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Sunday, October 18, 2020

A national TV ad airing Sunday from Democrat Joe Biden's campaign focuses on the Blind Pig, a fabled Ann Arbor concert venue, to criticize President Donald Trump's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. "Everywhere I go, people have a story about the Blind Pig," says Joe Malcoun, co-owner of the Blind Pig, in the new ad. "The Blind Pig has been one of those clubs that attract artists from all genres. For 50 years, the Blind Pig has been open and crowded, but right now, it's an empty room. This is the reality of Trump's COVID response."

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That wasn't Trump's Covid response. Trump would let them party it up, indoors, unmasked. Indoor bar service is shuttered by Whitmer EO. You might remember her as the person several Michigan residents plotted to kidnap and murder.

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-10-19 07:42 AM | Reply

GO A2!

Nice shoutout to my "hometown"

The Blind Pig was sold a few years ago though, and even though they were trying to make it work, it was honestly on the decline anyway. It was a good time to sell it though, and a horrible time to buy it.

Honestly, it's about the 8th best Venue in Ann Arbor, but sadly three of the top five places have closed in the year that I've been gone, two of them closed before the pandemic though.

Pre-pandemic, Ann Arbor is/was one of the most fun cities there is per capita.

#2 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-10-19 08:02 AM | Reply

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Sorry dumbas but Trump owns this. He is the one that didn't want to do what needed to be done early on. He is on tape acknowledging he knew how bad this disease was from the beginning. It was not only Trump's lack of response that caused this on going Covid Disaster we have but also his actions against those trying to stop it.

When Governors like Whitmer tried to do a lock down AND sustain it long enough to bring the spread to a stop. TRUMP lead the outcry against the actions and brought the right wing lunatics out of the woodwork to "protest" with their guns at the capital - A gentle reminder from Tump on Twitter.

Now this loon is pushing for "herd immunity"... At most just over 10% of the population has had the disease and we don't even know if Herd Immunity is even possible. The best guess is we have over 300k dead at this time from CV-19 - far more than the "official" count and another 100k excess dead from other causes because of the spread. If that trend were to continue we are looking at 3 million dead directly from the disease and several times that with permanent health problems from it.

#3 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-10-19 09:59 AM | Reply

When Governors like Whitmer tried to do a lock down AND sustain it long enough to bring the spread to a stop. TRUMP lead the outcry against the actions and brought the right wing lunatics out of the woodwork to "protest" with their guns at the capital

#3 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2020-10-19 09:59 AM | FLAG:

Trump owns a big ol' chunk of it, but... Nothing he, nor the armed rednecks, did overturned Whitmer's EOs. It was a pathetic showing by idiots that couldn't even muster a full company. The 100+ straight days of Detroit protests, with MI lockdowns and outdoor gathering limits in place, drastically outnumbered them and also openly defied the state governor's likely unconstitutional limits on freedom to assemble.

But this is a business thread, and it's her EO keeping that business shuttered. She opened casinos up just to compete with Native American casinos in Michigan that adapted, opened up first, and were keep themselves afloat.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-10-19 10:10 AM | Reply

"In a landmark ruling with far-reaching implications, the Michigan Supreme Court decided Friday that Gov. Gretchen Whitmer violated her constitutional authority by continuing to issue orders to combat COVID-19 without the approval of state lawmakers." 10/2/2020

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-10-19 10:16 AM | Reply

#2 | Posted by bocaink

I like Ann Arbor but for fun? East Lansing has it beat as a college town... I always found Ann Arbor hoity-toity. Royal Oak and Grand Rapids are both great towns for fun. It's been nice to see Grand Rapids transform to a more liberal city - surrounding areas are still VERY religious right conservative though.

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-10-19 10:17 AM | Reply

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg

The loosening up of things was 100% a direct result of all Trump's instigating. If he would have come out for strict mask rules and been promoting masks things would be a LOT better in this state and in this country. After the protests and threats to her and lawmakers she did open some things up and our numbers immediately started going back up. I don't think it was until Late August or September the Mask order was pretty much 100% obeyed and now that her powers are in question, idiots be flaunting it again. Many stores are afraid to enforce their mask rules because they don't want their employees assaulted or shot.

I am aware of "opinion" of the state supreme court. It wasn't a legally binding ruling but may as well be and it didn't happen until this month. It was asked as an opinion by a federal court. BTW Michigan's State Supreme Court is controlled by Conservatives and has been for some time.

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-10-19 10:25 AM | Reply

"East Lansing has it beat as a college town..."

Are you trying to fight me?

#8 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-10-19 12:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

That wasn't Trump's Covid response. Trump would let them party it up, indoors, unmasked.

#1 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

You're pretending that if the government lifts restrictions then everyone is just going to go back to how life was before. I am in Georgia. Some people go out. But most people are still staying home. Or at least staying home much more than they were before.

The government has lost control of the response, and that is Trump's fault. A majority of the population has no faith in what the government tells them to do. So even if the government says "it's safe", most people are still going to stay away. The proper response was to show real leadership. To shut down (if necessary) to stop the spread of the virus and buy some time. To then put the infrastructure in place to allow the country to adapt to the virus and limit its spread until a vaccine could be developed. And to provide leadership so that everyone knows what the "right" thing to do is. Conservatives were able to accomplish none of that.

