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Everything is bigger in Texas.
Including easily preventable power outages!

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-17 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Deregulation fails again

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-02-17 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Green New Deal will prevent this from ever happening again.

#3 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-17 01:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

AOC caused all of this!!!!

And Kamala too!!!!!

#4 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2021-02-17 02:37 PM | Reply

Ethnic ladies are the real culprit!!!

#5 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2021-02-17 02:37 PM | Reply

The Green New Deal will prevent this from ever happening again.

#3 | Posted by madbomber

It won't make it worse.

The home of fossil fuels couldn't keep their lights on after saying california power outages were proof that liberalism was a failure.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-17 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It is so pathetic. When something bad happens in a 'Blue' state, rightwingers all rush to claim it is the result of stupid liberal policies. When something bad happens in a 'Red' partisan liberals all rush to claim it is the result of stupid right wing policies. Can those of us politically inclined and of partisan persuasion conceive of the truth that the vast majority of problems, both natural and man-made, are not the result of any political ideology? Or is that too complex an idea for most of us?

#7 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-02-17 03:01 PM | Reply

It is so pathetic. When something bad happens in a 'Blue' state, rightwingers all rush to claim it is the result of stupid liberal policies. When something bad happens in a 'Red' partisan liberals all rush to claim it is the result of stupid right wing policies. Can those of us politically inclined and of partisan persuasion conceive of the truth that the vast majority of problems, both natural and man-made, are not the result of any political ideology? Or is that too complex an idea for most of us?

#7 | Posted by moder8

It's not a BOTH SIDES problem. California's problems are the result of it's economic success, great weather, and so many people wanting to be there that it makes it very expensive. Kansas' problems are the result of them cutting taxes so low that they had to switch to 4 day school weeks.

Texas was talking about secession over their cult leader not being allowed to steal the election 2 weeks ago, now they're pleading for federal aid.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-17 03:23 PM | Reply

No, it was never on the agenda in Texas. The problem with the Internet is that it would lead you to believe that niche ideologies are somehow mainstream.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-17 03:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The problem with the Internet is that it would lead you to believe that niche ideologies are somehow mainstream.
#9 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

^
This is perfect, coming from a Libertarian!

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-17 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#10 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-02-17 03:41 PM | FLAG:

Make sure you stay outraged.

Meanwhile, here in the frozen.. uh... South, we've got a complete failure of every power generation type because people don't winterize anything. Since this is Texas, the House will drag the utilities on the floor and make a show about them winterizing. The utilities will say no, but we'll make new procedures, and the state will agree to that because they're all bought by the utilities. We'll be back here in 10 years. I'll be warm, or cool when the natural disasters hit again, because of fossil fuel redundancy detached from the state cronyism. Solar can't keep the AC unfortunately.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-17 03:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Makes sense now why Gracie was going on about the Green New Deal and TX's power failure on yesterday's Nooner; she was just regurgitating FOX News and GOP lies. I called her out on it, but she didn't respond.

Folks like Gracie and other GOPers are so gullible. They are incapable of any critical thinking what-so-ever.

#12 | Posted by horstngraben at 2021-02-17 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Power outages linger for millions as another icy storm looms
apnews.com

...Utility crews raced Wednesday to restore power to nearly 3.4 million customers around the U.S. who were still without electricity in the aftermath of a deadly winter storm, and another blast of ice and snow threatened to sow more chaos.

The latest storm front was expected to bring more hardship to states that are unaccustomed to such frigid weather -- parts of Texas, Arkansas and the Lower Mississippi Valley -- before moving into the Northeast on Thursday.

"There's really no letup to some of the misery people are feeling across that area," said Bob Oravec, lead forecaster with the National Weather Service, referring to Texas....


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-02-17 04:00 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, here in the frozen.. uh... South, we've got a complete failure of every power generation type because people don't winterize anything. Since this is Texas, the House will drag the utilities on the floor and make a show about them winterizing. The utilities will say no, but we'll make new procedures, and the state will agree to that because they're all bought by the utilities. We'll be back here in 10 years. I'll be warm, or cool when the natural disasters hit again, because of fossil fuel redundancy detached from the state cronyism. Solar can't keep the AC unfortunately.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And texans will re elect the same corrupt morons because being frozen and abused by republicans is better than letting dems fix anything.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-17 04:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to Bloomberg and other news outlets, Texas electricity generators were warned about the need to make weather-resistant upgrades in 2011, after an earlier cold snap that lasted days.

