Twice is Nice

Wednesday, January 13, 2021

The House on Wednesday was poised to impeach President Donald Trump a second time, which will make him the first president to face possible removal twice. House lawmakers are expected to vote on a single article of impeachment around 3 p.m. ET, charging Trump with "incitement of insurrection" in the wake of a pro-Trump mob that violently stormed the U.S. Capitol last Wednesday.

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Interesting that Trump seditionists are allowed to vote on Trump's impeachment.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-13 12:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The GOP House Whip McCarthy has said he won't ask his people to vote against impeachment. Which may only mean he doesn't have to.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 12:46 PM | Reply

Why debate this, no one is gonna change their minds.

Just vote now. Then we will know who else needs to be removed.

#3 | Posted by kudzu at 2021-01-13 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Republican cult: "All he did was give a speech!*"

*in which he told a crowd to march on the capital and stop democracy, preceded by years of saying the media was lying, the election would be rigged, the election WAS rigged, democrats are stealing the white house, and if you don't stand up against them the country will die."

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-13 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Republican cult: "Dems are just obsessed with attacking trump!*"

*even though every attack on trump was a legitimate response to a crime or offense he chose to commit, we're still going to act like the opposition was attacking him for no reason.

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-13 12:53 PM | Reply

Is a second impeachment considered a consolation prize for not getting a Noble?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-01-13 12:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No, but it might get him a magazine cover.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2021-01-13 01:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Darrell Issa is making the case for impeachment, thinking he's making the case against impeachment.

Glad to have the sedition caucus self-identifying in this, though.

#8 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-01-13 01:13 PM | Reply

Finally, a rethug blaming madonna and kathy griffin.

#9 | Posted by kudzu at 2021-01-13 01:18 PM | Reply

Remember, Remember the 6th of January ...

The Trumplandia treason and plot...

I see no reason why the Trumplandia treason shall ever be forgot!

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 01:32 PM | Reply

It looks like the Republicans now want unity after dividing us and attacking Democrats for 4 years. I am not in favor of forgive and forget.

#11 | Posted by iloveyou at 2021-01-13 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

All the ------- have is Whataboutism... what about Antifa!!

Antifa wasn't invading your offices last week, dumbasses.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 01:44 PM | Reply

Republicans seem to think because there is only 9 days of Trump left we should all ignore Trumps call to charge the capitol.... I support impeachment

#13 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-01-13 01:45 PM | Reply

IMPEACH CONVICT IMPRISON

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-01-13 01:45 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

PBS channel

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 01:46 PM | Reply

The Republican arguments defending Trump up to this point seem trivial, adolescent. Fascinating they want Donald to be set free, given most of them would gladly shoot some fourteen-year-old making off with a six-pack of beer.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-13 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Five House Republicans said they would vote to impeach Trump, and more could join them.

That means impeachment in the House.

The question, if it is even a question, is what the Senate will do.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 01:53 PM | Reply

OK, 6 now, at least.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 01:53 PM | Reply

It looks like the Republicans now want unity after dividing us and attacking Democrats for 4 years. I am not in favor of forgive and forget.

#11 | Posted by iloveyou

If you interact with true juvenile criminals, they all attempt this ploy. That is, guilt trip you for living in the past and not moving on, even when it was only yesterday that they stole and wrecked your damned car.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-13 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Rep. Lauren Boebert's says Twitter has locked her account for nearly a week until the end of Inauguration Day.

Twitter said the Colorado Republican had tweets that "violated the Twitter Rules" but didn't specify which ones, according to a screenshot shared by Boebert."

krdo.com

Ah calls that preventative measures.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 01:57 PM | Reply

I am not in favor of forgive and forget.

#11 | POSTED BY ILOVEYOU

Not without some serious mea culpa.

That's why I'm so abrasive towards Boaz. He's run with the line that we just have to move forward and find unity and healing, completely ignoring the fact that healing usually means admitting to faults and learning lessons from past behavior.

But the right isn't expecting that. They think we can just walk past each other, slap hands and say good game and that's the end of it.

Well, nope. When you play dirty, try to put points on the board you didn't score, attempt to spike the infielders while sliding and beat one of the umpires to death with a bat you're damned right you're not walking off the field with a handshake and a good game.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It looks like the Republicans now want unity after dividing us and attacking Democrats for 4 years. I am not in favor of forgive and forget.

#11 | POSTED BY ILOVEYOU

Iloveyou (ilovesayingthat!)

I don't know about others but I don't feel like singing Kumbaya with anyone who incited or supported or participated in any way with the insurrection that occurred at our capitol on Jan 6 2021.

Semper Fi.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 02:04 PM | Reply

I bet there is a whole lot of yelling at the TV going on today!

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 02:06 PM | Reply

"I bet there is a whole lot of yelling at the TV going on today!"

