion.

#21 | Posted by Rocky_b

You think a president using his power to try and make it harder for people to safely vote during a pandemic should somehow NOT be a big deal?

Shows how 4 years of trump's corruption has desensitized your crusty brain.

In any other administration, this would be the scandal of the century. With trump, it's just another day. Yet still your morons support this anti patriotic crook.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-25 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#30 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNESY AT

Well, it's what you are. I mean, really? There could be another word? I'm sure it's not patriot. Being a patriot doesn't promise to get you what you want.

Traitor, maybe?

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds familiar to 2016 to me. Remember? Hillary by +8

#31 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNESY AT 2020

Donald Trump is not a popular man. He's just not.

He knows this well, and that's why he cheats.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yet still your morons support this anti patriotic crook.

#32 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2020-09-25 07:15 PM | FLAG:
RECEIVED

I'm sure ROCKY is not a moron.

He is, however, sick.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:21 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is not a popular man

You, of all people, know that's not the case.

#36 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2020-09-25 07:23 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is not a popular man. He's just not.
He knows this well, and that's why he cheats.

#34 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-09-25 07:19 PM | REPLY

"he cheats"? That's it? That's all you got? I have a bridge to sell.

#37 | Posted by OSHAKHENNESY at 2020-09-25 07:24 PM | Reply

You, of all people, know that's not the case.

#36 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

Because I live in Texas? It's because I live in Texas I know how much trouble Trump is in.

The man has decided he can't win unless he cheats. If cheating doesn't work he'll do something much worse.

Trump is a psychopath. He's crazy and he's mean. We're going to be lucky to get through this election without people being killed.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"he cheats"? That's it? That's all you got?

#37 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNES

He ------ his mother, too. A club you envy.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-25 07:32 PM | Reply

That would be his daughter Zed.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-25 07:51 PM | Reply

Republicans are worse than scum. We need a new word for them. Republiscum? Rescumlicans?

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-25 07:53 PM | Reply

------- is dragging our nation into a revolution. Sooner or later ---- will become too much for the system to handle.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-25 07:54 PM | Reply

It took thirty-five years in politics for half the country to hate Hillary Clinton.

Donald has achieved that in just four.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-25 08:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without.

#44 | Posted by ConfuciusSay at 2020-09-25 08:01 PM | Reply

Truthhurts say sock puppet should go ---- himself

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-09-25 08:03 PM | Reply

Does this mean those millions of bogus ballots being sent by the Chinese will arrive too late to make it a rigged election?

#46 | Posted by TenMile at 2020-09-25 08:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sorting machines aren't required for ballots. All ballots are the same size, shape and color. They are rather easy to sort by hand if necessary plus they all won't be coming into any post office on the same day. Unlike regular mail where a letter coming in could end up at one of hundreds of millions of potential locations, all incoming ballots end up at probably only a few thousand locations and the majority coming into a post office would go to the very limited locations where that state's ballots are counted. This is a non-story and you're buying into it.
#6 | POSTED BY ROCKY_B
---------!!! Why couldn't you have waited to dump cold water on people!!!
#7 | POSTED BY EBERLY

To be this ------- stupid...

That's great IF all the ballots were coming in ONE GROUP. But they aren't. They will be together with all the other mail when they come in.

So separating and sorting all of the mail, including the ballots, on time will be impossible without the machines.

Why does it matter? Because late ballots don't count. So we are likely talking about tens of thousands of ballots potentially not arriving in time to be counted EVEN though the voter followed all the rules.

Now shut up. The grown ups are talking.

#47 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-09-25 08:31 PM | Reply

Who is talking to you, syco?

Oh...nobody?

People been talking to me all day.

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2020-09-25 10:05 PM | Reply

Looks like I've hit a nerve with some of you. Sorry. Bottom line is that I'm not your enemy. I'm actually trying to find common ground with many of you. It's was not too long ago when it was possible for Dems and Reps to find some common group. I'd like to see those days again. To the person who said something like "are you suggesting that we don't have an election?" That's not what I'm saying but you have to admit that the Democrats could nominate a rock and he/she would win against Trump in California, Illinois, Oregon, New York, Washington, etc. so in those states, it doesn't matter how many people vote for Biden. Don't you find it interesting that the "ballots for all registered voters" is going to mostly Democrat states? Fraud won't matter. I voted for Hillary in 2016 to make my wife happy because it didn't matter in my state (you'll all be happy to know that she's voting for Biden in 2020). For the last 4 years I've been tired of hearing that Hillary got more votes. I wonder how many people did what I did so this time, I'm actually voting for Trump. I fully expect that Biden will win the popular vote again because the big Democrat states are really fired up this year. Good for you. By the way, if Biden does win, I hope that the Republicans give Biden/the Democrats everything they want (without exception). I would like to see what the US would look like under full Democrat control. Sycophant, if there are mail-in voters who vote after November 3rd, their vote won't count. I'm sure all of the courts will allow weeks to go by before the votes are considered invalid. Also, please remember to follow the mail in voting rules because if you don't, your vote also wont count. Sorry. Zed, that's for saying that I'm not a moron. But sick? Really? I expect that many of you would find common ground with me if you were to know me. I'm not that unreasonable. That said, bring on the hate.

#49 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-25 10:51 PM | Reply

I believe only Colorado is a mail in only state (but I could be wrong).

