The proximity of the Jan. 6 attackers to the vice president and the delay in evacuating him from the chamber " which have not been previously reported " raise questions about why the Secret Service did not move him earlier and underscore the jeopardy that top government leaders faced during the siege.

With besieged police officers now recounting their horror stories of being assaulted and battered at the same time as more evidence of preplanning and potential coordination with inside sources is alleged, there can be little doubt that the President's role in giving the final marching orders to this mob are unquestionably worthy of his impeachment.

And I believe the days that follow will reveal more shocking stories which will likely lead to his conviction once the trial is over in the Senate. Because the worst part of this is always indisputed: Trump has always been lying about systemic widespread election fraud because there wasn't any which affected the overwhelming results.

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I think that's much too harsh JPW. I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I have to give Pence credit for both of his important decisions - while still criticizing him for even asking questions about the first one.

Pence asked constitutional experts about his role in the Electoral College vote tabulation and followed their conclusions even when Trump found quacks to try and change his mind. Secondly, it's been reported that Pence did the same thing with the 25th Amendment question and he was told that the language of it was tacitly written for medical or physically catastrophic incidents where the President could not perform his duties, not for cases like Trump's where the President was simply not upholding his constitutional duties - and probably committing crimes - due to his own irrationality. Pence's view is that impeachment or resignation are the only proper ways for Trump to be removed prior to the end of his term under the current conditions.

Again, I think that this argument is wholly consistent with a fair reading and understanding of the 25th Amendment's purpose even though most everyone can see why at this 11th hour very few people would hold it against him for invoking it due to Trump's own seditious actions coming 2 weeks from the end of his term, seeing as how there are no guarantees that Trump won't try even more pathologically tragic machinations before 12pm Wednesday.

To be clear, Pence did not advocate that Trump should be removed by impeachment, but the gist of his comments were that the impeachment process was the correct constitutional action to take if Congress wanted Trump removed legally, not cajoling him to use the 25th Amendment in a way that isn't consistent with the language on which it is written.