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Monday, November 30, 2020

QAnon rhetoric has been seeping into anti-vax pages all over social media in recent months. Devoted adherents of the conspiracy theory have weathered tech giants' sweeping crackdowns by infiltrating other communities that exist on the platforms, then poisoning them with disinformation. This has transformed the large ecosystem of anti-vax communities online into radicalization pipelines for QAnon.

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In early February, members of [Larry] Cook's Facebook group urged a mother not to give her ill, unvaccinated 4-year-old son his doctor-prescribed antiviral medication, suggesting that she try thyme and elderberry instead, NBC News reported. She followed their advice; the boy died four days later.

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"She followed their advice; the boy died four days later"

And Larry Cook's group said it was said it was because she didn't do the elderberries right.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-11-30 12:24 PM | Reply

Wow. So, anti-vaxxers will be the cause of a sluggish herd immunity spread that will force countries to ban Americans until we finally get our ---- together.

Free-dumb strikes again.

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-11-30 12:54 PM | Reply

She followed their advice; the boy died four days later.

Darwin Award Winner by proxy?

#3 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-11-30 12:56 PM | Reply

You mean one group that thrives on fear and misinformation is able to influence another that thrives on those same things? Who woulda thunk it?

#4 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-11-30 01:12 PM | Reply

How very Antifa.

#5 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-11-30 01:19 PM | Reply

The to have been joined at the hip since last spring.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2020-11-30 01:26 PM | Reply

And the population of the Idgedots merged with the population of the
Flatheads, and there were many stupid children produced...

Book of Stupify: Chapter 1, verses 1-3...

#7 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-11-30 01:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wow. So, anti-vaxxers will be the cause of a sluggish herd immunity spread that will force countries to ban Americans until we finally get our ---- together.
Free-dumb strikes again.

#2 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Hopefully outside countries will put protocol in place where Americans may enter by providing proof of vaccination. We shouldn't all suffer for the stupid.

#8 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-11-30 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Wow. So, anti-vaxxers will be the cause of a sluggish herd immunity spread that will force countries to ban Americans until we finally get our ---- together.
Free-dumb strikes again.
#2 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11
Hopefully outside countries will put protocol in place where Americans may enter by providing proof of vaccination. We shouldn't all suffer for the stupid.
#8 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2020-11-30 02:09 PM | FLAG: (CHOOSE) | NEWSWORTHY 1

Being pro-mandatory inoculation and projecting long-term consequences seems "invested"..

#9 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-11-30 03:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#8 Hopefully outside countries will put protocol in place where Americans may enter by providing proof of vaccination.

I wondered why Delta is helping so much.

#10 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-11-30 04:09 PM | Reply

"I wondered why Delta is helping so much."

They're probably hooked up to some Kushner gravy train.
Or it could just be a PR move.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-11-30 04:14 PM | Reply

Qanon is the natural reaction to a government that has only served the rich and powerful for years.

The danger of Qanon is taking a real problem - rule by the elites - and then making it an insane conspiracy that makes morons vote for the con man who actually represents the rich

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-11-30 04:54 PM | Reply

Conspiracy theories and cults, peas and carrots

#13 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-11-30 05:32 PM | Reply

"Qanon is the natural reaction to a government that has only served the rich and powerful for years."

Sorry but that is baloney. Qanon is the results of crazy right wing radio and TV pushing conspiracy theories, funny thing about it, I don't know a single person who buys into Qanon because the people in my circle of family and friends aren't completely stupid. Only real idiots buy into Qanon or other similar conspiracy theories.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2020-12-01 08:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Sorry but that is baloney. Qanon is the results of crazy right wing radio and TV pushing conspiracy theories"

