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Friday, January 08, 2021

A United States Capitol Police officer died Thursday night from injuries sustained when he engaged with a pro-Trump mob that descended on the U.S. Capitol the day before. Officer Brian D. Sicknick died at about 9:30 p.m. on Thursday, the Capitol Police said in a statement. He had been with the agency since 2008. Mr. Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday and "was injured while physically engaging with protesters," the agency's statement said.

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A U.S. Capitol police officer injured during the violent pro-Trump insurrection in the halls of Congress has died, CNN reported Thursday.

My supporters are very fine people.

~ Bunker Bitch ~

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-01-07 07:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 11

The news came within an hour of U.S. Capitol Chief of Police Steven Sund announcing his resignation effective Jan. 16 following a breach of the Capitol not seen in more than 200 years. The 30-year police chief said authorities were not expecting violence from the mob that climbed the building's facade, broke into offices, and smeared feces on the walls after storming the halls of Congress to block the certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win.

Don't you dare call them deplorables.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-01-07 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

White privilege came back and bit many who weren't expecting to be victims of Trump's cult-mob, namely every Republican sans a handful in Congress. W's FBI reported before he left office that the greatest domestic threat to the United States was white supremacist activity and the GOP then threw a screaming fit claiming reverse racism to the point Obama's government had to shelve the recommendations when they tried to codify them into law.

And every day since this nation has seen the ongoing growth of this movement - now fueled and directed by the malevolence of Donald Trump and his megalomaniacal desires.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-07 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

All the associates of the person that caused the death of the cop are guilty as well.

A capital crime conviction wasn't the storm they were hoping for.

#4 | Posted by bored at 2021-01-07 08:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The officer was reportedly bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher by one of Trump's thugs as they stormed the Capitol.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2021-01-08 01:04 AM | Reply

Yeah, so does this death make several thousand people accessories to murder, including Donald Trump?

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-08 01:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Gotta watch out for those "law and order" fake Christians.... smearing ---- on the walls is the most they're able to contribute to society.

Atleast the mask is coming down and reasonable Republicans can see what they hitched their wagons too.

#7 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-01-08 01:37 AM | Reply

"The officer was reportedly bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher by one of Trump's thugs as they stormed the Capitol."

There were good people on both sides.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-08 01:40 AM | Reply

Why? What the hell is wrong with this picture?

A woman killed storming a secured area.

A cop bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher.

Trump should fry with the perps.

He's guilty too. Incitement of murder.

Not that the case could ever make.

One can hope though.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-01-08 02:12 AM | Reply

These are the people that Trump loves and thinks are very special?

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-01-08 02:22 AM | Reply

MAGA cop killers? Say it ain't so!

Guess those blue lives matter except when MAGAts kill them in the name of fake news.

#11 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-01-08 02:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

CHUFFY @ #11

They hit him in the head with a fire extinguisher. (reported by Rachael Maddow on MSNBC)

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-01-08 06:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Awesome so many here Back The Blue!

All it took was 1 MAGA protest.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-01-08 08:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Awesome so many here Back The Blue!"

Wanna give us a heads up how many threads you're going to ignore nuance and context in pushing this narrative?

#14 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2021-01-08 08:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wanna give us a heads up how many threads you're going to ignore nuance and context in pushing this narrative?

#14 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2021-01-08 08:12 AM | FLAG:

You have to have some fun with them temporarily not being pigs when it's convenient.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-01-08 08:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fire the Blue. They utterly failed at their job.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2021-01-08 08:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#15

Cops should have every right to crush right-wing activists because, first, they're wrong, and second, they're never peaceful.

But it's wrong to go after left-wing protesters, who are mostly peaceful. And the bad apples are more likely than not just right-wing infiltrators.

I'll wait for Snoofy to make any comments on this dead "Pig." I might be waiting a while.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-01-08 08:55 AM | Reply

"Yeah, so does this death make several thousand people accessories to murder, including Donald Trump?"

I would say definitely yes it does. I don't really see any way to come to any other conclusion.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 08:55 AM | Reply

"Awesome so many here Back The Blue!"

Normal people have always backed the police when they are behaving as law enforcement officers and not executioners for unarmed black men. That you don't recognize the difference indicates poor vision on your part.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 08:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Fire the Blue. They utterly failed at their job."

I find it hard to believe some, if not all, weren't complicit in this.

#20 | Posted by qcp at 2021-01-08 09:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I find it hard to believe some, if not all, weren't complicit in this.

#20 | Posted by qcp at 2021-01

It's too much to accept that some Capitol police let these traitors into the capitol and that Trump's Federal government refused the National Guard and other help come to the rescue while the building was building being attacked.

This was planned in advance. It was a coup attempt.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-08 09:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"I find it hard to believe some, if not all, weren't complicit in this."

I find it hard to believe that the officer who was murdered was complicit.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 09:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"It's too much to accept that some Capitol police let these traitors into the capitol and that Trump's Federal government refused the National Guard and other help come to the rescue while the building was being attacked"

I mean, really. Come on. Another "perfect storm" of accidents leading to death? I don't buy it.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-08 09:24 AM | Reply

What? Where is GraciJeffBoaztake NOW?

#24 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-01-08 09:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Where is GraciJeffBoaztake NOW?

#24 | Posted by e1g1 at

Hiding from police. You know that one or more of them were there.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-08 09:28 AM | Reply

America has to come to terms with the fact
that (if this happens again), it will NEED
to shoot to kill White People...

As a white male, I would like to say,
I am fine with it. Don't join an
Anti-American Mob, if you don't want to
die like a Slob...

As I have said repeatedly, the ONLY
thing that saved this from being much
more bloody, was White Privilege.