School ended early today and I heard my daughter cursing loudly in her bedroom. She knows better. I went in to see what was going on. She was watching Matt Gaetz speak on her phone.

#24 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2021-01-13 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All Trump supporters only seem able to lie, deflect and then lie some more. How stupid are they? Or better yet, how stupid do they think the rest of us are?

Strange to say it, but in a way I feel like at this moment America is going through a re-birth of sorts. We are no longer who or what we were. And it is still unclear what we are becoming.

#25 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-01-13 02:11 PM | Reply

If this isn't an impeachable offense, nothing is.

#26 | Posted by rcade at 2021-01-13 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

If this isn't an impeachable offense, nothing is.

#26 | POSTED BY RCADE

Are we talking about for a Democratic POTUS or a Republican POTUS?

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I hope they create a 1/6 Commission. Every fact should be rooted out and publicly exposed.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-13 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Madam Speaker,

"The World is Watching."

I yield back my time.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 02:26 PM | Reply

Cori Bush denounces white supremacy and the Republican side of the house boo'ed. That tells you everything you need to know about the GOP.

#30 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-01-13 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

She was watching Matt Gaetz speak on her phone.

#24 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

Everyone in America should be watching.

This is us.

"We have met the enemy and it is us."

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 02:29 PM | Reply

"We have met the enemy and it is us."
#31 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Precisely why I put this above 9/11 in national significance.

We're watching, in real time, as the US descends into failed state status.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Chip Roy(R) Texas - Yeah, Trump did it! But Dems aren't 'peachin' him right!

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Latest: McConnell rejects emergency session for trial

If the House impeaches President Donald Trump, a Senate trial on whether to convict him of inciting insurrection seems all but certain to have to wait until President-elect Joe Biden is inaugurated.

That's the word from a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. The spokesman says aides to the Kentucky Republican have told Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's staff that McConnell won't agree to invoke powers calling senators into emergency session.

www.wpsdlocal6.com

The Sen doesn't return until the 19th. But that's ok, Trump can be convicted after he's our of office... and then he'll never hold that office again.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 02:50 PM | Reply

"Precisely why I put this above 9/11 in national significance."

Anyone in their right mind could see that this is worse.

Over 4,000 Americans are dying "every day". And it's not stopping but getting worse.

And now our own President has attacked the capitol of the US his own country and democracy and the constitution itself.

And yet the lies that the President constantly spewed that started it continue even today.

Yeah it's worse. Way worse. Don't let the creepy crawlies fool you.

The world is a stage and we are but players on that stage.

And their time on stage has about expired.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 02:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

republicl0wns swimming in the koolaide

#36 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-01-13 03:02 PM | Reply

Re #33

Here are some of their excuses so far...

Not doing it right

There is not enough evidence

He didn't really incite (technically).

It's the Dem fault

The Dems said violence is ok

It will divide the nation ...need to unify ( the kumbaya defense).

Or my favorite... they are too scared of what will happen to them or their families.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 03:05 PM | Reply

I forgot the most famous excuse for not impeaching this President right now.

"He learned his lesson."

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 03:08 PM | Reply

...they are too scared of what will happen to them or their families.

Well the impeachee is the cause of that fear, so get on with it.

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-01-13 03:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#39 ... Well the impeachee is the cause of that fear ...

... and they continue to enable him.

#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 03:19 PM | Reply

@#37 ... Here are some of their excuses so far... ...

I note that none of the excuses questions the merits of the impeachment, indeed, some of those who say they won't vote to impeach even say that the impeachment is valid.

Go figure.

#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 03:21 PM | Reply

they are too scared of what will happen to them or their families.

Then the terrorists have won.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-13 03:23 PM | Reply

The Capitol Hill mob wanted to intimidate Congress. It's working.
After receiving death threats, Republicans say they're afraid to vote to impeach.

By Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Jan 13, 2021, 1:40pm EST
Share this story

There is a disturbing reason Republicans in Congress are giving for refusing to break with President Donald Trump: They fear for their lives.

According to Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO), this is a major reason why more House Republicans aren't voting to impeach Donald Trump in the wake of the attack on the Capitol.

"The majority of them are paralyzed with fear," Crow said in a Wednesday MSNBC appearance. "I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night, and a couple of them broke down in tears " saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment."

Tim Alberta, Politico's chief political correspondent, found in his own reporting that "Crow was right."

"I know for a fact several members *want* to impeach but fear casting that vote could get them or their families murdered," Alberta writes. "Numerous House Republicans have received death threats in the past week."

This fear has not only affected the impeachment vote. Rep. Pete Meijer (R-MI) has said that he personally knows several House Republicans who wanted to vote to certify Joe Biden's 2020 electoral win but were afraid for their lives if they chose to do so.
more

www.vox.com

Trump's Big Lie about the election being rigged goes a long way.

Even when his own Supreme Court says that never happened.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Drs. Frankenstein always assumed they had control of their monster.

