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Wednesday, November 25, 2020

President Trump pardoned on Wednesday his former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn, who had twice pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. about his conversations with a Russian diplomat and whose prosecution Attorney General William P. Barr tried to shut down. "It is my Great Honor to announce that General Michael T. Flynn has been granted a Full Pardon," Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter.

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Just wonderin' now that President Trump has pardoned Mike Flynn - which means that Flynn must accept that he was indeed guilty of the charges he faced - is his current counsel subject to any disciplinary action for lying to the Court in asserting under oath that he was indeed innocent of the same charges that he now admits he committed?

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-11-25 04:24 PM | Reply

Mr Flynn can now also be required to testify. Since he was pardoned, he cannot plead the 5th.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-11-25 04:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Mr Flynn can now also be required to testify. Since he was pardoned, he cannot plead the 5th.
#2 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Trump doesn't care. He will be issuing himself a pardon as his final act in office.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-11-25 05:17 PM | Reply

Trump doesn't care. He will be issuing himself a pardon as his final act in office.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce

It won't matter. NY state and Manhattan DA are rubbing their palms, awaiting his ouster from office. It's well documented Trump lied about the value of his properties to avoid taxes, but raised them for loan purposes, both felonies.

And after Trump's statements and lack of action on the pandemic in NY state, he hasn't made any friends there.

#4 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-11-25 05:26 PM | Reply

Obstruction of justice, part 1. Next move?

Traitors gotta trait.

#5 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-11-25 05:28 PM | Reply

He will be issuing himself a pardon as his final act in office.

I want Trump to leave office thinking that he has pardoned himself. Eventually the SCOTUS will have to judge whether or not the self pardon is constitutional. I don't believe that they will, inspite of him having appointed three justices. If they don't, he's got some serious federal legal issues coming his way. The safe play is to step aside and let Pence issue the pardon. If Trump issues a self pardon, Pence probably wouldn't play ball..

#6 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2020-11-25 05:28 PM | Reply

Trump doesn't care.

But history does. Flynn was a former military head of intelligence. He knew that Ambassador Kislyak's calls were under electronic surveillance by US Intel services including the FBI. Flynn was and is first and foremost a soldier - and soldiers follow orders.

Someone ordered Flynn to relay what he did to Kislyak and to then fall on his own sword, taking the heat for having done so. The House Intelligence committee can now subpoena Flynn and ask him specific questions that the Mueller team was unable to find adequate answers to.

And the same will go for every Trump official who accepts a pardon from this President as he's on the way out of the White House door. One thing for sure, due to the nature and subject matter of the anticipated pardons, there should be no outcry from those on the right over the needed inquiry of finding out why those pardoned committed the crimes they now have admitted to along with any others that may be covered under the pardon's language too.

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-11-25 05:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Obama wore a tan suit!!!!!!!

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-11-25 05:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

And the corruption continues until the very end.

#9 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-11-25 05:42 PM | Reply

Can you pardon someone via Tweet?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-11-25 05:42 PM | Reply

The safe play is to step aside and let Pence issue the pardon.

Then Pence immediately ends his own political career by implication in direct complicity with whatever crimes Trump wants to pardon himself for. Issuing the pardon is admission that Trump is indeed guilty, and then Pence himself decides to circumvent the People's criminal justice system with its penalties, replacing it all with his own singular judgment.

And again, if Trump accepts any pardon regardless, he is compelled to give honest testimony about the issues covered under said pardon, still subject to Perjury or the abdication of his pardon should he refuse to honestly testify.

Actually, Trump under oath with his freedom on the line is probably what I'd like to see almost as much as any trial - which he and his attorneys will turn into a circus by elevating Trump as the victim himself, instead of the suspect - or incarceration.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-11-25 05:47 PM | Reply

Obama fired Flynn and warned the Trump administration about him.

In 2013, while Flynn was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he took a delegation to Moscow "to speak to a group of officers from the G.R.U., Russia's intelligence agency, about leadership development." Although the C.I.A.'s chief of Russia operations at the time voiced concerns and skepticism about this controversial trip, Flynn told The Washington Post that he had a "great trip," even bragging about being "the first U.S. officer ever allowed inside the headquarters of the G.R.U." Flynn tried to go back for a second trip and invited G.R.U. officers to come to the U.S., but "permission was denied."

