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Tuesday, April 06, 2021

Discord, the group-chat app that has grown rapidly during the coronavirus pandemic, removed more than 2,000 communities dedicated to extremism and other violent content in the second half of last year, the company reported on Monday.

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Did Discord pull the plug on Boaz's hospice?

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-04-06 01:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Just more evidence to these people that they're right.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 08:45 AM | Reply

It's all fun and games until a group that meets your party's narrative gets banned. Then history has shown us it's a big problem.

#3 | Posted by humtake at 2021-04-06 11:45 AM | Reply

It's all fun and games until a group that meets your party's narrative gets banned. Then history has shown us it's a big problem.

#3 | Posted by humtake

History has shown us not banning nazis worked out worse than banning nazis.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-04-06 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Did Discord pull the plug on Boaz's hospice?

I've actually had to expand a little bit. We now have several members who used to post all the time on the DR but no longer do, liberal and conservative.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2021-04-06 12:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

"who used to post all the time on the DR but no longer do"

Riiiiiiiiight.

That's why we have the influx of sock puppets with very familiar talking points.

RCade should stop those folks at the border! Amirite???

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-06 01:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"That's why we have the influx of sock puppets with very familiar talking points.

RCade should stop those folks at the border! Amirite???"

There are a lot of former posters from this site on both sides that were never banned. I doubt any former banned posters post here. Some might be former posters but not banned.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 02:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

And the former DR posters on discord are doing just fine. They weren't extreme ever.

If you think so then you'd have to be totally thin skinned to believe such.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-06 02:13 PM | Reply

It's all fun and games until a group that meets your party's narrative gets banned. Then history has shown us it's a big problem.
#3 | Posted by humtake
History has shown us not banning nazis worked out worse than banning nazis.
#4 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-04-06 12:26 PM | REPLY | OOF, LOL

#9 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-04-06 02:19 PM | Reply

#6 That is down right funny. There are numerous very obvious left wingnut sock puppets appearing all the time on the Retort.

As for the other site, I just looked, there are 31 members and counting. Right, left, right of center and undecided, several that used to post here and many that still do.

#10 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2021-04-06 02:21 PM | Reply

"There are numerous very obvious left wingnut sock puppets appearing all the time on the Retort."

Who?

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-06 02:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Some might be former posters but not banned.

#7 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So why make a new user name?

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 03:13 PM | Reply

There are numerous very obvious left wingnut sock puppets appearing all the time on the Retort.

Such as?

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 03:15 PM | Reply

And boaz check which email you sent my invitation to. I never got it LOL

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-06 03:19 PM | Reply

To be honest JPW, I wish I could extend an invitation to more DR liberals. But most are just too rabid. We have shared personal information and photo's over there and much of it would be used against us. Plus alot of family members also are involved there.

Too many dedicated trolls here that have no use to want to know any of us in person, which is what used to make this site great.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2021-04-07 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have no desire to be part of Boaz' club. I can't imagine that, nor do I suffer any FOMO. Too many of those -------- still show up here posting under different names. That says a lot about who's there, as does the article which this thread is based on.

Like members of the GOP have said about those that attacked the Capitol, they're good people that love America, right? Which only means when you're an extremist and your surround yourself with other extremists, you think you're normal.

There is something that can inform you about the results. It's called "History."

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 08:18 AM | Reply

To be honest JPW, I wish I could extend an invitation to more DR liberals.

It was a joke, boaz. Y'all went off and started that for a reason, reasons I largely disagreed with.

But yes, in any case some would make it too personal I'm sure.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 08:42 AM | Reply

-Too many of those -------- still show up here posting under different names.

who? Exactly what posters from Discord are posting here under different names?

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 08:55 AM | Reply

#18 - you're on both sites, Eberly. We can only guess. Perhaps you never extended invitations to those particular --------? Perhaps you don't know the names they use here?

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 10:39 AM | Reply

-Perhaps you never extended invitations to those particular --------?

particular? which ones? again, exactly which posters are you referring to?

You made the assertion....so back it up. Specifically who are you talking about? Who posts here under different names?

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 10:54 AM | Reply

I know for a fact that a few of them shared at least one user name.

A Discord user and I have occasional email contact and I was informed.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:54 AM | Reply

What kind of person comes into a public forum and repeatedly talks up being a member of a private club that you can't join?

The (polite) word for that kind of person is "elitist."

You are definitely in the right club!

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-07 10:56 AM | Reply

I just want to know the names of discord users who still post here under different names.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 11:01 AM | Reply

#21 - they were the ones that stated that, too.

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:10 AM | Reply

"We can only guess"

LOL

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 11:12 AM | Reply

It's so critically important to Eberly!

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:13 AM | Reply

-Too many of those -------- still show up here posting under different names.

still waiting on you to name some....any.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 11:18 AM | Reply

Why?
Are you going to go ask them?
Verify it?

LMAO!

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:25 AM | Reply

You post here and there.
You have two accounts here.
True, Eberly?

#29 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:26 AM | Reply

What are you talking about? I know who posts here and there. You don't.

But you do anyway......so name them.

-Too many of those --------.......

Hell, just give me a number that represents "too many".

And I openly post here and there. I don't secretly post here under another name.

I challenged Danforth for his #6. He didn't respond. You, OTOH, are sticking with this. why?

name those posters or retract it.

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 11:38 AM | Reply

Or retract it?

Or what?

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'll take away your birthday.

I would say that I won't leave you alone over it....but I'm going to leave you alone regardless.

You're wrong. You can't name a single poster who does what you claimed.

Not 1.

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 11:49 AM | Reply

"I challenged Danforth for his #6."

Huh? Where?

More to the point...you haven't noticed "newbies" coming in and posting like veterans? Folks who, on their first or second day, are dominating threads with the same talking points (and phraseology) as The (self-)Banned Bunch?

"I know who posts here and there"

How? How would you know if someone chose not to disclose?

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 11:59 AM | Reply

33

read upthread. it's right there.

And I have noticed "newbies" that aren't newbies.

But you forget I know who posts on Discord....you don't.

These newbies are not discord members.

This place lost MANY posters over the years prior to the discord exodus. Both sides.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 12:05 PM | Reply

"That's why we have the influx of sock puppets with very familiar talking points.
RCade should stop those folks at the border! Amirite???"

Why would RCADE need to stop anybody? You think they were banned?

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 12:06 PM | Reply

Yep.
Family_Values is Jacque_Strap
Bellringer - I leave to others to figure out.
The 8 different names that IraGoldberg posted under.
Plus Gracie and her non-stop "sockpuppet" nonsense for everyone else is massive projection.
At least Boaz never changed as far as I can tell.

#36 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 12:06 PM | Reply

"Family_Values is Jacque_Strap
Bellringer - I leave to others to figure out.
The 8 different names that IraGoldberg posted under."

None of them post on discord.

that's my only point. There is no connection to hundreds of former posters to discord.

At any given time, former posters have showed up under another name. on both sides.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 12:17 PM | Reply

"None of them post on discord."

How do you prove your negative?

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 12:42 PM | Reply

"Why would RCADE need to stop anybody?"

I was joking...it's a border joke. Build That Wall, and all.

My only wish is folks would have to reveal ALL the names they've ever posted under. I'll go first:

Back before the days of sign-in I posted as DanforthRepublican. When RCade required handles, I shortened it to Danforth. I've never posted here, or anywhere else under any other name.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 12:46 PM | Reply

38

How do you prove anything?

It's not that large of a group....30 or so members.

Just keep believing what you want. It's fine.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 12:55 PM | Reply

Has it occurred to any of you that you ran with this thread......posted by -----------------?

LOL

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 12:58 PM | Reply

#41 is that supposed to invoke guilt by association?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-07 01:02 PM | Reply

What does that have to do with anything?
He's not the source for the article. It's NPR.
And we have a huge problem in the United States with extremists.
The vast number of which are right-wingers.
These are facts.

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 01:03 PM | Reply

"Why would RCADE need to stop anybody?"

They might find out about WarGames.com?

I can't remember which long lost poster brought that one up, but it's a funny story.

:)

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-07 01:04 PM | Reply

#15: Boaz, I don't want to know you in person. I think you are a very stupid, ignorant person. Your posts reflect the thought patterns of a brain unable to understand complex ideas, so instead relies on simplistic, and often easy-to-understand hate filled explanations. You may think you are a reasonable guy. You may think you are a 'good' guy. But really, you are not. You are just a dangerous imbecile. I don't want to know you in person.

Have a nice day.

#45 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-04-07 01:04 PM | Reply

"And we have a huge problem in the United States with extremists.
The vast number of which are right-wingers."

LOL
--Eberly

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-07 01:07 PM | Reply

More to the point...you haven't noticed "newbies" coming in and posting like veterans? Folks who, on their first or second day, are dominating threads with the same talking points (and phraseology) as The (self-)Banned Bunch?

And when called out for having knowledge of DR events that occurred years ago or posters who have been gone for years will throw out the lame "I'm a long time lurker" excuse.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 01:08 PM | Reply

Why would RCADE need to stop anybody? You think they were banned?

#35 | POSTED BY EBERLY

If they had to make a new user name then that's a solid assumption.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 01:09 PM | Reply

48

Iamsamcococonservativeredneckville

many come back here under new names to avoid the old name...not because they were banned.

RCADE doesn't permaban that many people and often times relents and allows posters back after a period of time.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 01:13 PM | Reply

-What does that have to do with anything?

nothing except that he's a urinal.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 01:13 PM | Reply

I guess some of you need to believe that the members of discord are "extremist" and that they would love to come back here.

You're so lacking in self-awareness, it's astounding.

Funny stuff. Keep it up.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 01:17 PM | Reply

Once upon a time this was good place to find adult conversation to discuss and debate the issues with intelligent people with viewpoints that differ from mine. I came back recently to stay occupied while recovering from surgery. Some interesting discourse exists, and I thank those adult participants. Unfortunately, the site appears to be dominated by grown men (maybe) who call themselves Liberals but behave like nasty little 13 year old boys, alternating between circle jerking and pissing on other nasty little 13 year old man/boys. I'm disappointed and as one of you "probably won't last long". Celebrate that if you like.

#52 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-04-07 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Celebrate that if you like.

#52 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Have you tried engaging in a manner that isn't a presumptuous tut tutting like a mother?

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 01:55 PM | Reply

" Once upon a time this was good place to find adult conversation to discuss and debate..."

And what name(s) were you posting under during those times?

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 01:59 PM | Reply

#6 He should, but Democrats are unable to stop anything at the border.

#55 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 02:02 PM | Reply

This is the only name I have ever posted under. It has been a while.

