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Tuesday, October 06, 2020

A number of megatrends"the demise of local media, hardening lines between urban and rural voters, and more"have led to unprecedented levels of negative polarization in the US. With heavy incentives against compromise of any sort, are we on a path to destroying American democracy?

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Article ignores the distillation of the GOP over the last 20 years. Of course things are more polarized; every sensible person has left the GOP.

#1 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2020-10-06 02:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No mention of Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart or Alex Jones?!

#2 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-10-06 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics"

Imma start this story in 1787, with Article 1 Section 2:

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

But astute readers will know the story actually begins in 1619.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-10-06 03:30 PM | Reply

#1 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2020-10-06 02:58 PM | FLAG:

The same thing is happening on the left now. If you can't see it, you might not be one of the sensible ones ;p

It's everywhere. At this point the only reason I don't fear open civil war is the divisions not following a clear geographic line, since they instead divide urban and rural areas. And personally, I think it's the system working as intended to keep those at the top in power. It's not all that easy to unite and topple those in power when everyone is divided along racial and partisan lines. The economic gap between 99.9% of us and the top .01% has never been wider, The system since Bush with the Patriot act, Citizens United and all these other lovely attacks on individual liberties never more corrupt. And what do we have to show for it? Two parties that are little more than raging whining hypocrites to such extremes they'll change their own beliefs just to oppose the other. The left is the party of peace, and anti-war. Oh wait, that was under Bush, now it's Obama, so we like war. Wait, now it's Trump who's trying to bring troops home and stop wasting that money abroad like we all screamed for back under Bush. So now we fully support foreign wars, racist killing (so long as it's not in our country) and imperialism.

Same with immigration. Bush is in power and not really hard line doing anything about illegal immigration. At this point, we oppose it. It's taking jobs away from the working class, it's depressing wages, and these are only jobs Americans won't do because companies won't pay a living wage, and any company that won't pay a living wage isn't truly successful enough to exist. (I still fully believe all of that, by the way. Parties may not be consistent, I have been for 20 years now.) Dem's are sick of seeing sold out to big business Republicans get away with cheap illegal labor. So Obama is in power now, and we're going to act on that. Border security has never been tighter, families that don't like getting separated get flat out told by the president not to be irresponsible and cross the border illegally or it's their fault. Wait, Trump is in power enforcing the same things and the same views, so now it's racist and there are children in cages, won't anyone do anything?!? (Insert vapors such as only Lindsey Graham could once have and pearl clutching here.)

I could go on and on about how little current events make sense. Honestly, libertarians and BLM should be arm in arm opposing police militarization, but not to leave the right out of my attacks, we have 2nd amendment supporters suddenly turn boot licker over the very reasons they once claimed we need guns for, for one example, but truly I could pick examples all across politics and academia. Political and (supposedly) ethical views change on the drop of a dime anymore, not to support views even, but merely to oppose the other party.

I once supported this kind of refusal to compromise. But when I did that, I incorrectly thought people would hold consistent beliefs, and the views I felt deserved no compromise were things like opposing US interventionism and imperialistic warmongering. Instead, the only thing that has remained consistent is division and partisanship, all while our modern day robber barons pull the strings and keep widening the moat between us and them. I've never been more sad for my country.

#4 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2020-10-07 08:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"We are trying to change the tones in the state capitals and turn them toward bitter nastiness and partisanship. ... Bipartisanship is just another name for date rape."

Grover Norquist

#5 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-10-07 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"No mention of Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart or Alex Jones?!"

Yes, that long winded article would have been more accurate by just mentioning those guys and the Telecommunications Act of 1996 which basically allowed big corporations to buy all the radio networks and kick off the air any liberal voices. In the 1980's we had a wide variety of political commentary on the radio, the most popular show in South Florida, including talk radio and FM music stations was Neil Rogers, a very liberal and funny talk show host. After 1996 all the liberal talkers were eliminated and replaced with dozens of right wing nit jobs. I know one of the popular liberals down here was a guy named Al Rantell, he lost his gig here and moved to California where he suddenly became a Conservative talker. Hey, he needed a job. Lot's of the conservatives you see on Fox News and hear on radio all over they country weren't always conservatives but when offered big pay checks to become conservatives they did.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2020-10-07 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Obama got elected.