In February 2014, six months before the Obama administration fired Flynn, he traveled to Cambridge University as the head of D.I.A. to speak at the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar, an organization that last year was hit with allegations of being open to "unacceptable Russian influence," leading a group of intelligence experts"including the former head of MI-6"to cut ties with the group. He also met with a Russian-British national Svetlana Lokhova and he subsequently remained in email contact with Lokhova, an "expert on Soviet intelligence in the 1930s." The Wall Street Journal reported that, according to U.S. intelligence rules, Flynn should have disclosed his interactions with Lokhova, but he failed to do so.

themoscowproject.org

Then, there was the dinner in Russia where he sat next to Putin (also at table was Jill Stein).

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-11-25 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So... that's two turkeys Trump has pardoned this week.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2020-11-25 06:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't forget that Flynn was also part of a conspiracy to kidnap and rendition that cleric back to Turkey for Erdogan. I'm wondering if the statute of limitations has run on that state crimes in that case.

#14 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-11-25 06:26 PM | Reply

You can break the law as long as your White.

Ask this clown or the fella that sold Obama's Senate seat.

#15 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-11-25 06:37 PM | Reply

Or any of these guys:

www.motherjones.com

#16 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-11-25 06:41 PM | Reply

And you can't be pardoned for tax evasion.

OCU

#17 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-11-25 07:05 PM | Reply

Free the Tiger King!

#18 | Posted by Docman at 2020-11-25 07:18 PM | Reply

And you can't be pardoned for tax evasion.

Really? Why not?

#19 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-11-25 07:23 PM | Reply

The same people that voted for Trump and think he won the election - even now - don't care if he pardons himself and probably hope that he does. Hopefully, New York State nails him to the wall.

#20 | Posted by HeeHaw at 2020-11-25 07:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What an astounding, yet unsurprising, end to a vile presidency this is turning out to be.

#21 | Posted by cbob at 2020-11-25 08:25 PM | Reply

i see a lot of people say that..but acceptance of a pardon is not nessasarly an admittance of guilt..

www.washingtonpost.com

With that said, Michael Flynn should not have been pardoned.

#22 | Posted by Regnum at 2020-11-25 08:54 PM | Reply

For all Trump's bluster about being a 'law and order' president, pardoning someone who lied to the FBI twice - and admitted it twice - pardoning him makes all Trump's talk a stinky pile of --------.

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-11-26 12:59 AM | Reply

What a ------- TRump is. Pardons are for people wrongly convicted of crimes that did not commit or had sentences that did not match the crime and were rotting in prison because they were poor or a minority. TRump is a traitor.

#24 | Posted by tknees at 2020-11-26 10:03 AM | Reply

Unless there was a conviction, a pardon absolutely implies a confession of a crime. That's why I doubt Trump will go there, although it would be funny if he did. He can't just issue a blanket pardon for any and all potential crimes he might be prosecuted for. He would have to list the crimes he committed.

#25 | Posted by PussyFort at 2020-11-26 12:35 PM | Reply

If anyone is getting a pardon, it should be Ross Ulbricht.

#26 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-11-26 02:04 PM | Reply

Pardoned, eh? Pro tip to Gen. Flynn: get it in writing. Screen shots don't count...

#27 | Posted by catdog at 2020-11-26 03:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Imagine trump going out like Saddam as well as his Uday (Don Jr) and Qusay (Eric). It's quite fitting for that crime family.

#28 | Posted by jvel777 at 2020-11-27 03:22 AM | Reply

Trumpy should resign so Pence can pardon him.

Pass it around.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-11-27 01:02 PM | Reply

So... that's two turkeys Trump has pardoned this week.
#13 | POSTED BY CORKY

Minor correction.

3 turkeys ... Corn and Cob and Flynn

But only one of those Turkeys actually pleaded guilty to doing anything wrong. I think it's a stupid ceremony and a waste of taxpayers money and actually means nothing. Even for the Turkeys. They don't live long after the "pardon" because they were breed to get big and fat so they die shortly after being pardoned anyway.

So naturally, being as it was a meaningless ceremony, Trumpy insisted on participating.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-11-27 01:14 PM | Reply

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