What's interesting is when I enlisted in the 1988, most of the recruits were just-graduated high school students needing a way to pay for college. Plus it got them out of their one-horse towns with no prospects for employment beyond flipping burgers and sacking groceries for minimum wage. When you got to know them, other reasons started sproutiing. For instance, my father had a massive stroke at 50 and and his personality changed and caused my mother a lot of problems. He finally died at 60. i was 24. So, he got a whopping $550 disability check. So, joining the Army Reserve was my way out.

Today, the recruits are joining-up to go shoot Mooslums. And are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan no doubt with PTSD at best and with borderline personality disorder at worst, save losing their lives or limbs. Many go into the police forces, remain in the National Guard or Army reserves to fulfill their 8-ayear contract. Yes, when anyone enlists, you actually sign-up for 8 years. You can spend the time in the Active military or be released after a 4-year stint and then placed in the Army/Navy/Air Force/Marine Reserves to complete your contract. There is a special dispensation for certain servicepeople called the IRR or Individual Ready Reserve in which you don't drill one weekend a month, but remain on-call at a moment's notice to be recalled up. I believe officers, when commissioned, have to spend 10 years in the active and ready reserves.

Nevertheless, my point is they are a different breed of soldier than I was. I never saw combat, but was activated during the 1990 Gulf War, but our Combat Engineer Battalion was never called up since the war was over so quickly. These guys are seasoned, relatively young, and used to following orders from a dictatorial point of view. Which resonates with what Qanon is doing. Not to mention AM radio hosts rousing the rabble with half-truths and ------- about how their being f--ked by the government, when they don't realize it's their boss and company they work for who's doing the f--king. And the super-upper-class who've been hoarding money since 1973.

How are they supposed to "vet" them?

Have you ever been a radical Muslim sympathizer or been in any Muslim outfit committed to harming the US?

Duh, no?

I actually feel sorry for all the good and trusted Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, or South Asian people in the services right now. This has got to be a stressing time for them. Ironically , as it turns out, these are "homegrown", fanatic, White Supremacists who are the radicalized, young, fools.

It's no wonder the Jews try to get their men married-off as soon as possible. It keeps them sexually sated enough that they don't want to fight unless it's absolultely necessary. Or by law.

This is not acceptable behavior for US military personnel. After a good reaming by their 1st Sergeant and Captain, they should be sent to the klink for 6 months and given a Bad Conduct Discharge.

As a serviceperson, you give up certain of your Constitution Rights and are judged under the UCMJ--Uniform Code of Military Justice. You do not have the right to free expression. You do not have the 4th ammendment to protect you from unreasonable searches and seizures. You do not have certain 5th Ammendment protections. (Ve haf vays of makingk you talk). And the 6th-through-10th Ammendments have many exceptions that do not afford a serviceperson. I'ts like being on parole or probation during your tour of duty.

I love that spiel by George Carlin...and that was for civilians!

They all took an oath to the constitution.
#15 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2021-01-19 03:04 PM
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Wrong. Enlisted service personnel take an oath to DEFEND the constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, and follow every officer appointed over them, including the President, according to the regs of the UCMJ.

Officers also take an oath to DEFEND against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC and the constitution, but do not take an oath to obey senior officers or the President. But the rest of the oath is the same as enlisted personnel.

To wit:

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted): "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

The Oath of Office (for officers): "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

Before you raise your right hand, make sure you understand what you are swearing or attesting to. The oath of enlistment should not be taken lightly, you will be bound by it for the next 4 to 6 years at a minimum.