#56 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-04-07 02:08 PM | Reply

"History has shown us not banning nazis worked out worse than banning nazis."

Same thing is true of all strains of socialism.

#57 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-07 02:15 PM | Reply

57

uh oh.......

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:16 PM | Reply

"There are numerous very obvious left wingnut sock puppets appearing all the time on the Retort."

Speaking of, what ever happened to Mrsilencegood?

Did that person get banned. Or maybe thrown into a mental hospital?

#59 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-07 02:18 PM | Reply

Once upon a time this was good place to find adult conversation

In my experience.

You get what you give.

Perhaps you should analyze the content of your own posts.

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 02:19 PM | Reply

or Buffalo Bob

Martytylerwhore

man.....good times....

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:20 PM | Reply

-You get what you give.

Explains why people talk to you so nicely, Clown.

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:20 PM | Reply

"uh oh......."

Yeah...it's a good thing we had plenty of patriots around back in those days to fight off the reds.

#63 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-07 02:20 PM | Reply

Clownshack is not exactly the dude you want to go to for an adult conversation. Or an informed conversation. Or really any other sort of conversation. Unless you want to see what a less intelligent, left-wing version of Trump might look like.

#64 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-07 02:22 PM | Reply

but Democrats are unable to stop anything at the border.
#55 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

No need! Donnie built a wall. We're all good now.

It was yuge! A magnificent spectacle. That the wind blew over.

Republicans never met an undocumented immigrant they didn't want to hire.

You should change your username to Jokester.

Cause you're a joke.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 02:23 PM | Reply

Duuuuudeee!!!!!

That was a total burn!

#66 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-07 02:25 PM | Reply

Explains why people talk to you so nicely, Clown.
#62 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Yea.

I treat most people on the DR with respect.

Usually, even you.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 02:26 PM | Reply

"I treat most people on the DR with respect"

The only way you do that is by ignoring them.

If you bother to post to or about them?

well, it looks like this.....

I'm so respectful to people

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:29 PM | Reply

Cause you're a joke.
pedophile supporter.
garbage people
Thanks, dumb fffk.
You're a garbage human being.

just within the first 10 posts of your history.

Yep....massive respect you give others here.

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:32 PM | Reply

-Clownshack is not exactly the dude you want to go to for an adult conversation. Or an informed conversation.

Hold on...that's not fair. It depends on the topic.

If you glance at his posting history....you'll see pedophilia and gay porn mentioned.

Oh...and gerbils and child porn.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:35 PM | Reply

#64 it did not take Clownshack very long to prove your point, Madbomber. One minute according to the time stamp on posts #64 and #65

#71 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 02:36 PM | Reply

I love it how people whine so much about how they're treated here.

Don't like it? Try not posting easily or already debunked crap over and over and over and over and over...

You don't earn respect when you show up here and argue in bad faith.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 02:45 PM | Reply

"Don't like it? Try not posting easily or already debunked crap over and over and over and over and over..."

Debunked crap?

Aren't you the one who mentions how worthless the study of economics is?

Even though the only ones trying to debunk it are those who haven't taken the courses?

I mean, let's be honest. You have credibility when it comes to COVID as a result of your education. I'll listen to what you have to say. But you're clueless when it comes to economics. More importantly, you dismiss those who do economics professionally. I'm not sure why. I would think you would take it as an affront if an economist dismissed your informed opinion, yet you would seemingly dismiss the thoughts of economists when those thoughts conflicted with your economically uninformed opinions or positions.

#73 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-07 02:56 PM | Reply

So clownshart does a drive-by?

I love that guy....

but I have to leave for a while......have fun.

#74 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 02:58 PM | Reply

The only way you do that is by ignoring them.

Why don't you plonk me, then unplonk me, back and forth, while crying how mean I am.

You sad sack.

If you bother to post to or about them?
well, it looks like this.....
I'm so respectful to people
#68 | POSTED BY Beverly

Man. You really love the taste of my ---.

You whiny *itch.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:09 PM | Reply

He [CS] just doesn't pull any punches. It's his role here and I kinda like it since I have to pull mine or get sent to the cooler for three weeks.

#76 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-07 03:12 PM | Reply

just within the first 10 posts of your history.
Yep....massive respect you give others here.
#69 | POSTED BY EBERLY

They got what they deserved.

Your sad attempt at shame trolling is a joke.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:12 PM | Reply

If you glance at his posting history....you'll see pedophilia and gay porn mentioned.
Oh...and gerbils and child porn.
#70 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I must have been talking about Trump. Good times.

You're a typical low informed poster.

Unable to analyze the context of posts.

Just a dumb rube, who votes for Republicans.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:15 PM | Reply

it did not take Clownshack very long to prove your point, Madbomber. One minute according to the time stamp on posts #64 and #65
#71 | POSTED BY JOKESTER

QAnonBomber had a point?

Was it, Hitler is a socialist?

Who knows. Plonking that idiot, and Humtake, was the best decisions I've made on the DR.

#79 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:18 PM | Reply

Triggered.

#80 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 03:19 PM | Reply

-He [CS] just doesn't pull any punches.

True, and that's fine.

But he lectures others on "you get what you give"

Which is funny.

I'll bet cockshack has seen more ---- than a urinal at arrowhead Stadium

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 03:19 PM | Reply

"I must have been projecting...and pretending it's about Trump. Good times."

ft

#82 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 03:21 PM | Reply

So clownshart does a drive-by?

I didn't stick around to entertain you?

Cry some more.

I love that guy....

You love the taste of my ---.

but I have to leave for a while......have fun.
#74 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Why do you announce it?

No one gives a shht.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:22 PM | Reply

But he lectures others on "you get what you give"

"Lectures"

You sad child.

PS, You do get what you give in life.

Don't like the way you're being treated? Maybe it's you.

You dumb fkkk.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:23 PM | Reply

Triggered.
#80 | POSTED BY JOKESTER

You are?

Time to grow some thicker skin.

#85 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"I must have been projecting...and pretending it's about Trump. Good times."

ft
#82 | POSTED BY EBERLY

If this is your A game.

I feel sad for you.

You were never a good troll.

You're a pompous jackhole who thinks he knows it all.

You're clearly the smartest person you know.

And you prefer to keep it that way.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:27 PM | Reply

Hey Beverly

That enough of my meat for you for one day?

Or should I keep slapping your *itch arse around more?

You sad wannabe.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:29 PM | Reply

-Don't like the way you're being treated?

No, on the contrary, I love the way I'm being treated

You are making my day, cockshack.

#88 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 03:41 PM | Reply

You seem to have lost your shht and are begging to get kicked in the nuts.

All because I said you get what you give.

What's funny is.

I wouldn't have even bother to address anything you posted. Until you begged me to give you some attention.

Clearly. You're getting what you gave.

You learning yet, Beverly?

Or you too dumb still?

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 03:46 PM | Reply

-You learning yet,

No, but it's really entertaining.

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 04:04 PM | Reply

-You learning yet,

No,

Figures.

You're a Republican.

Which means you're allergic to learning anything.

#91 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 04:08 PM | Reply

-You're a Republican.

And you're a cockswallower

#92 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 04:12 PM | Reply

We are who we are.

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 04:16 PM | Reply

-I said you get what you give.

The ironic thing is that it's true.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 04:23 PM | Reply

that it's true.

*facepalm*

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 04:28 PM | Reply

Economics is great at post-mortem reports.

Taking the recent past and explaining it in constructs they create.

As far as doing well predicting future events or reliably assessing markets/trends ect? Pfffft. Sucks. Sucks bad.

And the way things are so extensively integrated now basics like supply and demand often fail to predict or explain phenomena.

I'm not sure why.

Because despite the above it's treated as a hard discipline where over-confidence is rampant.

#96 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 04:30 PM | Reply

But he lectures others on "you get what you give"

This is only a relevant comment if he whines about how he is treated.

He doesn't seem to. He seems to accept his role as ---- talker and ---- taker.

#97 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 04:31 PM | Reply

-This is only a relevant comment if he whines about how he is treated.

Whining about how he's treated isn't what started this.

It was this...."I treat most people on the DR with respect."

which is hilarious.

#98 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 04:37 PM | Reply

Jesus, is there anymore sad sack of ---- than Moder8? I didnt even notice #45 and apparently, no one else did either.

In addition to being the worst attorney on the planet, he's also the worst troll...

#99 | Posted by boaz at 2021-04-07 04:38 PM | Reply

It was this...."I treat most people on the DR with respect."

Honestly, I don't pay attention to him unless he's directly addressing me.

Is he really a dick to everybody? Or are you just following your confirmation bias and thinking only of those he is a dick to?

#100 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 04:40 PM | Reply

-Is he really a dick to everybody?

decide for yourself. You can only judge him by what he posts...

drudge.com

#101 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 04:42 PM | Reply

Whining about how he's treated isn't what started this.
It was this...."I treat most people on the DR with respect.
which is hilarious.

You, like most Trump voters, don't understand the concept of the word "most".

Just because I don't respect the trolls and idiots who post on the DR.

Doesn't mean I don't respect other posters who make up "most" of the people on the DR.

Did you actually think you had a point when you came after me?

Get your foot out of your mouth and shut up.

#102 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 04:45 PM | Reply

decide for yourself. You can only judge him by what he posts...
drudge.com
#101 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You keep proving you're an idiot.

You've been putting on quite the show all thread.

Just love my foot up your arse.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 04:48 PM | Reply

-Doesn't mean I don't respect other posters who make up "most" of the people on the DR.

Doesn't mean you do either.

but 80% of your posts posses zero respect.

The only respect you give is by ignoring them...which I already pointed out.

#104 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 04:51 PM | Reply

Doesn't mean you do either.

Wow. Quite the Taoist you've become.

but 80% of your posts posses zero respect.

80%?

You got all your monkeys in the shop cranking out numbers for you?

JPW already nailed you.

Is he really a dick to everybody? Or are you just following your confirmation bias and thinking only of those he is a dick to?

#100 | POSTED BY JPW



The only respect you give is by ignoring them...which I already pointed out.
#104 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You pointed something out?

Is it the point on the top of your head?

Idiot.

#105 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 04:57 PM | Reply

-You got all your monkeys in the shop cranking out numbers for you?

Your posts are a matter of public record here.

They speak for themself.

You are pretty upset with me right now with all the insults and continued focus on all my body parts.

I'm going to turn you off for a while....I really think that's best.

#106 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 05:03 PM | Reply

Honestly, I don't pay attention to him unless he's directly addressing me.
#100 | POSTED BY JPW

Eberly can't seem to do that. This entire nonsense started because I told Miranda7 "you get what you give."

Which made Eberly lose his shht.

