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Monday, April 12, 2021

The police officer who fatally shot a Black man during a traffic stop in a Minneapolis suburb apparently intended to fire a Taser, not a handgun, the city's police chief said Monday.

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My view is that it is worse than an "accidental discharge" and that that appellation diminishes what happened.

To me, an "accidental discharge" occurs when you have a gun in your hand, you know you have a gun in your hand, but the guns goes off accidentally.

In this instance, the officer was not even aware of holding a gun.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-12 02:41 PM | Reply

And what's this crap about the driver having an 'air freshener' potentially blocking his view as the reason for stopping him? Not when the police report also stated that the window tint prevented them from seeing if there were other people in the car. First off, who cares if there were other people the car in the first place. And if the window tint was that dark, then how in the heck did they see the 'air freshener' hanging from the rear-view mirror? I can't help but think that this was just another case of profiling and the police were just flexing their muscles during the Derek Chauvin trial.

OCU

#2 | Posted by OCUser at 2021-04-12 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is this anything like, "The dog ate my handgun!"?

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2021-04-12 02:45 PM | Reply

Bull ----. There's no way an officer could have mistaken a gun for a taser.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-04-12 02:53 PM | Reply

Negligent homicide

#5 | Posted by qcp at 2021-04-12 03:27 PM | Reply

#4

Why? This is not the first time and likely not the last.

www.aele.org

#6 | Posted by et_al at 2021-04-12 03:28 PM | Reply

Police: "Officer was intending to draw his broadsword, and challenge the knavish miscreant to Trial By Combat. But instead he accidentally shot and killed him."

#7 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2021-04-12 03:37 PM | Reply

Something similar happened in Chicago. Police officer chasing a suspect fired what she thought was her taser, but was actually her side arm, shooting the man running away in the back, killing him.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-12 03:40 PM | Reply

Why? This is not the first time and likely not the last.

It just sounds like a weak excuse as side arms are always on your strong side. Tasers are on your weak side and require a cross draw.

Or so it seems. Maybe I'm wrong.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2021-04-12 04:05 PM | Reply

This will follow him psychologically for the rest of his life. He won't be able to go to bed without seeing the bloody corpse he created. I hope it haunts him until he dies.

#10 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-12 04:09 PM | Reply

He/him is a she/her

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-04-12 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I don't think incompetence is really an excuse when you have a life-or-death job.
Air Traffic Controller: Sorry those planes crashed, I thought I was telling them to go left, I meant right, oopsie.

#12 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-04-12 05:08 PM | Reply

Thanks for the correction Scruffy-looking Nerfherder. I was shooting from the hip when I wrote that.

#13 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-12 05:14 PM | Reply

Only with Black people.

#14 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-04-12 05:19 PM | Reply

"I was telling them to go left, I meant right"

Wait. Was that stage right? Or your right? And left isn't right...right?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-12 05:21 PM | Reply

So any police office who carries a taser gets to shoot and kill anyone, and get away with it, at least as far as criminal charges, by yelling "taser" before killing the person?
Sorry, I just am not buying her excuse.

#16 | Posted by Hughmass at 2021-04-12 06:07 PM | Reply

@#16 ... So any police office who carries a taser gets to shoot and kill anyone, and get away with it, at least as far as criminal charges, by yelling "taser" before killing the person? ...

That view has crossed my mind...


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-12 07:50 PM | Reply

Watching the video, it sounds like she's yelling "taser! taser! taser!" in the same way a person would yell "pew! pew! pew!"

#18 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-04-12 09:12 PM | Reply

Maybe I'm wrong.

#9 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-04-12 04:05 PM | REPLY | FLAG

9+ outta 10 times.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-12 09:16 PM | Reply

Wait. Was that stage right? Or your right? And left isn't right...right?

#15 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-04-12 05:21 PM | REPLY

It was stage f-RIGHT.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-12 09:18 PM | Reply

Or was it alt-left / alt-right?

So many alt-facts to deal with these days.

#21 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-04-12 09:27 PM | Reply

"It was stage f-RIGHT."

No; your right, so stage f-LEFT.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-12 10:34 PM | Reply

Right?

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-04-12 10:35 PM | Reply

Ban white cops from arresting black people.

Restaff as needed.

#24 | Posted by bored at 2021-04-12 11:42 PM | Reply

He/him is a she/her
#11 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER AT 2021-04-12 04:19 PM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY 1

SSeriously, SSentinel...#11 was NewSSworthy?

You gone and done stuck your foot in it now. Ima open a can of whoop-ass so fetid that your olfactory bulb will explode at the mere stench of it.

