Advertisement

Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, January 12, 2021

President Trump on Monday privately - and falsely - blamed "Antifa people" for storming the Capitol, even though clear video and documentary evidence exists showing the rioters were overwhelmingly Trump supporters.

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

In a tense, 30-minute-plus phone call this morning with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Trump trotted out the Antifa line. McCarthy would have none of it, telling the president: "It's not Antifa, it's MAGA. I know. I was there," according to a White House official and another source familiar with the call.

The White House official said the call was tense and aggressive at times, with Trump ranting about election fraud and an exasperated McCarthy cutting in to say, "Stop it. It's over. The election is over."

Too little, too late.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-12 08:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fat Nixon's audience that he can lie to is shrinking by the hour.

If he honestly still believes the election was stolen and ANTIFA was the insurrectionists, how is he mentally capable of serving?

He's not mentally well.

Mike Pence, do what is right and invoke the 25th. He is a danger to everyone.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-01-12 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"In a tense, 30-minute-plus phone call"

Translation: Trump spent most of the time screaming.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-12 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Then why did TRump say he, "loved them all"?

#4 | Posted by tknees at 2021-01-12 10:51 AM | Reply

Yeah Trump has long history of peeing on people's legs and demanding they agree that it's raining.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2021-01-12 11:05 AM | Reply

Pull the other one Donnie.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2021-01-12 11:05 AM | Reply

"Then why did Trump say he, "loved them all"?

POSTED BY TKNEES

Good point.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-01-12 11:06 AM | Reply

Do you know that is true or is that an opinion.

#8 | Posted by Sniper at 2021-01-12 11:09 AM | Reply

From Donald Trump's twitter:

Dec 19 - "A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

Dec 29 - "See you in Washington, DC, on January 6th. Don't miss it. Information to follow!"

Jan 1 - "The BIG Protest Rally in Washington, D.C., will take place at 11.00 A.M. on January 6th. Locational details to follow. StopTheSteal!"
"January 6th. See you in D.C."

Jan 3 - Trump retweeted @JenLawrence21, an organizer of a March for Trump bus tour: "Now we will bring it to DC on Jan 6 and PROUDLY stand beside you!"

Go ahead and tell us again how it was antifa

#9 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-01-12 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Antifa wears masks.

MAGAts are too stupid to do that, even while committing crime on live TV, during a pandemic.

#10 | Posted by anton at 2021-01-12 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Lying LIAR got to lie.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-01-12 12:19 PM | Reply

Why the hell would 'antifa' try to keep a fascist in power?

#12 | Posted by arthurmann at 2021-01-12 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why the hell would 'antifa' try to keep a fascist in power?

Why even get close to that rabbit hole? Anyone with firing synapses understands that the whole purpose of antifa is to fight fascism with face-to-face counter force. It only plays into the notion that the MAGA crowd is so dumb that they'd claim to be infiltrated by an enemy trying to take them down - by doing exactly what MAGA does without any help from antifa at all.

And at the end, MAGA implying that antifa was behind the violence and criminality is an admission that even they know what was done was both criminal and wrong - even though their leader encouraged them to "fight" and to "stop the steal" through the use of their numbers and force.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-12 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you know that is true or is that an opinion.

#8 | Posted by Sniper

Why bother asking a question when you run away from the answer?

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-12 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

SO... Trump, Sarah Palin, Alex Jones, and Mythbomber all on the same page. It must be true!

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-12 01:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Do you know that is true or is that an opinion.

#8 | POSTED BY SNIPER

You don't want to know.

Run away coward. Go find a violent mob to join.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-12 01:20 PM | Reply

Do you know that is true or is that an opinion.

#8 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Being a Deplorable would you even know the difference between truth and opinion?

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-12 01:29 PM | Reply

"And to all of my wonderful supporters, I know you are disappointed, but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning."

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-12 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

incredible journey is only just beginning."

#18 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Personally, I don't think a "journey" that ends in federal prison is all that "incredible".

To each his own I guess.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-12 01:37 PM | Reply

This is NOT the fault of BLM or Antifa.

I'm getting really tired of this blame at Antifa and this whataboutism forwarded by Trump and his supporters, that BLM and/or Antifa caused violence and significant property damage over the summer, as it's being used as justification for the seditious acts of the extremist crowd of Trump supporters who forced their way into our U.S. Capitol on January 6th.

First to be clear, I believe as almost any reasonable person should, that violence and deliberate property damage should be prosecuted no matter who perpetrates the crime. And anyone who activity encourages others, by speech or actions to participate in violence and property damage, should also be prosecuted.