Firstly there is a difference between why it was created, why it was promoted, and why it was able to gain a foothold. Somebody posted an amazing BBC video about its origins maybe a month ago. It's not what you think. Required 15 minutes of your life to watch it so I understand that a lot of people couldn't sacrifice the time between rushing to post here. But you're completely off base as to why it was able to gain a foothold, and why Trump was able to gain traction among more reasonable people early on in his 2016 campaign. It wasn't about his dog whistle racist policies. Sure that was enough to exclude him from consideration by people who were never going to vote for him anyway, but it was the decades long bipartisan indifference to truly addressing the needs of working people who found themselves increasingly unable to improve their lives through hard work. Republicans may have always been pretty open about their contempt for the working class, by deed if not so much by word, but Democrats were always pre-loaded with excuses and scapegoats for why they couldn't achieve more than a modicum of assistance. Trump came in from outside and was the first person to talk about that. Remember in one of the 2016 primary debates where he talked about how he made campaign contributions to both Democrats and Republicans because he knew when they did they would take his call? None but a very few in politics ever spoke to the people that way. I'm not saying that his reasons for doing that weren't disingenuous, but millions of people in this country are, and have been for a long time, desperate for something to fundamentally change. For those people I can have a degree of sympathy; people in a tight spot often make bad choices. Flippantly writing off the reasons behind their bad choices will forever exclude your arguments from their further consideration. That's not what you want, that's not what any of us want, so I plead with you to reconsider your approach.

#15 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-12-01 11:12 AM | Reply

"Somebody posted an amazing BBC video about its origins maybe a month ago."

Is this the video you mean?:

Is QAnon a Game Gone Wrong?

Izabella Kaminska explains how QAnon stems from the worlds of online gaming and Playboy magazine. It's not a conspiracy. It's a way to hack reality.

drudge.com

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-12-01 11:28 AM | Reply

"It wasn't about his dog whistle racist policies. Sure that was enough to exclude him from consideration by people who were never going to vote for him anyway, but it was the decades long bipartisan indifference to truly addressing the needs of working people who found themselves increasingly unable to improve their lives through hard work. Republicans may have always been pretty open about their contempt for the working class, by deed if not so much by word, but Democrats were always pre-loaded with excuses and scapegoats for why they couldn't achieve more than a modicum of assistance."

I agree it wasn't just his racist dog whistling that made Trump attractive, but I think his appeal goes beyond a desire for economic opportunity/security as well. I just rewatched the above video and was reminded that QAnon's appeal is about a deeper quest for meaning and purpose, going so far as to dip into mythic waters (good vs evil, deep state cabals, hidden forces, time travel). In addition to mythic waters, Trump tapped into religious waters as well (they are related). That's one way of understanding the evangelical appeal of Trump as God's chosen leader:

Evangelical leaders have long talked of conspiracies against God's chosen

Trump's presidency brings together two lines of argument from some of these evangelical leaders through his rhetoric. First, God punishes America when Americans are unfaithful to his commandments. Second, Christianity is under attack. . . . Trump offered himself as an antidote to that fallen America and as a savior from the destruction. One way people came to accept that narrative is, I argue, through his use of conspiracy theories.

www.rawlinstimes.com

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-12-01 12:27 PM | Reply

That's one way of understanding the evangelical appeal of Trump as God's chosen leader

Trump's a hateful POS

Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.

1 John 2:9

"SOCIALISM is, in fact, a form of Christianity ---- people wishing to imitate Christ."

- Kurt Vonnegut

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-12-01 01:22 PM | Reply

"Is this the video you mean?"

Yes.

"I agree it wasn't just his racist dog whistling that made Trump attractive, but I think his appeal goes beyond a desire for economic opportunity/security as well."

I'm not suggesting otherwise, but taking away those for whom Trump's economic rhetoric were the only reason they supported him, people who skeptical about his racist rhetoric, and you have a President HRC.

#19 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-12-01 01:31 PM | Reply

Anti-Vaxers are for the most part science-denying idiots prone to believing conspiracy theories despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary. Qanon supporters are also science-denying idiots prone to believing conspiracy theories despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary; this seems like a match made in heaven!

#20 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-12-01 02:17 PM | Reply

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