Texasses: can't tell them anything. They think they are in Heaven, when they're just stuck--in Texas...

#15 | Posted by catdog at 2021-02-17 04:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Womp womp.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-17 04:58 PM | Reply

@#15 ... According to Bloomberg and other news outlets, Texas electricity generators were warned about the need to make weather-resistant upgrades in 2011, after an earlier cold snap that lasted days. ...

Report on Outages and Curtailments During the Southwest Cold Weather Event of February 1-5, 2011 (PDF)
www.ferc.gov

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-02-17 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I read a good one on this over on Gizmodo. It was really interesting they brought up the Qspiracies about green energy and essentially had a laugh at their expense.

Compounding issues:
Grid is built for the extreme summer heat and not winter cold.
Power plants go offline in the winter for maintenance for that reason.
About half the people heat with Gas and half Electric.
I think the figure was 60% of power is still Gas generated.
The Natural Gas infrastructure is not built to handle the demand.
The refineries shut down on Monday. Well heads froze, etc.

#18 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-02-17 05:19 PM | Reply

"The Natural Gas infrastructure is not built to handle the demand."

I am not buying that one. We use more NG in summer these days to run AC, than we use in winter for heating.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-17 05:23 PM | Reply

And texans will re elect the same corrupt morons because being frozen and abused by republicans is better than letting dems fix anything.

#14 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-02-17 04:45 PM | FLAG:

Some of them. I don't think Abbott is going to poll well after this one, the slow march to blue continues.

Even when it goes blue, I'll still keep propane tanks and tri-fuel generator because it's not really about party here, it's power and money and the people that would have run as Republicans would just run as Democrats, and Democrats here that want to win run as Republicans.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-17 05:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Even when it goes blue, I'll still keep propane tanks and tri-fuel generator because it's not really about party here, it's power and money and the people that would have run as Republicans would just run as Democrats, and Democrats here that want to win run as Republicans.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg

That's the old model. In the new model, democrats are evil demons from hell and unless you oppose them on absolutely everything, you're a gay demonic communist baby killer. You can't just switch sides anymore when one has been brainwashed into utter delusion.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-17 06:11 PM | Reply

The liars have to blame somebody, they won't blame themselves or their donors for lack of foresight, or the markets, or deregulation, so they will blame the non-existent Green New Deal, ignoring the fact that much colder places like Iowa and Denmark seem to get power from windmills during cold periods just fine. Washington State has lots of windmills throughout the central part of the state that often gets snow and freezing cold temps, and they don't seem to suffer the same fate as free markets TX. Since the GQP wants secessession so badly, I'd suggest that President Biden not send them federal help. Since anti-federal TX doesn't need any of that dirty librul money, they can come up with their own market-based solutions to people freezing and starving due to lack of energy. Of course in the end I'll support federal aid going to TX, in spite of them supporting Dotard when he denied aid to CA because they didn't rake the floors of federal forests.

#22 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-02-17 06:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You can't just switch sides anymore when one has been brainwashed into utter delusion.

#21 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-02-17 06:11 PM | FLAG:

In the rural districts it's more challenging now, but in the suburbs where the money is at, it will always be done.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-17 06:20 PM | Reply

In the rural districts it's more challenging now, but in the suburbs where the money is at, it will always be done.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Polarization is much higher now. There is the fascist side and the democracy side. You can't just switch back and forth. Voters are paying too much attention.

The fascists wouldnt vote for someone who used to be a liberal. And the democracy side wouldnt vote for a fascist insurrection supporter.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-17 06:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#18 ... The Natural Gas infrastructure is not built to handle the demand. ...

Possibly... the natural gas needs pumps to flow through the pipelines. Those pumps need electricity.

When the power plants stop due to the cold, there is no electricity to drive the pumps needed to ump the gas to the power plants...

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-02-17 07:06 PM | Reply

...natural gas needs pumps to flow through the pipelines. Those pumps need electricity.

