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Monday, January 25, 2021

If after reading about who all died as result of Timothy mcveigh's terrorism your first thought is defending militias you're dangerously sociopathic.

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Tone deaf douchebag his whole life.

#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-01-25 01:44 PM | Reply

Sen. Josh Hawley wrote a column in defense of militia members in the wake of Oklahoma City bombing when he was 15.

"Many of the people populating these movements are not radical, right-wing, pro-assault weapons freaks as they were originally stereotyped," Hawley wrote about militia groups. "Dismissed by the media and treated with disdain by their elected leaders, these citizens come together and form groups that often draw more media fire as anti-government hate gatherings."

"Feeling alienated from their government and the rest of society, they often become disenchanted and slip into talks of 'conspiracy theories' about how the federal government is out to get them," he added.


This was when he was 15. Hawley knows his people. He knows what triggers them. He knows how to get them worked up enough to storm the capitol building.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-25 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

More from Hawley:

Also in the column, Hawley said former Los Angeles police detective Mark Fuhrman was being unfairly depicted as a racist after his use of racial slurs became known during the OJ Simpson trial.

"In this politically correct society, derogatory labels such as 'racist' are widely misused, and our ability to have open debate is eroding," he wrote.


There are posters who would probably agree with this statement.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-25 01:56 PM | Reply

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I would never have defended Mark Fuhrman for being called a racist.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-25 02:00 PM | Reply

#4

I don't think you would either.

I was commenting more about the idea the the word "racist" is widely misused.

Thankfully we still haven't lost our ability to openly debate.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-25 02:13 PM | Reply

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Agreed.

but I do think the term has been overused.

Many people ignore the accusation now because they've lost their sense of outrage over it.

I'm referring to how the term is used in politics.

Which term has more political harm attached to it?

racist?

or

socialist?

sadly, it's socialist.

After hammering GWB, Mitt Romney, and a dozen other GOP candidates for president over the past 8 years or so, with the term "racist", people have become desensitized to it.

Along comes Trump, who openly and outwardly embraces every all all white pride/racist group possible in his bid for president and wins despite that. Tens of millions of Americans voted for Trump ignored those accusations...... and they were TRUE.

And to what extent it's been overused? I don't know....I just see the consequence of it.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-25 02:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#6

I read something not to long ago. I wish I could remember what it was, if I do I'll post the article.

But it basically said that when people think "racism" they usually picture klansmen in robes lighting crosses.

They don't see it in the way a store may treat people differently or the methods used to hire employees. Little things that are over looked by society.

It was a good article and my paraphrasing doesn't do it justice.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-01-25 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Feeling alienated from their government and the rest of society, they often become disenchanted and slip into talks of 'conspiracy theories' about how the federal government is out to get them." www.businessinsider.com

He told his own future!

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-25 03:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"In this politically correct society, derogatory labels such as 'racist' are widely misused, and our ability to have open debate is eroding," he wrote.

Is this Hawley guy JeffJ?
That's exactly what JeffJ would say!

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-25 03:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Many people ignore the accusation now because they've lost their sense of outrage over it."

^
Only racists, and apologists for racists, do that.
Many people, you see, are racists and apologists for racists.
Though it should be stated that such people never had a sense of outrage over racism to begin with.
Instead, they had faux outrage. A phenomenon you have called out many times, Eberly.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-25 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

-But it basically said that when people think "racism" they usually picture klansmen in robes lighting crosses.

Yes, good point. Less obvious forms of racism aren't seen as racism in their eyes.

which is why they aren't impacted by the accusation.

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-25 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Less obvious forms of racism aren't seen as racism in their eyes."

Date rape isn't seen as rape in lots of people's eyes.
We used to teach "No means no."
But clever people like Brett Kavanaugh figured out, if she's passed out drunk and doesn't say "no," then by the "No means no" standard, it's not rape.
So then we invented "informed consent."

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-25 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"which is why they aren't impacted by the accusation."

But they are impacted.
They fight back, say they aren't racists.
Say things like they're just preserving their heritage.
As though if a heritage is racist, it's not racist to preserve it.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-25 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Snoofy, don't waste your faux trolling outrage on me.

You can go bother someone else with it....try speakstupid. That whore must love you.

You're just trolling. Nothing more.

I'm off to a basketball game.

you can go ahead and post towards me 4 or 5 times more after I leave.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2021-01-25 04:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Eberly, since you brought it up,

Here is another example of whites who would swear up and down they aren't racist... openly supporting institutional racism:

A viral video forced a wealthy Texas suburb to confront racism. A 'silent majority' fought back.
www.nbcnews.com

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-25 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hawley The Seditionist needs to be expelled from the U.S. Senate. When he was sworn in, he took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. He failed very publicly and commiserated with the insurrectionists.

Time for Hawley to go.

#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-26 04:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

"Time for Hawley to go."

#16 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Have patience. First thing first. Hawley and Cruz are on Chuck Schumer's menu. They can't be impeached but they can be expelled.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-01-26 06:32 AM | Reply

How the hell is he, Cruz, and that crazy jihadist Boebert not in Gitmo right this second.

I've almost pulled all of my hair out over the Dem's ---------------.

But not surprised.

#18 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-01-26 09:26 AM | Reply

There here in the 405 those who were around on that sad, bad day are like your typical guy or lady who saw combat in war. After about three words they don't want to talk about it. Josh Hawley should walk through the Oklahoma City National Memorial. Twice. McVeigh and Nichols and their associates are clearly portrayed as domestic terrorists, a description which fits them well. People in Oklahoma are nice, but 20 years on from the bombing I doubt any of that characteristic would be shared to this moron Hawley, were he to come here and repeat what he wrote as a callow youth...

#19 | Posted by catdog at 2021-01-26 01:18 PM | Reply

25 years--sorry. Time doesn't make that memory fade...

#20 | Posted by catdog at 2021-01-26 01:19 PM | Reply

Ut tempus fugit --- sunt frui te.

Time flies when you're having fun.

#21 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-01-27 06:53 PM | Reply

Hawley is a complete douche, but I remember people were blaming militias at time using the guilt-by-degrees-of-kevin-bacon fallacy. He was probably reacting to that.

I'm sure some of the resident idiots here will twist my words, so let me be clear: there may very well have been specific militia groups at the time that fomented such activity, but to portray all of them that way as well as talk radio hosts (even Art Bell, FFS!) was a lie.

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-01-27 08:38 PM | Reply

I suspect the majority of militia members are racist dbags. The type of white men who open carry in the grocery store.

You want to join an actual active militia? Join your state's National Guard. Anything else is Call of Duty cosplay.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-27 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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