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Wednesday, November 18, 2020

Arguably the biggest political scandal we've ever seen in this country is playing right before our eyes: President Trump and his allies are trying to reverse the election results of a contest he lost.

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I agree, this is a rape of justice.

And we are going to have to deal with years of lunatic hordes believing this fiction.

It is definitely unfair to Biden and a great treason upon this nation.

Criminal prosecutions must follow.

#1 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-11-18 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why is it a scandal? There are already multiple states coming out with discrepancies. There are cases of fraud being seen in multiple places as well. It's not a scandal, it's a normal audit that should be done after every election. It won't change anything like Trump thinks it will because what they are finding applies to votes on both sides, so it's not like there is a miracle number of votes just for Trump sitting somewhere. But that doesn't take away the fact there is no scandal or anything. There is a guy who lost who wants to make sure all of the votes were correct, which is something Dems do very vehemently when they lose also. If you have a problem with that, please enlighten us with actual logic why wanting to make sure all votes are correct is a bad thing. Dems embarrass themselves when they lose like in 2016 and they do the same thing when they win. It's quite pathetic. The country isn't bad because of bad situations, it's because of bad people who refuse to be objective and Dems fit right in there with everyone else, regardless if their entitlement and ego can't let them see that.

#2 | Posted by humtake at 2020-11-18 12:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Why is it a scandal? There are already multiple states coming out with discrepancies.

#2 | Posted by humtake

Well stupid, because trying to make it seems like a few individual discrepencies indicate widespread organized fraud is a lie, which destroys faith in our election system.

Next stupid question?

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-11-18 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

The country isn't bad because of bad situations, it's because of bad people who refuse to be objective and Dems fit right in there with everyone else, regardless if their entitlement and ego can't let them see that.

#2 | Posted by humtake

"BOTH SIDES DO IT!"

Nope. There is only one side that denies science and math. Yours.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-11-18 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

It's not a scandal, it's a normal audit that should be done after every election. It won't change anything like Trump thinks it will because what they are finding applies to votes on both sides, so it's not like there is a miracle number of votes just for Trump sitting somewhere.

#2 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2020-11-18 12:02 PM | REPLY

Trump says the election has been stolen from him. He's not saying let's take an impartial look at the ballots, he's saying this is the biggest election fraud in the history of mankind. And you know from his history that when he claims somebody is doing him dirty that he's projecting. His false, hyperbolic rants about cheating and fraud and coverup will resonate for months or years with his brain-dead supporters, doing serious but unwarranted harm to the perceived legitimacy of our democratic process.

#5 | Posted by cbob at 2020-11-18 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Humturd is fantasizing... crying... eyes all puffy and swollen red nose... just like Trumptidumpster... boohoo weee weeee weeeeeeeeee

Republicl0wns (or whatever the DR trumptilian species is calling themselves these days) spend a lot of time making $#!+ up so they can be mad about it.

I'd tell ya to grow a pair... but I figured if you could... you would have done so by now... either way with or without you just have to live with the reality.

#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-11-18 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Scandal? Does this mean the Repubs are plotting to impeach bitem cuz he won?

#7 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-11-18 12:17 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Why is it a scandal? There are already multiple states coming out with discrepancies. There are cases of fraud being seen in multiple places as well. ...

The level of discrepancies and the level of fraud being found are no where near the levels being asserted (without evidence, btw) by the Pres Trump and the Trump campaign.

What is being found is the usual background noise of the election process. And yes, that background noise needs to be fixed. Indeed, in 2009 (I believe) there was a bi-partisan effort to fix it.

The scandal aspect is that Pres Trump and the Trump campaign are attempting to throw out the votes of more than a million voters because of the very, very few inconsistencies found.

The scandal aspect is that Pres Trump and the Trump campaign are only trying to throw out votes in Democrat-leaning areas.

The scandal aspect is that, while Pres Trump and his supporters are screaming about an election being stolen, that appears to be what Pres Trump and his campaign are trying to do.


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Scandal? Does this mean the Repubs are plotting to impeach bitem cuz he won?

#7 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

If biden was using US foreign aid to blackmail a foreign nation into helping him in an election like trump did, then he should be impeached, like trump was.

Just think, your cult of cowards and morons could have replaced trump with pence back in january and saved tens of thousands of lives. But your commitment to crime racism and stupidity was too strong.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-11-18 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

When Hillary Clinton lost in the EC she conceded but stupid HUMTAKE has to try to play the "both sides do it lie." So predictable.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2020-11-18 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

pence back in january and saved tens of thousands of lives

You give pence too much credit.