#26 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-01-08 09:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I find it hard to believe that the officer who was murdered was complicit.
#22 | POSTED BY DANNI

I don't.

The people who murdered him are the kind of people who wear "Kill 'em all, let G-d sort them out" t-shirts wheh they take their kids to an amusement park.

Fascists never think the other fascists will turn on them. For example, all the people who stormed the Capitol and feel betrayed by Trump.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-08 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I find it hard to believe some, if not all, weren't complicit in this.

#20 | POSTED BY QCP

We knew ahead of time this was going to happen. They told you what they were going to do. Trump ordered them to the capitol. It was all broadcast on TV. It was in the internet for weeks. They had T-shirt's made up for the occasion. We knew they were coming. We watched in horror as our capitol was ransacked by these thugs.

I believe guards some were complicit. Most were not. But some were obviously sympathetic.

Someone up the chain made decisions that made it possible for the crowds to penetrate the perimeter.

And then Backup was delayed. Just enough.

But this guy was a hero. I don't believe anyone who fought to keep them out was responsible for the breach.

Time to investigate the investigation and the investigators and get to the Oranges again.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-08 09:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Awesome so many here Back The Blue!

A cop was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher and you think you can score a cheap rhetorical point off of it about how it's wrong to ever criticize the police.

#29 | Posted by rcade at 2021-01-08 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

MAGAts have no respect for:

1. The American Flag;

2. Federal property / national monuments;

3. Law enforcement; and

4. Democracy.

#30 | Posted by anton at 2021-01-08 09:58 AM | Reply

"Fascists never think the other fascists will turn on them."

But you have no idea of what that cop believed in, don't call him a Fascist if you don't really know he was one. To me, he died doing his duty and the real Fascists that murdered him will hopefully spend the rest of their lives in federal prison.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 10:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There really is blood on trump's hands.

#32 | Posted by Tor at 2021-01-08 10:36 AM | Reply

The fact that someone like Schitsgreed incessantly promotes these intentionally obtuse comparisons, may put him up in BillyJ territory, in plonkville.

You know you are wrong you just want to be a stick in the bicycle spokes. You have absolutely nothing intellectually productive to contribute, masquerading around as someone looking to debate. I will state this once and if you fail to acknowledge it, I will fail to acknowledge your existence:

Police doing their duty correctly are honorable public servants

Police abusing their duty must be protested for the sake of our Republic

Police should not have the right to be jury and executioner, but they do. That is worth protesting

An angry mob motivated by unbelievably easily debunked lies are not the same as protesters fighting the right for police to act as jury and executioner, which they do, at a statistically often rate.

Dispute this, or agree, but this will likely be the last thing I see from you.

#33 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-08 10:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Awesome so many here Back The Blue!
All it took was 1 MAGA protest.
#13 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2021-01-08 08:04 AM | REPLY: | FLAG: GFY

#34 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-01-08 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#20 | Posted by qcp

There is no doubt in my mind they were not ALL complicit. Certainly at least a handful were. When you are out numbered 10 or more to 1 and your Commander in Chief won't allow the reinforcements in what do you do? They could have used more bullets... Even the guy I seen that allowed the selfie didn't seem happy about it.

Anyone who thought this group was any different than the select rioters that came out during BLM is a fool. At the BLM protests at least the majority of people were not rioters, thugs and looters and I am not aware of any that were calling it an insurrection or rebellion. I can't say the same for this group - in the days leading up to this they were calling for an insurrection, calling for rebellion and seeking to overturn the will of the people. Another thing, at the BLM protests there were people who tried to stop violence and looting. Didn't see any of that here. This was a mob bent on keeping Trump president - ala coup d'etat. What the people heading to DC for this rally sought was widely known in the days leading up to it.

#35 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-01-08 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

plonked

#37 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-08 11:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

This cop was one of 14 injured by Trump's mob:

"One woman was fatally shot when rioters breached the U.S. Capitol, and at least 14 officers were also wounded during the demonstrations, according to authorities. Two officers were hospitalized, including one who sustained serious injuries after he was pulled into a crowd and assaulted, police said."

www.foxnews.com

#38 | Posted by rcade at 2021-01-08 11:08 AM | Reply

For years now when the Traitor in Chief has been called reckless and dangerous, MAGATS have repeatedly dismissed much of Trump's most fascist, hateful statements by saying he's being sarcastic or he's joking. When sane people have called him a wannabe dictator the cult has cried sour grapes. Now here we are where his dangerous, fascist behavior, his grooming of a neckbeard army, has led to a failed coup and deaths. This has all been predicted for years by people who see him for what he is.

So I say this to all Trump supporters at this time when at least some of you are reconsidering your support of this man. Don't ever trust your judgement again. You have proven you are an easy mark. You have shown you lack sufficient empathy, critical thinking and or intelligence to see what should have been obvious all along. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and find someone who is not so easily fooled and ask them to take responsibility of your assets. Give them power of attorney because you should not trust yourself with life impacting decisions. Most importantly, no matter how certain you feel that you are right in your judgement NEVER VOTE AGAIN.

#40 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-01-08 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

All the associates of the person that caused the death of the cop are guilty as well.

A capital crime conviction wasn't the storm they were hoping for.

#4 | Posted by bored at 2021-01-07 08:28 PM | Reply

Y'all have to read about how "party to the crime of murder" works. Then we who were not there get to watch the facial-recognition software harvest co-conspirators!

#41 | Posted by john47 at 2021-01-08 11:14 AM | Reply

Donald Trump did the equivalent of falsely screaming "fire" in a crowded theater.

People died. Property destroyed. How is Trump not responsible for this?

#42 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2021-01-08 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

[...] "People died. Property destroyed. How is Trump not responsible for this?"