Now they're learning what the rest of us knew-the monster is in control of them.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 03:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Chip Roy(R) Texas - Yeah, Trump did it! But Dems aren't 'peachin' him right!

All kidding aside, I was actually worried about this. Does anyone else think they should have included Trump pressuring his VP to do something unconstituional - as in not certifying the election??? Or...is that actually included?

Because it seems to be the impeachment argument - and it's a dandy - that Trump was the ring leader of this coup is a no brainer. But I could see Republicans saying what Trump said, in relation to others' acutal actions, is not worthy of impeachment.

But breaking the Constitution - by asking Pence to overturn the election - is what Republicans needed to see in writing.

However, I could then see Repubs making a case that simply asking Pence to do something unconstitutional is not really breaking the law - ie Pence would never do it, and did not.

#45 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-01-13 03:37 PM | Reply

Demanding that Pence do something he couldn't do anyway is typical 5 year old Trumpy.

Dems may have figured that the more charges, the more debate, and kept it simple.

But you're right, that is just as egregious in it's own way as is inciting the riot.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 03:41 PM | Reply

McConnell now officially saying he hasn't made up his mind, will wait for arguments.

That's the best the Dems can ask for right now............given how dug in that party has been.

#47 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-01-13 03:44 PM | Reply

Or my favorite... they are too scared of what will happen to them or their families.

Actually, after seeing or experiencing what happened last week, I sorta believe that one.

But you gotta be bigger and stronger given the moment...........

#48 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-01-13 03:45 PM | Reply

FWIW the rightwingnuts seem very invested in the story that the violence at the Capitol was outside agitators/antifa/paid troublemakers. I think that the realization that what happened was wrong and illegal is starting to sink in. No that there will be a "come to jesus moment", but it is another form of justification for one's actions.

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 03:46 PM | Reply

After the 19th, the new Dem Majority leader can begin the impeachment trial... and make sure Trump can never run again.

He'll lose interest and go back to golf and porn stars.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Matt Gaetz calling Biden the
'Biden Crime Family'....man is
THAT rich!!!

He done drank ALLL the Kool-aid!

#51 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-01-13 03:47 PM | Reply

Do you believe them?

I mean...it's possible a congressman's family could be vulnerable to this.

I've been to my former congressmen's home before. Short of law enforcement specific protection.....I guess I could buy that.

But I'm skeptical and I still think they are more concerned about placating donors.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-13 03:48 PM | Reply

Matt Gaetz calling Biden the
'Biden Crime Family'....man is
THAT rich!!!

He done drank ALLL the Kool-aid!

#51 | Posted by earthmuse

Gaetz knows trump is toast, he's trying to be the next trump in line - a loud ignorant angry moron spouting propaganda and white supremacy and victimhood.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-13 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If we are talking about a 100 or so congressmen/women....then put FBI agents and/or local law enforcement on them.

Some leave their families back home.....some have them in DC. Some have no families....this is a solvable problem.

#54 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-13 03:50 PM | Reply

After the 19th, the new Dem Majority leader can begin the impeachment trial... and make sure Trump can never run again.
He'll lose interest and go back to golf and porn stars.

#50 | POSTED BY CORKY

That's likely what McConnell is counting on.

He's giving soft answers to make it look like he's against it but doesn't have the spine to take a real stance. He'll gladly cast the blame on Schumer and try to save face with the Trumpers.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 03:53 PM | Reply

@#48 ... Actually, after seeing or experiencing what happened last week, I sorta believe that one.

But you gotta be bigger and stronger given the moment........... ...

Once it is seen that intimidation works to affect how Congressional reps vote, intimidation will become the norm.

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 04:09 PM | Reply

It just solves so many of Republican Sens problems if Trump is never able to run again.

They won't mind running against Ivanka.

IVANKA TRUMP APPARENTLY THINKS SHE'S GOING TO RIDE THIS INSURRECTION OUT AND BE PRESIDENT ONE DAY

www.vanityfair.com

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 04:10 PM | Reply

the impeachee is the cause of that fear, so get on with it.

#39 | POSTED BY REDIAL

You and I can see that this. It seems obvious to us even. Like a glaring red danger sign.

The sad and even scary thing is that these trumpets cannot see the irony of supporting and spreading the Deadly Delusion.

#58 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:12 PM | Reply

Cheney Faces GOP Move to Oust Her Over Trump Impeachment
www.bloomberg.com

...Representative Liz Cheney, the No. 3 House Republican, is facing calls to resign from leadership after she said she would vote to impeach President Donald Trump.

Three members of her party say Cheney should be ousted from her role as Republican conference chair after she said Trump was responsible for inciting the violent mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol last week.

Representative Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican and member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said he's pushing for House Republicans to strip her of her leadership duties. Representatives Matt Rosendale of Montana and Andy Biggs of Arizona have also called for her to step down. Cheney, of Wyoming, was re-elected to the job without objection and without a roll-call vote late last year.