#7 | Posted by fresno500 at 2020-10-07 11:58 AM | Reply

When raygun used the idiot evangelicals to be his political base, that was when hate became a GOP political party plank.

They would rather kill America than all religious freedom for everyone.

#8 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-10-07 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

kick off the air any liberal voices....#6 | Posted by danni at 2020-10-07 11:54 AM
Obama got elected. - #7 | Posted by fresno500 at 2020-10-07 11:58 AM
They would rather kill America than all religious freedom for everyone. #8 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-10-07 01:05 PM

Bzzt...The actual answer to the question How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics is that it happened over time when people, like those quoted, felt that lying to make a political point was somehow the moral thing to do.

#9 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-10-08 12:08 AM | Reply

" it happened over time when people, like those quoted, felt that lying to make a political point was somehow the moral thing to do."

It also happened when the people they were lying to were convinced they didn't deserve the truth, and should instead swallow lies for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-10-08 12:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I signed Veteran's Choice into law.
I got a letter from the NFL.
I'm the only one who's ever protected pre-existing conditions.

Thank you, sir, may I have another?

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-10-08 12:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics?

30+yrs of right wing talk/hate radio/tv is the f**king answer.

The linked article is hogwash.

#12 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-10-08 06:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

30+yrs of right wing talk/hate radio/tv is the f**king answer.

Bingo!

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-10-08 07:39 AM | Reply

So, it's the radio?

You're giving no weight to the Internet?

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2020-10-08 08:21 AM | Reply

We were discussing this last night and we realized that the most rural states don't have internet service. Then we considered what our opinions would be if we didn't have it and depended solely on cable news, and then we realized that millions of Americans get Fox News for free if they have cable but MSNBC or CNN only come with premium service which costs more. So, millions of Americans have limited opportunity to hear alternative voices about news. I believe and, if pressed, I could build a strong case that right wing billionaires have purposely dumbed down America. They have achieved their dream of an obedient nation of morons willing to support anything they want to do and say "thank you sir may I have another?" This nation is a laughing stock around the world, especially now, under the Presidency of the Moron in Chief. That millions among us are wanting to reelect him speaks bigly about the stupidity of the American public.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2020-10-08 08:25 AM | Reply

-We were discussing this last night and we realized that the most rural states don't have internet service.

What states did you all agree didn't have internet service?

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2020-10-08 09:08 AM | Reply

"Coupled with the steady decline of local media, this has resulted in a greater emphasis on national politics and less attention paid to local and state politics."

It's true. People have no clue what's going on locally. If they did, they'd realize there is far less partisan division in their local politicians (who actually affect their lives more). There is division on issues....but not so much on partisan based issues.

They sit and watch debates on TV but never attend a city or county commission meeting or local school board meeting.

They'd be so much better off if they did.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2020-10-08 09:22 AM | Reply

It's true. People have no clue what's going on locally. If they did, they'd realize there is far less partisan division in their local politicians (who actually affect their lives more).

Local issues are truly all we are supposed to be paying attention to. But liberals and mob democrats like to have one person to blame all their woes on, which is why they like direct democracies instead of what we have in this nation, which is a Representative Republic of States.

#18 | Posted by boaz at 2020-10-08 03:10 PM | Reply

But liberals blah blah blah...

Get new material Boaz.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-10-08 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Apparently Boaz believes he lives in the RRS (Representative Republic of States).

Maybe that's what Putin calls America.

But Americans call our country The United States of America.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-10-08 03:16 PM | Reply

Boaz.

The more you post your divisionist bullshht, the more it reads like you hate America.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-10-08 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No states but areas that are very rural lack high speed internet service. Yes they can get it from satellites but I understand that is quite expensive.

"Nearly a quarter (24%) of rural Americans say not having access to high-speed internet is a major problem in their local community, reported the Pew Research Center in a 2018 study."

www.usnews.com

#22 | Posted by danni at 2020-10-09 08:04 AM | Reply

#22 - They may have a desire for social media connectivity, but not empathy.

"You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think."

#23 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-10-09 01:29 PM | Reply

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