We shut down, but not long enough so it just paused the spread of the virus, did not knock it back. They did not put proper infrastructure in place so that there would be wide access to testing and PPE when states did open back up, and to put into effect track-and-trace programs that are actually effective at preventing the spread of epidemics. And they provided no leadership. Even within his own administration, Trump cannot give out a consistent message on whether people should be wearing a mask or not. He threw everything back on the states and told them that it basically was not his problem, that they needed to handle it themselves. And he politicized the issue, insulting and demeaning anyone who had a different opinion than him on the best way to handle it, instead of trying to convince and compromise.

I cannot blame the average American if they decide not to wear a mask. Because they have not been given a consistent message by this conservative administration on whether they should or not. They have basically been told that they have to choose who to believe, decide for themselves who is an "expert". So, once things ARE better, once we have the virus under control, what do you think is going to happen? Hopefully we have Biden as president at that point because he actually knows how to be a leader, how to put out consistent messaging. But, if Trump is President, then people will still stay home EVEN AFTER IT IS SAFE. Because they won't believe conservatives when they say it is safe, because conservatives have set the expectation that people in position of authority should not be believed (mainly because conservatives have lied and been inconsistent and wrong so much).

The way to have the country recover economically from the coronavirus is to make people feel confident that it is solved, or at least under control. Nothing else is going to bring the majority of people back out of their homes. And Trump and the rest of the conservatives have COMPLETELY flubbed that aspect of it. And the economy will pay for the conservative incompetence for years to come. Your best bet is to move to an actual "great" country (that actually had a competent response to corona so will have a fully functioning economy much sooner) like countries in Europe or in Asia. If they will take you. Most of them don't want Americans any more.

#9 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-10-19 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#9 Excellent post. I would only add that we cannot rule out that causing the nation to lose faith in its institutions was intentional; Trump thrives on chaos and division and this may well have been his plan and not just terrible, cowardly governance.

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2020-10-19 12:15 PM | Reply

"... we cannot rule out that causing the nation to lose faith in its institutions was intentional; Trump thrives on chaos and division and this may well have been his plan and not just terrible, cowardly governance."

It may be why Republicans got on board, that's true. They've been trying to defund the federal government for decades and the best way to achieve that is to undermine our faith in those institutions. But Trump? I really don't see evidence that he has the capacity to think on that level, especially when his behavior makes him look like an utter fool to half the country. And that half of the country are just the type of people he's always been trying to impress since he hit the papers in the late 70s early 80s. No, I think he's completely inept and in over his head but on occasion is encouraged in certain directions by the party leaders when they see that they can leverage his behavior for their own purposes.

#11 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-10-19 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That wasn't Trump's Covid response. Trump would let them party it up, indoors, unmasked. Indoor bar service is shuttered by Whitmer EO. You might remember her as the person several Michigan residents plotted to kidnap and murder.

#1 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

You really don't get it.

We COULD be open right now if Trump had taken this thing seriously, encouraged people to wear masks and socially distance, and put in place contact tracing.

Instead, the virus spread across the country and now can't be controlled.

Other nations are open. We are not. Other nations took the precautions. We did not.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-10-19 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They've been trying to defund the federal government for decades and the best way to achieve that is to undermine our faith in those institutions. But Trump? I really don't see evidence that he has the capacity to think on that level

It's a fair enough point, but diminishing faith in our elections and institutions is how he won in 2016 and he may need people to continue losing faith in government to win another election.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2020-10-19 02:45 PM | Reply

#12

And he would have been easily re-elected.

But I think it is egg before chicken here,

Trump responded the way he did because he is who he is.

As I said previously, I still think historians will look at this pandemic as a horrific blessing in disguise.

#14 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-10-19 02:46 PM | Reply

"We COULD be open right now if Trump had taken this thing seriously, encouraged people to wear masks and socially distance, and put in place contact tracing."

It would have required a national stay at home order, national mask mandate, temporary nationalization of the payroll, and at least double the unemployment increases. Had we done that we could have been out of this in two months and the immediate price tag would have been less than the damage we're going to be facing when this is all finally over.

Coming in the next few months we're going to see an explosion of evictions across the country because we're not willing to help millions of people pay the many months they're behind on their rent. Those same people are not going to be able to pass a background check with a recent eviction and employment gap on their record. There just isn't the political will, clearly not with the Republicans, but also with the Democrats, to really do what needs to be done. Biden is going to be dealing with this with both hands tied behind his back, and that's assuming he really understands the stakes. I'm not sure he does.

#15 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-10-19 03:08 PM | Reply

He's right. The only hope for our economy is for Joe Biden to win.

The economy is directly tied to how we deal with COVID. Trump disses our health experts for a retired, right wing radiologist with zero experience in infectious disease who he saw on Fox News. Biden (and Obama and GW Bush) successfully engaged our health experts to quash infectious diseases before they could grow into the pandemics they would have become.

#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-10-20 12:40 PM | Reply

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