"The conference ought to vote on that," Jordan told reporters on Wednesday. "I think she's wrong."...

This is your GOP on kool-aid.

#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 04:17 PM | Reply

18 votes away

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:18 PM | Reply

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:19 PM | Reply

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:19 PM | Reply

9 Republicans so far...

#63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:19 PM | Reply

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:20 PM | Reply

ugh my link cut to talking heads

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:21 PM | Reply

Quoted in @#59 ... Representative Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican and member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said he's pushing for House Republicans to strip her of her leadership duties. ...

To see just how far out Rep Jordan is, there is this exchange...

twitter.com

CSPAN
@cspan

Full exchange between Rep. McGovern and Rep. Jordan.

.@RepMcGovern
: "Will you admit that Joe Biden won fair and square and the election was not rigged or stolen?"

@Jim_Jordan
: "He won the election...Joe Biden is going to be sworn in as president."

It is almost painful to watch Rep McGovern trying to get Rep Jordan to acknowledge the results of the election. The video in that tweet runs for 9 minutes as Rep Jordan dodges the question over and over.

#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 04:21 PM | Reply

#67 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:22 PM | Reply

sharpening the tines getting ready to stick another fork in it.... sooooooooo muuuuuuuuch winnnnn-nnnning. (for us)

#68 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-01-13 04:22 PM | Reply

Do I hear 10? Gimme 11.

Do I hear 10?

#69 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:22 PM | Reply

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:22 PM | Reply

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:22 PM | Reply

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:23 PM | Reply

Gimme 10!

#73 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:23 PM | Reply

217 votes

------- has been impeached twice

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:23 PM | Reply

Julius Caesar was assassinated on the steps of the senate. Seems like Trump supporters don't want to wait for any congressmen to even try to exit the building. Kill 'em all in the chambers!

#75 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-01-13 04:24 PM | Reply

@#65

Bloomberg is showing ( www.bloomberg.com )

Yea: 211
Nay: 190
with 9 Republicans in the Yea column.

#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 04:24 PM | Reply

10!!!!

#77 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:24 PM | Reply

10 republicans voted for impeachment 9 havent voted yet

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:25 PM | Reply

Do I hear 11?

#79 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:25 PM | Reply

10 republicl0wns have joined the dark side buwah-hahahahahahahahahahaha!

#80 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-01-13 04:25 PM | Reply

------- has been impeached twice

Twice as bigly as any other POTUS. Enormous. Landslide. Gigantic.

#81 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-01-13 04:25 PM | Reply

No need to call any AGs to find votes either

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 04:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

That makes this a bipartisan impeachment.

Now let's see him convicted... and kept from ever running again.

#83 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 04:27 PM | Reply

The Most Impeached-ist Pres Ever!! - Lil' Donnie

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 04:28 PM | Reply

theglobalherald.com

...GOP Rep. Roy Sees Impeachable Conduct' in Trump But Will Vote No...

I do not understand this at all.

#85 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 04:28 PM | Reply

I do not understand this at all.

#85 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

These folks got some splaining to do.

Maybe they can explain it to the FBI when they come a knocking.

#86 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:31 PM | Reply

Impeached Again!
Inevitable....so far 10 GOP
crossed the line.

#87 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-01-13 04:35 PM | Reply

Remember, Remember the 6th of January ...

We should commemorate this day annually by throwing an orange out of our front door.

#88 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-01-13 04:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

Come on Republicans.

There are only 10 Republicans in the House with a conscience and a sense of history?

I am happy to see there are at least 10 members of the opposing party... the most ever in history, yet it is still so very sad.

#89 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:36 PM | Reply

Impeached!!!!

Leaving in disgrace... again... so much winning!

weee weee weeee go home cl0wns.

#90 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-01-13 04:37 PM | Reply

#88 |

... and stepping one it!

lmao, Lee

#91 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 04:40 PM | Reply

on it

#92 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 04:41 PM | Reply

Like shooting pigs in a barrel.

#93 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-01-13 04:43 PM | Reply

Re 88

And then centuries later no one will know for certain why people do that.

But ancient alien astronomers will have a theory...

#94 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 04:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

#95 | Posted by LesWit at 2021-01-13 04:51 PM | Reply

... Twice is Nice ...

But convicted is even better!

#96 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 04:58 PM | Reply

Nothing 'nice' about it. It's a sad day when any President is (rightfully) impeached. If you think this is fun, you hate what America stands for just as much as the insurrectionists and their apologists.

#97 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-01-13 04:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

F$&@ off SSentinel.

#98 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

#95 | POSTED BY LESWIT

But, please don't be too nice.

President's orders.

