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Friday, January 29, 2021

Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian. Yuri Shvets, posted to Washington by the Soviet Union in the 1980s, compares the former US president to "the Cambridge five", the British spy ring that passed secrets to Moscow during the second world war and early cold war.

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The ex-major recalled: "For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery.

"This is what they exploited. They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: it is people like him who could change the world. They fed him these so-called active measures soundbites and it happened. So it was a big achievement for the KGB active measures at the time."

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What jumped out at me in the article:

Trump's election win in 2016 was again welcomed by Moscow. Special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. But the Moscow Project, an initiative of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, found the Trump campaign and transition team had at least 272 known contacts and at least 38 known meetings with Russia-linked operatives.

Shvets, who has carried out his own investigation, said: "For me, the Mueller report was a big disappointment because people expected that it will be a thorough investigation of all ties between Trump and Moscow, when in fact what we got was an investigation of just crime-related issues. There were no counterintelligence aspects of the relationship between Trump and Moscow."

He added: "This is what basically we decided to correct. So I did my investigation and then got together with Craig. So we believe that his book will pick up where Mueller left off."

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-29 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

They (like most other countries)are more patent than we are.

#2 | Posted by bat4255 at 2021-01-29 11:20 AM | Reply

As i wrote on DR several times during the last four years, the Kremlin frequently celebrated with champagne their victory over the UsA without firing a single shot. Confirmed now.

#3 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-01-29 11:27 AM | Reply

Duh, he literally had secret meetings and phone calls with Putin while President.
His supporters don't care. Better to be Russian than Dem, right?

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-01-29 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you get your news from Fox News you would never even have suspected Trump of anything like this. Those traitors who invaded the Capital would probably do bodily harm to you if you tried to tell them about this.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2021-01-29 12:23 PM | Reply

Wait, so it took them 40 years to cultivate someone who really didn't do all that much for Russia except agree with them on stuff but, so far, they haven't claimed Biden but he has done more for Russia in his first week than Trump did his entire tenure. I think Biden did good things with his EOs so I'm not trying to put him down and I also am not a person like so many DR Libs who refuse to scrutinize their own party's decisions. Biden did good things but there are always positives and negatives to those decisions, and the EOs benefited Russia more than anyone else, including America (until replacement strategies are created for those EOs, of course).

So does that means Libs are OK with helping Russia in every way possible as long as it's not Russia asking for it? I mean, OK, but that seems really stupid.

#6 | Posted by humtake at 2021-01-29 12:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There has been no doubt in my mind over that last several years that Trump is a Russian asset. The only serious question I've had is if Trump even knows it. Trump may not even realize he mostly works for the best interests of Putin. Although I still think there could be some financial leverage at play, as long as every string the Russians pull strokes Trumps vanity and ego, I could see where he would remain blissfully unaware. The Russians would be able to use such an asset to inflict enormous damage, without ever really giving him direct orders. It's even possible that within his circle there are direct connections to Moscow. And those closer to Trump, those who have his ear, have made the suggestions that influence Trump to create weakness within our system that may then be exploited. Fire a good man here... Cut the funding for some important program there... Next thing you know, most of the secure computers in our country have been compromised for months.

The fact that our intelligence bodies in the U.S. still fail to openly acknowledge that Trump has weakened our security and undermined us at every turn to expose our vulnerabilities to the Russians for exploitation, is immensely disturbing. Sometimes it makes me wonder where else our top security personal have been compromised. Perhaps they are simply too embarrassed to acknowledge what's actually happened and begin to correct the problems? Or maybe the ones who could really expose what's happened are too absorbed in the money they'll make from their book deals.

Most of the division and discontent in the U.S. has also acted as a significant distraction. Though that discontent has now been stirred to such a fevered pitch that it may very well serve to destroy this country on its own. Unless America wakes up soon, unless we realize how we've been played against each other to arrive at this point, what we've all grown up thinking America was is at huge peril.

Republicans are caught up in a perception that their America has been stolen by the "communist Democrats". Conventional Democrats can't see past Biden's signing to the series of Executive Orders, mitigating what they perceive as the worst of Trumps damage. In truth most Americas are too self absorbed to even see past their next paychecks. While American government plays this silly game of tossing Presidential Orders back and forth, rather than actually governing by good legislation, the Russians play a long game. A game they've been patiently playing for decades. I don't know how this country will survive.