Because the guy is obsessed with the smell of my D.

But. He's also obsessed with Snoofy and Speaksofty and anyone who doesn't kiss his arse.

#107 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 05:05 PM | Reply

You are pretty upset with me right now
I'm going to turn you off for a while....
#106 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I'm so upset.

You better hurry and run away!

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 05:06 PM | Reply

I love it how people whine so much about how they're treated here.
Don't like it? Try not posting easily or already debunked crap over and over and over and over and over...
You don't earn respect when you show up here and argue in bad faith.

#72 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-04-07 02:45 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Another garbage post. "debunked"? Is that what you call the Biden's memoirs these days.

#109 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 06:07 PM | Reply

Yep.
Family_Values is Jacque_Strap
Bellringer - I leave to others to figure out.
The 8 different names that IraGoldberg posted under.
Plus Gracie and her non-stop "sockpuppet" nonsense for everyone else is massive projection.
At least Boaz never changed as far as I can tell.

#36 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2021-04-07 12:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I don't know the other's but middle finger to you. You cant have it both ways. Just because you and a few other rabid cornholers around here don't like a bit of a challenge in you hidey-hole here, doesn't mean everyone you don't know/agree with is a sock puppet.

Another garbage post. go back under your rock.

#110 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 06:11 PM | Reply

" Just because you and a few other rabid cornholers around here don't like a bit of a challenge in you hidey-hole here, doesn't mean everyone you don't know/agree with is a sock puppet."
~Bellringer

Well, that settles it. Bellringer is a sock puppet.

Throw a rock at a pack of mongrels; the one who yelps is the one who got hit.

#111 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 06:17 PM | Reply

Bellringer is a sock puppet.

He reminds me of sheepleschism.

#112 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 06:23 PM | Reply

"Snoofy and Speaksofty and
#107 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Jesus smiled on me the day those 3 azcracker hating sobs plawnked me.
Never de-plawnk please.
Oh and I send 3 GFYs.
~flipoff

#113 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-07 06:25 PM | Reply

Another garbage post. "debunked"? Is that what you call the Biden's memoirs these days.

#109 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That was specific for the people it was addressed to.

For morons like you the crap you spew is so bad it never even got far enough off the ground to need debunking.

#114 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 06:25 PM | Reply

a few other rabid cornholers around here don't like a bit of a challenge in you hidey-hole here, doesn't mean everyone you don't know/agree with is a sock puppet.

We don't despise you because you're a "challenge."

We despise you because you're a dishonest, lying sack of ----.

See the difference?

#115 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 06:26 PM | Reply

You're an optimist, as always, JPW.
I'm not sure bellringer has the moral capacity to know the difference, let alone see the difference.

#116 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 06:35 PM | Reply

"Just because you and a few other rabid cornholers around here don't like a bit of a challenge in you hidey-hole here, doesn't mean everyone you don't know/agree with is a sock puppet"

What it means is that they have accepted the reality that nobody on the planet is interested in coming here anymore.

It's not possible anybody new could show up and dislike them.

LOL

The Truth is that nobody new is coming here on either side.

#117 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 06:51 PM | Reply

Times change, technology changes, new competitors arise, social media wasn't even a thought when most of the "good times" happened at the DR. I put "good times" in quotes because they weren't always that good. There were just memorable moments.

You're still here for some reason. What is it this place provides you, Eberly?

#118 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 06:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yav, i'm either a masochist or a sadist. I haven't figured out which one yet.

#119 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 06:56 PM | Reply

Maybe both?
You're a better masochist, though.

:)

#120 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 07:03 PM | Reply

I have tried to participate here a handful of times, but all I see is a lot of name calling and very little substance. People like Clownshack and Yav and Danforth, and JPW make me ashamed to say I'm a liberal.

I've lurked here a bit more than I've posted and I must say, this site is void of any real substance. The majority of what I see is childish taunting of each other. My first post on this topic is a perfect example. Clownshack obviously disagreed, and I have no problem with that at all, but rather than engaging me in intelligent debate and offering a counterpoint, he chose to insult me. He also had to drag Trump, whom I can't stand, into his childish taunt. (that seems to be a recurring theme on this site) I don't understand why he didn't offer a counterpoint instead.

As Mr. Eberly said, no one new is coming here. This topic is a perfect example why. Over 100 posts and very few if any comment on the featured article.

#121 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 07:11 PM | Reply

Yav, I'm either a masochist or a sadist. I haven't figured out which one yet.

Perhaps a bit of both. America is filled to the brim with us. It's a national problem. After some impromptu therapy, I learned that striking children is unlawful under circumstances. But it's all my mother and father and teachers knew how to handle sassy kids. To punch, slap, or wave kitchen knives at you. And for the teachers, they loved to paddle kids. I could see their eyes dilating and drool oozing from their mouths when the time came for the whippings. The best teachers I respected I never got into trouble with. They happened to know their professions unlike the coach-history teachers who got by on their minors in English or History.

#122 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-07 07:12 PM | Reply

I recognized the Dr Jekyl/Mr Hyde duality to my nature as a child. It's one of the reasons for the handle "Madscientist". I knew if I didn't keep a tight lid on Dr Jekyl, Mr Hyde could come out and fight a verbal battle to the death or get a three-week suspension.

It only comes out now about once a year when the house is empty and I have a clandestine weekend to myself and a bottle of congac. And log on to the
Retort and proceed to mildly start drunkposting.

I've been liquor-free for about 20 years now, but every once in a while, when the ball and chain forgets and leaves the keys to the glass tantalus booze-holder, do I get a chance to relive my youth.

#123 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-07 07:18 PM | Reply

What it means is that they have accepted the reality that nobody on the planet is interested in coming here anymore.

And yet. You keep coming back.

Shocking.

Also. There are new posters all the time.

This is a redundant conversation.

Where the trolls cry that this place is collapsing because they're not allowed to spread their nonsense and bullshht.

#124 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 07:20 PM | Reply

People like Clownshack and Yav and Danforth, and JPW make me ashamed to say I'm a liberal.

"It's them! It's not me!"

#125 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 07:22 PM | Reply

...and a bottle of congac.

Hennessey? Or are you one of those Courvoisier heathens?

#126 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-04-07 07:24 PM | Reply

#125 Your is a valid observation. After all, I have no quarrel with you, yet you chose to launch an attack rather than a sound rebuttal to my posting.

#127 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 07:24 PM | Reply

As Mr. Eberly said, no one new is coming here.
#121 | POSTED BY JOKESTER

Yet. You're new.

Right?

#128 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 07:26 PM | Reply

Your is a valid observation.

Thanks. Most my observations tend to be so.

#129 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 07:28 PM | Reply

Jake, I also lurked for a while in order to get each posters' personality down so as to avoid making nebulous statements a target for ridicule. It's not that hard to imagine each poster as a person.

And even that's not good enough sometimes. Even as a liberal, some people regularly misinterpret what I type. It's par for the course. Most of the impetus for coming here is to poke holes in other peoples' logic.

So, just blow it off like water running down a duck's back.

#130 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-07 07:28 PM | Reply

#128 "New" is relative and I have no idea how long everyone else has been here. I opened an account here about 6 months ago. Is that new?

#131 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 07:32 PM | Reply

#126 Hennessy V.S.O.P. Premier Privilege Cognac.

#132 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-07 07:33 PM | Reply

Most of the impetus for coming here is to poke holes in other peoples' logic.
#130 | POSTED BY MADSCIENTIST

I come here for others to poke holes in my logic. Only way I can confidently take on the hardcore Righties that I know.

To them, it makes me look a lot smarter than I am.

#133 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-07 07:38 PM | Reply

131

Yes, that's new.

-There are new posters all the time.

not according to Danforth and others here who immediately accuse everyone new of being a sock puppet account.

Honestly, I doubt many new posters have come here at all for the past 5 years.

Who are they? Maybe I'm not here enough to know.

#134 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 07:38 PM | Reply

I opened an account here about 6 months ago. Is that new?
#131 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Opening an account and participating on threads are different matters.

As Mad says above. This is a place to discuss things. But be prepared for the response.

By the way. Why didn't you respond to #65?

You claimed Democrats can't stop anything at the border.

I mocked your assertion.

What was your response? To complain about me being mean?

Why?

#135 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 07:40 PM | Reply

#130 your reasoned and mature response is appreciated.

#136 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 07:44 PM | Reply

#135 I sis nor perceive you as being mean. I see you as being childish and petulant. However, I will concede all I have are your posts to make that judgement. Outside of this site you may actually be opposite that

#137 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 07:49 PM | Reply

Hennessy V.S.O.P. Premier Privilege Cognac.

Nice. Do you mix with regular Coke or diet?

#138 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-04-07 07:59 PM | Reply

#137 | POSTED BY JOKESTER

I knew you were a jokester.

Welcome to the retort.

#139 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 08:13 PM | Reply

Well, that settles it. Bellringer is a sock puppet.
Throw a rock at a pack of mongrels; the one who yelps is the one who got hit.

#111 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-04-07 06:17 PM | REPLY | FLAG

You morons have been saying that ---- since I joined the site. DId I touch you somewhere inappropriate or something?

#140 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:14 PM | Reply

Bellringer is a sock puppet.
He reminds me of sheepleschism.

#112 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2021-04-07 06:23 PM

You remind me of a perpetual victim. show us where they touched you.

#141 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:15 PM | Reply

People like Clownshack and Yav and Danforth, and JPW make me ashamed to say I'm a liberal.

Why? Because I don't put up with victimhood, lies, --------, and racist crap? I only give the respect that's due someone. Post something that's a lie or not thought-out as "fact" and if it catches my attention, I'll let you know in terms based on the attitude shown in the post. Demand respect before earning it, you won't get it. Courtesy is given when it is received. Everyone starts out with the benefit of doubt with me, though.

Regarding embarrassment, it is not possible for me to make you ashamed or embarrassed about being a liberal. Only you can embarrass yourself. What behavior did you find so offensive from me towards another poster that you'd feel ashamed about core principles you supposedly hold? That seems inconsistent to me.

Are you upset with the way I responded to a particular poster? I'm mildly interested.
Yeah. I'm not.
I have no doubt they deserved it and I was probably holding back on what they actually deserved.

#142 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 08:18 PM | Reply

In post 135, Clownshack said, "I mocked your assertion."

I was expecting a reasonable rebuttal, not mocking.

#143 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 08:18 PM | Reply

That was specific for the people it was addressed to.
For morons like you the crap you spew is so bad it never even got far enough off the ground to need debunking.

#114 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-04-07 06:25 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

And you're a perpetual idiot that continues to post garbage replies, fake virologist. You got your stupid --- called out a little while back. More like a janitor at the CDC.