But I also believe in the 1st amendment right to peaceful protest or demonstration.

All of that to qualify what I'm about to say.

I believe blame against BLM/Antifa for the crimes committed during the protests of last year has been extremely exaggerated as justification by those same people that see no problem with the insurrection of Jan 6th, where there is little comparison. Most of the protests of last year were peaceful.

time.com

And of those protests that were not peaceful, a significant amount of the turmoil occurred after the actions of outside agitators to stir those protests. Sometimes those protests were agitated by the police directly. I also think it's likely that some of the outside agitators of last year are some of the very same people we saw last week.

www.jacksonville.com

kevinjshay44.medium.com

www.wsls.com

In some cases, these protests got far worse after our own POTUS specifically ordered federal agents into the area to crack down on the protestors.

www.theatlantic.com

www.reuters.com

www.cbc.ca

In one case, the POTUS specifically ordered federal agents to clear an area, just so he could cross to a church for a photo op.

www.npr.org

This passing the blame to those who had little to do with it must not continue. I believe this build up to where America currently finds itself has been quite deliberate. What we are experiencing now has almost certainly been by design.

www.newsday.com

We cannot allow these revisionists to use their fabricated claims about the actions of others to justify their rebellion. The situation that America finds itself in is sitting on a mountain of lies. These lies must be debunked and pushed back upon wherever we see them.

Lies about BLM.. lies claiming a fraudulent election.. something around 25,000 lies by the POTUS in 4 years. As history is written by the victor, if all or even most of these lies are allowed to stand, America is lost.

#20 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-01-12 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 11

@tony...

It was a rhetorical question. Check your synapses.

#21 | Posted by arthurmann at 2021-01-12 06:56 PM | Reply

Why the hell would 'antifa' try to keep a fascist in power?

#12 | Posted by arthurmann

Bingo

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-12 06:57 PM | Reply

It was a rhetorical question. Check your synapses.

They're fine. My point was why bother to ask a question based in logic to illogical, conspiracy-believing idiots?

Hence, my comment about "going down that rabbit hole," ie., you can't argue logic with people who need to be asked that rhetorical question.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-12 07:18 PM | Reply

"First to be clear, I believe as almost any reasonable person should, that violence and deliberate property damage should be prosecuted no matter who perpetrates the crime. And anyone who activity encourages others, by speech or actions to participate in violence and property damage, should also be prosecuted.

But I also believe in the 1st amendment right to peaceful protest or demonstration."

But that's the challenge, right?

For every person who stormed the Capitol building, how many others were there that couldn't attend...but would have liked to? What about the protesters outside who didn't enter the Capitol, but instead chose to stay outside and wave their flags? Are they peaceful protesters, or insurrectionists?

"In some cases, these protests got far worse after our own POTUS specifically ordered federal agents into the area to crack down on the protestors."

It would appear that you're in approval of the government not sending in reinforcements to the Capitol, as it may have only led to the protesters becoming even more agitated.

Is that the case? Would defunding the police have led to a better outcome at the Capitol?

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-01-12 10:47 PM | Reply

Finally a chance to compare and contrast Madbomber and Madscientist:

Trump is a lousy bum who incited a riot on the Capitol. Period.

#25 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-13 04:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The caucasity!

#26 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-01-13 07:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What about the protesters outside who didn't enter the Capitol, but instead chose to stay outside and wave their flags? Are they peaceful protesters, or insurrectionists?
#24 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Insurrectionists. Or at least they have crossed the line away from a "peaceful" protest. They broke through the barricades. They were illegally where they were not allowed to be. They broke the law. If you break the law, you should be charged.

And their breaking of the law was to the direct benefit of the insurrectionists. They might not have known exactly what they were complicit in, but ignorance and stupidity is not an excuse. If you are going to break the law, be prepared to face the consequences. If you are going to break the law, you should be careful about the type of people that you break it with.

#27 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2021-01-13 09:28 AM | Reply

Would defunding the police have led to a better outcome at the Capitol?
#24 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Although you clearly don't understand what people really mean when they talk about defunding the police, nobody ever suggested defunding the Capitol Police.

#28 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2021-01-13 09:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What about the protesters outside who didn't enter the Capitol, but instead chose to stay outside and wave their flags? Are they peaceful protesters, or insurrectionists?
#24 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Good question. Did they choose to support a deadly insurrection that ended in murder?

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 09:59 AM | Reply

Are they peaceful protesters, or insurrectionists?
#24 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You tell us.

