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Friday, April 02, 2021

NBC 'Nightly New' anchor Lester Holt accepted the Edward R. Murrow Award for Lifetime Achievement in Journalism on Tuesday: "I think it's become clearer that fairness is overrated. Before you run off and tweet that headline, let me explain a bit. The idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in. That the sun sets in the west is a fact. Any contrary view does not deserve our time or attention."

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The problem is when news is reporting politics, biased "facts" become the "truth". Give people the option to hear all angles and decide for themselves. Liberals are dumbing down America.

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Two sides don't always merit coverage. Covering a Holocaust Memorial and Holocaust Denier, one side doesn't deserve equal airtime.

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-04-02 09:45 AM | Reply

Sit,

Your example is extreme but still, do you think people are so stupid they can't figure it out for themselves and need to be dumbed down?

The internet is an environment where the most obscure viewpoint held by a small group of people can get equal time and appear right along more legitimate views.

People can read and decide for themselves.

The recent ruling by the Supreme Court overturning a long standing rule about single ownership of local radio, tv and newspaper shows that times are changing. One owner may own all 3 because most people are getting the news online anyway.

Frankly, much like newspapers, Lester Holt represents a dying breed of journalism.

#2 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-02 10:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

@#2 ... The internet is an environment where the most obscure viewpoint held by a small group of people can get equal time and appear right along more legitimate views.

People can read and decide for themselves. ...

Yup.

But the article you cite is not about the Internet in general, but about news reporting specifically.

Attempting to conflate the two is incorrect.


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-02 10:21 AM | Reply

Lamp,

Sit gave the example of Holocaust deniers.

Where else but the internet would you even hear about them?

My point is that Lester Holt's comment might apply to 30 min segments retelling yesterday's news on television, but it can't be applied to the internet regardless how hard liberals try to control information.

For example, liberal media is calling any opposition to mail-in ballots voter suppression.

That is subjective and not a "truth".

It might be true that more people vote if they don't have to leave the house but no one is blocking them from going to the polls to vote in person.

It's not voter suppression.

It's voter laziness unless they are simply incapable of getting out so they should probably apply for an absentee ballot.

All I'm going to say is Lester Holt's comment only shows me the rapidly increasing irrelevance of tv news broadcasting.

Thankfully we have multiple news sources on the internet to read different viewpoints.

#4 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-02 01:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"...do you think people are so stupid they can't figure it out for themselves and need to be dumbed down?"

People like you...yeah.

#5 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-04-02 01:22 PM | Reply

"Where else but the internet would you even hear about them?"

You are absolutely dumb as a bag of hammers.

Holocaust deniers have been in the news ever sense I was old enough to start paying attention in the 60s.

#6 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-04-02 01:26 PM | Reply

#4 - The fact that you still believe there was wide spread voter fraud, and come here daily to spout off about how horrible mail in voting was, when every piece of reliable evidence points to the opposite, I would say yes, people are stupid, and need it to be dumbed down for them.

#7 | Posted by schmanch at 2021-04-02 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#4 ... All I'm going to say is Lester Holt's comment only shows me the rapidly increasing irrelevance of tv news broadcasting. ...

I do not necessarily disagree with your comment about news reporting having a decreasing relevance in today's society.

Indeed, your comment in #4, "...The internet is an environment where the most obscure viewpoint held by a small group of people can get equal time and appear right along more legitimate views...." shows a big reason why.

Mr Holt was talking about facts.

Your comments are talking about views (a.k.a., opinions).

That you continue to attempt to conflate facts with opinions runs quite counter to the argument you posed in #2, "...People can read and decide for themselves...."

Apparently, it seems that people do have difficulty distinguishing between fact and opinion. imo, probably due to some manner of confirmation bias.




#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-02 01:50 PM | Reply

#4 long voter lineups is voter suppression. Engineering long lineups in areas that vote against your party is election fraud.

Mail in voting stops the fraud.

#9 | Posted by bored at 2021-04-02 01:54 PM | Reply

Oh for God's sake. We still on that mail-in ballot crap? Lord have mercy.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-04-02 01:57 PM | Reply

Financial advisors often tout their past performance as an indicator of their ability to recognize market value truth.

News orgs should do the same. Unvetted information is propaganda. News orgs collect information, but in the internet age their real value is the curation if information into relevant truth.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2021-04-02 02:00 PM | Reply

"Here to discuss COVID-19 is someone who claims it's a hoax!"

Is what Lester Holt is calling BS on.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-02 02:44 PM | Reply

"Here to discuss COVID-19 is someone who claims it's a hoax!"

Is what Lester Holt is calling BS on.

#12 | Posted by snoofy

A guy I knew well for over 25 years was blathering on FB after the pandemic hit claiming it was a 'hoax' to bring down Trump .. how he'd be damned if he wore a mask. Tony died of COVID (or stupidity, take your pick) after 5 weeks on a ventilator.

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-02 03:00 PM | Reply

Angry,

"Holocaust deniers have been in the news ever sense I was old enough to start paying attention in the 60s."

So have people who believe Hitler is alive, or Kennedy or Elvis.

What's your point?

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-02 06:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Snoofy,

Holt lives in a world of 30 minute news segments.

He doesn't even really cover very much "news" anyway.

The more I think about it, the less his comment deserves any response.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-02 06:09 PM | Reply

"Holt lives in a world of 30 minute news segments."

Was it any different for Walter Cronkite?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-02 06:11 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Walter Cronkite was back in the day when tv and newspapers were the main sources of news.

You're trolling now.

Ignoring you.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-02 06:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#17 LMFAO

If anything, you're saying "Thirty minutes for the news? Who has that kind of time anymore!"

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-02 06:32 PM | Reply

" but no one is blocking them from going to the polls to vote in person."