"When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. Trump said, Please don't be too nice,'"

#99 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 05:01 PM | Reply

Just one little video Democrats need to use during Trump's impeachment trial:

Dying that Brian Mast just stood up and said "well none of the rioters have said they were invited by the president" when this video exists of them literally screaming "WE WERE INVITED BY THE PRESIDENT!!!!!"

Very telling video of rioters outside the Capitol shouting at police: "We were invited here. We were invited by the president of the United States"

twitter.com

#100 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-13 05:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They might as well have been screaming, "we were incited to come here". And it would be true.

#101 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-01-13 05:05 PM | Reply

They were invited and then riled up by him, incited and then sent to the capitol.

I am still trying to determine if there was an actual permit to March to the capitol. It's seems there wasn't.

It be be really interesting if there wasn't.

#102 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 05:06 PM | Reply

Frank Bowman @FOBowman3

Tragedy playing out here. Repubs had chance to turn away from Trump the man, if not from his policies they approve. Chance to reject delusion. A chance to protect their own institution. But arguments most r making will reaffirm fears & hostility of Trump's base. Hard times ahead.

#103 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-13 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Touche!:

Preet Bharara @PreetBharara

There is hella more evidence of incitement to insurrection than evidence of election-changing voter fraud
1:52 PM Jan 13, 2021

#104 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-13 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Some of the lawyers are noting that attempting to overturn the election itself is more a legal problem even than how he did it, inciting to riot.

#105 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 05:15 PM | Reply

It's a sad day when any President is (rightfully) impeached.

It's even sadder when they don't get convicted.

#106 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-01-13 05:15 PM | Reply

@#97 ... Nothing 'nice' about it. It's a sad day when any President is (rightfully) impeached. If you think this is fun, you hate what America stands for just as much as the insurrectionists and their apologists. ...

I agree that this is a sad day for the Country. Indeed, much of the past four years have been sad for the Country.

However, I also say that it is good to see Justice served for acts of trying to destroy our Republic.

And that is the good part in today for me. Justice has been served.

Now on to conviction...

#107 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 05:16 PM | Reply

Nobody gets impeached as great as me. You're going to see impeachment like you've never seen before.

#108 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-01-13 05:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Hugely beautiful impeachment, the greatest impeachment ever!

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 05:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's even sadder when they don't get convicted.

*itch McConnell is punting to the Democratic senate for conviction.

He doesn't have the stones to convict Trump.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-13 05:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If we are talking about a 100 or so congressmen/women....then put FBI agents and/or local law enforcement on them.
Some leave their families back home.....some have them in DC. Some have no families....this is a solvable problem.

#54 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2021-01-13 03:50 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

How do you know the FBI agents protecting them aren't part of the sedition? Literally that's a fair question.

Research Benazir Bhutto for some context.

I understand their fears, and as Republicans, I would expect nothing less.

Also notable all the Democrats who weren't afraid to vote their conscience. Like, all of them.

#111 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-13 05:20 PM | Reply

Anyone tired of impeaching yet?

#112 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-01-13 05:20 PM | Reply

If we are talking about a 100 or so congressmen/women....then put FBI agents and/or local law enforcement on them.

Some leave their families back home.....some have them in DC. Some have no families....this is a solvable problem.

#54 | Posted by eberly

The security of your party is much more solvable than the cowardice and ethical bankruptcy of your party. I'd love to hear your solution to that, without pretending that democrats are comparable or democrats made repubs be like this.

#113 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-13 05:32 PM | Reply

That son-of-a-b**** Mitch McConnell has almost guaranteed Trump will never be convicted.

I'm glad Democrats are Going the Distance though.

#114 | Posted by Tor at 2021-01-13 05:35 PM | Reply

Trump belongs on Mt. Impeachmore.

#115 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-01-13 05:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

McConnell is punting to the Democratic senate for conviction.

He's waiting to see how many more loonies will emerge next week. That'll shake a few more awake in the senate.

#116 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-01-13 05:44 PM | Reply

#116 National Guardsmen briefed on IED threat to Capitol

The briefing comes as the Guard plans a massive show of force to prevent violence during President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration.

www.politico.com

#117 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-13 05:47 PM | Reply

Here are the 10 redeemable GOP House members. The rest need to go.

Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Rep. John Katko of New York
Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan
Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington
Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina
Rep. David Valadao of California

#118 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-01-13 05:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hugely beautiful impeachment, the greatest impeachment ever!

#109 | Posted by Corky

Best attended impeachment in history.

#119 | Posted by Zed at 2021-01-13 05:52 PM | Reply

The Lincoln Project is still around...

twitter.com

Trump wanted to be a strongman, but he'll leave a weakling " with blood on his hands.

We won't ever forget it.

0:06
236.9K views
2:15 PM Jan 13, 2021

As per norm, the accompanying video (see Tweet) has gravitas.

