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Monday, April 05, 2021

200 companies, including PayPal, Dow, Estee Lauder, HP, Microsoft, Uber, and Under Armour have signed a joint statement condemning election reform efforts in Texas, Georgia, and other states.

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Georgia is practically a rogue state at this point.

Georgia would have a Democrat government if Georgia's Republican Secretary of State hadn't perpetrated election fraud.

Republicans know this to be true. And then they break out the funny flags.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-05 09:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It's not us - it's everyone else that's wrong."

-Republicans

#2 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2021-04-05 09:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Happy to see that companies are not being intimidated by McConnell and the GOP.

www.reuters.com

#3 | Posted by horstngraben at 2021-04-05 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny I thought corporations were people and as such were free to have a say in politics? Or do I totally misunderstand Citizens United?

#4 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-04-05 10:20 PM | Reply

Or do I totally misunderstand Citizens United?
#4 | POSTED BYTAOWARRIOR

Since you're a Libertarian, I'm leaning towards "totally misunderstood."

Pray to your Invisible Hand for Furher, I mean furher guidance.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-05 10:59 PM | Reply

Republicants can't die off soon enough.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-04-06 01:02 AM | Reply

Companies making joint statements like this about human issues is surprising and I can't recall anything similar.

#7 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2021-04-06 03:50 AM | Reply

GRUMPY

Not "human issues" . . . political issues.

And companies have been making political statements with their campaign donations for years.

This time stupid Trump crossed the Rubicon and is getting his ass whipped.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-04-06 04:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Douglas A. Blackmon @douglasblackmon (former WSJ reporter)

So you're asking if I actually can explain how the new Georgia voting law discourages voting, especially in minority & lower income communities and sets up ways for the legislature and exec branch to tamper with elections the way President Trump tried? Okay, if you insist.

twitter.com

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-04-06 07:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by horstngraben

McConnell says "Stay out of Politics" until it's time to contribute to our campaigns or the guy from -------------.

Hey the SCOTUS says corporations are people so why should they stay out of politics?

#10 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-04-06 07:39 AM | Reply

Yikes Snoofy I'm feeling a bit attacked here.

I was just pointing out that Mitch has no problem with corporations having a political stance when they are donating to republicans but as soon as they support the democrats they shouldn't get involved in politics.

#11 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-04-06 07:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 | Posted by Twinpac

They are very human issues and not just political. Human Rights cross both categories.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-04-06 07:43 AM | Reply

Companies making joint statements like this about human issues is surprising and I can't recall anything similar.

#7 | POSTED BY GRUMPY_TOO

The key is whether this is just a statement.

If they don't act and this is just lip service for PR reasons it's just cynical and meaningless.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 09:43 AM | Reply

On the positive side, I'm looking forward to all the temper tantrum videos of mouth breathing Trumpers "boycotting" these companies by burning their Under Armor hoodies and HP computers.

Maybe we'll get lucky and "family_values", fortfisher and bellringer will "boycott" microsoft by turning their computers off!

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 09:46 AM | Reply

"The key is whether this is just a statement.
If they don't act and this is just lip service for PR reasons it's just cynical and meaningless."

It IS just a statement. This is the entirely of their actions.

What other possibility is there?

It's not like these people didn't know what Georgia was up to. They choose to wait until after this passed before lifting a finger to make a pandering worthless statement.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 09:52 AM | Reply

pandering worthless statement.

#15 | Posted by eberly

Ferocious pandering that absolutely terrifies the GOP.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2021-04-06 10:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's not like these people didn't know what Georgia was up to. They choose to wait until after this passed before lifting a finger to make a pandering worthless statement.

#15 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Maybe for most of these companies, but the All-Star game was pulled out of Georgia. That is more than a "pandering worthless statement".

#17 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2021-04-06 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"but the All-Star game was pulled out of Georgia."

Yes, which is the main reason why this is news at the level it is now. That was an actual "action" taken by an organization.

Again, if this is so evil then why the reactions after the fact? This was the Georgia state legislature....it could have easily been avoided with any lobbying.

"Ferocious pandering that absolutely terrifies the GOP."

Actually the companies with their statements are the terrified ones.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 10:15 AM | Reply

"Again, if this is so evil then why the reactions after the fact?"

People have been speaking out against voting restrictions for years now.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 11:14 AM | Reply

It IS just a statement. This is the entirely of their actions.