God on line #1 for you. Something about "ALS"....

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-03 02:17 AM | Reply

Your example is extreme but still, do you think people are so stupid they can't figure it out for themselves and need to be dumbed down?

Yes. Some people are just that stupid. Unfortunately, many of these stupid people are the same ones that take action, some times deadly actions, based on their stupidity.

#20 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2021-04-03 06:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sit gave the example of Holocaust deniers.
Where else but the internet would you even hear about them?

#4 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2021-04-02 01:21 PM | REPLY | FUNNY:

Well, here's a GOP candidate on CNN.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-04-03 09:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What's your point?"

To point out the idiocy of your claim:

"Where else but the internet would you even hear about them?"

#22 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-04-03 09:53 AM | Reply

Bored,

"Engineering long lineups in areas that vote against your party is election fraud."

Early voting will go a long way toward helping with the line problem.

Everyone voting on one day is a monumental task.

Anything millions of people do on one day is going to have problems.

Early voting is a terrific solution but there needs to be federal guidelines put out exactly which Saturdays and hours all states will be required to open.

You just watch.

Mail-in ballots will die the "death of a thousand cuts".

There is no voter suppression in early voting.

Only voter accountability.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-03 10:35 AM | Reply

...but there needs to be federal guidelines put out exactly which Saturdays and hours all states will be required to open.

I heard Boaz' head explode all the way from here.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-04-03 11:04 AM | Reply


@#23 ... Mail-in ballots will die the "death of a thousand cuts". ...

Lessons Other States Might Learn From Utah's Success With Mail-In Ballots
www.npr.org

...NPR's Mary Louise Kelly speaks with Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox, R-Utah, about why Utah has been so successful with mail-in ballots with very little fraud and his advice for the rest of the U.S....

Of course, Utah is usually considered to be a Red State, so the success of Utah with mail-in voting doesn't seem to count in the eyes of the GOP.

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-03 08:01 PM | Reply

@#23 ... Anything millions of people do on one day is going to have problems. ...

In case you haven't been paying attention, the problem is not that there are problems with the ability of people to vote.

The problem is that those problems are intentional and intended to inhibit the vote of those voters who tend not to vote for Republicans.

Or have you not been following the court rulings over the past few years?


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-03 08:04 PM | Reply

Lamp,

"The problem is that those problems are intentional and intended to inhibit the vote"

Another problem with mail-in ballots is the "intentional" manipulation that will assuridly occur in many family units where one person votes for the group either by completing everyone's ballots or pressuring family members. Anonymity and privacy will be impossible for some people who might would prefer to vote in person.

Do you not think everyone should be able to vote for themselves or are in denial this senerio played out in a great many homes this election?

#27 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-03 10:19 PM | Reply

Lamp,

There is no perfect system.

Early voting with federally mandated poll requirements solves a lot of those problems.

If a locality isn't getting enough allocated resources then it needs addressed.

Mail-in ballots creates an opportunity for corruption and errors that used as a primary source of voting is too great for such an important event.

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-03 10:36 PM | Reply

Real problem with mail in voting is in increases the number of people voting, when you do that Republicans lose. That's the real truth and BILL JOHNSON can repeat the right wing talking points till the cows come home but he is still lying his ass off.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2021-04-04 01:02 PM | Reply

Danni,

Once again, the great Danisksi knows what I REALLY mean.

Unlike your politicians you adore I say what I mean.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-04 09:54 PM | Reply

Danni,

I work in information systems for a living.

Would you mail $1000 to your bank in an envelope?

Of course not.

Votes are no less important than cash.

#31 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-04 10:02 PM | Reply

Danni,

If as you say mail-in ballots benefit one party over another, that sounds to me reason enough to disallow it.

You say suppression, I say unfair advantage.

#32 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-04 10:09 PM | Reply

"When you are dead you do not know that you are dead.
It's only painful & difficult for others.
The same things happens when you are stupid."
twitter.com

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-04 10:37 PM | Reply

#30 QUACK

#34 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-04-04 10:37 PM | Reply

Bill is just a hornswoggler. Nothing more.

#35 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-04-04 10:47 PM | Reply

#31 Have you heard of mailing cheques?

#36 | Posted by bored at 2021-04-04 10:51 PM | Reply

Recently an orange theiving rapist had his name printed on cheques mailed to millions of Americans.

#37 | Posted by bored at 2021-04-04 10:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm going to steal that vote and go shopping!

#38 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-04 10:55 PM | Reply

I thought Bill used to be a hornswaggler. Turns out it's a real word. Pays to increase your vocabulary .

#39 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-04-04 10:58 PM | Reply

Hey. Great idea Yav. I wonder how much 200 mail-in ballots are worth on the open market.

#40 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-04-04 11:06 PM | Reply

Laura,

"I wonder how much 200 mail-in ballots are worth on the open market."

Not sure....

Dollar here...dollar there...isn't worth much.

All added up is worth more.

How about the number of seats in a large civic center?

Lets say....11,780.

#41 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-05 06:31 AM | Reply

Wow you're a gullible stooge for right winged dishonesty BillJohnson which leaves your credibility in the toilet. Now STFU With your dishonest broker. We're tired of reading it.

#42 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-04-05 06:51 AM | Reply

Lets say....11,780.

Lewzer tried to buy that many, but failed as usual.

#43 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-04-05 06:52 AM | Reply

Laura,

Don't read it then.

Leave it to a liberal to put the onus for your not reading my posts on me.

Also leave it to a liberal to think you speak for everyone when you said "we".

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-05 07:22 AM | Reply

Laura,

Unless "we" is your pronoun of choice.

If so I do apologize.

#45 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-05 07:27 AM | Reply

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