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Thursday, October 22, 2020

Joe Lockhart: President Trump has repeatedly refused to commit to leave office peacefully if he loses the election. Instead he rails about voter fraud and a rigged election. His untruths and obstinacy are by now an old story, but they remain both dangerous to our democracy and maybe to our lives if the President continues on this path.

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What the F is wrong with Joe Lockhart? Trump, like any other criminal, needs to be held accountable for any and all crimes that he has committed. Trying to buy off Trump for post election peace is an affront to all law abiding citizens.

#1 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2020-10-21 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Proving once again the only thing more powerful than White Privilege, is Orange Privilege.

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-10-21 05:17 PM | Reply

There is no way America will put a former president is prison
Of course that assumes he won't still be President in January

I see a lot of chickens being quantified while still in egg form

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-10-21 05:55 PM | Reply

Not wise to establish the precedent that you bargain with criminals for domestic peace. No negotiations with terrorists.

If Trump foments a violent insurrection, shoot him.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-10-21 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As a prosecutor I promise not to charge Trump with anything, ever, if he leaves office peaceably. Pinky swear.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2020-10-21 06:07 PM | Reply

Fffk cutting a deal.

Put him in prison and let him rot.

America will survive a few dead Trump supporters.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-10-21 07:02 PM | Reply

FEDUP

"What the F is wrong with Joe Lockhart? "

He probably doesn't know the A.G's at the Southern District of New York very well. They would salivate at Trump going berserk. All the more reason to keep him in a rubber room pending his many trials.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-10-21 09:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"NO DEAL" as the American Public slams down the plastic protector on the Deal or No deal button.

#8 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-10-22 05:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Setting a precedent by negotiating with Trump to get him to cooperate in a transition of power would be a terrible thing to do. We should not have allowed Nixon to slide on his crimes, nor Reagan, nor either Bush but the buck has to stop somewhere and I hope President Biden will insist on prosecution and incarceration. Of course, Trump could resign and allow Pence to pardon him but he would still face tax evasion charges in both state and federal courts. After he separated children from their parents I couldn't care less what punishment he receives and I know, Boaz will be here to deny those kids were actually brought here by their parents but then Boaz is a liar. That particular lie though bothers me more than most of his lies because it involves little children being taken from their mother's arms, even nursing babies. Such a terrible crime should not go unpunished.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2020-10-22 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"I hope President Biden will insist on prosecution and incarceration."

This is one of those posts where my first reaction is to think "hell yes, Danni" until I remember that it fits a pattern.

Can we just skip ahead to the time when you're agreeing with Democrats' justifications for him not doing so? Because we both know it will never happen.

It will sound something like "it sets a bad precedent that Republicans will use against Democrats when they have the chance" or "we have to protect purple state Democrats" or "the people just want to move on and forget the Trump presidency ever happened" or "we don't have the time to waste with a lengthy investigation and prosecution when we have to undo so much damage he caused."

Probably better for everyone involved that you start practicing now.

#10 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-10-22 10:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Biden has already committed to not interfering with the prosecutions.

No deal. The only alternative to him leaving peacefully is him leaving violently. He's leaving either way. He's going to prison either way.

#11 | Posted by DarkVader at 2020-10-22 10:38 AM | Reply

"I hope President Biden will insist on prosecution and incarceration."

I hope President Biden remains completely neutral and allows the courts and the justice system so it's job. Once he is elected he should have nothing further to say about it until the courts have their say and Trump has his day in court.

You know. Like in the Olden days.

Let the chips fall where they may.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-10-22 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Let the chips fall where they may."

I'd be fine with that. We should all recognize though that Trump has threatened Barr's job if he doesn't prosecute Biden, Obama and Clinton.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2020-10-22 11:06 AM | Reply

I'm in the minority, but I just want him to go away.

I would gladly make that deal if it includes never being allowed to step foot on American Soil or make public appearances on American media.

I don't care about his money either way, I just want him away from any sort of influence on America and Americans... which to him is basically a death sentence anyway.