How are many of the elected Dem officials not responsible for the people who have died and the property destroyed by BLM protestors? This is why nothing ever happens. Not too long ago Dems were saying protesting in any way is American and protected, even after some of the BLM protests became violent. Now all of a sudden the tune has changed. Since Libs did absolutely NOTHING about the BLM problems, why would you have any expectation that responsibilities would all of a sudden be part of the Rep platform? The game Dems are playing is ridiculous, everything is OK unless you don't agree with it and then all of a sudden it's a major problem.

The fact that it wasn't just some of the public who were supporting BLM but it was elected, high-up officials supporting them is the problem. Now that the tables have turned, why would you expect any different kind of reaction from the other side?

#43 | Posted by humtake at 2021-01-08 11:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

JOHNNY HOTSAUCE, I've said this many times here, most of the idiots who voted for George W. Bush twice also voted for Trump but not Obama.

#44 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 11:38 AM | Reply

Humtake, did any Democratic politician tell BLM to riot? Trump did. Both sides are not the same no matter how many times you try to make that idiotic point. Also, I honestly don't remember deaths at BLM protests, maybe there were but I don't remember them. When the right protests and riots there are almost always deaths involved.

#45 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"I believe Liberals have said the use of the word thugs is racist, so DR is now joining in. Nice to see the unity."

Hey Sniper, somebody's challenging you for the title of Retort idiot. Don't let him take that title you've spent years defending away from you.

#46 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2021-01-08 11:46 AM | Reply

Trump, Don Jr. and Rudi Giuliani are guilty of being complicit to premeditated murder.

They instigated a combative riot that led to a man being beaten to death.

#47 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-01-08 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

""I believe Liberals have said the use of the word thugs is racist, so DR is now joining in. Nice to see the unity."

The word "thug" is not a racist term

noun
plural noun: thugs
1.
a violent person, especially a criminal.

#48 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-08 12:04 PM | Reply

I wonder if the police officer would have died had these been BLM protesters. I say that because it seems the police are a lot quicker to use violent force against protesters when they are black or liberals than they are against white conservatives. This officer might still be alive had he not been reluctant to use as much force as police seemingly are happy to use again blacks.

#49 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-01-08 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Awesome so many here Back The Blue!

All it took was 1 MAGA protest.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Or maybe they're just smarter than you and they have the brainpower to tell the difference between cops executing people for being black versus cops defending the capital from a mob of angry gullible morons incited by a lying con man.

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-08 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The fact that it wasn't just some of the public who were supporting BLM but it was elected, high-up officials supporting them is the problem. Now that the tables have turned, why would you expect any different kind of reaction from the other side?

#43 | Posted by humtake

The tables haven't turned.

Your stupid cult was trying to storm the capital and overturn and election because a lying con man told you to.

That's nothing like marching against the government executing minority citizens without consequence.

But that's the only talking point your cult has today -WHATABOUT BLM?! Whaaaaa!

It's too bad false equivalencies don't win elections or you'd never lose one.

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-08 12:38 PM | Reply

Trump & family were celebrating as they watched the mayhem at the Capitol

www.youtube.com

#52 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-08 12:39 PM | Reply

Do not for one second think that wednesday wasnt an attempted coup. That is what the magats are calling it. You MUST take them seriously

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#52

Well, that's one of the most sickening, disgusting things I've ever seem.

That video will live in infamy.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-08 12:48 PM | Reply

seen, dammit!

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-08 12:49 PM | Reply

Similar circumstances require similar actions:
www.bing.com

Murder Merch:
www.bing.com

#56 | Posted by LesWit at 2021-01-08 12:49 PM | Reply

Maybe so:

More zip ties... They're were planning an execution like Michigan

#DomesticTerrorism
#DomesticTerrorist

twitter.com

#57 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 01:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#57 Another "zip tie" photo which has been circulating in case anyone missed it:

@LindseyGrahamSC refuses to #impeach Trump for inciting the deadly #CapitolRiots mob that killed a Capitol Police officer and invaded House and Senate chambers with seditionists like this looking for hostages.

twitter.com

#58 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 01:14 PM | Reply

Federal murder investigation to be opened in Capitol Police officer's death

Prosecutors in the US Attorney's office plan to open a federal murder investigation into the death of Brian D. Sicknick, a US Capitol Police officer who died Thursday night, a law enforcement official tells CNN.

www.cnn.com

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-08 01:21 PM | Reply

@LindseyGrahamSC refuses to #impeach Trump for inciting the deadly #CapitolRiots mob that killed a Capitol Police officer
#58 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Of course he refuses. In order to do so he would have to admit his own responsibility in enabling the sociopath in chief.

#60 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-01-08 01:38 PM | Reply

LindseyGrahamSC refuses to #impeach Trump

Why would he?

I find it very amusing how Democrats suddenly believe Republicans have had a change of heart since Wednesday's riots.

If anything. Republicans saw just how much power they have over Americans.

Next time, they won't be so careless. They will overthrow our government.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 01:43 PM | Reply

"Next time, they won't be so careless. They will overthrow our government."

They would have overthrown it this time if Democrats didn't control the House. I firmly believe that.

#62 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 01:47 PM | Reply

"I find it very amusing how Democrats suddenly believe Republicans have had a change of heart since Wednesday's riots."

Do Democrats believe that? I don't think so. None that I know or know of.

#63 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 01:49 PM | Reply

"I find it very amusing how Democrats suddenly believe Republicans have had a change of heart since Wednesday's riots."
Do Democrats believe that? I don't think so. None that I know or know of.

#63 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY A

Then why are they waiting for the republicans to take care of -------? Why are the waiting on the Executive Branch to take action? Why are they not IMMEDIATELY taking every action in their power?