Not necessarily. The compressor station I worked at used Allison gas turbine engines to drive the compressors, fueled by the same natural gas they were pumping.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-02-17 07:22 PM | Reply

Voters are paying too much attention.

#24 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-02-17 06:47 PM | FLAG:

People can't even name the state reps they vote for.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-17 10:57 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Polarization is much higher now.
#24 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

^
You are explaining this to a Libertarian. He is a polarizing agent. It's like trying to explain to a fish that water is wet. What is water?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-17 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"People can't even name the state reps they vote for."

I care what they stand for.
The names are of no consequence.

That being said, you're right, and since you seem to be lamenting the problem, maybe you can bring me up to speed on how libertarian policies towards abolishing public education further the goal of having an educated public.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-17 11:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remind me again why should Joe Biden help Texas when Texas won't even recognize that he's president?

#30 | Posted by Tor at 2021-02-18 01:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Several years ago on the local evening news, one of the power commission's bigwigs was being interviewed live about all the new massive high-voltage interties being routed through Waco. He -------- it as being because of the "green energy" windfarm boondoggles in west Texas.

Four hours later, at 10:00 pm, his demeanor was radically different. He looked like he'd just witnessed an autopsy. He changed his tune and was stoically praising the green revolution for supplying Texas with so much power. I can only suppose someone higher up than he had ------------ him, rightfully so.

You'd think conservatives would be more into conservation instead of trying to denigrate it at every opportunity.

#31 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-02-18 04:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TOR

"Remind me again why should Joe Biden help Texas when Texas won't even recognize that he's president?"

Because you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

And also because to do otherwise would make him act like Donald Trump did. Biden doesn't require a swearing of fealty to assist a state in need. As he said so himself, he's going to be the President for everybody whether they voted for him or not.

I know it's going to take a while to get used to but that's what a true-blue leader does.

In fact, that's what anybody with an ounce of class does. IOW, that makes Trump the dumpster diver of presidents. He should be living in a cardboard refrigerator box under a freeway.

#32 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-02-18 06:41 AM | Reply

Snoofy, Libertarians don't have to do anything. Our party, the Democrat one, won't reopen public schools and is causing the most massive shift to private, charter, and homeschooling in history. They thank you for being their accelerationist. As for me, I am no longer on private school boards and my kids go to public school now and I very much enjoy the system and am pretty okay with the property taxes that make it happen or I would just move somewhere else.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 08:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

And Snoofy celebrating the cluelessness. Don't know their names, then you don't know their policies, you've done zero research beyond a letter and apparently slept through your own primaries. I don't. blame you, in California I would too. In Texas, it's how you learn that Beto for all his talk is damn near a Texas Republican when it came to voting on state issues.

#34 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 08:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Texas: we're off the US grid cuz eff the feds
Texas: *gets typical Canadian winter*
Texas: *accepts federal disaster money*

#35 | Posted by Gunderfunk at 2021-02-18 08:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ted Cruz has fled the state for essential business in... Cancun.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 09:18 AM | Reply

@#26 ... fueled by the same natural gas they were pumping. ...

Thanks for the correction. That makes sense, in a way.

Still a similar problem, though --- no natural gas, the pumps don't work.

#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-02-18 09:30 AM | Reply

This is what you get when you think you are immune to climate changes.

Play stupid games ... win stupid prizes.

Enjoy your prize Texas.

We have a few extra Trumpy rakes lying around.

Perhaps you didn't rake enough?

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-02-18 09:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Definitely not on fire. Coal is about to get popular again though unfortunately.

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 10:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Definitely not on fire."

Just the opposite. So what. It's not supposed to make sense.

You can use the rakes to rake the snow!

It would make as much sense as using rakes to prevent wildfires.

Don't need no Trumpy rakes?

How about some Trumpy paper towels?

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-02-18 10:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by sadbomber

And sadbomber will continue to make unequivocally idiotic assertions every time he opens his fuggin pie-hole.

#41 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-02-18 11:02 AM | Reply

Just the opposite. So what. It's not supposed to make sense.