You can make book on that.

Good day.

#25 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-04-13 02:59 AM | Reply

"Ban white cops from arresting black people.
Restaff as needed."

Sounds like you're advocating segregation. Of course, that won't solve the problem. But hey, who cares about solving the problem, when it's more "fun" to turn it into racial issue?

#26 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-04-13 06:40 AM | Reply

#25, good luck with that. I slipped some of these in your drink when you weren't looking: www.spectrumstore.sg

#27 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-04-13 06:43 AM | Reply

when it's more "fun" to turn it into racial issue?

#26 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

No need to "turn it".

It was racist thru and thru. All the way thru.

They had their 15 minutes of fun. And one even got fired so it must have been some really good fun! And now he can wear the incident like a badge of Trumptilian armor to shield of him from the reality of what he has done.

It unfortunately for him he is also getting sued. So he gets to relive it over and over in court. Then we will get to see what it gets turned into. I hope he gets the pants and that little smirk sued right off of him.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-04-13 10:53 AM | Reply

not buying it...but even so, fired due to negligence and/or incompetence...

#29 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-04-13 11:12 AM | Reply

When you think every problem looks like a nail, you believe the only tool you own is a hammer.

#30 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-04-13 11:56 AM | Reply

Our criminal justice system throughout the nation is designed to justify the detention, arrest, use of force and long term incarceration of black people. The more you know about our system the more obvious it becomes.

#31 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-04-13 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why? This is not the first time and likely not the last.
It just sounds like a weak excuse as side arms are always on your strong side. Tasers are on your weak side and require a cross draw.
Or so it seems. Maybe I'm wrong.

#9 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-04-12 04:05 PM |

When I was in law enforcement we taught carrying the taser on the non-gun side, and training to use the non-gun hand for the taser, to prevent this sort of muscle memory stress response. RSTYBEACH11 mentioned the Chicago incident, there was also the BART incident a dozen years ago, where officers thought they were deploying a taser but were in fact firing the sidearm. Regarding yelling "Taser Taser Taser", that's to let the other officers know the taser is being deployed. The "pop" of the taser is not as loud as a gunshot, but combined with the flash, particularly at night, it can cause a reflexive action. I recall an incident in Tucson where one officer deployed the taser, another officer with a firearm drawn saw the flash, heard the pop, and fired in reflex. From what I've read in this incident, I don't believe the Taser should even have been deployed. It appears the vehicle was already in motion. First, there's not sufficient target area for an effective Taser hit through the car window. Second, if you do effectively Taser the driver, who's got their foot on the brake and hands on the wheel? This deployment would have been against my former agency's policy.

#32 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2021-04-13 01:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Brooklyn Center officer who shot Daunte Wright resigns
www.startribune.com

...Kimberly Potter, the Brooklyn Center police officer who fatally shot 20-year-old Daunte Wright during a traffic stop Sunday, has resigned from the force after 26 years.

In a letter to city officials Tuesday, Potter wrote that she was resigning effective immediately....


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-13 01:35 PM | Reply

The more you know about our system the more obvious it becomes.
#31 | POSTED BY MODER8

This has been my harsh reality for the past decade.

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-13 01:46 PM | Reply

#32 | POSTED BY EL_BUSCADOR

Great context, thanks for laying that out.

I believe the sound of the gun shot surprised her enough that she let go of the gun, dropping it in the car as it sped away. Her immediate reaction with palms to the sky and "I shot him!" proves to me she was surprised that she was holding her gun and not her taser.

A terrible accident that took place at probably the worst time possible for Minnesota.

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-04-13 01:49 PM | Reply

Update...

Brooklyn Center police chief, officer who shot Daunte Wright resign
www.startribune.com

...Brooklyn Center police Chief Tim Gannon and Kimberly Potter, the police officer who fatally shot Daunte Wright during a traffic stop Sunday, have both resigned from the department.

Mayor Mike Elliott announced the chief's resignation during a news conference at City Hall Tuesday afternoon....


#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-04-13 02:03 PM | Reply

I believe the sound of the gun shot surprised her enough that she let go of the gun, dropping it in the car as it sped away. Her immediate reaction with palms to the sky and "I shot him!" proves to me she was surprised that she was holding her gun and not her taser.

And at that moment, she was not "fit for duty". One might wonder why.

#37 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2021-04-13 02:37 PM | Reply

Why are these shootings only a big deal when it happens to a black person?

#38 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-04-13 09:55 PM | Reply

Why are these shootings only a big deal when it happens to a black person?