#144 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:18 PM | Reply

#141 - You remind me of a perpetual victim. show us where they touched you.

That's always creepy when you pull out that line, and you do it too often for it not to be significant in your life.

#145 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In post 135, Clownshack said, "I mocked your assertion."
I was expecting a reasonable rebuttal, not mocking.

#143 | POSTED BY JAKESTER AT 2021-04-07 08:18 PM | REPLY

Don't get your hope up here in remedial class.

#146 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:19 PM | Reply

I mocked your assertion.

#135 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2021-04-07 07:40 PM | REPLY

Oh my goodness. Somebody call the AP. Dickshak mocked someone.

#147 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:21 PM | Reply

Like you're an example, Bellringer?

LMAO!

#148 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 08:21 PM | Reply

That's always creepy when you pull out that line, and you do it too often for it not to be significant in your life.

#145 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2021-04-07 08:19 PM | REPLY

LOL no one yanked your chain - yard dog.

#149 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:22 PM | Reply

"You morons have been saying that ---- since I joined the site."

Two whole months??? How will you ever survive?

#150 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 08:22 PM | Reply

Two whole months??? How will you ever survive?

#150 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-04-07 08:22 PM | REPLY

Watch me, Dick.. And pay close attention.

#151 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:23 PM | Reply

I was expecting a reasonable rebuttal, not mocking.
#143 | POSTED BY JOKESTER

To what? This:

Democrats are unable to stop anything at the border.
#55 | POSTED BY JOKESTER

#152 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-07 08:24 PM | Reply

--------- is all frothy.

#153 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:26 PM | Reply

#152. Yes, to that

#154 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 08:30 PM | Reply

LOL no one yanked your chain - yard dog.

An observation. It's consistently a "taunt" of yours. It seems you have unresolved issues, or worse. I prefer to think the former, not the latter.

#155 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 08:31 PM | Reply

LOL no one yanked your chain - yard dog.
An observation. It's consistently a "taunt" of yours. It seems you have unresolved issues, or worse. I prefer to think the former, not the latter.

#155 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2021-04-07 08:31 PM | REPLY

Apparently you're the "taunted"

Get a life, troll.

#156 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-07 08:40 PM | Reply

I have a life, thank you. It's one I dearly love and treasure. This isn't about me, though. Thanks for your concern. It's about your creepy and consistent use of sexual abuse and molestation as a way to strike out at anonymous posters on a blog. It's peculiar because you're not doing it to make a point.

#157 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It's about your creepy and consistent use of sexual abuse and molestation as a way to strike out at anonymous posters on a blog."

enough about clownshack

#158 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-07 08:50 PM | Reply

YAV there was just enough haze so it didn't show damit.

#159 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-07 09:05 PM | Reply

Phester! Damn it! Here's another site - but use this one with the other one to help pin down the times. I have three attempts scheduled this weekend.

http://findstarlink.com

Thanks for letting me know, Phester. I'll keep hoping you get a chance to see them!

#160 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 09:09 PM | Reply

People like Clownshack and Yav and Danforth, and JPW make me ashamed to say I'm a liberal.

I've lurked here a bit more than I've posted and I must say, this site is void of any real substance.

You're blind if you think that's not the remaining conservative's fault.

They voted for four more years of Trump but less than a hundred days of Biden and the country is dead. Ask why? You get nonsense from Breitbart or worse. Usually worse.

Look at the recent discussion with --------------- pushing Ashley Biden's "journal" claiming showers with Dad made her a sex addict.

It's pure garbage not worthy of a legit response and acting like it is for the sake of "substance" is validating it.

Sorry, but if that's your thing then I'm glad you dont want to be like me because you've got some serious issues with integrity and honesty.

#161 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:16 PM | Reply

#161 My point is reinforced.

#162 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 10:24 PM | Reply

And you're a perpetual idiot that continues to post garbage replies, fake virologist. You got your stupid --- called out a little while back. More like a janitor at the CDC.

#144 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You calling making up stupid stuff isnt "calling someone out."

It's you making stupid stuff up because you don't have a thing to say worth posting.

#163 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:26 PM | Reply

#162 that you're a whiner?

Or do you really think a well reasoned, thought out response is required to baseless assertions from right wing lunacy sites that Biden showered with his daughter?

Some stuff is beneath a civil response, especially when it's repeated over and over by the same poster after it's been pointed out as baseless tabloid level nonsense.

#164 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:28 PM | Reply

BTW I'm not a liberal, either.

Maybe be more familiar with posters before complaining about their conduct?

#165 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:29 PM | Reply

That's always creepy when you pull out that line, and you do it too often for it not to be significant in your life.

#145 | POSTED BY YAV

Yeup.

#166 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:30 PM | Reply

#164 and again.

#167 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 10:33 PM | Reply

#162 - "My point is reinforced" #167 "and again."

What point, specifically?

Right now you appear unaware that JPW analyzed, evaluated, and correctly concluded a position about you that is fair. Feel free to correct that by posting further and engaging, not whining or thinking that a retort like that is clever.

For instance your "#6 He should, but Democrats are unable to stop anything at the border" was a whine, and deserved the response it got, but you were offended. You offerend nothing with that post, nor did you say what "anything" even means. Your position assumes nothing is being done, or that the solution is to "stop" "somethng" (undetermined).

Perhaps you'll sharpen up once you post some more and get into some back-and-forth. If you're honest, don't lie, and are actually interested in conversing this place is fine. Up to you. Right now you're wasting that benefit of doubt and looking less interesting.

#168 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 10:38 PM | Reply

You're whining there isn't substantive conversation but yet don't address the questions.

Is that type of posting worthy of a response?

How about random assertions of molestation out of the blue? Is that substantive enough for you?

#169 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:38 PM | Reply

Yav asks, "What point, specifically?"

That people on this site are more interested in engaging in personal attacks and insults than actual debate. No one here can deny that. And some, when unable, will blame the other side.

JPW claims, "BTW I'm not a liberal, either."

I never thought you were. Liberals are much more civil and less insulting to others than you.

#170 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 10:45 PM | Reply

If you're honest, don't lie, and are actually interested in conversing this place is fine.

There are certainly lefty posters who will go after any viewpoint that differs from theirs. Usually accusing the poster of being a Conservative even when they're not. I know because it's happened to me.

But there are plenty of posters here who will engage in good faith debate and discussion when posts are made in good faith to begin with.

#171 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:46 PM | Reply

#168 I mean no offense when I say that I do not put much stock in comments by people who pretend to know another's mind. But the fact is, I don't. Again, I mean no offense, that's just how I feel.

#172 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 10:47 PM | Reply

Liberals are much more civil and less insulting to others than you.

#170 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Yawn.

Accepting tabloid lies and garbage isn't being civil.

It's convincing yourself you're being civil while really you're just being walked on.

#173 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:48 PM | Reply

And again, I've attempted to engage you in good faith by asking real questions.

You've avoided them and made your own personal attacks instead.

Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

#174 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 10:49 PM | Reply

JPW says, "you're just being walked on."

By whom?

#175 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 10:50 PM | Reply

JPW said, "made your own personal attacks instead."

Can you cite two of them?

#176 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 10:51 PM | Reply

That people on this site are more interested in engaging in personal attacks and insults than actual debate. No one here can deny that. And some, when unable, will blame the other side.

You included me in your post that called out JPW, Danforth, and Clownshack. The only thing any of us do that is consistent is not put up with lies. Until we all start fighting the lies, misinformation, propaganda from the right there's no point in crying about being "civil" or "fair." That's how we continue to lose. I argued in good faith for years and accomplished nothing and convinced no one on the "right" of any truth - no matter how obvious the truth was to everyone else. Then Trump came in and it all went to hell.

I will NOT accept or promote a false premise by a trumper so that it can be "argued." You don't argue about the value of a lie.

And Danforth? You complained about Danforth?
{sigh}

#177 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:02 PM | Reply

"There are new posters all the time."

Not who take over threads on their first or second day.

And those who do seem to have very familiar talking points. One multi-handler always attacks Cuomo's response to Covid, while ignoring say, Abbott or DeSantis. Another's debate tactic always seems to revolve around minutia you'd have to be stupid not to understand, and the tactic is usually to deflect off the main topic.

Sound familiar?

#178 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-07 11:05 PM | Reply

Can you cite two of them?
#176 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Cuz you know there's at least one?

#179 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-07 11:07 PM | Reply

Can you cite two of them?

#176 | Posted by jakester

Well, there was the initial comment and the prove my point follow ups that were made in lieu of answering straight forward questions.

You called a poster childish and petulant.

Your unwillingness to address direct questions makes me question how concerned you actually are with other poster's conduct.

#180 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:08 PM | Reply

JPW says, "you're just being walked on."

By whom?

#175 | Posted by jakester

The person lying to your face and slandering other people while receiving no push back from you.

#181 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:09 PM | Reply

I will NOT accept or promote a false premise by a trumper so that it can be "argued." You don't argue about the value of a lie.

Much better put than my posts.

Although I would say a false premise by anybody.

And Danforth? You complained about Danforth?
{sigh}

#177 | Posted by YAV

Yeah that one didn't make much sense to me either.

#182 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:11 PM | Reply

Although I would say a false premise by anybody.

Agreed.

#183 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-07 11:13 PM | Reply

JPW said, "You called a poster childish and petulant."

Actually, I said, "I see you as being childish and petulant." That is clearly an opinion and not a statement of fact as "You are childish and petulant" would be. In fact, I even followed it up with, "However, I will concede all I have are your posts to make that judgement. Outside of this site you may actually be opposite that".

Again, I ask if you can cite two instances?

#184 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 11:16 PM | Reply

RSTYBEACH11 said, "Cuz you know there's at least one?"

No, because JPW used the plural, so I requested the smallest plural number of instances.

#185 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 11:18 PM | Reply

Again, I ask if you can cite two instances?

#184 | Posted by jakester

LOL this guy is a goatman clone.

Already did. Your semantics don't change that.

Answer my questions that I asked several times above.

Or just tell me you'll answer them after I answer your already answered question and truly be a goatman clone.

#186 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:18 PM | Reply

Jakester, take my word for it, Clownshack, JPW, and Danforth know what they're talking about before posting something. They are seasoned professionals in their respective areas. Better to sit back and learn instead of arguing with them over minutiae.

#187 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-07 11:20 PM | Reply

#186 Well, you didn't. That you think you did is really odd -- especially when the original post still exists, especially when I conceded that I could be wrong.

Let's see if Yav lives up to his claim about how he responds to lies and disinformation.

I have to walk my dog. Please pardon me.