#40 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2021-02-18 10:27 AM | FLAG:

Better to be in layers than stripping them off before you're on fire lol. They had to explain layering to many people here but they adapted.

#42 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Speaking of Libertariclowns... Ted Cruz is sitting the power outage out in Cancun. WTG republicl0wns.

#43 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-02-18 11:30 AM | Reply

Libterian and Cruz in the same sentence? How did that happen. Last week he was aligned with Fascism.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 11:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Libterian and Cruz in the same sentence? How did that happen. Last week he was aligned with Fascism.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Libertarianism was a phase or a ploy. Fascism is his true dedication. He helped start the fascist riot, and will be forever known as part of the fascist riot to overthrow democracy.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-18 12:05 PM | Reply

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg

No surprise idiot libertarians can't see the connection...LOL!

#46 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-02-18 12:22 PM | Reply

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Libertarians are just fascist hypocrites on steroids.

#47 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-02-18 12:26 PM | Reply

When something bad happens in a 'Red' partisan liberals all rush to claim it is the result of stupid right wing policies.

Except for the fact, the current fate of Texas due to deregulation and privatization of the state's power grid.

Which is a "stupid Rightwing policy."

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-02-18 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Texas: *accepts federal disaster money*

They've never had a problem accepting federal disaster money.

Its paying it back that always makes them cry.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-02-18 12:48 PM | Reply

Angrydad is an excellent example of the need for greatly expanding mental healthcare access in this country.

#50 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 02:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"The home of fossil fuels couldn't keep their lights on after saying California power outages were proof that liberalism was a failure."

What was the highly unusual, almost unimaginable phenomenon that drove the California power outages. I'm not tracking any.

#51 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-18 02:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"And texans will re elect the same corrupt morons because being frozen and abused by republicans is better than letting dems fix anything."

What would the Dems do? As you aptly illustrated, they couldn't even keep the lights on under relatively normal atmospheric conditions.

I guess Texas could mandate that houses be built to the same specs as those you would find in North Dakota. Spend money on snowplows and de-icing equipment. Copy how the northern tier states have tackled the sub-zero weather problem...but that's going to be a lot of money. So you're stuck convincing taxpayers to shell out money for something that they will likely never see again in their lifetimes.

These are problems that Dems can't solve...not unless the people in the state are on board. And if they are, then it doesn't really matter who is in charge.

#52 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-18 02:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What was the highly unusual, almost unimaginable phenomenon that drove the California power outages. I'm not tracking any.

#51 | Posted by madbomber

Cold weather is unimaginable? Their regulatory agencies were told to prepare for this, they simply ignored the rules because they knew they wouldnt get in trouble in a state run by corruption.

If it was unimaginable, why were they told to prepare?

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-18 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Cold weather is unimaginable?"

Yes.

I lived in Minot, North Dakota for eight years. The way those houses are constructed is very different than the way my house in Louisiana was constructed. And I didn't look, but I suspect it would be incredibly difficult to find a house in Louisiana that is built to the same specs as a house in North Dakota.

You could do it...the technology exists in the south. But when having to choose between spending money on equipping a house for arctic conditions, or using that same money for something else...it's almost always going to be the "something else."

My buddy who is still living in LA posted a screen shot of his phone on Sunday. It was 1F. That's the coldest temp they had seen since 1903. In the five years I lived there, it never got below mid 20s.

"If it was unimaginable, why were they told to prepare?"

I lived in Texas for four years at different times. From the Gulf Coast to San Antonio. I was never told to prepare for anything like this. Nor was I told to prepare for something like what Louisiana experienced when I lived there.

#54 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-18 03:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Insurance knew it was coming and issued moratoriums on new commercial policies.

#55 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 03:14 PM | Reply

And Snoofy celebrating the cluelessness. Don't know their names, then you don't know their policies, you've done zero research beyond a letter and apparently slept through your own primaries.
#34 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

California sends the top two from the primary to the election -- even when they're from the same party.
When that happens, I have to do research. Which Republican or Democrat is less awful?
Otherwise, I simply vote against the one whose party wants to make abortion illegal, the minimum wage illegal, and green power illegal.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-18 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why Did Wind Turbines Freeze in Texas When They Work in the Arctic?

www.newsweek.com

#57 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-02-18 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I guess Texas could mandate that houses be built to the same specs as those you would find in North Dakota"

Actually, they should mandate the windmills be winterized to the same specs you'd find in North Dakota.
And they they should impose price controls on natural gas.
Those two things would have blunted or completely obviated the blackouts.

