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Sunday, January 24, 2021

A rioter who was arrested for allegedly punching a D.C. police officer in the head during the Capitol insurrection is the son of a New Jersey trooper and the brother of a member of the U.S. Secret Service, HuffPost reports.

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This lout has been lucky so far. Punching a cop usually results in someone falling down a long flight of stairs. Twice. Or getting shot while 'attempting to escape' custody. Or hanging oneself in one's cell. I'll wager his father and his brother are what's keeping this guy alive. For now...

#1 | Posted by catdog at 2021-01-24 03:55 PM | Reply

"got pulled into the "conspiracy theory vortex," one associate said."

If he doesn't get pulled into the Prison Industrial Vortex next, then this country has real problems.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-24 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He's white and the FBI is already backing off prosecuting Trump supporters.

We're going to try unity instead!

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-24 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There are bad people on both sides.

#4 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-01-24 04:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

There are bad people on both sides.
#4 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

In this case, you are correct.
There are bad people in the GOP who were literally on both sides!
They are still part of government, and they were part of the insurrectionists storming The Capitol.
Not to mention, police officers and military personnel, who swore the Oath of Office, and also took part in the insurrection.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-24 04:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There are bad people in the GOP who were literally on both sides!
They are still part of government, and they were part of the insurrectionists storming The Capitol.
Not to mention, police officers and military personnel, who swore the Oath of Office, and also took part in the insurrection.
#5 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

In the least, we've proven that the deplorables were in hiding this entire time. All the racists, anarchists, and authoritarians reared their little heads for all of us to recognize. It's the one thing I believe social media will be used for the good: a giant bulletin board where we can post pictures of the insurrectionists and racists and anarchists so that the process of public shaming can have a legitimate impact. These ------- people thought being from across the country would mask them (see what I did there?) from accountability. Not in the 21st century, morons! Criminal accountability is not enough; they deserve public derision. There's no way to stamp out these people or their mentality. All we can hope to do is prosecute, force them to be held accountable for their crimes, then shame them BACK INTO THE ------- HOLE THEY CAME FROM!

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-24 05:33 PM | Reply

"In the least, we've proven that the deplorables were in hiding this entire time."

Many of us have known that for years.
I find it hard to believe someone with a Master's in Criminal Justice isn't acutely aware of the racist and fascist overtones of contemporary police work.
"Sheepdogs" should come immediately to mind.

What I'm saying is, while it's good to have it out in the open, it won't change 77% of Republican's minds. It will only make them Back The Blue even harder.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-24 05:38 PM | Reply

Can a judge sentence him to be shot out of a cannon across the potomic?

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2021-01-24 05:51 PM | Reply

It's the one thing I believe social media will be used for the good: a giant bulletin board where we can post pictures of the insurrectionists and racists and anarchists so that the process of public shaming can have a legitimate impact.

RSTY

College kid did this:

This Site Published Every Face From Parler's Capitol Riot Videos

Faces of the Riot used open source software to detect, extract, and deduplicate every face from the 827 videos taken from the insurrection on January 6.

Late last week, a website called Faces of the Riot appeared online, showing nothing but a vast grid of more than 6,000 images of faces, each one tagged only with a string of characters associated with the Parler video in which it appeared. The site's creator tells WIRED that he used simple open source machine learning and facial recognition software to detect, extract, and deduplicate every face from the 827 videos that were posted to Parler from inside and outside the Capitol building on January 6, the day when radicalized Trump supporters stormed the building in a riot that resulted in five people's deaths.

The creator of Faces of the Riot says his goal is to allow anyone to easily sort through the faces pulled from those videos to identify someone they may know or recognize who took part in the mob, or even to reference the collected faces against FBI wanted posters and send a tip to law enforcement if they spot someone.

www.wired.com


#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-24 05:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I find it hard to believe someone with a Master's in Criminal Justice isn't acutely aware of the racist and fascist overtones of contemporary police work.

You should find it hard to believe, because I am. Apologies for conveying otherwise.

I mean come on, who's the one person trying to get BOAZ to read The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness that provides objective evidence of exactly what you describe, so much so that it can be described as systematic.

The bold is exactly what I'm referring to.

It will only make them Back The Blue even harder.
#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I don't doubt it. And that's what I've resigned myself to: there is no changing of minds or curing any disease. The problems here are symptoms of choice, a choice to view and perceive reality in a way that lacks objectivity. Publicly shaming this group and it's leaders into acknowledging some basic tenets of reality or risk social, political, and capital ostracization would be the appropriate path moving forward. No doubt they'll maintain their erroneous believes in private, but the rhetoric will be no longer as public as it has been.