Once again, democrats are waiting for republicans to do the right thing and once again they are forgetting that they have the power in their own hands.

If ------- sending his army to kill them doesn't get them to act, I sincerely do not know what will.

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What should Democrats in Congress do?

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:06 PM | Reply

Pelosi spoke to Miley about the nuclear codes. Three members of the House have drafted article so impeachment and gotten over 100 members to sign on so far, but as I understand it, impeachment takes time, even an expedited version of it:

How expedited impeachment works: member brings privileged resolution to House floor to bypass normal impeachment rules. Vote takes place in a matter of days. Not in an hour, not overnight. This is how it works when expedited, otherwise it would take many weeks at a bare minimum.

twitter.com

#66 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:10 PM | Reply

What should Democrats in Congress do?

They should have all members of Congress who supported and partook in the coup - From claiming there was voter fraud to calling Biden's win illegitimate - Arrested and charged with sedition.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#67 Okay, how do they go about doing that?

#68 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:13 PM | Reply

What should Democrats in Congress do?

#65 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

at 3 PM today, Pelosi should call for an up or down vote that ------- should be impeached for sedition. Simple majority vote

the HoR sets their own rules on impeachment. The evidence is simple. -------'s sent his army to kill them.

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pelosi should instruct the United States Capitol Police to round up all the senators and representatives and have them incarcerated until there can be a hearing to determine how much prison time they're will be serving.

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 02:16 PM | Reply

The other day I listened to a local radio call in show and two of the women had their hair on fire demanding the Democrats in Congress do something immediately to stop. I get it why their hair is on fire, I really do, but what I don't know is what Democrats can do to stop Trump today, let along the GOP immediately, today. Not without Republican cooperation. Pence and Trump's cabinet could have done it yesterday, but when Pelosi and Schumer called him to request he use the 25th Amendment, he didn't bother to return their calls.

#71 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:17 PM | Reply

to round up all the senators and representatives *who partook in calling the election results fraudulent and claiming Democrats were stealing the election*...

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 02:18 PM | Reply

Yep, there is "Nothing We Can Do"(tm)

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:18 PM | Reply

he other day I listened to a local radio call in show and two of the women had their hair on fire demanding the Democrats in Congress do something immediately to stop. I get it why their hair is on fire, I really do, but what I don't know is what Democrats can do to stop Trump today, let along the GOP immediately, today. Not without Republican cooperation. Pence and Trump's cabinet could have done it yesterday, but when Pelosi and Schumer called him to request he use the 25th Amendment, he didn't bother to return their calls.

#71 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT

hahahahahahahahahaha, i find it hilarious that anyone expects anything different

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:19 PM | Reply

#70 Does she have the authority to do that? If she did, would that help the situation? Or would it further inflame not just Trump's base but Republican voters in general?

#75 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:20 PM | Reply

"hahahahahahahahahaha, i find it hilarious that anyone expects anything different"

I'm not sure they expected him to return the call, but they wanted to be on the record as having made it.

#76 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:21 PM | Reply

It is simple

Simple up or down vote on Impeaching -------

Immediately send articles to McConnell. If he doesn't act, the instant Schumer takes control of the Senate resend the articles. Schumer calls for a immediate trial.

It is that simple

#77 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:21 PM | Reply

IDGAF WHAT REPUBLICANS THINK OR HOW HIS BASE WILL REACT. ------- TRIED TO OVERTHROW OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Although if Pence truly was angry that Trump put his life at risk on Weds., they might have thought it was at least worth asking him.

#79 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:23 PM | Reply

I'm not sure they expected him to return the call, but they wanted to be on the record as having made it.

#76 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

why?

The constitution gives the executive branch power AND it gives the legislative branch power. All i see is the legislative branch waiting for hte republicans and the executive branch to do something

#80 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:23 PM | Reply

Although if Pence truly was angry that Trump put his life at risk on Weds., they might have thought it was at least worth asking him.

#79 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

------- tried to kill him and it wont change him.

THere is NO reason to wait on or worry about what Pence will or wont do. the legislative branch has the power, they should use that power immediately

#81 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"IDGAF WHAT REPUBLICANS THINK OR HOW HIS BASE WILL REACT. ------- TRIED TO OVERTHROW OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!"

I don't think it will be helpful to inflame and radicalize more people than are already radicalized. I think CS's suggestion would do that:

"Pelosi should instruct the United States Capitol Police to round up all the senators and representatives and have them incarcerated until there can be a hearing to determine how much prison time they're will be serving."

Your suggestion is better:

"at 3 PM today, Pelosi should call for an up or down vote that ------- should be impeached for sedition. Simple majority vote
the HoR sets their own rules on impeachment. The evidence is simple. -------'s sent his army to kill them."

Hardcore Trumpers will be more inflamed, but there is a segment of GOP voters who I think were appalled by what happened on Weds. and would understand the need for such an action.

My 2 cents.

#82 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:28 PM | Reply

"the legislative branch has the power, they should use that power immediately"

Okay, they do this:

"at 3 PM today, Pelosi should call for an up or down vote that ------- should be impeached for sedition. Simple majority vote
the HoR sets their own rules on impeachment. The evidence is simple. -------'s sent his army to kill them."

And then what happens? Sincerely asking here as I don't know.

#83 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:30 PM | Reply

"It is simple
Simple up or down vote on Impeaching -------
Immediately send articles to McConnell. If he doesn't act, the instant Schumer takes control of the Senate resend the articles. Schumer calls for a immediate trial.
It is that simple"

How fast is Schumer going to take control? Again, sincerely asking.

#84 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:32 PM | Reply

I read that Warnock(?) can't be sworn in until after the GA vote is certified which won't be until something like January 15th. But I don't know if that is accurate.