#188 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 11:25 PM | Reply

This dude has got to be goatman.

or else he has the goatuse skills down pat.

Answer the questions, jakester.

Should tabloid lies and slander be treated as civil conversation and responded to with a reasoned, substantive argument? What about the third time it's posted after twice being shown to be unsubstantiated BS? Still have to be "civil" and respond politely?

#189 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:29 PM | Reply

I'm doing what you claimed you wanted and am trying to engage you in good faith without insult, mockery or names calling.

You do want that, don't you?

#190 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:30 PM | Reply

#187 thanks for the advice, but it's unlikely I'll stick around. There is just too much child like behavior for my taste. I'm liberal and I love to see other liberals bash conservatives -- but I like seeing it done with logic and facts, not with kindergarten name calling. That really doesn't do it for me.

Look at this topic. As far as I can tell there is not one single comment on the featured story. But there are dozens of posts of people calling each other names.

As I said, it's just not my cup of tea.

Dog is prancing. I had better go

#191 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 11:31 PM | Reply

but I like seeing it done with logic and facts, not with kindergarten name calling. That really doesn't do it for me.

So you're a pseudointellectual then?

Can't think of any other reason to keep blathering on about civil conversation while continually dodging attempts to have a discussion so you can keep whining about the quality of discussions.

#192 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:40 PM | Reply

Do you watch those liberal YouTube channels with RANDOM words CAPITALIZED in the titles so you know some Fox host got HUMILIATED or DESTROYED? Only to have a short video clip followed by a guy in a suit giving easy analysis and saying nothing that a well informed person wouldn't already know?

Is that what you want when you look liberals to BASH conservatives with FACTS and LOGIC?

#193 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-07 11:45 PM | Reply

JPW asked, "Should tabloid lies and slander be treated as civil conversation and responded to with a reasoned, substantive argument?"

Of course. In fact, lies and slander are the easiest things to disprove. Do so in a civil manner and you are less likely to hear them repeated than if you engage in name calling. That has been my experience.

#194 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 11:54 PM | Reply

JPW asked, "Do you watch those liberal YouTube channels..."

Can't say that I do.

#195 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-07 11:57 PM | Reply

Do so in a civil manner and you are less likely to hear them repeated than if you engage in name calling. That has been my experience.

#194 | Posted by jakester

Thank you for answering.

I can tell you that that doesn't work with certain posters. A civil rebuttal will be met with crude arguments, often repeating the original claim, and logical fallacies galore.

The next time the topic comes up the same lie will be repeated again as if the previous rebuttal never happened.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Those posters are the ones you see met with derision and contempt. They're known variables to veteran posters here and, often times because of what I described above, the topics have already been beaten to death.

The treatment you find off putting isn't arbitrary or unearned.

#196 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 12:03 AM | Reply

As an example check out this thread if you haven't already:

drudge.com

Boaz has argued the 2nd amendment is absolute and sacrosanct dozens of times.

Corky has argued dozens of times that the individual right to own a firearm is a recent NRA invention.

Snoofy will probably chime in with endless rhetorical questions and insinuations that if you disagree with him you're love dead kids.

Those are the arguments where you'll see some nut kicking. That's sort of expected here.

But discussion will happen, posters like et_al will bring expert opinion to it and explain why the lay reading of the amendment isn't what the founders meant and it will get interesting.

Feel free to offer up a point that you think is novel. It will be refreshing to have a new argument tossed in the ring.

#197 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 12:10 AM | Reply

JPW said, "I can tell you that that doesn't work with certain posters."

I know that is true. I've seen it hundreds of times myself. So why do you continue to waste your time on them? They damage their own credibility more than you could ever hope to do with your continued name calling. Why lower yourself to that level?

#198 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 12:16 AM | Reply

JPW asked, "So you're a pseudointellectual then?"

I guess it depends on whose eyes you are looking through. If you want to call me that, I'm good with it. If you think I'm not, I'm cool with that as well. I don't pretend to know people's minds.

#199 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 12:18 AM | Reply

-But there are plenty of posters here who will engage in good faith debate and discussion when posts are made in good faith to begin with.

And by plenty.....you mean?

#200 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 12:19 AM | Reply

Why lower yourself to that level?

#198 | Posted by jakester

A good question I don't have a good answer for.

I could, of course, plonk them but that just seems like a cop out.

#201 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 12:22 AM | Reply

Plonk means to block their posts, I presume? Seems like a good option to exercise on purely trash posters. Life's too short to waste on that type. But if you feel that is a cop out, just ignore them. That would appear to be a win/win situation.

#202 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 12:28 AM | Reply

And by plenty.....you mean?

#200 | Posted by eberly

Just about every poster here is capable at times.

See the particle physics thread currently up.

You
Yav
Corky (on most topics)
Madscientist
Danforth
AmericanUnity
Tor
Boaz (at times)
et_al
Tao
Redial
Madbomber (on most topics)
Rsty

Who would you say never engages in good faith debate?

#203 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 12:31 AM | Reply

Plonk means to block their posts, I presume?

Yes, the kill file option available on poster's user pages.

But if you feel that is a cop out, just ignore them. That would appear to be a win/win situation.

#202 | Posted by jakester

Oh I know. The rational side of my brain says that for sure.

But the irrational side loathes dishonesty and has trouble letting it slide.

#204 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 12:33 AM | Reply

"And Danforth? You complained about Danforth?
~YAV

"Yeah that one didn't make much sense to me either."
~JPW

That lowlife? I know for a fact his boss touches him at work!

#205 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 12:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"But the irrational side loathes dishonesty and has trouble letting it slide."

Heck, I refer to that as my rational side.

"I can't come to bed, honey...someone is wrong on the internet!!!"

#206 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 12:47 AM | Reply

#204 Fair enough. I think we have all succumbed to the dark side of the blogshpere at one time or another. The hard part is ignoring its siren song. Idiots who continue to embrace their lies in the face of cold hard facts don't have the intellectual capacity to win a fair fight. Their objective is to drag you down to their level. If they succeed in doing that, they win.

#207 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 12:47 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "Heck, I refer to that as my rational side."

I wholeheartedly disagree. It is not rational to continue an argument worth someone who irrationally embraces a lie. If you can't change his mind with facts, do you really think you can do it by calling him names? Of course not. You only encourage him to dig his heels in deeper.

Ignore these idiots, for ----- sake. Futile grammar school name calling simply proves you are no better than they are. Is that what you want?

(can we say "----" on this site?)

#208 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 12:53 AM | Reply

I said, " If you can't change his mind with facts, do you really think you can do it by calling him names? "

I would like to add to that, why is it so important to try to change an idiot's mind? You never will. Have you any evidence at all that a Trump lover ever changed their mind?

#209 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 12:59 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "Heck, I refer to that as my rational side.

"I can't come to bed, honey...someone is wrong on the internet!!!""

Do you think that is rational?

#210 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 01:11 AM | Reply

It is not rational to continue an argument worth [sic] someone who irrationally embraces a lie. If you can't change his mind with facts, do you really think you can do it by calling him names?

Then there's the entertainment value in rubbing the nose of the ignorant in the piles of manure they cast about.

There's also the "preaching to the choir" aspect. There are far more lurkers than posters here. Sometimes the argument continues to educate those that lurk.

I try to avoid name calling.

#211 | Posted by et_al at 2021-04-08 01:13 AM | Reply

Et al said, "There are far more lurkers than posters here. Sometimes the argument continues to educate those that lurk."

I agree that a sound argument may change a mind. But repetitive name calling and denigration of a poster? Nope. That will never change anyone's mind. In fact, I think a sound argument could be made that it further distances a person from their point of view.

#212 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 01:18 AM | Reply

#212

I try not to name call so I don't disagree with that argument. But what if I don't give a s**t about that person's ignorant point of view and want to educate others?

#213 | Posted by et_al at 2021-04-08 01:26 AM | Reply

People who get sucked into these trolls pov need to know things like:

"Hey, this guy is a swastika rehabilitator."

They deserve to know they are being groomed. It's our responsibility to police our own community.

So, there's nothing wrong with letting people know what they're getting into.

Sen. Robert Byrd has a quote about that kind of thing, back when he joined up with the KKK. Back in the Dixiecrat days.

It's a good quote. Millions of QAnon followers would do well to heed his advice.

#214 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 01:27 AM | Reply

Snoofy said, "They deserve to know they are being groomed. "

So you think repeatedly saying, "Hey you dumb ----, you are being groomed" is going to change their minds? I've never seen any evidence of that approach working. I believe it causes targeted person to dig in deeper.

Do you have evidence of that approach ever working?

Snoofy continues, "So, there's nothing wrong with letting people know what they're getting into."

OK. So let them know and move on. No need in continuing the denigration which doesn't work anyway.

#215 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 01:33 AM | Reply

I don't say that.

#216 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 01:34 AM | Reply

And yes, there is reason to keep crying wolf, so long as the wolf remains.

Good night.

#217 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 01:35 AM | Reply

"Do you think that is rational?"

The not coming to bed, part? No. The correcting someone who is wrong part? Absolutely. Lies don't deserved to be tolerated; they should be replaced with knowledge.

The frustrating part is say, when a poster gets corrected with irrefutable facts and figures, then pops up later to regurgitate the same lies.

#218 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 01:40 AM | Reply

Snoofy said, "And yes, there is reason to keep crying wolf, so long as the wolf remains."

Either you do not understand the fable of the boy who cried wolf, or you endorse a continual pattern of lying. The fable is about a boy who who craved attention and lied about the presence of a wolf amongst the sheep to get that attention. One day a wolf showed up and no one believed him when he needed help against it.

Is this what you advocate? Lying about an imagined threat because one day there might be one? Your rationale is irrational.

#219 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 01:46 AM | Reply

"How do you prove anything?"

Actually, that's what I was asking you. So far, it's an inkling.

"It's not that large of a group....30 or so members."

And you believe the least-honest person in the bunch?

#220 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 01:49 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "The frustrating part is say, when a poster gets corrected with irrefutable facts and figures, then pops up later to regurgitate the same lies."

Why do you feel this person is worthy of your time, especially when you will not change his mind? State your case and move on. If you changed his mind (highly unlikely) then great! If you didn't (most likely) you never will. And again, why is it so important to you to make someone think like yourself? I guess you and I are different. I don't waste my time on lost causes like trying to change a Trumper's mind. Why do you?

#221 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 01:50 AM | Reply

"...not according to Danforth and others here who immediately accuse everyone new of being a sock puppet account."
~Eberly

"The Truth is that nobody new is coming here on either side."
~Eberly

So...it seems Eberly disagrees with Eberly and agrees with Danforth. Did I get that right?