#120 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 05:55 PM | Reply

apropos of nothing, I just saw a t shirt that said

Surely Not Everyone Was Kung -- Fighting

just wanted to share

#121 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 05:55 PM | Reply

stop it, Lee, you're killing me

#122 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 05:56 PM | Reply

twitter.com

The Lincoln Project Retweeted

Jennifer Expel the Seditionists Horn
@NHJennifer

Please join me in thanking these patriots for protecting our elected leaders, and our democracy.

I hope they get more comfortable rest soon.

Image

10:56 AM Jan 13, 2021Twitter Web App

See the tweet for the photo...

#123 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 05:58 PM | Reply

Anyone tired of impeaching yet?

#112 | POSTED BY REDIAL

I dunno. I think we might have time to sneak in one more!

For the road.

#124 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 06:13 PM | Reply

HE EARNED IT.
He will be known forever as the worst president in this nation's history.
He earned that too.

#125 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-01-13 07:02 PM | Reply

After impeachment, Trump says he "unequivocally" condemns U.S. Capitol violence
www.axios.com

...President Trump condemned political violence in a video Wednesday evening exactly one week after a pro-Trump mob breached the Capitol in a deadly siege, and hours after the House voted to impeach him for a second time.

Why it matters: The video, posted to the White House's official Twitter account, came as the president faces an impeachment trial in the Senate after 10 Republicans voted with House Democrats for impeachment. ...

I have a couple of comments on this...

First of all, and mainly, why wasn't he saying this type of thing for THE PAST FOUR YEARS??

Second, back when the Trump supporters used to visit this august site, they oft told me not to listen to what Pres Trump says, because he lies. But to watch what he does. So, following the advice of those Trump supporters, I am ignoring what he said today, and have watched his actions last week inciting the insurrectionists.

#126 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 07:21 PM | Reply

Lamp - that video was made to CYA. It will be played during the Senate trial. And be used in any criminal and/or civil proceedings.

He's actually fortuntae Twitter took his privledges away, he'd probably do more harm to himself than good......in fact not probably, most certainly.

#127 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-01-13 07:30 PM | Reply

>Lamp - that video was made to CYA.

Yes. He's spent his life speaking in 'mob boss' and walking it back if it gets a little sticky.

Lamp - I appreciate your rational approach but it's not the right tool for the job.
Can't play connect the dots on a pool of vomit.

#128 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2021-01-13 07:36 PM | Reply

@#128 ... Lamp - I appreciate your rational approach ...

Why thank you for thinking my comments are rational. :)

OK seriously...

... Can't play connect the dots on a pool of vomit. ...

I thought that's what I said.

I noted his supporters have told me not to believe what he says, because he lies. Serially.

His supporters have told me that.

Some supporters, eh?

But I digress.

Yeah, I said that based upon the actions of Pres Trump past year, what he said today was a farce, if that good.

At least, that's the concept I had hoped to convey. Maybe I didn't do as well as I thought I had done. :(

In any case... I believe not for one second that Pres Trump has even the slightest bit of remorse for the insurrection he incited.

I suspect his only remorse is that it failed.

#129 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 07:52 PM | Reply

"Ya'll can spare me this this talk of "unity" and "divisiveness."

If republicans controlled the house they'd be driving this bus straight into coup town and throwing out as many votes as they could."

-Anonymous.

#130 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-13 08:00 PM | Reply

McConnell is punting to the Democratic senate for conviction.

This will also eat up some time in the dem controlled congress.

#131 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-13 08:02 PM | Reply

@#130

Absolutely.

Keep in mind that a goal of the insurrectionists was to kill the Democrats and put the Republicans in control.

I have posted quotes to that effect.

#132 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 08:03 PM | Reply

#132

A much younger Otis Rush w/ Clampton

www.youtube.com

#133 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 08:21 PM | Reply

Clapton, lol

#134 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-13 08:23 PM | Reply

... , 134

Kool.

But keep your threads in order. :)

We're over there ( drudge.com ) with the guitar playing....

(scroll down)

(a lot)

( :) )

#135 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 08:36 PM | Reply

From another friend:

"A POTUS so full of vice, we impeached him twice."

#136 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-13 08:46 PM | Reply

I have a couple of comments on this...
First of all, and mainly, why wasn't he saying this type of thing for THE PAST FOUR YEARS??
Second, back when the Trump supporters used to visit this august site, they oft told me not to listen to what Pres Trump says, because he lies. But to watch what he does. So, following the advice of those Trump supporters, I am ignoring what he said today, and have watched his actions last week inciting the insurrectionists.

#126 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

------- will backtrack on this video soon, since he is kicked off social media it will take longer than usual

#137 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-01-13 08:51 PM | Reply

We are at a dangerous place in our history, many members o our law enforcement and even our military are in agreement with the insurrectionists.
It is time for MILLIONS of Americans to pour out on to the streets supporting our government.
We actually do need, right now, the largest protest in American history!
We are at a turning point in our history, it will either become dictatorship or democracy. That is, honestly, the point in history where we actually are. Know that, react to that appropriately, make it impossible for any dictatorship to succeed in America. Oh yes we can!