With all fairness there hasn't been any time to see if action will be taken.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 11:34 AM | Reply

If these laws aren't "voter suppression,"
then why do we need them?

There was no legitimate voter fraud at any scale.
Even the right-wing HERITAGE FOUNDATION can only find 1317 cases of voter fraud going back over twenty years!
www.heritage.org

That's 65 cases averaged per year, nationally!
So, guess what, it iS voter intimadation and voter suppression.

#21 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-04-06 02:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#18 | Posted by eberly

You are probably correct in SOME cases. I dare say over the past decade companies are starting to figure out that they don't want to be on the wrong side of a major moral or ethical debate - for the most part. It is a losing position. In this case conservatives don't even have anything to say defending the changes they are forcing. They actually are seeing the impact of liberals being bigger on their bottom line than conservatives as well. Look at the reversal of position in pro sports. Global warming and the movement toward green energy is another prime example. I mean in general these organizations are not lead by stupid people and I dare say mostly people that would be classified conservatives even. (Plenty are lead by sociopaths though and you can often pick them out.)

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-04-06 03:28 PM | Reply

#22 The work culture in top-tier jobs pays a lot of heed to social change.

If you have a top tier worker who is gay or trans or whatever, you don't want them suing you.
But more than that, you don't want them leaving for a competitor where they won't get harassed.

It's not like that at places where people like Eberly work.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 03:35 PM | Reply

Again, if this is so evil then why the reactions after the fact? This was the Georgia state legislature....it could have easily been avoided with any lobbying.

#18 | Posted by eberly

The bill was quickly written, then rammed through both chambers of the legislature before Kemp signed it that night.

No one had time to to squat before the fact.

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-06 04:16 PM | Reply

www.google.com

1 side worked hard for it.

Black leaders protested. Nobody listened.

Yes, it was done quick.

But what is "quick" in 2021? Heard of the internet or telephone?

How did 1 side do it with such stealth?

This has turned into comedy for me.....watching all this deflection for companies that didn't give a ---- until they were compelled to......is funny now

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 05:27 PM | Reply

How did 1 side do it with such stealth?

EBERLY

The GA legislature rammed it through in hours, and Kemp signed it that night.

But for reading comprehension, that was clear in my previous post.

When would any corporation have had time to protest beforehand.

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-06 05:42 PM | Reply

"The Georgia bill underwent major change in recent days " growing from a narrow, two-page bill into a sweeping omnibus package to becoming law in a little over a week. Activists and Black religious leaders in the state held rallies and threatened corporate boycotts in an unsuccessful attempt to disrupt its progress through the General Assembly."

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 05:47 PM | Reply

"Officials with Heritage Action for America " one of the national Republican groups leading efforts to clamp down on ballot access in the name of "election integrity" " praised Kemp, lawmakers and the 20,000 conservative activists it said had lobbied lawmakers to pass the overhaul."

Yep. Did all of that behind a curtain.

Nobody could have known

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 05:53 PM | Reply

And it's going to work just fine

They all wait until "it's too late" to denounce it and then out trots the even the extreme left to excuse them all for it.

When they knew the black community was screaming about it BEFORE it passed.......and clearly ignored them.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 05:55 PM | Reply

#28 | Posted by eberly

How do we know corporations didn't 'lobby' against it behind the scenes like the 20,000 activists did, according to your own post?

You don't. I'd go back to reading those exciting Actuarial Monthly magazines!

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-06 06:20 PM | Reply

This has turned into comedy for me.....

#25 | Posted by eberly

Yeah watching your cult who can't win a fair election try to change the rules so they can cheat harder is hilarious if you don't really care about the country or democracy or worry about fascism.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-04-06 06:24 PM | Reply

Eberly's take on this is really something.

But, it's also pretty obvious he's trolling as hard as he can.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 06:26 PM | Reply

-How do we know corporations didn't 'lobby' against it behind the scenes like the 20,000 activists did, according to your own post?

The organizations that lobbied against it has stood up and said so.

Everybody else has been silent until they had to speak up.

To be fair to many companies who probably don't have the resources or wherewithal to be paying such close attention ......I can understand.

But Coca-Cola and delta airlines? Give me a ------- break.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 07:03 PM | Reply

-I'd go back to reading those exciting Actuarial Monthly magazines!

And you should stay with the brainless "it happened in hours" ----- deflections.

Don't move on.....stay right there.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 07:05 PM | Reply

Why would Coke and Delta be keeping an ear to the ground for incoming GOP voter disenfranchisement legislation?
???

