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Tuesday, May 04, 2021

Lisa Shacket said she needed to do it. Despite the Arizona Democratic Party urging members not to participate in state Senate Republicans' audit of the 2020 presidential vote, Shacket went ahead and volunteered to find out what would happen to her ballot.

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They can do what they want Biden still got sworn in and will remain President for years to come.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2021-05-03 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Biden still got sworn in and will remain President for years to come.

#1 | POSTED BY TOR

That is beside the point. The reason this is an issue is because they are going to use the results to make changes to how we are allowed to vote. They can pretend that the results go the way they want in order to enact draconian laws reducing voter turnout... And there will be millions of Americans that blindly believe what they are told, especially if it fits their narrative.

#2 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2021-05-03 04:59 PM | Reply

the counting is being so badly done it will be laughed out of court.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2021-05-03 05:33 PM | Reply

The laws restricting voting won't be laughed out of court so easily.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-03 05:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If the court cases turns out badly for the GOP there is no grounds on which they can change laws.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2021-05-03 05:56 PM | Reply

Tor, that's not how making laws works.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-03 07:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"On Tuesday, her second day as an observer, the lawyer for the audit leader, a Florida-based company called Cyber Ninjas, was telling a judge about the "monumental race against time" to hand count all 2.1 million general election ballots in Maricopa County."

Trying to beat a deadline that passed last year... I suppose one could call that a monumental race against time. Seems practically unwinnable.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-03 07:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Political theater.

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-05-03 08:31 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Political theater. ...

For now, yes, political theater.

However, depending upon what is found, the political theater could have a large and lasting effect upon the voting process.

My main concern with this "audit" is: what exactly are they looking for, i.e., why are they doing the audit?

Are they looking to see how the voting actually went? Or are they looking for reasons to say there was election fraud?

The reason I ask is that the Cyber Ninjas, in the manner they have been acting, seem determined to find what they are looking for, even if it may not be present.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-05-04 10:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It is a deliberate and probably somewhat successful attempt to undermine the system.

#10 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-05-04 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Political theater perhaps, but with a very nefarious purpose. Already 70% of Republicons believe that President Biden's win was illegitimate. That's 70% of the voters of one of our two major parties. The other 30% know the truth or are unsure. Fortunately the total number of voters who identify as GQP is shrinking.

Let's say Cyber Ninjas announces what we expect is their predetermined conclusion that Dotard actually won AZ. They have stated in court that they are being sought by the GQP in other closely contested states to do the same thing. Even if President Biden remains in the WH, the GQP further errodes faith in democracy, and 70% becomes 85-90%.

A large portion of GQP voters, too stupid or brainwashed to understand how democracy works, and as we can see they will only accept elections when they approve of the outcome, so they actually believe in autocratic rule. The state GQP parties are passing new draconian voting laws, of which the media has rightly focused on racist restrictions on black and brown voting, but that's top cover for the really evil portions of this new legislation that allows for partisan counting of ballots or completely ignoring election outcomes with which they disagree, thus installing GQP rule for life.

#11 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-05-04 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

However, depending upon what is found, the political theater could have a large and lasting effect upon the voting process.
#9 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Why does it matter what they find? They will make it up anyway and idiot Republicans will believe it.

They gave workers the same color markers/pens that were used to mark ballots in the first place. There appears to be little oversight. Workers had no idea UV light would damage the ballots but were using it. It's a -----------.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-05-04 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Blue pens. Not red.

The insurrection continues.

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-05-04 06:01 PM | Reply

Horrified?...horrified that cheating may be discovered is my opinion.

#14 | Posted by MSgt at 2021-05-04 07:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Yo. So the Republicans that did 3 audits and recounts and certified the election were cheating so Trump would lose?

Is that what you're going with?

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2021-05-04 07:49 PM | Reply

Republicans were the only election cheats.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2021-05-04 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Horrified?...horrified that cheating may be discovered is my opinion.

#14 | POSTED BY MSGT

You misspelled made up.

You morons believe a baseless lie always on the promise of impending evidence.

Then when they transparently manufacture it you act as if it's legit.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2021-05-04 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Posted by MSgt

This is the sort of mass stupidity that the rational world is up against. The odds do not look good.

#18 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-05-04 09:00 PM | Reply

Horrified?...horrified that cheating may be discovered is my opinion.
#14 | POSTED BY MSGT

I find it hard to believe you're dumb enough to fall for The Big Lie.

I know Eberly isn't that dumb. You really think you're not as smart as Eberly?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-04 09:03 PM | Reply

And why are they even looking for watermarks? The company that supplied the paper used for the Arizona ballots has already informed the people running the 'audit' that there were NO watermarks, period.

And what's this crap about looking for folds? The ballots which were mailed in, they came with an envelope which required that the ballots had to be folded in half before they could be mailed. Some will have been folded and some will not have been. Therefore, whether a ballot was folded or not is irrelevant. The only thing that can be concluded from that is that a folded ballot was probably mailed and an unfolded ballot was not.

OCU

#20 | Posted by OCUser at 2021-05-04 09:18 PM | Reply

Republicans simply don't believe in democracy.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-04 09:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And why are they even looking for watermarks? The company that supplied the paper used for the Arizona ballots has already informed the people running the 'audit' that there were NO watermarks, period.