#138 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-13 09:05 PM | Reply

@#138 ... We are at a dangerous place in our history ...

If you knew how much I agree with your comment, you might be even more frightened than you appear to be.

A snapshot of our turbulent past...

Thunderclap Newman - Something In The Air
www.youtube.com

#139 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 09:16 PM | Reply

I gotta be honest tonight, interviews with the right wing terrorists, they say they are bringing hundreds of thousands of traitors, I do honestly wonder if our leaders are taking this seriously enough.
I think we should have massive numbers of soldiers, armed. to repel any huge right wing crazy attack which I do not think is that unlikely.

#140 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-13 09:16 PM | Reply

"you might be even more frightened than you appear to be"

I am frightened. I honestly think we are at risk of losing our democracy, though today Congress did give me a little hope. But none of us really know how all of this is going to turn out and I do, honestly, fear the right wing crazies. If they ever totally get their way they could make life intolerable for me and lots of people who aren't even really that much like me.

#141 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-13 09:23 PM | Reply

You said it, Jr:

Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr

Dear Clintons,

You know what's deplorable?

Being Impeached!!!

#BasketOfDeplorables
6:49 PM Sep 10, 2016

#142 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-13 09:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#141 ... I honestly think we are at risk of losing our democracy, ...

Well, the Republicans seem to be in favor of that. They seem to be saying, ~who cares what has happened, so long as I m re-elected.~

DANNI, your comments here are, to me, not necessarily ones that I might agree with.

But here, I think you are spot-on. Oh so spot on. Frighteningly so spot on.

We (the Republic we call the Untied Sates of America) are in grave danger.

We have fought off one insurrection attempt.

But there will be others.

#143 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 09:34 PM | Reply

If Republicans are talking about the need for unity, it means a Republican somewhere is facing consequences for his actions.

#144 | Posted by rcade at 2021-01-13 09:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#142 ... You know what's deplorable? ...

I'll tell you one thing I think is deplorable...

Storming the Capitol of the United Stated dressed in costumes, and thinking you can take over the Government of the United States.

That is what I think is deplorable.

And for what it is worth...

I gave Ms Clinton oh so much grief for using the term "deplorable" but I have to say that the supporters of Pres Trump have lowered themselves to earn that appellation.

They have earned it.

#145 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 09:40 PM | Reply

@#144 ... If Republicans are talking about the need for unity, it means a Republican somewhere is facing consequences for his actions. ...

From what I have seen, when Republicans talk of unity, they really mean, ~do what we want you to do.~.

Counterpoints welcome.

btw, apropos?

Music Machine - Talk Talk
www.youtube.com

I got me a complication
And it's an only child
Concernin' my reputation
As something more than wild
I know it serves me right
But I can't sleep at night
Have to hide my face
Or go some other play-ay-ay-ay-ay-ace

I won't cry out for justice
Admit that I was wrong
I'll stay in hibernation
'Til the talk subsides to gone
My social life's a dud
My name is really mud
I'm up to here in lies
Guess I'm down to size
To size

...

#146 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-13 09:48 PM | Reply

If Republicans are talking about the need for unity, it means a Republican somewhere is facing consequences for his actions.

#144 | POSTED BY RCADE

And an angel gets its wings.

#147 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-13 09:55 PM | Reply

From what I have seen, when Republicans talk of unity, they really mean, ~do what we want you to do.

That's exactly what it is.

I saw an analogy today that describes the Repubs perfectly.

They're like a domestic abuser telling their spouse that if they call the cops or leave they'll be tearing the family apart.

#148 | Posted by jpw at 2021-01-13 09:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

CALLING IT NOW - repubs are going to tie economic covid relief to letting trump off the hook for his crimes. They'll hold a gun to the head of suffering americans to help their cult leader escape accountability

#149 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-13 10:17 PM | Reply

One chamber down, one to go. Now is not the time to dither or watch Trump desperation videos. Now is the time to convict and remove from office the most vile occupant of the Oval Office there ever was - before he has a chance to walk out at the scheduled end of his term. Deny him the dignity he has denied all of us over these past four years of madness.

#150 | Posted by cbob at 2021-01-13 10:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Deny him the dignity...

Lewzer did that to himself decades ago.

#151 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-01-13 10:34 PM | Reply

@#148 I saw an analogy today that describes the Repubs perfectly.

They're like a domestic abuser telling their spouse that if they call the cops or leave they'll be tearing the family apart.

Worth repeating...

I saw an analogy today that describes the Repubs perfectly.

They're like a domestic abuser telling their spouse that if they call the cops or leave they'll be tearing the family apart.

#152 | Posted by lamplighter at 2021-01-13 11:08 PM | Reply

I find it ironic that the connotations of the word "p***y" frame the beginning and end of the Buffoon's tenure.