I believe that's the best we can hope for, sadly. I'm far more pessimistic than I am optimistic that we'll even get back to this once again being buried.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-24 05:52 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

That's beautiful and prime context of what I was envisioning. Does make me wonder if a tool like this, built by a college kid, is actually being utilized by the feds in their investigation. Or, do they have the man-power and know how to build a system just like it. It sounded as though they were relying heavily on the public to help identify the insurrectionists, but curious to hear whether they were smart enough to build a system like this kid did.

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-24 05:55 PM | Reply

Now that he's isolated the faces, the feds and NSA can run it through their super duper systems too.

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-24 06:00 PM | Reply

The public has and will be helping.

The facial recognition capabilities the feds have will fill in the blanks.

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-24 06:03 PM | Reply

My bad. I didn't express that in a constructive manner.
I do not exactly question your racial bona fides, but honestly racism is so pernicious I am sure there are times I don't see it and I engage in it without real awareness.

If we can just get people to think racism is wrong, I think a lot of these problems will get better.
But we have countless media outlets feeding as much racism and QAnon as you could ever want.

We must hold public officials at all levels to a minimum set of standards.
For my money, the way to do this is to have the United States join the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
But that too seems like an impossibility. This is the type of thing Democrats should focus on if they want to maintain control of Congress. Really show these Trumpers that a majority of Americans do not agree with them.

"No doubt they'll maintain their erroneous believes in private, but the rhetoric will be no longer as public as it has been."

Well, my assessment is that that's exactly what has been going on this whole time. Until 2016, when Trump told them it was okay to go public with it. I've been hearing this kind of talk my entire life, and acutely from the GOP if you listen to what Lee Atwater explained so famously. So, we shouldn't be okay with just waiting for the next Trump to make it okay again.

That's why we have to get people to think racism is wrong.

But it's a hard sell. The problem we face in this country and this economy is there aren't a lot of better offers knocking on the door. Take a Trumper your age, you think they'll "change teams" and go to school to get a STEM job? Leave behind their friends and family to start over, which has a lot of leaving a cult mechanics tied up in it. I know many people who'd like to move but just can't pull themselves away from their family ties. Then one day you turn 50 and you realize it's never happening. And it's those immigrants and liberals who took those better jobs that you never tried to get.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-24 06:12 PM | Reply

For my money, the way to do this is to have the United States join the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Interesting idea, I'll look more into that.

So, we shouldn't be okay with just waiting for the next Trump to make it okay again.

Agreed, yet I feel it's an inevitability considering the America's history of cultural development. The pendulum will once again swing back the other way.

And it's those immigrants and liberals who took those better jobs that you never tried to get.
#14 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

This was the exact sentiment offered to me by some random bar patron in rural Minnesota as he called me an Irish n***** while poking his finger in my chest. No, there is no pulling people like that back from the brink simply because there are too many of them.

A very interesting study that I'm still working through actually highlights this example:

Conflation of economic and cultural insecurity

The study is peppered with racialized language,
regardless of who the participants voted for. This
was particularly true when participants discussed
neighborhood change, economic decline, and
blame for societal problems. Recollections
of the past are seen through a period when
neighborhoods and cities were largely white and
working class, crime was low, and there was an
expansive pipeline from school to work, which
enabled the white working class to comfortably
support their families. This nostalgia sits in jarring
contrast with the current situation. Narratives
about demographic change link social and
economic decline with higher levels of crime and
greater competition for jobs. The American Dream
feels unattainable, with participants lamenting
disruption and loss of working-class spaces as well
as voice.

More than once participants mentioned
"strangers" in their own communities. People were
disconnected and disrupted by the conflation of
economic and cultural change. They felt less secure
about their economic situation and were concerned
about demographic changes that impacted local
and national security as well as what it means to
identify as an American. This "perfect storm," allied
with the loss of political voice, was the basis for
disconnection and rage against the establishment.

www.immigrationresearch.org

And more to your point specifically about getting people to not only acknowledge the issues surrounding race, but why racism should be perceived in the negative:

Denial of racism

It was not uncommon for a set of focus group
participants to see racism as less serious than in the
past, or less overt than before. For example, they
would point to making racial jokes as not being racist.
Some thought people of color were too sensitive.
Others tired of political correctness. Another focus
group in the same community would see things
entirely differently. One young woman who works
with mostly white men in the trades, identified some
of her co-workers as more outwardly racist. They
used "the n-word," discredited the work of African
American tradesmen, and blasted Trump speeches
in the workplace. This participant had spoken out
against this explicit racism in her work: "I've literally
told someone to shut the f__ up during lunch break."
(Dayton FG)


Some people, like BOAZ, believe we have (even to this day) been living in an Era of Colorblindness.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-01-24 07:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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