#7 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-01-29 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

OK, but that seems really stupid.

#6 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

A stupid brain thinks stupid thoughts?

Did your little conservotard brain make up thoughts that seem stupid?

Shocking!

Stop sniffing your own farts and believing your own nonsense and honestly there really is no need to share that crap your stupid brain creates with us. You are just embarrassing yourself.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-29 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Hidden History of Trump's First Trip to Moscow
www.politico.com

...It was 1984 and General Vladimir Alexandrovich Kryuchkov had a problem. The general occupied one of the KGB's most exalted posts. He was head of the First Chief Directorate, the prestigious KGB arm responsible for gathering foreign intelligence.

Kryuchkov had begun his career with five years at the Soviet mission in Budapest under Ambassador Yuri Andropov. In 1967 Andropov became KGB chairman. Kryuchkov went to Moscow, took up a number of sensitive posts, and established a reputation as a devoted and hardworking officer. By 1984, Kryuchkov's directorate in Moscow was bigger than ever before"12,000 officers, up from about 3,000 in the 1960s. His headquarters at Yasenevo, on the wooded southern outskirts of the city, was expanding: Workmen were busy constructing a 22-story annex and a new 11-story building.

In politics, change was in the air. Soon a new man would arrive in the Kremlin, Mikhail Gorbachev. Gorbachev's policy of detente with the West"a refreshing contrast to the global confrontation of previous general secretaries"meant the directorate's work abroad was more important than ever.

Kryuchkov faced several challenges. First, a hawkish president, Ronald Reagan, was in power in Washington. The KGB regarded his two predecessors, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter, as weak. By contrast Reagan was seen as a potent adversary. The directorate was increasingly preoccupied with what it believed"wrongly"was an American plot to conduct a preemptive nuclear strike against the USSR.

It was around this time that Donald Trump appears to have attracted the attention of Soviet intelligence. How that happened, and where that relationship began, is an answer hidden somewhere in the KGB's secret archives. Assuming, that is, that the documents still exist.

Trump's first visit to Soviet Moscow in 1987 looks, with hindsight, to be part of a pattern. The dossier by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele asserts that the Kremlin had been cultivating Trump for "at least five years" before his stunning victory in the 2016 US presidential election. This would take us back to around 2011 or 2012.

In fact, the Soviet Union was interested in him too, three decades earlier. The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans. ...


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-01-29 01:07 PM | Reply

OK, now do Mitch McConnell.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-01-29 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Considering that Ret Gen Mike Flynn is up to his neck in the psyop Qanon, he may well be Trump's handler.

drudge.com

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-29 01:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

www.golocalprov.com

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-29 01:41 PM | Reply

Michael Flynn's Russia Timeline

www.factcheck.org

So, Vlad not only had his puppet Trump, but Trump's Nat Security Advisor as well.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-29 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

(CNN) " Russian officials bragged in conversations during the presidential campaign that they had cultivated a strong relationship with former Trump adviser retired Gen. Michael Flynn and believed they could use him to influence Donald Trump and his team, sources told CNN.

The conversations deeply concerned US intelligence officials, some of whom acted on their own to limit how much sensitive information they shared with Flynn, who was tapped to become Trump's national security adviser, current and former governments officials said.

"This was a five-alarm fire from early on," one former Obama administration official said, "the way the Russians were talking about him." Another former administration official said Flynn was viewed as a potential national security problem.

The conversations picked up by US intelligence officials indicated the Russians regarded Flynn as an ally, sources said. That relationship developed throughout 2016, months before Flynn was caught on an intercepted call in December speaking with Russia's ambassador in Washington, Sergey Kislyak. That call, and Flynn's changing story about it, ultimately led to his firing as Trump's first national security adviser."

www.cnn.com

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-29 01:54 PM | Reply

Ex-KGB Spy: We Cultivated Trump for 40 Years

Republicans and Independents: Clinton's Fault!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-29 01:58 PM | Reply

Let's talk about what Mattis said about the Capitol....

www.youtube.com

Longtime Intel insiders know what's happening.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2021-01-29 02:21 PM | Reply

How many contacts with Russian agents have occurred by the Biden Administration now or during his campaign?