#21 | Posted by Rocky_b

There are five vote-by-mail-only states, in addition to Colorado, there is Utah, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii. The other four states where all registered voters will automatically receive an actual vote-by-mail ballot, even though they also offer in-person voting, are California, Nevada, Montana and New Jersey.

OCU

#50 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-09-25 10:57 PM | Reply

"I expect that many of you would find common ground with me if you were to know me"

Tell me you're not supporting Trump and we're cool, ROCKY.

Otherwise your just another fool wanting to piss on everything good about this country.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2020-09-26 07:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rocky, you should do some basic research to find out if what you're posting is true. That is if you really care. Like how many states are vote-by-mail only, how many states allow no excuse mail-in voting, and what states don't allow it unless you have a very specific exemption. fivethirtyeight.com

Also your understanding of the way mail is sorted and manpower required was also seriously lacking.

I'm so sorry that you're so tired of hearing how Hillary won the popular vote that you're now voting for Trump! That must have been quite a burden to endure to make you vote for Trump. Again.

Please don't pretend you're "trying to find common ground" when all you're trying to do is drag the US down the -------.

#52 | Posted by YAV at 2020-09-26 08:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So many "new contributors" here lately.

Any body wonder what their previous handles were?

#53 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2020-09-26 09:05 AM | Reply

Reminds me of that little ditty....

When Humpy Trumpy makes his great fall off of his beautiful Great Wall then all the Kings horses and all the Kings men will not be able to put Humpy together again.

And who would want to?

#54 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-26 10:16 AM | Reply

(but I could be wrong).

#21 | Posted by Rocky_b

That gets the "Understatement of the Year Award"!

Gratz!

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-09-26 10:17 AM | Reply

#37 | POSTED BY OSHAKHENNESY AT 2020-09-25 07:24 PM | FLAG: Welcome back, Goattroll

#56 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-09-26 03:49 PM | Reply

You're all missing my point. Mail in ballots in most of these states that are offering this service (without a specific ballot request) won't change the Electoral College count. Biden might get more votes than he would have during a normal year's election but a win for Biden by 1,000 votes is the same as a win for Biden by 1 million votes. This is why I'm saying that this whole mail in ballot issue is not going to be a big deal for either side.

#57 | Posted by Rocky_b at 2020-09-26 04:42 PM | Reply

This is why I'm saying that this whole mail in ballot issue is not going to be a big deal for either side.
#57 | POSTED BY ROCKY_B

Then why do you suppose Trump and the rest of the GOP are so eager to undermine the faith we've had in said system for over a century?

#58 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-09-26 04:58 PM | Reply

I'm actually voting for Trump.

#49 | Posted by Rocky_b

In other words, you have no problem with a proven liar, con man, sexual predator, racist, and traitor running the country.

You have no problem with putin putting bounties on the heads of american soldiers.

You have no problem with lobbyists running the government agencies that regulate their industries.

You're ok with a president selling foreign policy in exchange for political favors.

You're ok with a president using the justice department to bury his crimes and investigate his opponents.

You support a president trying to cripple the voting system to help him win an election.

You don't think the founders would have a problem with a president who refused to submit to congressional oversight.

You see no problem with trump being a role model for kids all over the nation and the world.

And you don't think there's anything wrong with having a white supremacist in the oval office.

These are the positions you hold if you vote for trump.

You're either evil, or a moron, or both.

#59 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-09-26 07:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Bottom line is that I'm not your enemy."

Who are your enemies?

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-26 07:30 PM | Reply

...if there are mail-in voters who vote after November 3rd, their vote won't count. I'm sure all of the courts will allow weeks to go by before the votes are considered invalid.

#49 | Posted by Rocky_b

The only votes that arrive after November 3rd which will be counted are those which arrive before the final cut-off date for vote-by-mail ballots. This time period is different in each state, but what IS the same in EVERY states is that ONLY those ballots which are postmarked on or before November 3rd will be considered valid. Any ballot that is postmarked after election day will NOT even be opened, let alone be included in the final tally.

OCU

#61 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-09-26 07:46 PM | Reply

What a scary-looking critter, DeJoy's side-eye must get him aaalll the feral bitches.

Trump isn't going to win over military ballots other than the ones they choose to count.

If he wins he was right - the troops are suckers and losers after all.

Rocky is right in that only the slave owners representatives, I mean "electoral college" votes actually ever count, never the popular vote. Literally, it won't be counted.

#62 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-09-26 08:56 PM | Reply

USPS got my ballot delivered to me because that's how I voted in the last election. My wife and I filled out and witnessed each other's ballots. Then we walked together two short blocks and across a large parking lot to the front of City Hall. There we dropped our ballots into the City Clerk's drop box on the front of the building. We've been voting this way for a very long time. The special website says our votes have been received.

#63 | Posted by john47 at 2020-09-27 10:36 AM | Reply

Re: #63

Apologies if "the special website" link is already posted upthread, but could you please share a link so I can check on my ballot?

#64 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-27 10:39 AM | Reply

So the Postmaster General deliberately destroyed government property.

That doesn't seem very legal.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-09-27 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm not a bad guy. I just fervently support bad guys. Why doesn't anybody like me?!?"

#66 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-09-27 01:21 PM | Reply

Apologies if "the special website" link is already posted upthread, but could you please share a link so I can check on my ballot?

#64 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-09-27 10:39 AM |

Wherever you live, the web address is similar.

myvote.wi.gov

#67 | Posted by john47 at 2020-09-27 06:00 PM | Reply

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