#85 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't think it will be helpful to inflame and radicalize more people than are already radicalized.

Gal, you have to understand that the people being inflamed and radicalized do not view the world, ------- or what happened on wednesday in the same way you and i do. in fact, their world view is completely at odds with our view (and facts for that matter). Nothing that congress does would change their reaction (aside from giving into -------). these are a group of people that cannot be reasoned with since they are not basing their reason on facts, they are basing their reasoning on their skewed perception of patriotism and insane conspiracy theories.

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And even if Dems get 50 senators sworn it, can Schumer be Senate leader before Harris is sworn in as VP, to be the tie breaking vote?

#87 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:34 PM | Reply

Gal.

Why are you concerned with upsetting Republicans when the die hard ones were storming the capitol building Wednesday?

Arrest them. And keep arresting anyone who threatens our government until none are left.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 02:35 PM | Reply

#86, No, I think I do understand. I just don't think--or at least I hope--not all 74 million people who voted for Trump fall into that category.

#89 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:37 PM | Reply

I believe that Schumer doesn't take control until Biden (and thus Harris) is inaugurated making Harris the tie breaker.

Once Pelosi sends over the articles, McConnell sets up a Senate Trial, obviously ------- will not be removed before the 20th, that is probably impossible, though perhaps a trial could be set up immediately, there are probably procedures in the Senate that are inviolate. But who knows, McConnell is pissed and he is seemingly able to do stuff. Given it is unprecedented that the president commits sedition, perhaps some unprecedented action could be taken by the Senate for an expedited senate trial. I can't imagine it is in the intent of the Constitution to allow a seditionist to remain in the White House.

#90 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:38 PM | Reply

"Why are you concerned with upsetting Republicans when the die hard ones were storming the capitol building Wednesday?"

I'm not concerned with upsetting the die hard ones as they are beyond appeals to reason and reality.

#91 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:39 PM | Reply

"Hardcore Trumpers will be more inflamed, but there is a segment of GOP voters who I think were appalled by what happened on Weds. and would understand the need for such an action."

You're worried about voters right now?

The time will never get any better than right now to act without fear of the voters.

#92 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-08 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I don't think it will be helpful to inflame and radicalize more people than are already radicalized.

and gal, that is why and how leaders lead. The 74million are not going to be swayed by one or two actions or speeches, but showing strength in response to tyranny will sway them.

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:40 PM | Reply

"But who knows, McConnell is pissed and he is seemingly able to do stuff. Given it is unprecedented that the president commits sedition, perhaps some unprecedented action could be taken by the Senate for an expedited senate trial. I can't imagine it is in the intent of the Constitution to allow a seditionist to remain in the White House."

So, you think Mitch might be open to dethroning Trump when Mike isn't? Well, Elaine is resigning from the administration effective Monday . . . .

#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:42 PM | Reply

"and gal, that is why and how leaders lead. The 74million are not going to be swayed by one or two actions or speeches, but showing strength in response to tyranny will sway them."

Gotcha. Please reread my previous post. I didn't say don't act. I said be smart in your actions:

I don't think it will be helpful to inflame and radicalize more people than are already radicalized. I think CS's suggestion would do that:

"Pelosi should instruct the United States Capitol Police to round up all the senators and representatives and have them incarcerated until there can be a hearing to determine how much prison time they're will be serving."

Your suggestion is better:

"at 3 PM today, Pelosi should call for an up or down vote that ------- should be impeached for sedition. Simple majority vote
the HoR sets their own rules on impeachment. The evidence is simple. -------'s sent his army to kill them."

Hardcore Trumpers will be more inflamed, but there is a segment of GOP voters who I think were appalled by what happened on Weds. and would understand the need for such an action.

My 2 cents.

#95 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:45 PM | Reply

Once again, Gal, the democrats and the legislative branch can do what they can do. Pelosi cannot do McConnell's job or Pence's job. She can do what she can do. Impeach the bastard. Then it is up to us, the voters, to make it clear to every senator what their duty is.

#96 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:46 PM | Reply

"but showing strength in response to tyranny will sway them."

You don't think that taking these actions:

"Pelosi should instruct the United States Capitol Police to round up all the senators and representatives and have them incarcerated until there can be a hearing to determine how much prison time they're will be serving."

might not strike people as tyranny coming from the left?

#97 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:48 PM | Reply

ask clown, i only defend my own words

#98 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:48 PM | Reply

I'll wait for Snoofy to make any comments on this dead "Pig." I might be waiting a while.
#17 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

If only that would shut you up.
If only!

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-08 02:49 PM | Reply

Once again, I will state that it is a huge mistake to underestimate the danger to our democracy right now.

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I believe that Schumer doesn't take control until Biden (and thus Harris) is inaugurated making Harris the tie breaker.

No, Congress' term began on January 1st. Chuck Schumer will become Majority Leader when Georgia certifies the election results of the runoffs - allowing the new Senators to be sworn in - which is not going to happen until after January 20th because they can still accept mailed military ballots until the 17th I believe. It has nothing to do with Biden.

What's going on right now is that some Republicans are trying to put Trump's removal into a political context when his removal is about CONSTITUTIONAL principles that he's not only failed to uphold but has openly tried to destroy. Removing Trump is about protecting the nation from his pathological nature which has already led to the pillaging of the US Capitol and the deaths of 5 people and the injury of many others.

It does not matter what party or ideology Trump espouses, it only matters that he is a clear and present danger to the safety and security of this nation every single second that he maintains the title and powers of the US presidency. If our elected representatives cannot climb and place their flag upon THIS HILL, they have no further business or legitimacy doing the people's business upon Capitol Hill. Anything less is a failure to uphold the oaths they just took again a scant 7 days ago.