I am going with approximately one.

By this time Trumpy and his minions had made hundreds of contacts with Russian operatives.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-29 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is a Russian tool, and so are his supporters.

Treason!

#18 | Posted by horstngraben at 2021-01-29 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Enabled by corporations connected to Russian money, this criminal network has successfully infiltrated and disrupted our system because we coddle to Republicans. They should be exterminated as a party altogether, and it appears to be happening even now.

Defund, investigate and incarcerate.

#19 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2021-01-29 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember Kushner's attempt to install a secret, direct phone line with Moscow at the Russian DC Embassy?

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-29 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is why the russia investigation wasn't allowed to look into anything in trump's past or finances.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-01-29 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This quite obviously extends to the bulk of the GOP.
Why else would they rally round a Russian operative?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-01-29 05:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's start a go fund me to move 75,000,000 traitors to Russia.

#23 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2021-01-29 06:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's easier to believe Trump is a Russian asset than it to believe he's smart enough to know this.

#24 | Posted by rcade at 2021-01-29 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

So does that means Libs are OK with helping Russia in every way possible as long as it's not Russia asking for it? I mean, OK, but that seems really stupid.

#6 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2021-01-29 12:25 PM | FLAG: | FUNNY: 1

I generally don't bother responding to you because you're a complete idiot. But really, you should shut up and stop embarrassing yourself further.

If you can't see how Russia-compromised the moron called Trump was by now, you're one of the hopeless.

#25 | Posted by cbob at 2021-01-29 07:06 PM | Reply

"he may well be Trump's handler."

Wow.

When I read that I thought, "Wow, if that is true it's so strange that it is not even a surprisingly shocking or remote possibility anymore."

Good find.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-30 10:58 AM | Reply

Duh, he literally had secret meetings and phone calls with Putin while President.
His supporters don't care. Better to be Russian than Dem, right?
#4 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST AT 2021-01-29 11:47 AM | REPLY

you nailed it. for the (don't need the "alt" prefix anymore) Right, better to even be fascist or nazi than Dem.
indeed, they've decided against democracy without a 'council' veto.

#27 | Posted by ichiro at 2021-01-30 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The irony is that this follows a logical path of reasoning and seems possible, especially considering the cl0wns go for celebrity candidates like Reagan, Eastman, Bono, and Trumptidumpter. Generally speaking, it's about the believers of the "Keynan conspiracy" where a negro Muslim half-breed takes over the US government to prevent the second coming of Jayzus sect.

Has anyone ever noticed that the smattering of gossip rags in the supermarket check-out lines? They are among the few things left in print. Contained therein is everything a republiclown needs to keep the upper hand. They believe themselves informed about the things the government doesn't want them to know.

Just enough stupid to flip elections in gerrymander land.

#28 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-01-31 03:34 AM | Reply

I have a couple of questions.

Don't read into this "what I really mean" by these questions, or I'm supporting Trump or republicans just because I'm a blind follower, because I'm not.

I do questions, though.

Who in the news media and political circles are discussing the content of the book, and not simply reporting the book itself and the "implied connections"?

Why wasn't this Yuri Shvets brought out during the Russian investigations?

Also, why is the Washington Post saying this about the book,

"That said, it is not an argument meant to stand up to the scrutiny of a criminal court (that would require evidence hidden in Russian intelligence files). Instead, it is a counterintelligence case, a circumstantial compilation of patterns, relationships and logical inferences."

Ok...forget the blind Trump follower routine and answer my questions.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-01-31 04:46 AM | Reply

answer my questions.

#29 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Why? Why should anyone expend an ounce of energy explaining anything to you? Nothing can convince you of anything while you wallow in your self righteousness.

Attempting to explain anything to a Trumptilian is apparently an exercise in futility.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-31 08:50 AM | Reply

"Why wasn't this Yuri Shvets brought out during the Russian investigations?"