It begins with a false projection of manliness as assaultive. www.vox.com

It ends with a false projection of patriotism as cowardice. dailycaller.com

The Vice-President is exposed the patriot. The Buffoon is been exposed the coward.

#153 | Posted by et_al at 2021-01-14 02:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Mi_Leona
32 points
1 hour ago

Leftist here. Yeah, boo me if you want.

I'd just like to clarify is that no one with any good sense condones the rioting over the summer of last year. It's a shame they happened and I wish they hadn't, but that was an unfortunate reality. Thankfully, the majority of them, the protests*, were peaceful.

That said, comparing what happened over the summer and what happened last Wednesday as "just as bad" or "worse" is a false equivalence. The sole purpose of the BLM demonstrations was to spread awareness of the very real problem of extra-judicial police killings done with impunity in this country thanks to racial disparity in the criminal justice system. A U.N. report was conducted that verifies this issue and another data study was compiled just August of last year.

The recent insurrection was based off of a very dangerous lie in an attempt to keep the current sitting President in office. Say what you will about BLM, folks, call us "uppity" if you want, but at least we didn't attempt to interrupt a constitutionally mandated process and overthrow the U.S. government, resulting in a cop getting murdered on capitol grounds, despite people on the right being the "party of law and order".
www.reddit.com

#154 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-14 03:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I find it ironic that the connotations of the word "p***y" frame the beginning and end of the Buffoon's tenure.
It begins with a false projection of manliness as assaultive. www.vox.com
It ends with a false projection of patriotism as cowardice. dailycaller.com
The Vice-President is exposed the patriot. The Buffoon is been exposed the coward.

#153 | POSTED BY ET_AL AT 2021-01-14 02:12 AM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY

#155 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-14 03:42 AM | Reply

...the supporters of Pres Trump have lowered themselves to earn that appellation(deplorable).
#145 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

No one lowered themselves, they were always there.

#156 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-01-14 09:24 AM | Reply

Now Trump gets to have his face carved into Mt. Impeachmore.

#157 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-01-14 09:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

The Vice-President is exposed the patriot. The Buffoon is been exposed the coward.

#153 | POSTED BY ET_AL

Can't argue with that counselor.

#158 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-14 09:26 AM | Reply

1/2 the presidential impeachments in American history are now the "property" of Donald Trump.

#159 | Posted by Tor at 2021-01-14 12:58 PM | Reply

Anyone seen the Jan 2021 cover for the New European.

twitter.com

#160 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-14 01:45 PM | Reply

at least we didn't attempt to interrupt a constitutionally mandated process and overthrow the U.S. government, resulting in a cop getting murdered on capitol grounds

#154 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2021-01-14 03:41 AM | FLAG:

Both groups are so much alike it's staggering. The most perfect example of Horseshoe Theory you could ask for. Both are mostly peaceful protesters with a front line of potentially dangerous idiots.

#161 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-01-15 08:54 AM | Reply

#161

That's like saying someone who steals a loaf of bread to feed his children is the same as someone who robs a bank to finance a luxury lifestyle.

#162 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-01-15 09:11 AM | Reply

#162

Are really claiming that the (mostly white) protestors and rioters last summer were only doing so because they were trying to feed their starving families? Really?

#163 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-01-15 10:03 AM | Reply

It's an idiom, idiot.

#164 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-15 10:15 AM | Reply

Or, more precisely, a metaphor. Mother ------.

#165 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-15 10:17 AM | Reply

A metaphor for what?

#166 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-01-15 05:27 PM | Reply

Both are mostly peaceful protesters with a front line of potentially dangerous idiots.
#161 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

There is no "both sides" to how dangerous conservatives are.

Left wing rioters broke glass and looted businesses.

Rightwing rioters burnt down a police station and an autozone. Rightwing terrorists stormed capitol buildings in multiple states and in DC. Rightwing lunatics crossed state lines with illegal firearms and murdered protesters. Rightwing lunatics were busted stockpiling explosives. Rightwing lunatics plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Your "both sides are equally as bad" bullshht belongs up your arse.

#167 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-15 05:43 PM | Reply

A metaphor for what?
#166 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

QED

#168 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-15 05:50 PM | Reply

It was a rhetorical question, Dumas. Of course we all knew it was an attempt to excuse and justify the violence last summer. Except for the "bad" violence that went too far, that was all 100% right wing boogaloos, and any comparison between claiming that and blaming "antifa" for the January 6th violence is "bullshht" because... uh, just because.

#169 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-01-15 06:14 PM | Reply

Interesting you mention Alexandre Dumas, pere. "The Count of Monte Cristo" was so good I read it twice. Perhaps you should chained in the Chateau d'If for a while. You know, to get your head out of your ass.

#170 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-15 06:31 PM | Reply