#222 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 01:52 AM | Reply

"why is it so important to you to make someone think like yourself?"

Sometimes, folks are getting the concept wrong.

Remember when the Republican talking point was all about how the "middle class tax cut" would lead to corporations raising wages? That goes against the actual equation, which disincentivizes reinvestment, whether equipment, labor, or training. Folks squawking about how much more money would be in the average Joe's pocket needed to be told it was actually $3/wk. Even Gary Cohn was stunned when CEOs didn't raise their hand when asked if they'd reinvest. But it's the equation.

Same that idiotic talking point that "47% don't pay taxes"? First, it's dead wrong. Second, the folks bitching about it elected the folks responsible, and third, that "talking point" percentage will spike with the addition of the missed stimulus payments rebated on the 1040, and the Unemployment Compensation Exclusion of up to $10,200/filer. And any tax discussions which ignore the tax most people pay more of--payroll taxes--usually needs to be properly reframed to be honest.

"I don't waste my time on lost causes like trying to change a Trumper's mind. Why do you?"

I've always seem myself as a teacher; I believe truth empowers people. Even in my tax practice, I spend more time learning and passing it on than actual prep.

#223 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 02:09 AM | Reply

"Is this what you advocate? Lying about an imagined threat "

If you look at the GA and TX voting laws and proposals, that threat isn't imagined.

#224 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 02:10 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "Sometimes, folks are getting the concept wrong."

Yes, you are absolutely correct. But again, why is it so important to you that you make them think like you?

Guess what? That person whose mind you are so intent on changing believes you have the concept wrong. What are the chances that he's going to change your mind? Right. So why do you think you can change his? And why is it so important to you that you do so?

#225 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 02:27 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "If you look at the GA and TX voting laws and proposals, that threat isn't imagined."

You know that. I know that. But here are people who believe otherwise. You cannot change a Trumper's mind. That is the truth. And you say you want people to believe the truth. Believe that one. If you can't accept that truism, , how can you expect others to accept your truths?

#226 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 02:33 AM | Reply

Even Gary Cohn was stunned when CEOs didn't raise their hand when asked if they'd reinvest. But it's the equation.

Was that the focus group of 20 or so CEO's who gathered before the tax cut was enacted? If so, I recall only 2 or 3 raised their hands.

At the time, most of us non-right wingers here on DR were saying they'd do exactly what they ended up doing with the tax savings, which was using the cash for stock buybacks, not increasing wages or reinvesting in new plants on American soil. And we were right.

Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations have led to one thing and one thing only for the past 40 years since Reagan and Republicans rolled out 'trickle down economics': deficits and debt.

#227 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-08 03:00 AM | Reply

"why is it so important to you that you make them think like you?"

To teach them. I said that upthread.

"Guess what? That person whose mind you are so intent on changing believes you have the concept wrong. "

It's possible he's a moron. For example, if someone believes tax cuts increase revenue, he has the concept wrong.

"why do you think you can change his? And why is it so important to you that you do so?"

I believe in personal growth, leading to a better tomorrow. Are you content when you hear a lie? A blatant, purposeful one?? I'm not.

"If you can't accept that truism, , how can you expect others to accept your truths?"

Huh? If I can't accept they won't accept the truth, then how can I expect them to accept the truth?!? . Are you trying be be circular?

Anyway, if you're asking what I think you're asking, it's because I have faith...and a tiny amount of hope. I also believe it's bending the arc of history in its micro way. And as someone upthread commented, sometimes lurkers learn. And I can certainly say for myself, I've stopped using numerous talking points after being corrected. Frankly I expect as much, from myself and others.

#228 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 03:00 AM | Reply

"At the time, most of us non-right wingers here on DR were saying they'd do exactly what they ended up doing with the tax savings, which was using the cash for stock buybacks, not increasing wages or reinvesting in new plants on American soil. And we were right."

Only because that's what the equation encourages. Who'da thunk it?

#229 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 03:02 AM | Reply

OK.

Just remember, your chances of changing anyone's mind on political matters are the same as him changing yours. In fact the chances of changing his mind are probably less. You are a liberal (I think) and as such have a more open mind Rightwingers' minds are welded hut.

Me? I have better things to do with my life than futilely shoving memes in a conservative's facce and repeating talking points.

#230 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 03:15 AM | Reply

Only because that's what the equation encourages. Who'da thunk it?

#229 | Posted by Danforth

Yet some still believe the 'trickle down' nonsense that tax cuts for individuals and corporations lead to increased revenue after 40 years of absolute proof that they don't.

Republican Alternative Math ...

#231 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-08 03:18 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "I've alw"ays seem myself as a teacher"

That is very noble and deserving of much respect. But if you are going to be a teacher, be a good one. Good teachers teach others how to think, not what to think.

#232 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 03:19 AM | Reply

#230 | Posted by jakester

Hey, Jake. Glad you're joining in conversations. Stick around. :-)

Speaking for myself, I realize I'm not going to change a right winger's mind by stating facts, but at least it feels good to let them know when their opinions are little more than Kellyanne Conway "alternative facts" they drug up from fringe websites and god-knows-where else.

#233 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-08 03:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Good teachers teach others how to think, not what to think."

Good teachers also redirect when the pupil has gone off course.

#234 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 03:42 AM | Reply

Danforth said, "Good teachers also redirect when the pupil has gone off course."

No, good teachers do not redirect. You are assuming the teacher knows what is correct. They may not. That's why a good teacher teaches how, not what. In your example the teacher would teach the student how to stay on course, not redirect. Teachers are fallible, too.

Do you really want a right wing nut job determining what is off course and redirecting the student into into the path he wants? Or do you want him to teach the student how to stay on couurse?

#235 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 04:19 AM | Reply

Let's see if Yav lives up to his claim about how he responds to lies and disinformation.

I'll do as I please. Vague statements like that are dishonest in themselves, meant to reinforce your own bias. Otherwise you'd have pointed out this dishonesty or at least the poster that you're accusing in a passive-aggressive manner of being dishonest. At least I confront someone directly. Honestly, how chicken ---- of you?

I hope y'all enjoy this but I'm not interested in being lectured to by this Jakester poster. My gut says he's dishonest. He avoided and avoided answering any questions for too long.

Joined 2020/10/30

Not that you can't learn something from someone "new" but listening to the condescension while complaining about how you teach someone? Mr. 'My ---- don't stink'?

Perhaps he'll mature and become someone that can contribute. One can hope.

#236 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-08 07:49 AM | Reply

"No, good teachers do not redirect."

That's silly; of course they do.

"In your example the teacher would teach the student how to stay on course, not redirect."

Don't look now, but when someone is off-course, "staying the course" is, by definition, redirecting.

#237 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:03 AM | Reply

" Do you really want a right wing nut job determining what is off course and redirecting the student into into the path he wants? Or do you want him to teach the student how to stay on couurse?"

Well if my child is claiming "tax cuts increase revenue", I'd hope for redirection.

#238 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:06 AM | Reply

The frustrating part is say, when a poster gets corrected with irrefutable facts and figures, then pops up later to regurgitate the same lies.

#218 | Posted by Danforth

And these are the posters who get the most derision thrown their way.

Outside of a few lefty trolls who will go after anybody who disagrees with them you're not going to be called names or found yourself targeted by 90% of the posters here UNLESS you do what is described above.

#239 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:15 AM | Reply

239
IOW other posters will have to agree with you or get hounded.. Got it thanks

#240 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-08 10:17 AM | Reply

And again, why is it so important to you to make someone think like yourself?

This is a gross misrepresentation of the problem.

We're not talking about subjective disagreements like whether you prefer bolognese or marinara.

We're talking about assertions like the election was stolen. Or Biden abused his daughter by showering with her at an inappropriate age.

Statements that are not only patently false but repugnant.

#241 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:19 AM | Reply

"tax cuts increase revenue"

you realize there are circumstances in which that has been true, right?

When top brackets were really high for federal income taxes, locally, we removed an additional layer of sales tax and our sales tax revenue has improved significantly.

But of course it's been proved that lowering the top federal bracket to below 30% (or an even higher threshold) that revenues have not gone up.

So I guess it boils down to context.

#242 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:20 AM | Reply

IOW other posters will have to agree with you or get hounded.. Got it thanks

#240 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

See 241.

And see, jakester? The liars very frequently use the "you just want everybody to think like you" or "you can't stand people who disagree with you" joke all the time.

#243 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:21 AM | Reply

-Outside of a few lefty trolls who will go after anybody who disagrees with them you're not going to be called names or found yourself targeted by 90% of the posters here UNLESS you do what is described above.

Either you're wrong or your definition of "a few lefty trolls" includes a whole lot of people I doubt you think belong on that list.

Because I never do what was described above....would you like to see what I was called just yesterday?

So, you must believe Clownshack is a lefty troll.

#244 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:22 AM | Reply

"you can't stand people who disagree with you" joke"

Deflection weak and ineffective. Everyone knows the truth.

#245 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-08 10:26 AM | Reply

"you realize there are circumstances in which that has been true, right?"

Not in your lifetime. Or mine. At least not if you use methodology you'd need to pass an Econ 101 midterm. In fact, here's the concept that's based on: during Clinton's last fiscal year, the treasury collected $1 Trillion. Six years later, after the Bush tax cuts, the revenue was $1 Trillion and $2 dollars. Therefore, tax cuts increase revenue! Now...do you see where the claimant needs a little "redirection"?

"So I guess it boils down to context."

No, it boils down to whether or not the claimant is using Republican Math.

#246 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:28 AM | Reply

Is this what you advocate? Lying about an imagined threat because one day there might be one?
#219 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

That's not what I advocate.

Lies deserve to be called out. Even if it's the same old lies, being told over and over.

MadBomber claiming the Nazis represent Socialism, for example. It's better to not let that go unchallenged, no matter how many times he repeats the same lie.

#247 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 10:29 AM | Reply

You know that. I know that. But here are people who believe otherwise. You cannot change a Trumper's mind. That is the truth. And you say you want people to believe the truth. Believe that one. If you can't accept that truism, , how can you expect others to accept your truths?

#226 | Posted by jakester

Two questions.

If your this cynical, then why are you here?

If there is no point as you seem to believe, then why are you complaining about poster's conduct here?

#248 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:31 AM | Reply

i>So, you must believe Clownshack is a lefty troll.

#244 | Posted by eberly

Quite frequently, yes he is.

Along with rein and OWS and a few others.

And yes, I do include myself on that list. There are only a few repugnant posters that I go after aggressively. Bellring, family and fortfisher mostly.

Occasionally boaz when he's spouting some nonsense that he comes back with time after time after time despite being shown how wrong it is.