You have a long list of white cops shooting white people in questionable circumstances?

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-04-13 10:11 PM | Reply

"Why are these shootings only a big deal when it happens to a black person?"

^
Solid first post from a new account.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-13 10:40 PM | Reply

I am glad he resigned. The world does not need cops who cannot differentiate between a firearm and a taser. Now lock him up for life.

#41 | Posted by jakester at 2021-04-14 11:25 AM | Reply

New Account Snoofy...not hardly. But if you don't have a legitimate answer I guess an insult is the best you can do.

Back to the topic...what about Linden Cameron, 13 year old autistic boy shot in the back 11 times. This was Sept 2020 when the outrage of police brutality was still burning hot after a summer of unrest.

What about Zack Hammond, 19 shot in similar circumstances to Mr Wright except the intentionally drew his weapon and shot Zack. It took almost a year to get video released and the cop was never charged or reprimanded in any way.

And Mr Hammond did not have any violent felony charges against him like Mr. wright who also has a warrant for his arrest after having his bind revoked for failing to meet the conditions of his release.

Somebody already mentioned Daniel Shaver..which was one of the worst cases of police brutality ever caught on camera. And again no one was charged and the cop who shot him was allowed to retire early with a pension due to PSTD.

You can also check out Duncan Kemp who also died in very similar circumstances as another celebrated shooting. See if you can figure out which one, and then check out the date.

#42 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-04-14 12:28 PM | Reply

*Duncan Lemp...effin spell check.

#43 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-04-14 12:30 PM | Reply

Checkmate @ Snoofy

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-14 01:51 PM | Reply

#42 The police shoot and kill someone nearly every day in America. Usually, 2 or 3 a day.

They're not all gonna be black men... just disproportionately so.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-14 01:58 PM | Reply

Okay Snoofy so go back and address my original question that you dismissed.

The examples I gave were to show the outrageous behavior of police towards white suspects...two of them specifically because of the striking similarity to the more well situations involving black victims.

The media didn't cover them and all these outraged Americans didn't protest or riot...they didn't give a s#!t.

And if you consider all the circumstances of the individual situations you find that unarmed whites are more likely to be shot than unarmed blacks....So why are only the shooting of black folks sparking all this protest and outrage?

It can't be about police brutality.

#46 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-04-14 02:27 PM | Reply

"And if you consider all the circumstances of the individual situations you find that unarmed whites are more likely to be shot than unarmed blacks"

They are?

Also, "consider all the circumstances of the individual situations" sounds like a roundabout way of saying cherry picking.

Regardless, in this case, it was an unarmed black man gunned down by police.

Feel free to create threads about whites being gunned down by police, if you think the issue requires greater visibility.

My impression is most people know that whites are not immune.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-14 02:33 PM | Reply

That being said, my opinion is that what has happened over the past 40 years is that the police have realized that the police can treat us all like n****** now. Even white people.

That's equality, right?

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-14 02:40 PM | Reply

Feel free to create threads about whites being gunned down by police, if you think the issue requires greater visibility.

#47 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-04-14 02:33 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

His post is very relevant to the thread. Problem is, you cot called on our BS again and dont have a clear answer for the citations provided to you. So, you send him packing with the answer "go create another thread" - very weak.

#49 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-14 06:07 PM | Reply

So I'll answer SCOTTE's original question for Snoofy.

The answer is that, there's no emotional/theatrical/drama value in dead white people killed by police.

BTW, I've seen some of Snoofy's posts. Snoofy cares way less about people of color than he/she lets on.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-14 06:11 PM | Reply

"Snoofy cares way less about people of color than he/she lets on."

WTF
Why you gotta bring race into it.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-14 08:11 PM | Reply

"The answer is that, there's no emotional/theatrical/drama value in dead white people killed by police."

I can't help it if white people don't get uppity when white people get gunned down by police, like black people do when black people get gunned down by police.

Though, I'm pretty sure some big reasons for the lack of outcry are:
1. lower incidence on a per-capita basis.
2. lots of white people are in favor of people getting gunned down by police, so there's nothing to complain about. See Also #40.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-14 08:17 PM | Reply

"His post is very relevant to the thread."

His post is pure Whataboutism.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-04-14 08:18 PM | Reply

Why you gotta bring race into it.

#51 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-04-14 08:11 PM

I didn't, you did.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-14 08:29 PM | Reply

His post is pure Whataboutism.

#53 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-04-14 08:18 PM | REPLY

And, you've never been guilty of that before?

#55 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-04-14 08:29 PM | Reply

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