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 07:05 PM | Reply

Wow, I see a fair number of posts not showing up.

Speak and snoofy must really be giving each other some serious reach arounds over this.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 07:06 PM | Reply

But Coca-Cola and delta airlines? Give me a ------- break.

#33 | Posted by eberly

Why are you whining about corporations supporting republicans when they know republicans are evil?

You do the exact same thing.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-04-06 07:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

EBERLY responds with kiddie insults in response to an "Actuarial Monthly" magazine joke.

Sign of a weak mind.

#38 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-06 07:13 PM | Reply

Speak and snoofy must really be giving each other some serious reach arounds over this.
#36 | POSTED BYEBERLY

I know!

We're totally giving each other rent-free high fives in your mind right now!!

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 07:15 PM | Reply

"-----" is what Georgia Republicans did because they can't win elections fair and square ...

Hell, Kemp only won the governorship by cheating as Secretary of State.

#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-06 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-"-----" is what Georgia Republicans did because they can't win elections fair and square ...

Agreed.

But stick to the deflections.......you're really good at them.

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 07:51 PM | Reply

Anytime anyone engages with EBERLY, even jokingly, he manages to eventually expose himself as a know-it-all ashhole.

#42 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-06 09:19 PM | Reply

Eb... I don't know what point you are trying to make? The companies came out about it after public outcry. If there had not been public outcry, then they probably would not have come out about it. And the All-Star game would still be in Atlanta.

Also, the All-Star game got cancelled AFTER THE BILL WAS PASSED as well. So, if you are claiming that these companies are not going to do anything because they didn't do anything before the bill was passed, then the All-Star game proves that you are wrong.

You might be right that they are just talking and will not take any action other than lip-service. But, that is just your opinion. Only time will tell. It could be that the All-Star game getting moved will be the only actual effect. But, with this much publicity, I kinda doubt it.

#43 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2021-04-06 09:21 PM | Reply

-So, if you are claiming that these companies are not going to do anything because they didn't do anything before the bill was passed, then the All-Star game proves that you are wrong.

Other than MLB, who's done anything at this point? Besides issue a statement.

It's early. Maybe more to come.

But I'm right.......until I'm not.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 09:32 PM | Reply

42

Geez.....how about you just grow another layer of skin, porky.

Stop crying about me.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 09:33 PM | Reply

"Other than MLB, who's done anything at this point? Besides issue a statement."

Well, you had a meltdown.
So there's that.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 09:34 PM | Reply

-Eb... I don't know what point you are trying to make?

Literally, an 8th grader could understand what I'm saying here

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 09:35 PM | Reply

Eberly doesn't want Sniper to know what he's saying!

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 09:37 PM | Reply

ATLANTA-Activists are calling for boycotts ofGeorgiacompanies that hesitated to challengesweeping election reformsigned into law byGov. Brian Kempon March 25.
www.fox5atlanta.com

Eberly's chief complaint seems to be that many Georgia companies are trying to avoid getting boycotted.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 09:58 PM | Reply

Literally, an 8th grader could understand what I'm saying here

#47 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Your point is that these statements don't matter at all? That it does nothing for 200 companies to publicly say that this law does not follow American values?

Sure. You can believe that if you want. I think you are wrong, but such is life. The All-Star game getting pulled might be the most obvious and traceable effect, but this will affect the corporate view of Georgia. On average a few more will decide to do their retreats and conventions elsewhere. Not open up satellite offices there. Whether conservatives actually care about that? I doubt it. Racism and fear-mongering, nepotism and corruption seem to be much more important to them that economic success so maybe your point is a good one.

#50 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2021-04-06 10:42 PM | Reply

-That it does nothing for 200 companies to publicly say that this law does not follow American values?

Exactly.....if it's just a statement. Anybody can do that.

These companies are worried about themselves...not those voters.

Of course I'm speaking generally. A few could be sincere and perhaps publicly support legislation to reverse it or support candidates who will challenge incumbents who voted for it, etc.

Maybe put some skin in it.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 10:54 PM | Reply

Rachel Maddow did a retrospective piece on this topic tonight. It was only 15 years ago when President Bush and most of the Congressional GOP - but for Southern reps - all supported the renewal of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Bush touted it himself when he spoke at the NAACP national convention that year - an unprecedented appearance. The VRA outlawed the very things today's GOP is trying to rush into law - specifically in states with histories of discriminatory/repressive voting laws and practices through the pre-clearance provisions - all over America until the Robert's Court gutting of the act in 2013.