This is a blackout of choice, caused by the sound business practices of the electric power companies. Power companies will be operating at a loss if they buy natural gas for how much the natural gas companies are selling it for.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-18 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I guess Texas could mandate that houses be built to the same specs as those you would find in North Dakota. Spend money on snowplows and de-icing equipment. Copy how the northern tier states have tackled the sub-zero weather problem...but that's going to be a lot of money. So you're stuck convincing taxpayers to shell out money for something that they will likely never see again in their lifetimes."

Nobody has suggested any of that, you blithering idiot.

#59 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-02-18 03:20 PM | Reply

Libterian and Cruz in the same sentence? How did that happen. Last week he was aligned with Fascism.
#44 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

There's something you may not fully realize about Libertarians...
thomas-perrett97.medium.com

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-18 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What was the highly unusual, almost unimaginable phenomenon that drove the California power outages. I'm not tracking any.
#51 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

That was called Enron.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-18 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Yet, in modern Libertarian and Anarcho " Capitalist circles across the world, a prominent and alarming tendency exists for those on the Libertarian Right to devolve into outright fascist politics. Vox Day, Stefan Molyneux, Lauren Southern, Christopher Cantwell (also known as the Crying Nazi') and Richard Spencer, just to name a few, are prominent voices on the Alt Right' who were once Libertarians. This piece will analyse the primary similarities between Libertarianism and Fascism, and the reasons for the transition from one to the other. The commitment to class " collaboration in the interests of racial hegemony and national identity, the notion that racial discrimination can be considered a private property right and, therefore, that scientific racism is a justification of any inequalities that may result from a capitalist mode of production, and a visceral opposition to communism are the central tenets of this transition."

Just the lead-in from the link in #60.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-18 03:56 PM | Reply

Those poor people!

Water pipe bursts expected to get 'exponentially worse' as things start to thaw out

www.wfaa.com

'' Raindrops keep fallin' on my head ...''

#63 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-02-18 04:16 PM | Reply

I lived in Texas for four years at different times. From the Gulf Coast to San Antonio. I was never told to prepare for anything like this. Nor was I told to prepare for something like what Louisiana experienced when I lived there.

#54 | Posted by madbomber

Well you're not an energy regulation are you?

Thats the dumbest argument I've ever heard, but perfectly captures the republican neanderthal mindset of "if I didn't experience something then it doesn't exist"

#64 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-18 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

*energy regulation agency

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-18 04:42 PM | Reply

And Enron was caused by deregulation of California's power industry in the mid-late 90's. California at the time was governed by a Republican Pete Wilson. That deregulation was heavily championed on the airwaves by which recently departed radio "entertainer"?

#66 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2021-02-18 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It seems every Republican in Texas doesn't believe that Joe Biden was elected president.

Why should they be getting any help from the federal government?

#67 | Posted by Tor at 2021-02-18 05:12 PM | Reply

Like everyone else Coal Plants have been decommissioned to make room for Green Energy and no new Natural Gas plants have been built to replace the Coal

#68 | Posted by Maverick at 2021-02-18 05:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Like everyone else Coal Plants have been decommissioned to make room for Green Energy and no new Natural Gas plants have been built to replace the Coal

#68 | Posted by Maverick

The coal and natural plants failed too stupid.

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-02-18 05:43 PM | Reply

"Like everyone else Coal Plants have been decommissioned to blah, blah, blah..."

Why do you suppose that everyone else's natural gas power plants are working fine?

#70 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-02-18 05:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When that happens, I have to do research. Which Republican or Democrat is less awful?
Otherwise, I simply vote

#56 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-02-18 03:16 PM | FLAG:

You live in a single party system like I do, but that's good you bother to check who's running your own show once in awhile.

#71 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 07:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

'' Raindrops keep fallin' on my head ...''