#249 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:33 AM | Reply

Me? I have better things to do with my life than futilely shoving memes in a conservative's facce and repeating talking points.

#230 | Posted by jakester

Then why are you here?

#250 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:35 AM | Reply

Deflection weak and ineffective. Everyone knows the truth.

#245 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

"Everyone knows..." LOL

Sorry, phester, it's not a simple disagreement most of the time.

It's Trumpers spreading blatantly false, often disgusting nonsense.

#251 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 10:36 AM | Reply

-Not in your lifetime.

Let's try again....

"locally, we removed an additional layer of sales tax and our sales tax revenue has improved significantly."

But don't many economists credit JFK's tax cuts for robust growth and a shrinking deficit...at least some? It's not all he did so no single policy shift can be isolated easily.

JFK was in your lifetime, right?

#252 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:37 AM | Reply

This was in my inbox this morning.....

messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com

since we were talking about tax rates....

#253 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:40 AM | Reply

-If your this cynical, then why are you here?

really? are you any less cynical?

Anybody else claim to be any less cynical?

#254 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:41 AM | Reply

"It's Trumpers spreading blatantly false, often disgusting nonsense.
#251 | POSTED BY JPW"

You mean like this CCP from msn news?

www.msn.com

US says nearly 19,000 kids picked up traveling alone across Mexican border in March, largest monthly number ever tallied.

#255 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-08 10:41 AM | Reply

19,000 kids picked up is not an "righty" opinion. It IS THE NEWS.

#256 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-08 10:43 AM | Reply

"locally, we removed an additional layer of sales tax and our sales tax revenue has improved significantly."

Sorry; I was talking nationally. I'm sure, if properly targeted, it could work. That said, it's never been properly targeted. In fact, every successive code (Reagan, GWB I, GWB II, Trump) got worse.

#257 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:47 AM | Reply

"JFK was in your lifetime, right?"

Barely.

But his tax code wasn't.

#258 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:48 AM | Reply

"This was in my inbox this morning.....since we were talking about tax rates..."

Revenue is down due to tax cuts?!? Color me stunned!!!

Quick primer: if top rates fall, yet the top 1% end up footing an even higher percentage of the overall tax bill, what can you conclude?

#259 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:51 AM | Reply

249

Thanks, I appreciate your honesty.

Now...can you appreciate how impossible it is to discuss something with you, twin, gal, danforth, yav, AU, etc when snoofy, speak, and clown are constantly up my butt?

Short of plonking all of them, it's nearly impossible.

They leave you guys alone so you don't see it clearly.

Tell you what...next time this happens....I'll show you what it's like. For every post I make, there are 5 trolling responses from those guys...all lies.

#260 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:54 AM | Reply

-if top rates fall, yet the top 1% end up footing an even higher percentage of the overall tax bill, what can you conclude?

that the republicans will continue to complain the rich pay too much?

#261 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 10:57 AM | Reply

"that the republicans will continue to complain the rich pay too much?"

Every now and then, I regret the system doesn't recognize my flags. This is such a case.

That, and I have coffee on my monitor.

#262 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 10:59 AM | Reply

sorry....I'm sure that wasn't the answer you were looking for.

#263 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 11:05 AM | Reply

"I'm sure that wasn't the answer you were looking for."

Well, I was looking for they control an even larger portion of wealth and income than before, since the gain was more than enough to offset for lower rates...

...but your answer is true as well!

#264 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 11:08 AM | Reply

Eberly, I can see your point of view clearly.

I once worked with about 30 women in a laboratory and when I got to know them, one of the main themes was, "I wish those feminist bitches back in the '60s and '70s would've shut the ---- up. Now both me and my husband have to work and I'd do anything to be able to stay home and take care of my kids."

Unfortunately, even though they were paid equally as men similar to a GS scale in government, they still though men had extra advantages women didn't have.

As an example, most of the men never took a day off. The women however were constantly taking personal days, full vacations, used up all their 2-week sick leave, etc. When I quit, I got 3 years back pay for not taking a day off and 6 weeks back pay for no sick days. I'd always work time-and-a-half during Thanksgiving and Christmas. My separation package was sufficient that I lived like a gentleman for a year and a half. This without unemployment. I got the vibe that I was indentured to the job.

But some of the women, three whose husbands were stationed at Ft Hood, told me they didn't have to work, they just needed something to do.

I hope this doesn't open up the floodgates for misogyny as I'm simply relaying anecdotally my experiences with femal liberation.

#265 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 11:14 AM | Reply

""I wish those feminist bitches back in the '60s and '70s would've shut the ---- up. Now both me and my husband have to work..."

Here's a hint: it wasn't because of those feminist bitches. It was the corporate oligarchs, relocating jobs for profit.

#266 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On the other hand, I understand female liberation to get away from abusive husbands. They're trapped in those types of relationships with little to no marketable skills in order to support themselves should they choose to leave.

#267 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 11:36 AM | Reply

My --------- advice to the ladies is: don't marry an ------- hoping to show him how to love and change him. It doesn't work. It just makes him more susceptible to being a tyrannical -------.

#268 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 11:37 AM | Reply

#266 Excellent point, Danforth.

I saw a multivolume documentary on JFK and Nelson Rockefeller was telling one of his proteges not to worry about women entering the workforce. More taxes for the government and more men competing for the same jobs, thus lowering their salaries. A win-win for the ultra rich.

#269 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 11:41 AM | Reply

-More taxes for the government and more men competing for the same jobs, thus lowering their salaries. A win-win for the ultra rich.

I can see they (corporations/wealthy) were in favor of it for that reason.

But.....that's not who those women were listening to.....instead, they listened to the feminists.

Kind of ironic...the corporations and wealthy got the feminists to do their bidding........unknowingly of course.

#270 | Posted by eberly at 2021-04-08 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

US says nearly 19,000 kids picked up traveling alone across Mexican border in March, largest monthly number ever tallied.

#255 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

Has that article ever been a point of conetention?

If not then it's just a non sequitur and only goes to illustrate the dishonest nature most righties around here "debate" with.

#271 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 11:51 AM | Reply

Jakester, just get used to it. Everyone here gets buggered from time-to-time. Don't leave, just develop a thick ----- in your --------.

#272 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 11:52 AM | Reply

Either that, or purchase online a rather large---------.

#273 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 12:00 PM | Reply

Or don't and go bareback if that's your thing.

#274 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 12:03 PM | Reply

Word 'round the campfire is Sniper posts with a hairbrush stuffed up his ----. So, you meet all kinds here.

#275 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 12:07 PM | Reply

DixvilleNotch was known to insert ben-wa balls in his rectum while -----------. His tell was every few minutes, he had to post brb. I'd alsays presumed it ws to take them out and fill them with hot water.

#276 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 12:11 PM | Reply

"DixvilleNotch"

a.k.a. Rex Zeitgeist. One night, drunk as a skunk, he blogged plop-by-plop of what I like to call All Things Wrecks.

#277 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 12:25 PM | Reply

" More taxes for the government and more men competing for the same jobs, thus lowering their salaries. A win-win for the ultra rich."

Yeah...they sure seem to understand the law of supply and demand when it's in their favor, don't they?

#278 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 12:26 PM | Reply

"he blogged plop-by-plop of what I like to call All Things Wrecks."

...for hours.

#279 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 12:34 PM | Reply

" If your this cynical, then why are you here?"

Same chyt different day. IE if yuo don't like it GFO.

#280 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-04-08 01:43 PM | Reply

"DixvilleNotch"

^
When the username is a whole lot more interesting than the user.

#281 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 01:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And Danforth? You complained about Danforth?
~YAV
"Yeah that one didn't make much sense to me either."
~JPW

That lowlife? I know for a fact his boss touches him at work!
#205 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Sop blaming the victim!!!

#282 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-08 02:00 PM | Reply

Same chyt different day. IE if yuo don't like it GFO I'm functionally illiterate so I'm going to make stuff up instead of addressing the real point.

#280 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

FTFY

#283 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, you must believe Clownshack is a lefty troll.
#244 | Posted by eberly

Who gives a shht.

You are obsessed with me.

By the way.

You're a fkkking righty troll.

With all your constant bullshht.

You rarely post on topic. Usually preferring to comment on other posters.

Physician, heal thyself.

#284 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-08 02:30 PM | Reply

"MadBomber claiming the Nazis represent Socialism, for example. It's better to not let that go unchallenged, no matter how many times he repeats the same lie."

Yeah...the last ting you would want is to acknowledge that Nazi was short German for "National Socialism."

It might make all those youngsters ask difficult questions.

#285 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 03:15 PM | Reply

It just baffles me why anyone would even bother defending any strain of socialism. The Soviet Socialists can claim they killed 100 million people. The National Socialists can claim that they're not as bad as the Soviet Socialists...they only killed 20 million people...

...but bottom line, who with a lick of sense would ever trust a socialist of any stripe?

If you tell me you're a socialist, you're telling me that you will kill me some day if I don't do what you tell me to do. So says history.

#286 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 03:27 PM | Reply

If you tell me you're a socialist, you're telling me that you will kill me some day if I don't do what you tell me to do. So says history.
#286 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Now there's a broad brush, if I ever saw one.

smh

#287 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-08 03:28 PM | Reply

Yeah...the last ting you would want is to acknowledge that Nazi was short German for "National Socialism."
It might make all those youngsters ask difficult questions.
#285 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

This has been explained to you repeatedly.

Do we have to go over the reasons why the Nazis took on the 'National Socialism' moniker, considering they weren't socialist at all?

#288 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-08 03:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It might make all those youngsters ask difficult questions."

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea gives rise to even more difficult question, I suppose...

#289 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 03:49 PM | Reply

Yeah...the last ting you would want is to acknowledge that Nazi was short German for "National Socialism."

Why would you insist that a shallow, ignorant historical point be respected?

BTW that doesn't mean they were socialists.

#290 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 03:51 PM | Reply

"Do we have to go over the reasons why the Nazis took on the 'National Socialism' moniker, considering they weren't socialist at all?"

Sure.

And then you can go over why the Soviet Socialists weren't socialists at all either. And that socialism is really just a benign, loving movement intended to promote social justice and equality. And that all the stories of socialism killing people, or suppressing rights, or any other bad stuff is nothing more than reactionary bourgeoise propaganda.

I'm guessing that's the narrative you prefer be played out when discussing "socialism," no?

#291 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 03:52 PM | Reply

"The Democratic People's Republic of Korea gives rise to even more difficult question, I suppose..."

One of the few socialist countries left on this planet...

#292 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 03:53 PM | Reply

"BTW that doesn't mean they were socialists."

I didn't name them.