The guy is famous for allowing HIV to spread rampant in the state of Indiana and was actually the head of the Covid task force.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-11-18 12:44 PM | Reply

"Mail in votes cant be trusted so let's investigate Utah" said nobody from the right..just look at states Trump lost... predictable

#12 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-11-18 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"The guy is famous for allowing HIV to spread rampant in the state of Indiana and was actually the head of the Covid task force."

Infections are the will of god. Deaths are the will of god.

- Mikey P

#13 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-11-18 01:10 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

It's amazing that people are this stupid.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-11-18 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Why is it a scandal?

Because the GOP is trying to make a losing election swing their way by subverting the will of the voters?

You know, the antithesis of how this country is governed.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2020-11-18 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump pursues recount of 2 liberal Wisconsin counties
apnews.com

...President Donald Trump filed Wednesday for a recount of Wisconsin's two largest Democratic counties, paying the required $3 million cost and alleging that they were the sites of the "worst irregularities" although no evidence of illegal activity has been presented....


I wonder why he is not asking for recounts in the Republican-leaning counties?

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 02:35 PM | Reply

"I wonder why he is not asking for recounts in the Republican-leaning counties?
#16 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

For the same reason noone would try to invalidate a winning lottery ticket.
Jeeesh.

#17 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-11-18 02:47 PM | Reply

@#17 ... For the same reason noone would try to invalidate a winning lottery ticket. ...

So then, Pres Trump and his campaign are not interested in voter fraud or voting discrepancies, as they have been asserting.


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 02:51 PM | Reply

So buttons on a bathtub. You know the answer to that.
Blatant Obtusery is a sin.

#19 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-11-18 02:55 PM | Reply

@#19 ... So buttons on a bathtub. You know the answer to that. ...

Huh?


I know the answer to what?

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 03:01 PM | Reply

#20
Responding to you is like wiping your --- with a hoop. No end to it.

The answer to THIS:
So then, Pres Trump and his campaign are not interested in voter fraud or voting discrepancies, as they have been asserting.

#21 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-11-18 03:06 PM | Reply

@#21

So you agree that Pres Trump and his campaign are not interested in voter fraud or voting discrepancies, but are just trying to steal the election?

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 03:10 PM | Reply

So buttons on a bathtub. You know the answer to that.
Blatant Obtusery is a sin.

#19 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

Oh so you KNOW trump is trying to cheat the election, but you support him anyway. Quite revealling about you.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-11-18 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So so so..
~burp wheeze

#24 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-11-18 03:42 PM | Reply

@#23 ... you KNOW trump is trying to cheat the election ...

That's probably part of the reason why Pres Trump fired Mr Krebs.

Pres Trump needed the lies of the Trump campaign's disinformation campaign asserting, without evidence, voter fraud and voting discrepancies in order to steal the election, Some people (but not enough?) were sucked into believing that disinformation.

Mr Krebs made the propagation of the disinformation difficult with his comments about the integrity of the election.


#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 04:05 PM | Reply

Trump and GoP lawyers are telling judges that there is no voter fraud.

Trump cultists are lying to the public about voter fraud.

#26 | Posted by bored at 2020-11-18 04:17 PM | Reply

@#26 ... Trump and GoP lawyers are telling judges that there is no voter fraud. ...

Yup, that's what they've been saying lately because they quickly found out how little judges like being lied to.

However, as recently as last week, Pres Trump was still using the megaphone about voter fraud to stir up his supporters.

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-18 04:23 PM | Reply

However, as recently as last week, Pres Trump was still using the megaphone about voter fraud to stir up his supporters.

#27 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2020-11-18 04:23 PM | FLAG:

He's doing it right now on Twitter. All day long.

#28 | Posted by cbob at 2020-11-18 05:42 PM | Reply

So so so..
~burp wheeze

#24 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

So what's it like to be part of the cult of a man who has no ethics and has to cheat to win?

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-11-18 06:46 PM | Reply

and still loses...

#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-11-18 06:49 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

It's amazing that people are this stupid.

#14 | POSTED BY JPW

No not really. Not anymore. There are tens of millions of them. Apparently.

I am just happy to see we still out number them.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-11-18 07:27 PM | Reply

Why is it a scandal? Seriously?

First - very little fraud is being turned into an attempt to overthrow an election. If you think Trump is doing it for the future of elections, you're incorrect. This is for Trump, and Trump alone. If he was so interested in future elections, why not look at state he won as well? No fraud there?

Second - this charade has allowed 70% of the GOP to now believe the election was rigged.