And in 2006 major US corporations wholeheartedly supported the renewal of the VRA including the CEO of Walmart who issued a public statement in support of its millions of black employees, articulating how every American should have unfettered access to cast their legal ballots, and that the historical impediments placed upon minorities have no place in current-day America. Many other corporate giants stood in lockstep agreement putting out similar statements which caused zero public pushback whatsoever.

So for those ignorant of recent American history, US corporations are doing exactly the same thing they did in 2006 - supporting the rights of black voters to have their voices heard without restrictive policies put in place by states in specific opposition to those rights.

The only thing that's changed is the GOP and the SCOTUS who've allowed what was universally lauded as a remedy to centuries of disenfranchisement to be recodified today on the basis of the lie that our elections are not secure and subject to widespread fraud that they claim can alter elective results - something which has never been proven in any US court or legislative body who've investigated the allegations.

#52 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-04-06 11:05 PM | Reply

Maybe put some skin in it.

It's coming Ebs. McConnell is going to force corporate America to publicly support the Democrats Voting Rights Bill and the John Lewis Act. Mark my words, because it won't be long before this happens. It is illogical that any of these Republican-controlled states are going to be bullied into dropping their plans, but they will be stopped by federal legislation that outlaws the very practices these states are trying to codify.

Biden and the Dems are simply letting today's oblivious GOP trap themselves on the wrong side of another insipid issue going against public sentiment, including a solid number of Republicans. Every legal voter should have reasonable access to cast their ballots and have them counted. That's the issue. More access for legal voters is an easily understood matter, and voters should not have to stand in 8-hour lines just to vote. In general, this isn't controversial. The controversy comes from black voters flexing their muscles and having the audacity of winning elections in GOP strongholds to the point Republicans just can't allow the new status quo to stand.

We'll soon find out how Americans feel about this enmass. I doubt that the Republicans will like the national answer, and a united corporate community only gives the Democrats more support in doing what is simply right - fight for everyone's right to vote and have them fairly counted.

#53 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-04-06 11:14 PM | Reply

Perhaps the most egregious aspect of this law:

The legislation authorizes the Republican-majority legislature to appoint the state election board's majority while demoting the elected secretary of state, Georgia's top election official, to a non-voting position.

It also allows the state board to remove local supervisors it deems derelict and replace them with individuals of its choosing.

That power has alarmed Democrats and civil rights organizations in light of Trump's unprecedented pressure campaign to overturn the results in key Democratic counties.

But even some election officials from Republican-leaning counties said they opposed allowing the state board to take over local elections, a Reuters survey of the state's 159 counties found.

www.reuters.com

This will all come back to bite Republicans in the tuchus.

#54 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-07 07:27 AM | Reply

-but they will be stopped by federal legislation that outlaws the very practices these states are trying to codify.

not the courts?

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 09:05 AM | Reply

This is so obviously ultimately a losing battle for the GOP. Americans want democracy. We want everyone to have an equal and EASY opportunity to legally vote. The GOP does not want that. Specifically they do not want black people to vote because they vote in overwhelming proportions for Democrat candidates. The GOP hopes that by blocking black people from voting they can continue to win in localities where the GOP is no longer the majority. Problem is, even if that works for a couple of elections, it is doomed to failure. Americans - black, white, brown, etc. - fundamentally believe people should be allowed to vote. In this day and age, laws that seek to prevent that not only have a short shelf life, but also drive more people to vote against the Party trying to limit voter access. I think the GOP, once again, is just digging it's own grave.

#56 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-04-07 12:44 PM | Reply

About that alleged 'voter fraud' nonsense Republicans love to babble about:

The other week, federal and state investigators quietly wrapped up a major, four-year investigation into claims of voter fraud in North Carolina " without delivering a shred of evidence of the "systemic" or "pervasive" fraud that Republicans had long promised.

Despite "dragnet-style" subpoenas of 44 counties, across state agencies, invasive data mining and records collection, hundreds of hours of professional staff time and more, investigators were able to charge a grand total of 41 people of some form of fraud " out of 5 million votes cast and 7 million voters.

#57 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-07 02:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Washington Post gives Biden Four Pinocchios talking about GA election law.

news.yahoo.com

#58 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-04-07 08:45 PM | Reply

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