Because Mueller was limited to a criminal investigation and didn't do a counterintelligence investigation:

NYT: Rosenstein curtailed counterintelligence probe into Trump's Russia ties

www.axios.com

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-31 09:30 AM | Reply

"That said, it is not an argument meant to stand up to the scrutiny of a criminal court (that would require evidence hidden in Russian intelligence files). Instead, it is a counterintelligence case, a circumstantial compilation of patterns, relationships and logical inferences."

Anyone who is waiting for recent "evidence hidden in Russian intelligence files" is going to have a long wait. That said:

Archive material in Prague reveals that the Czechoslovak secret police first began spying on #Trump in 1977, after he married a woman from behind the Iron Curtain, Ivana Zelnkov. The StB intelligence service shared its product with the #KGB

twitter.com

'A very different world'--inside the Czech spying operation on Trump

Exclusive: files reveal Trump was the target of an extensive spying operation in the late 1980s by the country's intelligence service, with friends' from the KGB

www.theguardian.com

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-31 09:37 AM | Reply

Donner,

Are you sure you don't mean you weren't able to answer my questions?

#33 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-01-31 09:40 AM | Reply

"Also, why is the Washington Post saying this about the book"

Here is the article that contains the quote you mention, written by John Sipher (Former CIA Clandestine Service):

Luke Harding @lukeharding1968

Here's @john_sipher's piece on #KGB and the cultivation of Donald #Trump. Agree with his conclusion: yes, #Moscow sought to compromise Trump but its precise hold over the #US ex-president is still unclear

John Sipher @john_sipher

Replying to @lukeharding1968
Here's my take. I wouldn't put as much stake in Shvets as others.

Piling up incriminating information about Trump's Russian connections

That said, it is not an argument meant to stand up to the scrutiny of a criminal court (that would require evidence hidden in Russian intelligence files). Instead, it is a counterintelligence case, a circumstantial compilation of patterns, relationships and logical inferences. Even though counterintelligence probes often do not lead to arrests, the stakes of such investigations may be of far more serious consequence. We have learned over the past several years that many of the most important firewalls in our democracy are not necessarily written in the legal code. It may not be a crime for a presidential candidate to seek to make money from a hostile foreign power and lie about it, but it is potentially a far more serious challenge to our system.

www.washingtonpost.com

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-31 09:46 AM | Reply

"Donner,
Are you sure you don't mean you weren't able to answer my questions?"

If I may, I think he meant, based on your posting history, he doesn't think anyone will be able to answer your questions to your satisfaction. I attempted some answers anyway, for the record as they say.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-01-31 09:49 AM | Reply

Are you sure you don't mean you weren't able to answer my questions?

#33 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

No.

I mean it's not worth MY time. And though I admire gal and others for their patience I have none left.

We've answered yours and other questions for years here. Hasn't changed one mind that I am aware of. It took an attack on the US Capitol to make some people see the light. I have seen the videos. My patience is gone. Got boiled away when my blood boiled.

But today is National Hot Chocolate Day and I think celebrating that is much more important than holding your maga hand today.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-31 10:01 AM | Reply

Re 35.

Exactly.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-01-31 10:02 AM | Reply

Bill doesn't take it in the ___ irl anymore but he still needs it so desperately that he comes here and begs people to give it to him rhetorically on a regular basis. You're probably saving his marriage by obliging him.

#38 | Posted by molestedone at 2021-01-31 10:20 AM | Reply

#36 National Hot Chocolate Day is good but I'm holding out for next Saturday. National Eat Ice Cream for Breakfast Day!

#39 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-01-31 11:33 AM | Reply

Gal,

"If I may, I think he meant, based on your posting history, he doesn't think anyone will be able to answer your questions to your satisfaction. I attempted some answers anyway, for the record as they say."

Based on my "posting history", you would know I don't consider myself qualified to claim I "know" the truth.

I'm certainly not going to form opinions based on the word of a former KBG spy.

Thanks for being civil and giving me something more to consider.

This book is new and I'll be curious to see how this plays out.

If it doesn't gain any traction in the media, that will tell me plenty.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-01-31 11:39 AM | Reply

Let's start a go fund me to move 75,000,000 traitors to Russia.

#23 | Posted by Yodagirl

Plenty of open land in Siberia!

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-01-31 01:56 PM | Reply

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