#101 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-08 02:50 PM | Reply

"Once again, Gal, the democrats and the legislative branch can do what they can do. Pelosi cannot do McConnell's job or Pence's job. She can do what she can do. Impeach the bastard. Then it is up to us, the voters, to make it clear to every senator what their duty is."

Let's see what happens. The table is being set:

Ted Lieu @tedlieu

The Articles of Impeachment, drafted by Rep @davidcicilline, @RepRaskin and me now has 130 cosponsors. We specifically drafted the Articles with a goal of gaining GOP support. We urge Republicans to join us. This is not partisan, it's about America.

twitter.com

Everyone who supports this action should call their representative and senators. ASAP.

#102 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:51 PM | Reply

The time will never get any better than right now to act without fear of the voters.

Actually. This couldn't be anymore on the money.

Today's actions need to be made, in order to send a message to politicians in the future, that America isn't home for fascism.

As far as the voters. They'll forget what's happening today by the time February comes around.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 02:52 PM | Reply

"No, Congress' term began on January 1st. Chuck Schumer will become Majority Leader when Georgia certifies the election results of the runoffs - allowing the new Senators to be sworn in - which is not going to happen until after January 20th because they can still accept mailed military ballots until the 17th I believe. It has nothing to do with Biden."

Thanks for the clarification, Tony.

#104 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:56 PM | Reply

Tony, with a 50-50 the majority would go with who the VP is, correct?

#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-08 02:57 PM | Reply

FYI:

Ryan Grim @ryangrim

NEW: Joe Biden is supportive of the move to impeach President Trump, Cedric Richmond has told members of Congress, according to sources with knowledge of those conversations.

#106 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 02:58 PM | Reply

#105 In the case of a tie vote in the Senate, the Vice President casts the deciding vote.

The Vice President is also the President of the Senate. Which is why all those Senators were saying "Mr. President" to Mike Pence on Wednesday night.

Happened a few times under W, as I recall. Cheney was the tiebreaker.

#107 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-08 03:00 PM | Reply

I don't think it will be helpful to inflame and radicalize more people than are already radicalized. I think CS's suggestion would do that:

You think Pelosi sending in the USCP to arrest politicians who have been calling for sedition will radicalize people who literally stormed the capitol building?

You're worried about the opinions of people who deny covid is dangerous? Who think Trump won the election? Who see liberals as the enemy?

If nothing is done to the political leaders, we're only providing them with time to restructure and try again.

We'd be telling them there's no consequences to their actions. So. Second time is the charm? If not 3rd time definitely will be.

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 03:01 PM | Reply

#78

Exactly!

Is there rule of law, or not? That's the core issue. Enforce the laws or there will be greater problems to come. Here is a pristine moment to signal to Americans that the laws apply to all equally... no matter one's title, income, popularity, religion, politics, or ramifications to anyone... justice equally to all!

IMO, if ever there was a precipice, we are on it NOW!

#109 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2021-01-08 03:04 PM | Reply

Joe Biden is supportive of the move to impeach President Trump

"Oh nooooooooooo! Not again! What ever will I do."
-Trump

Joe Biden should support sending Trump to Guantanamo.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 03:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#105

Yes, VP Kamala Harris would cast the tiebreaking votes so let me correct myself. January 20th is indeed the first time that Chuck Schumer can become the Majority Leader.

And further clarification, I just read that Raffensperger has now stated that he believes he will deliver certification to Congress by January 20th, so that indeed is targeted as the day the Democrats gain control of all three elective branches of federal government.

#111 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-08 03:09 PM | Reply

In all honesty, I just hope the impeachment puts enough pressure on him to resign. I seriously hope he is cutting deals right now.

#112 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-08 03:09 PM | Reply

"You think Pelosi sending in the USCP to arrest politicians who have been calling for sedition will radicalize people who literally stormed the capitol building?"

Who did you have in mind? I couldn't tell from your previous comment which was rather sweeping in scope:

"Pelosi should instruct the United States Capitol Police to round up all the senators and representatives and have them incarcerated until there can be a hearing to determine how much prison time they're will be serving."

#113 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 03:09 PM | Reply

I seriously hope he is cutting deals right now.

Dude. Fffk cutting a deal.

Trump has literally damaged our nation.

He belongs in prison.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 03:14 PM | Reply

Trump belongs on a scaffold.

I don't support the death penalty, but I see the value in applying it to a treasonous head of state.

#115 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-08 03:19 PM | Reply

Who did you have in mind? I couldn't tell from your previous comment which was rather sweeping in scope:

Sorry. I realized that after I wrote it and (halfass) amended it in #72.

So the whole sentence should read:

"Pelosi should instruct the United States Capitol Police to round up all the senators and representatives, who partook in calling the election results fraudulent and claimed Democrats were stealing the election, and have them incarcerated until there can be a hearing to determine how much prison time they're will be serving."

Obviously I'm more insouciant towards the feelings of Trump supporters.

Most of them need could use 4 years of high school level science classes.

#116 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-08 03:22 PM | Reply

"he belongs in prison."

I don't disagree and SDNY might have something to say about that, but if he's resigning, deals are being cut. I'd rather he go away and not be allowed to run for any sort office than to worry about prosecuting him and having a mob takeover in a random city or state capital every single week.

#117 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-08 03:28 PM | Reply

To be clear, this is not the time for a kombi moment for the sake of unity. I'm for impeaching Trump:

Jake Tapper @jaketapper
Been spreading lies about the election for months, voted to disenfranchise millions in Arizona and Pennsylvania, but bygones amirite.

