Experts say Do Not Mail Your Ballot, Use County Drop Box

Tuesday, October 27, 2020

For millions of voters who considered using the U.S. Postal Service to cast their ballot for the Nov. 3 election, it's time to find a backup plan, election administration and postal experts say.

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US ballot delivery delays are not illegal, postal service argues
www.aljazeera.com

...Delivery delays during an election can't be unlawful, because the Constitution doesn't guarantee states any particular level of service when it comes to mail-in ballots, the U.S. Postal Service told a federal judge.

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and President Donald Trump are seeking dismissal of a lawsuit brought by New York and other states that claim disruptive changes at the USPS over the summer are violating the Elections Clause of the Constitution by putting election mail at risk....

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-10-27 11:31 PM | Reply

Yeah, it's cutting it close this late.

I mailed mine in, the county received it weeks ago.

I don't understand why anybody would wait this long, it's not like there's an actual decision at the national level this year. Just mark Biden, then any other Democrats on your local ballot, decide on any local initiatives, put it in the envelope, sign the envelope, mail the thing in. Took about 10 minutes, including double checking the instructions to make sure there aren't any gotchas on where to sign.

#2 | Posted by DarkVader at 2020-10-28 05:02 AM | Reply

Back in my day, the post office could deliver a letter in a day or two tops.

Back in the days of Ben Franklin, they could deliver a letter from Philadelphia to New York and back again within a day or two.

Under Trump, a letter can't make it across town in less than a damn week.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-10-28 11:05 AM | Reply

I just got notice that my mail-in ballot was received. woohoo

... took about a week for them to let me know... soooooooo let that motivate you.

#4 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-10-28 11:58 AM | Reply

This is just common sense. The only reason it became a thing is because Trump didn't want vote by mail, so inevitably the Dems had to support it for no reason. Considering the negatives of voting by mail impacts both parties, it's a non-issue that became an issue because Dems, just like Trump, can't shut up and concentrate on things that actually matter.

#5 | Posted by humtake at 2020-10-28 12:07 PM | Reply

Dems, just like Trump, can't shut up and concentrate on things that actually matter.

#5 | Posted by humtake

You heard it here folks - voting safely doesn't actually matter.

Why didn't trump want vote by mail?

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-10-28 01:30 PM | Reply

Why didn't trump want vote by mail?

#6 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2020-10-28 01:30 PM | REPLY: He apparently has not problem with absentee ballots which must be requested by the registered voter; that being said, mass mailings of ballots is a whole other problem primed for fraud.

#7 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-10-28 02:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If you were thinking you might be able to have your mail-in ballot received and counted at this late date, you might be an idiot. There is still a saving throw for you, however; deliver your ballot to your city clerk or county clerk's office or their drop box before the close of business on Monday, and you'll be okay. Don't wait. Do it NOW!

#8 | Posted by john47 at 2020-10-28 02:52 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by MSgt

How is it primed for fraud? Because the world's most famous liar and his propaganda news network say so?

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-10-28 03:19 PM | Reply

"mass mailings of ballots is a whole other problem primed for fraud."

If that's the case, there should be rampant fraud in the five jurisdictions which do that. Here are the five: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington.

Either prove the widespread fraud, or admit you can't. I'll even give you a link to cases over the last 20 or so years:
www.heritage.org

Once you take out petition fraud and tabulation fraud (neither of which would be addressed by voter ID), all you're left with is a smattering of cases, mostly by folks too addled to remember they voted before they moved.

Again: prove your claim, or admit you can't.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-10-28 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 | Posted by MSgt

Willfully ignorant. Or just a POS.

Any possible problem with absentee ballots sent through the mail has been created by Republicans.

By you and your ilk.

#11 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-10-28 06:43 PM | Reply

He's a willfully ignorant POS.

Don't expect anything worth reading from that poster.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-10-28 06:46 PM | Reply

He's a willfully ignorant POS.

Don't expect anything worth reading from that poster.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack

Eh. I know. I was reading this board for a loooong time before I joined.

Sometimes I regret it, because I'll swear I won't post anything. Then I get in a fight with Mr Dewar's and here I go.

Whatever. Haven't been banned yet.

#13 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-10-28 08:06 PM | Reply

"prove your claim, or admit you can't."

MSgt: it's been hours. Are you still researching, or have you given up?

Sorry...not allowed. Link to proof, or admit you have none. Nothing in-between.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-10-29 01:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Bumping MSGT...please address Danforth's inquiry.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-10-29 04:10 PM | Reply

#15

Notice: Msgt ran away, rather than address the issue at hand.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-10-29 08:39 PM | Reply

Under Trump, a letter can't make it across town in less than a damn week.

#3 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Criminally negligent or disastrously incompetent.

You decide.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-10-29 08:44 PM | Reply

"mass mailings of ballots is a whole other problem primed for fraud."

^
This comment is the fraud.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-10-29 08:45 PM | Reply

Actually, though, you might have a point.

Mass mailing of ballots during the Trump administration certainly puts the Trump appointed Postmaster General in an excellent position to defraud millions of Americans of our right to vote!

So at least we've got that going for us.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-10-29 08:49 PM | Reply