Not only is it a scandal, it's unpatriotic.

#32 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-11-18 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

..and it's obvious what the end game is.

Convince electors that there is duplicity......vote for Trump. In states he needs.

Is there any denying that?

#33 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-11-18 09:11 PM | Reply

"Trump's Effort to Overturn the Election Results may be Inept. But it's Still a Scandal."

And a wound to our democracy.

It's reprehensible to sow doubt about the result of a free and fair election.

#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-11-20 12:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm thinking this is almost over.

Folks on r/Conservatives on Reddit are acquiescing to the idea that there is no evidence of fraud.

The charade will continue if only to line Trump and Rudy's pockets/pay off campaign debt.

Just amazing there's still people out there funding this charade. Are they considering it to be a charitable donation/tax right off?

I just don't get it.

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-11-20 12:42 AM | Reply

Another sad sack legal challenge that went poof!

There is no evidence of the kind of fraud Trump and Giuliani keep claiming exists, including massive mail-in ballot fraud, or Republican observers being excluded from vote counts, or dead people voting, or Dominion Voting Services cheating.

In the same (PA) hearing in which Rudy was forced to admit "This is not a fraud case," co-counsel Linda Kerns was asked by Judge Brann whether she would "agree with me that you are not proceeding based on allegations of fraud or misconduct; is that correct?" Kerns answered, "I am not proceeding on those allegations." In another hearing in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein was asked by the judge if was was claiming fraud in disputing about 600 ballots. "To my knowledge at present, no," Goldstein responded. In Maricopa County, Arizona, Trump's lawyer said, of his own volition, "We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. [ ... ] This is not about fraud."

In a Bucks County, Pennsylvania, courtroom Wednesday, Trump lawyers signed court documents attesting that there was no evidence for fraud or misconduct among the more than 2,200 "defective ballots" they are contesting there. In signing the joint stipulation"and agreement by both parties in the case on the fact stipulated in it"they swore that they are not alleging "fraud," or "misconduct," or "impropriety," or "undue influence" among those ballots in their claim. They also stipulated that there is no evidence that the county Board of Elections "counted ballots without signatures on the outer envelope." They also stipulated that they "do not allege, and there is no evidence, that any of the challenged ballots were cast by, or on behalf of, a deceased person."

#36 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-11-20 01:34 AM | Reply

The lawyers won't allege fraud because there are penalties for lying to a judge.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2020-11-20 01:50 AM | Reply

By now most of us have read Trump invited the top two Republicans in the MI legislature to the WH. Ostensibly to seek their aid to overturn MI election results. And election Biden won by 150,000 votes.

Why Michigan's Top Legislators Should Cancel that Meeting with Trump

The president can offer them whatever he wants to throw the election. If they take the deal, they'll be wide open to prosecution back home"and Trump can't protect them.

In his continuing quest to remain president despite having lost this month's election, President Donald Trump has been trying to wrest electoral votes away from Joe Biden in states that Biden won. Among the most aggressive tactics that the president might use is a direct appeal to the Republican-controlled legislatures of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to hand him those state's electoral votes.

On Thursday, the post-election narrative seemed to edge further down that path, as the Republican leaders of Michigan's two legislative chambers"Senator Mike Shirkey and Representative Lee Chatfield"agreed to take a meeting with the President in Washington tomorrow. Until that point Shirkey and Chatfield were signaling that they didn't intend to second-guess Michigan's voters, who chose Biden by more than 150,000 votes. But by taking the White House meeting, they indicated their possible openness to changing their minds.

Politically, it's possible that they see taking the meeting as a smart move, showing unhappy Michigan Republicans that they're on the president's side ... But in a more specific and immediate way, it threatens the two Michigan legislators, personally, with the risk of criminal investigation.

www.politico.com


#38 | Posted by americanunity at 2020-11-20 02:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Recounts in MI and WI found more uncounted Biden votes than tRump votes-clearly tRump rigged the election. Or maybe it was RudiGhouli given these outcomes.

#39 | Posted by northguy3 at 2020-11-20 04:34 PM | Reply

"Yup, that's what they've been saying lately because they quickly found out how little judges like being lied to."

So many "affidavit" signers backtracked in Court as soon as they realized perjury was a felony thing. They went from writing "I saw a truck full of fake ballots being delivered" to "my brother's neighbor's cousin's barber says he heard somebody saw something that might have been an envelope dropped somewhere near a polling station".
Still a step up from the suburban Karens claiming they couldn't watch ballots being counted because there were black people counting them.

#40 | Posted by northguy3 at 2020-11-20 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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