Kevin McCarthy @GOPLeader

Impeaching the President with just 12 days left will only divide our country more. I've reached out to President-elect Biden today & plan to speak to him about how we must work together to lower the temperature & unite the country to solve America's challenges.

#118 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 03:33 PM | Reply

PS I wish he would resign and hope he ends up in prison along with all of his co-conspirators.

#119 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 03:35 PM | Reply

A real man who died with his boots on in the performance of his duty. I hope the Congressmen and Congresswomen appreciate what he did for them.

#120 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-08 04:20 PM | Reply

You stupid, gutless bastard:

@CNN reporting Kevin McCarthy frantically called Trump while the Capitol was under siege and asked him to have his supporters back off. A shouting match ensued. Trump refused.

Hours later @GOPLeader nonetheless played along with voting for Trump's attempted coup.

twitter.com

#121 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-08 04:27 PM | Reply

Hopping in here to offer this 2 cents:

I don't consider it a failed coup, I consider it a practice run. It was very successful in advancing Putin's objectives, in the very least.

#122 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-01-08 04:35 PM | Reply

You don't cut deals with Trump. His history of disregarding deals makes him extremely high risk to deal with.

As long as he breathes he'll never stop "fighting"... or shut his mouth.

He never was able to fill the shoes of the office. We shouldn't have to provide him taxpayer protection until his last gasp!

#123 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2021-01-08 04:44 PM | Reply

Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick who died after pro-Trump riot was veteran and war critic

The U.S. Capitol Police officer who died Thursday from injures he suffered during the pro-Trump riot that breached the U.S. Capitol was both a veteran and war critic, and the youngest of three sons from New Jersey.

Brian D. Sicknick, 42, was a South River native who served in the New Jersey Air National Guard, but later lamented America's war in Iraq. Praise for his service poured infrom family and elected officials Friday, and neighbors and coworkers recalled fond memories of his compassionate behavior, "kind face" and love of fishing.

www.usatoday.com

#124 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-08 05:01 PM | Reply

The Proud Boys/Boogalosers/White Nationalists and the Cops are like the fable of the frog and the scorpion, the scorpion won't sting the frog as long as it sees a use for the him. As soon as their paths diverge, the frog is dead. The vast majority of police murders over the past 20 years when a political ideology for the suspect could be perceived, have been committed by right wing terrorists. I'm not aware of any police murders by the far left (Antifa). If you disagree, cite some cases, I'll be happy to educate myself. Cops need to wake up, you can't trust them!

#125 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-01-08 05:42 PM | Reply

Impeaching the President with just 12 days left will only divide our country more. I've reached out to President-elect Biden today & plan to speak to him about how we must work together to lower the temperature & unite the country to solve America's challenges.

Kevin McCarthy, just like other Republican scum, lost and now are saying 'can't we get along? pretty please?'

F**k them all to hell. I know Biden wants to unite, and maybe there are some in the U.S. that want to unite, and even feel like we need to do this like we did after the Civil War, but quite frankly that didn't work out. Nor did reconciling and pardoning Nixon work out.

Say whatever but work to crush them where it actually matters.

#126 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-08 05:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 there are no reasonable republicans, if there were they've left.
never vote for *any republican.

#127 | Posted by ichiro at 2021-01-08 06:24 PM | Reply

#126 this uniting stuff is total folly, any remaining republicans are nothing but dirty tricksters, criminals most likely.

#128 | Posted by ichiro at 2021-01-08 06:26 PM | Reply

is there no acquired video evidence to id the assailant?

#129 | Posted by ichiro at 2021-01-08 06:57 PM | Reply

The behavior of Capitol Police is exactly like Paul Ryan's favorite band explained!

Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses

#130 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-08 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Which is why all those Senators were saying "Mr. President" to Mike Pence on Wednesday night.

President Pro Tempore of the Senate.

When the VP isn't acting as such, it's a sitting Senator. Chuck Grassley held that position until this Congress.

#131 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-08 07:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Great song from a great band! Disbanded and still relevant. THX.

#132 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2021-01-08 07:53 PM | Reply

RATM!

So F**king relevant!
Especially after George Floyd's murder.

#133 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-08 08:47 PM | Reply

Donald Trump stood down when the Pentagon was being attacked. He is desperate and cannot lose the Presidency. What would happen tomorrow if Russia attacked and Trump stood down? This is not over.

#134 | Posted by iloveyou at 2021-01-09 01:15 AM | Reply

Correction... Capitol.

#135 | Posted by iloveyou at 2021-01-09 01:16 AM | Reply

It is very easy to cherry-pick pictures and videos and manipulate context to make these stupid apples to oranges comparisons but you are all wrong Having worked the front lines of many protests and riots, I can tell you, how officers treat protesters has nothing to do with protester demographics or ideology. They are trying to do their jobs and maintain order and peace. Force is almost entirely dictated by the actions and behavior of the protesters. Peaceful protesters who obey the laws and terms of their permit will be treated respectfully. As soon as protesters cross the line threatening property and safety, those individuals become the "bad guys"and the officers don't give a ---- which side they are on.

The other factor is Command directives. The guys with the stars and bars are very reactionary. If the press beats them up for being too aggressive during one incident, they will be too passive next time. If police suit up in riot gear, they will be blamed for inciting further violence by virtue of their aggressive posture and costume. If they come in low key in their dress blues, they will be criticized for being unprepared and. It taking the situation seriously. It is always a no win situation for police officers.
P

#136 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-01-09 09:06 AM | Reply

--------.

It's been all over the news. The inherent prejudice and systemic racism caused the difference in policing and this breakdown in protection.
The Capitol Police leadership viewed these people as them, not really dangerous, more like a crowd at a football game Friday night in Iowa. Homophily.