Ok, so this is really amazing. Are you ready for the Right-wing/QAnon conspiracy on why and how? This is the story being pushed by Right-wing loons:

  1. Trump and his loyalists inserted ballots that are watermarked.
  2. This was done secretly.
  3. For the election to be legitimate, those ballots must show up.
  4. If they do not show up then that's proof that the ballots were switched.

  • Regarding the folds they are operating under the "assumption" (requirement, actually) that the vast majority of ballots were mailed in and folded in advance by a machine. If the ballot is not folded that's a questionable ballot. No, they have no idea how many ballots are mailed in or in person. If the ballot folds aren't just right then that has to mean that isn't a legitimate ballot.

    It's all --------. It's crap. It is so beyond ridiculous it needs a new word to describe what it is.

  • #22 | Posted by YAV at 2021-05-04 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    It's trumpidiculous.

    #23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-05-04 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    Should Arizona senators be getting involved and bringing down the feds on this matter?

    #24 | Posted by Tor at 2021-05-04 10:26 PM | Reply

    If someone from the Republican party inserted watermarked ballots into the system, how would this not be considered tampering? If this is true, they could have just as easily inserted forgeries that might not have even included all of the candidates that appeared on a legitimate ballot.

    OCU

    #25 | Posted by OCUser at 2021-05-05 12:45 AM | Reply

    such is the twisted rationalization in the world of conspiracy.

    #26 | Posted by YAV at 2021-05-05 07:58 AM | Reply

    Trump and his loyalists inserted ballots that are watermarked.

    So they forged or tampered with and voted with unofficial ballots?

    Wouldn't their appearance be actual evidence of voter fraud/misconduct?

    #27 | Posted by jpw at 2021-05-05 10:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    Should Arizona senators be getting involved and bringing down the feds on this matter?

    #24 | POSTED BY TOR

    The feds have no jurisdiction over elections. Those are left to the states.

    #28 | Posted by jpw at 2021-05-05 10:19 AM | Reply

    I'm pretty sure that if Senator stay there needs to be an investigation in their home state that the FBI gets interested very quickly

    #29 | Posted by Tor at 2021-05-05 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    Why are you sure of that, Tor?
    Why are you so intent on insisting no harm could possibly come from what the GOP is doing?

    #30 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-05 04:18 PM | Reply

    Horrified?...horrified that cheating may be discovered is my opinion.

    #14 | Posted by MSgt

    From the people who beleive in jewish space lasers...comes...totally real proof that biden cheated!

    #31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-05-05 09:35 PM | Reply

    Why are they getting stupider now that Trump is out of office?

    Anyone???

    #32 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-05 09:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    It now appears that the group, these 'Cyber Ninjas', who have been hired by the Republican members of the Arizona state Senate to 'audit' the Maricopa County ballots, they're now looking for the evidence of Bamboo. YES, BAMBOO! It seems that the latest conspiracy theory is that if they can detect the presence of Bamboo on the paper ballots, that this would prove that the ballots actually came from China, or at least from somewhere in Asia. And this is what Trump is hanging all his hopes on, that somehow these 'ninjas' are going to find irrefutable evidence that the 84+ million votes that Biden got were somehow fraudulently cast. Oh, and one of the other ideas is that these 'ninjas' will soon start to conduct door-to-door interviews to determine if people actually voted and if so, who did they vote for because they want to use this information to double-check their findings. Of course, one has to ask, how could they do that? There is no way to know who voted for who so what is there to check? BTW, this idea that they may soon start these 'interviews' is what has led, at least in part, to the next bit of breaking news.

    The US DOJ has tonight notified the people conducting the 'audit' that they may be in violation of federal voting laws as ballots are supposed to remain in the possession of state election officials for a certain amount of time. By surrendering them to the 'ninjas', they may be in violation of these federal laws. It's also rumored that at the end of the day, when the 'auditing' is halted, that computer are left logged-in and stacks of ballots are left on tables. Also, the management group running the arena where this is taking place has informed the people conducting the 'audit' that they have to be out of there by May 16th as there are events that have already been booked who will need the space starting on that date. So far, they've 'audited' less than 10% of the ballots. If they're forced to pack-up and move to another venue and basically start over, that's just another opportunity for something to go wrong which could put these original ballots further at risk.

    And one other thing, if these people really are planning on going out door-to-door interviewing voters, this could be seen as voter intimidation, and if the people being contacted are members of a minority group, it could also be a violation of federal civil rights laws.

    OCU

    #33 | Posted by OCUser at 2021-05-06 12:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    #33 | Posted by OCUser

    Just when we thought they couldn't come up with anything crazier ... Wow!

    #34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-05-06 04:26 AM | Reply

    "Bamboo. YES, BAMBOO!"

    Species of bamboo are native to Texas. I imagine that Austin remains filthy with it.

    #35 | Posted by Zed at 2021-05-06 07:30 AM | Reply

    Yes, our son, who lives outside of Houston, has Bamboo all along the edge of his backyard.

    OCU

    #36 | Posted by OCUser at 2021-05-06 11:16 AM | Reply

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