#14 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-10-22 12:04 PM | Reply

DANNI @ #13

"We should all recognize though that Trump has threatened Barr's job if he doesn't prosecute Biden, Obama and Clinton."

Actually, Trump threatened Barr's job if Barr didn't announce that he was hiring a Special Prosecutor to
investigate Biden. I suspect all Trump wants is the "announcement" which is what he did to Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Whatever the reason, Barr seems reluctant to dig his own grave any deeper especially since he knows Trump is going to fire him anyway ~ just like Trump did to Comey.

I wouldn't be surprised if Barr resigned sometime in the next couple weeks.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-10-22 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm in the minority, but I just want him to go away.

I would gladly make that deal if it includes never being allowed to step foot on American Soil or make public appearances on American media.

I don't care about his money either way, I just want him away from any sort of influence on America and Americans... which to him is basically a death sentence anyway.

#14 | Posted by bocaink

What that strategy means is we will have more "trumps" in the future. YOu have to prosecute this trump or future trumps will follow the same path he did.

One of the reasons we prosecute crimes is as a DETERRENT.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-10-22 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Dotard has taken the country hostage, and the United States does not bargain with hostage takers.

#17 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-10-22 01:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"There is no way America will put a former president is prison"

In 2013, Obama signed a law that would provide lifetime secret service protection for ex-presidents and their spouses, as well as children up to age 16.

Would a president sent to prison be bunking with his Secret Service detail?

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-10-22 02:49 PM | Reply

"Not wise to establish the precedent that you bargain with criminals for domestic peace. No negotiations with terrorists."

Really?

What should the Federal government be doing against the left-wing rioters in Portland? By definition, terrorism is defined as the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve a desired political endstate. That seems to be what the antifa rioters are after. And those ------- don't seem to be going anywhere. They're giving COVID a run for it's money.

#19 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-10-22 02:53 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by Twinpac

Wouldn't surprise me to see investigations into Barr's actions in office. I'm not sure what among the things he has done actually crosses a legal line but he is a slimy piece of ....

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-10-22 03:09 PM | Reply

#17 | Posted by _Gunslinger_

Except when we do...

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-10-22 03:10 PM | Reply

What should the Federal government be doing against the left-wing rioters in Portland? By definition, terrorism is defined as the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve a desired political endstate. That seems to be what the antifa rioters are after. And those ------- don't seem to be going anywhere. They're giving COVID a run for it's money.

#19 | Posted by madbomber

HINT - just because fox news is showing video on repeat of rioters in portland doesn't mean it's really still happening. They did the same thing in 2016, showing 2 black panthers outside a voting location, over and over and over. Same video clip for YEARS, trying to make it seem like a real thing they needed to worry about.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-10-22 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"By definition, terrorism is defined as the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve a desired political endstate."

Oh so when Federal police used chemical irritants to clear Lafayette Park political protesters, that's terrorism.

Good to know!

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-10-22 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dotard has taken the country hostage, and the United States does not bargain with hostage takers."

In theory yeah, but he did it through the political system, not by violent force. Not in the literal sense. I wouldn't go that far to call him a hostage taker though. He was enabled through the working mechanisms of government, as vulnerable as they are/were.

Therefore, you still have to see it through the political lens, and prevent the same levers from being ever again pulled institutionally. Putting presidents in jail is something generally reserved for countries with shaky levels of democracy. I'd rather not sink that low just yet.

Let him go, to never come back, and spend the energy and effort reforming the checks and balances. That is best for America.

I understand the sentiment for a pound of flesh, but I am ultimately a game-theory pragmatist, and that is the best path forward for many boring reasons I will get into if you want more reinforcement to this argument.

#24 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-10-23 11:35 AM | Reply

He'll take the deal: the United States Army Military District of Washington DC (3rd Infantry Regiment) will escort him out the door at gunpoint if necessary.

#25 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-10-24 09:21 AM | Reply

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