They turned down multiple offers for help and backup before this. They chose not to approach this, even though they'd never let such a lapse happen with other protests. They couldn't (or wouldn't) perceive the actual threat. The reason why is blatantly obvious - and even some in the Press are admitting the same feelings were in them.

This Officer's death is on the leadership of the Capitol Police and Trump and his radicalized followers. I hope the person that did this is found and charged with murder, and I sincerely hope Trump is likewise charged. The Capitol Police's Sund should be charged with negligent homicide as a result.

#137 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-09 09:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"It's been all over the.news" Yeah, that makes it true.....You know nothing about police procedure or DC law enforcement jurisdiction, or how deployment and enforcement decisions are made. The media plays on your ignorance to pump their inherent prejudice and systemic bias crap into your pliable brain, because putting that crap "all over the news" sells ad space. If you think that enforcement decisions are being made based on "systemic racism" even now, after all the scrutiny placed on law enforcement over the last year, you are not a critical thinker. The media has blood on their hands for continually pumping out a false narrative that inflames and incites people on both sides to violence.

#138 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-01-09 10:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#138 - ---- off. You have no idea what I know about police procedure. You have no idea what I actually know, or what I've experienced.

You tried to play off being someone that has special knowledge on an anonymous blog. You're nothing here. Anecdotes are just that.

#139 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-09 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I love how the "Libertarians" are always the ones who think they know the most about government.

It reminds me of Freshmen who take a 101 class in anything and think they are an expert.

#140 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-09 11:02 AM | Reply

#138 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-01-09 10:18 AM | Reply

All you had to do was visit Parler or other right-wing sites to know this was going to happen. They were planning this in the open and law enforcement knew, or should have known, the groups who were showing up on Jan 6 were dangerous and more than happy to commit violence against anyone they perceive as an enemy. They publicly discussed "executing" members of Congress.

This wasn't some peaceful protest that got out of hand. This was an armed insurrection, planned in the open, and it was met with underwhelming response. There was zero reason not to have the NG or other entities ready to actively support even if they were simply kept in the background until needed.

#141 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2021-01-09 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The media has blood on their hands for continually pumping out a false narrative that inflames and incites people on both sides to violence.
#138 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Complete and utter bull ----.

Media relayed facts to these idiots. They CHOSE to ignore the facts that there was not systemic, wide spread fraud did not occur. The only false narrative being offered came from Trump and his cronies; outright lies that the election was stolen away from them. The violence was fomented by Trump, quite clearly.

It's that simple, yet, for whatever reason, you TOO choose to ignore basic reality.

Why is that?

#142 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-09 09:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yay, it is clear that you know absolutely nothing about police procedure. it is very easy for those with experience in any field to discern the difference between the pretenders and those with actual knowledge. As for me, I have nothing to prove and I don't care what you believe about me. I am happy to engage and share my experiences with those who have a sincere interest in exploring different viewpoints.

#143 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-01-09 09:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Media....facts....these two words do not belong in,the same sentence. Are you forgetting that the media is ENTIRELY motivated by ratings? Have you never heard the expression, "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.?"

#144 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-01-09 09:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Are you forgetting that the media is ENTIRELY motivated by ratings?"

Thanks, Capitalism!

It's also not entirely true. The Christian Science Monitor isn't motivated by racism.

They're motivated by... how can I put this lightly? A religious quack's desire to know the truth.

#145 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-09 09:37 PM | Reply

I suddenly realized that Rustybeach has taken this discussion in an entirely different direction than the context of my post., I want to be clear, I do not believe the election was stolen. I am not a Trumo supporter. My comment here about the media having blood on their hands is about the lie that "systemic racism" is the root cause of police shootings.

#146 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-01-09 09:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yay, it is clear that you know absolutely nothing about police procedure. it is very easy for those with experience in any field to discern the difference between the pretenders and those with actual knowledge. As for me, I have nothing to prove and I don't care what you believe about me. I am happy to engage and share my experiences with those who have a sincere interest in exploring different viewpoints.

It's YAV, not "Yay" and you know nothing about me and my experiences.
For someone that has nothing to prove you're spending a lot of time proving how you supposedly know so much.
Also I'm not pretending about a thing. Do you think you're clever bringing in that strawman about police procedures would work?
It didn't. My posts are there for anyone to read. Don't assign a position to me I haven't articulated so you can tear it down and feel good about yourself.

#147 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-09 11:35 PM | Reply

Oh - and if you want to engage, drop the pretense. Drop the "I'm an expert" --------. I already told you here that means ZERO.

Tell us what you think the root cause of police shootings is.

I can't wait to hear.

#148 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-09 11:36 PM | Reply

People who have trouble discerning facts well-sourced media reports are likely only really getting their news from a few rwing echo chamber sources anyway.

It's been really pretty funny/sad seeing Nietzsche's perspectivism being what the rwing used to accuse the left of doing to it being the rwing's go to excuse for their abject stupidity.

en.wikipedia.org

#149 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-09 11:51 PM | Reply

facts from

#150 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-09 11:52 PM | Reply

Hippies and Black people were conspicuous by their absence in the Capitol on Wednesday.

#151 | Posted by john47 at 2021-01-10 12:40 PM | Reply

And yet some white guy was holding up a sign that said "Blacks for Trump!"

#152 | Posted by YAV at 2021-01-10 01:35 PM | Reply

My comment here about the media having blood on their hands is about the lie that "systemic racism" is the root cause of police shootings.
#146 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

That has nothing to do with media other than them reporting what's offered in academic journalism.

Take it up with the researchers who have uncovered massive evidence of systemic racism within the criminal justice system.

The fact you put systemic racism in quotes speaks volumes, BTW.

#153 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-10 06:09 PM | Reply

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