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103"322, title XXXIII, 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 10:04 AM | Reply

Maybe this will help you figure it out

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection lagainst the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103"322, title XXXIII, 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 10:11 AM | Reply

Antifa was not involved, but we already knew that. Trump is literally, physically incapable of honesty. At least in regard to anything that matters, and even on most things that don't. How can anyone at this point be stupid enough not to see this? You have to have the IQ of a turd kernel to believe otherwise. Might as well march around with a flag that says "I'm a hopeless moron" instead of a Trump flag.

#32 | Posted by cbob at 2021-01-13 12:54 PM | Reply

Might as well march around with a flag that says "I'm a hopeless moron" instead of a Trump flag.

A distinction without a difference.

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-01-13 12:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-a flag that says "I'm a hopeless moron"

www.nytimes.com

This says it all....

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-13 01:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I mean...what's the deal with carrying that flag?

what does he want?

He can fly it in his yard, on his truck, etc...fine. stupid, disgusting...but I get why he flys it there.

But in your moment while storming the capitol....you take it with you.

why? Be an overt racist if you want to....but in the effort to overthrow the govt to reverse an election you believe was stolen.....WTF does the flag do for you and your cause right now?

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-13 01:06 PM | Reply

The guy with the hand gun and zip ties should yell at him and say "hey, -------...put that flag down and come help me"

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-13 01:08 PM | Reply

Do the people shown in this video, having broken into the Capitol, illegally accessed potentially classified information and ransacked offices, and now planning their next move, look like Antifa?

twitter.com

#37 | Posted by cbob at 2021-01-13 01:10 PM | Reply

"WTF does the flag do for you and your cause right now?"

It means that current events are partly pretext and that your cause includes a 160 year old grudge.

#38 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2021-01-13 01:33 PM | Reply

Here are the corporations who financially
helped to back it...

www.commondreams.org

#39 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-01-13 09:04 PM | Reply

In answer to others above,
(as I see the 'Stars and Bars'
daily here in WV), I find that
the Confederate Flag sort of
serves as a security blanket,
for largely downtrodden, hopeless
whites. Sort of like Linus' blanket
on Peanuts. But Linus was a kid,
and these are grown men, 155+ years
too late for 'their cause'...whatever
the heck that is... And that's just sad.

I get their anger and their feeling of
like they have no hope, because
many of them truly don't. It's just too
bad they don't know who to aim their anger
at. But that would force them to realize
that it's not the poor black or hispanic
keeping them down, but rich whites and
corporations, that refuse to pay them a
living wage... And THAT realization, would
wreck their whole belief system...

#40 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-01-13 09:15 PM | Reply

Wow!

Strawman much?

#41 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-01-13 09:16 PM | Reply

Oops!

But that's the challenge, right?

For every person who stormed the Capitol building, how many others were there that couldn't attend...but would have liked to? What about the protesters outside who didn't enter the Capitol, but instead chose to stay outside and wave their flags? Are they peaceful protesters, or insurrectionists?

"In some cases, these protests got far worse after our own POTUS specifically ordered federal agents into the area to crack down on the protestors."

It would appear that you're in approval of the government not sending in reinforcements to the Capitol, as it may have only led to the protesters becoming even more agitated.

Is that the case? Would defunding the police have led to a better outcome at the Capitol?

#24 | Posted by madbomber

Wow!

Strawman much?

#42 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-01-13 09:18 PM | Reply

"Insurrectionists. Or at least they have crossed the line away from a "peaceful" protest. They broke through the barricades. They were illegally where they were not allowed to be. They broke the law. If you break the law, you should be charged."

Would you apply that evenly to all "peaceful" protesters who might be protesting in the vicinity of those engaged in violent political activity?

#43 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-01-13 10:18 PM | Reply

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

Does standing on the steps of the Capitol while waving a confederate flag legally meet that criteria?

#44 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-01-13 10:19 PM | Reply

"Although you clearly don't understand what people really mean when they talk about defunding the police, nobody ever suggested defunding the Capitol Police."

But it's good, right, that the Capitol (Federal) police pulled back? That had they stayed around, they may have just inflamed the crowd which would have resulted in even more violence?

#45 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-01-13 10:21 PM | Reply

#44 They were part of a murderous mob that attacked Congress.

They should have been napalmed. Then they would have been black and everyone would agree they should have complied.

#46 | Posted by bored at 2021-01-14 12:21 AM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2021 World Readable

Drudge Retort