#63 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2021-02-18 04:16 PM | FLAG:

It's bull times for Plumbers. Does it feel like a coincidence Republicans kinda-sorta promote trade schools when they create so many jobs for them?

#72 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-02-18 07:34 PM | Reply

Like everyone else Coal Plants have been decommissioned to make room for Green Energy and no new Natural Gas plants have been built to replace the Coal

POSTED BY MAVERICK AT 2021-02-18 05:21 PM | REPLY

Why are Conservatives bald faced frauds???

#73 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-02-18 08:03 PM | Reply

#72 Undocumented plumbers will be making bank. Now Biden can raise the price for green cards. Biden is playing 50D chess.

#74 | Posted by bored at 2021-02-18 08:32 PM | Reply

Why are Conservatives bald faced frauds?

Limited options.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-02-18 08:39 PM | Reply

More lying.

Sop.

#76 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-02-19 12:30 AM | Reply

Continuing rant from #31, that stupid ------ Abbott said essentially the same thing--blaming "green energy" for political points, then having to walk the comments back stating that all power generations schemes are failing.

www.cnn.com

#77 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-02-19 05:18 AM | Reply

Cynicism aside, I can only hope that one day, screwing over the public for the sake of your fossil fuel portfolio while in elected office and falsely blaming "liberal" policies is seen for what it really is.

These are our natural resources, not his and his ------- friends'.

#78 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-02-19 07:49 AM | Reply

Like everyone else Coal Plants have been decommissioned to make room for Green Energy and no new Natural Gas plants have been built to replace the Coal

#68 | Posted by Maverick

Does it hurt to be this stupid?

#79 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-02-19 08:43 AM | Reply

I lived in Texas for four years at different times. From the Gulf Coast to San Antonio. I was never told to prepare for anything like this. Nor was I told to prepare for something like what Louisiana experienced when I lived there.
#54 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Whereas in California and Washington, disaster preparedness is baked into the culture. Especially in California where we are accustomed to dealing with earthquakes, wildfires, mudslides, and even boil orders for drinking water.

All these things promote the general welfare. Which explains why Red States don't do them. Conservatives don't believe government should promote the general welfare.

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-19 02:28 PM | Reply

#62

If you can be a Libertarian socialist...I guess there isn't any reason why you couldn't be a Libertarian fascist.

Even though, by definition, you couldn't be anything even remotely resembling a fascist or socialist if you were an honest libertarian.

#81 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-19 04:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Thats the dumbest argument I've ever heard, but perfectly captures the republican neanderthal mindset of "if I didn't experience something then it doesn't exist"

So...I'm an aviator by trade.

This isn't something you'll understand, but maybe some will. I've known dudes who were flying in unpressurised light aircraft who got caught in an updraft and suddenly found themselves tens of thousands of feet higher than the max operating altitude of their respective aircraft. It happens.

Your argument appears to be that, since it could happen, no aircraft should be allowed to operate unless it could do so successfully in extreme circumstances that it would likely never experience. So instead of being able to buy a Cessna 152, now if you want to buy an airplane, you have no choice buy to buy something that could operate effetely alongside the DL 14 A330.

Neanderthals were kinda smart. You're a skittish child who would make decisions based on emotion. I'd honestly go with the Neanderthal's opinion over yours.

#82 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-19 04:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"All these things promote the general welfare. Which explains why Red States don't do them. Conservatives don't believe government should promote the general welfare."

You're so adorable. General welfare in something you receive in the mail for having still drawn breath. Without it, you wouldn't be here with us today.

Anyway..I think that the reason Houston didn't have as many problems is that they live in Hurricane country. So they all have generators. In that respect, a cold snap might be even more favorable than a hurricane.

It's the people further inland who were caught off guard. I saw pics of SA where I thought I was looking at somewhere in Arizona or New Mexico.

#83 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-02-19 04:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Even though, by definition, you couldn't be anything even remotely resembling a fascist or socialist if you were an honest libertarian.
#81 | POSTED BYMADBOMBER

I've only ever met one Libertarian who thinks it's acceptable that businesses can't deny service to blacks just for being black.

It's not you, and it's not Sitzkrieg.
It's not any libertarian on the DR, to my knowledge.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-02-19 06:01 PM | Reply

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