Are you going to next claim that the Soviet Socialists weren't socialists either?

If so, where does it end?

#293 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 03:55 PM | Reply

'I didn't name them."

You just believed them.
You're the victim!

#294 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 03:57 PM | Reply

I mean, because honestly, if you're like, "German is socialist," or "the US is socialist," that's cool. But it's not socialist in the sense that the workers own the means of production. Or more likely the government owns the means of production on behalf of the workers.

And that's where the left gets into the trade space conflict, because you have anti-capitalists who do want the government to own the means of production calling themselves socialists, while at the same time having capitalists calling themselves socialists.

Figure it out, -------.

#295 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 04:00 PM | Reply

"But it's not socialist in the sense that the workers own the means of production. Or more likely the government owns the means of production on behalf of the workers."

Do Nazi Germany next!
Likewise not socialist?

#296 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 04:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you going to next claim that the Soviet Socialists weren't socialists either?
If so, where does it end?

#293 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Yawn.

The soviets didn't act like socialists either. Well, not the top at least.

True communism hasn't really been implemented because human nature means opportunists and ruthlessly selfish people will place themselves at the top to everybody else's detriment.

Also, don't be so stupid as to act as if calling yourself something while behaving entirely differently means you're still what the name says. You're smarter than that...I think?

#297 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you going to next claim that the Soviet Socialists weren't socialists either?
If so, where does it end?
#293 | POSTED BY QANONBOMBER

This is why I plonked this fkkking idiot.

He's a dumb troll without any new material.

Same shht.

On repeat.

Everyday.

#298 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-08 04:19 PM | Reply

#297

That's fair.

Just acknowledge the hundreds or millions of deaths that "socialism" has caused before unilaterally demand that someone else accept it.

...this is where having attended an econ course or two would have been of benefit to you. Or history.

But don't let none of that convince you that you're wrong. You ain't need no larnin bout this

#299 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 04:19 PM | Reply

"This is why I plonked this fkkking idiot."

Plonked me?

You're the most adorable shoe shiner I know.

Watch the socks.

#300 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 04:21 PM | Reply

This has been explained to you repeatedly.
#288 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

He's a troll.

Always has been.

Always will be.

In a year from now.

He'll be posting the same shht and someone else will explaining it to him.

#301 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-04-08 04:27 PM | Reply

Just make sure the shoes have a good shine...m'kay, princess?

#302 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 04:29 PM | Reply

I'm sorry...I feel like a phrased that as a question rather than a directive. Which probably confused you.

So just shine the ------- shoes

#303 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-04-08 04:31 PM | Reply

"Stop blaming the victim!!!"

You're right...you're right....

But in this case, I have it on good authority he LIKES IT!

#304 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 04:44 PM | Reply

#304 | Posted by Danforth

Does the victim feel violated when he's touched with the perpetrator's left hand? :-)

#305 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-08 04:46 PM | Reply

"Just acknowledge the hundreds or millions of deaths that "socialism" has caused"

How many would you say capitalism (in all its forms) has caused?

#306 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 04:46 PM | Reply

The soviets didn't act like socialists either. Well, not the top at least.

Bingo!

You had to be in the Soviet ruling class to even shop at GUM and other 'ruling class only' stores.

#307 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-04-08 04:50 PM | Reply

"Does the victim feel violated when he's touched with the perpetrator's left hand? :-)"

Um...I'll have to ask the next time the...um...(cough)...theviolation occurs.

But hey...everybody likes some strange every now and then!

#308 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-08 04:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

this is where having attended an econ course or two would have been of benefit to you. Or history.

Because I was an honors scholarship student, my undergrad university let me take a 400 level history class that focused on 1936-1945 because I have a particular interest in that period.

I know plenty about those years.

Which is why I know your bluffing when you come at us with the "but their name says socialist" nonsense.

#309 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-08 04:55 PM | Reply

Hey MadBomber.

Are you gonna tell us which definition of Socialism Nazi Germany fits, or not so much?

#310 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 04:55 PM | Reply

Bonus points if you can tell us which definition of democracy the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea fits!

#311 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 04:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy said, "And yes, there is reason to keep crying wolf, so long as the wolf remains."
#219 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Well Jakester,

Here you have a firsthand example of MadBomber and his propaganda and disinformation; specifically, calling the Nazis socialists.

Are we wrong to call him out?

Or... pinch me if I'm dreaming here... could it be that you agree with MadBomber!

#312 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 05:45 PM | Reply

Snoofy asked, "Are we wrong to call him out?"

If you've done it before, he obviously won't be persuaded otherwise. If you never have, perhaps you should.

#313 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 06:10 PM | Reply

"If you've done it before, he obviously won't be persuaded otherwise."

It's not him I'm trying to persuade. It's people who might be snowed by a con man.

I'm trying to warn his potential victims.

Should I stop?

#314 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 06:20 PM | Reply

#313 - so your idea it to let the lie be out there unchallenged? Why do you think so many showed up at the Capitol? Why did so many vote for Trump? Why do people follow Q-Anon?

Republicans built a world of lies. Pernicious lies and a network of media outlets to propagate those lies.

History can inform you how this happens and what the result can be. Strength, unity and preservation of American ideals come from not letting such lies and disinformation go unchallenged, no matter how many times it is brought up. Past Democratic Party Presidential campaigns have learned that lesson the hard way.

#315 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-08 06:28 PM | Reply

#314 Do what you want

#316 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 06:40 PM | Reply

#315 Yav asked, "so your idea it to let the lie be out there unchallenged? "

I clearly stated not. Please read my response again.

#317 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 06:42 PM | Reply

#316
Oh I see.
You're dodging the very issue you brought up.
You gonna keep up this act the whole time you're here?

#318 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy said, "You're dodging the very issue you brought up."

Actually no. I've seen your posts and I know your MO. I do not wish to engage you. I mean no offense, so please take none.

#319 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 06:49 PM | Reply

Very wise. I've seen him tear just about everyone here new --------. Because when you come down to it, few here actually know what they're talking about.

#320 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 06:51 PM | Reply

Try not to come off as a know-it-all and you'll be relatively safe.

#321 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 06:52 PM | Reply

"I do not wish to engage you."

It's too late for that.
You called me out by name.
Twice now.

#322 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 06:54 PM | Reply

Madscientist said, " I've seen him tear just about everyone here new --------. "

Perhaps I haven't seen enough of his posts. Based on the ones I've seen, he strives to wear people down with endless and often pointless questions. I don't really see that as tearing new --------. I see it as attempting to overtax the one they have.

#323 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 06:59 PM | Reply

It's time-honored Roman method of inquisition. If you'll give me a second, I'll look it up for you. It's by Quintillian.

There remains the technique of interrogation:

In this, the first thing is to know your witness.

A timid witness can be terrorized, a fool deceived,
the irascible provoked, the ambitious flattered,
the long-winded encouraged in his prolixity.

The sensible and steady witness must be either:
(1) sent away at once as hostile and obstinate,
(2) refuted by a brief intervention from the defending advocate rather than by an interrogation,
(3) if the chance presents itself, discomfited by some witty observation, or
(4) destroyed by the scandal of his offences, if anything can be brought against his way of life.

It has proved useful to show restraint in attacking honest and modest witnesses, because people who
would have fought back against an onslaught are often mollified by courtesy.

--Quintilian, (35-95 AD (CE)

#324 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 07:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I don't really see that as tearing new --------. I see it as attempting to overtax the one they have."

LOL!!!
You know us liberals, always trying to raise your taxes.
You don't seem at all like a liberal. You seem like a phony, who put "Liberal" in your account to troll the libs.

#325 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This was taken from the time-honored Socratic method of interrogation, whereby the accuser simply asks enough probing questions until the witness has no answer and thus is shown to not know what he's pontificating about.

#326 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#324 and as often pops up on Reddit, the most effective Nazi interrogator never tortured or threatened any of his, uh, subjects. They all sang like birds once he made friends with them.

(This is likewise the explanation of why white boys get taken through the Drive-Thru after they commit a murder spree.)

#327 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 07:08 PM | Reply

#326 or as one of my late great friends would say when he saw someone on the job site doing it completely wrong:

Rather than tell him he's doing it wrong, he would walk over and act like he's excited to learn a new way to do things, "Oooh, what are YOU doing!?"

#328 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 07:09 PM | Reply

#324 I like that. The last sentence says it all to me because above all, I try to be courteous. Being an imperfect human, I sometimes falter. But I remain undaunted in my attempts.

#329 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 07:11 PM | Reply

#326 I believe a wise interrogator can come to the correct assessment of the witness with a handful of questions eschewing the 'wear them down' tactic.

#330 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 07:15 PM | Reply

As the faux Latin saying goes, ". Illegitimi non carborundum".

#331 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 07:20 PM | Reply

#330 I believe that may have already happened in this thread.

#332 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-08 07:28 PM | Reply

I am not courteous. I do not suffer fools. My time is short and so is my temper.

#333 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-04-08 07:35 PM | Reply

Jakester, have you ever been deposed in a Civil case for 10 hours. This is child's play.

#334 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 07:35 PM | Reply

Madscientist asked, " have you ever been deposed in a Civil case for 10 hours. "

No, I have not. However here I have the prerogative to opt out of incessant questioning whereas a litigant in a court of law does not.

#335 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-08 08:13 PM | Reply

#335 Yeah, but you know you want to keep your sword up and your shield at bay. Some arguments here last days. Everyone's got to prove their smart and tough enough to explain their points. It's been going on for 15 years now. The title to be called "Right". You'll soon be drawn into the melee, sooner than you think.

#336 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:22 PM | Reply

Everyone's got to prove their (sic) smart

I have no idea what you are talking about.

#337 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-08 08:24 PM | Reply

LOL. QED. :>0

#338 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:30 PM | Reply

:>)

#339 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:32 PM | Reply

#338 - LOL! Excellent.

BTW - I was crushed I was left out of your post #187.

Do not elucidate. I'm fragile. Thank you.

:-)

#340 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-08 08:48 PM | Reply

Yav it's simply the fact that your English skill are better than mine. I know if I make a mistake you'll be there to remind me of the correct spelling. I've got grammar and sybtax down pretty well.

#341 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:53 PM | Reply

skills

#342 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:53 PM | Reply

syntax

#343 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:54 PM | Reply

Proofreading really isn't my forte'.

#344 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:54 PM | Reply

I hope you never change, MadScientist.
I have always thoroughly enjoyed you and am glad I get to read your posts here.

#345 | Posted by YAV at 2021-04-08 08:55 PM | Reply

Thank you, kind and noble gentleman. And I you.

#346 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-08 08:57 PM | Reply

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