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Thursday, May 06, 2021

The Texas Senate has voted to advance a bill that will allow people to carry handguns in the state without a license, setting up the state to be the largest in the country to allow permitless carry.

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"The legislation passed by an 18-13 margin along party lines Wednesday evening. The bill would allow people 21 and older who can already legally own a gun to carry a handgun in public without the license, safety course and background check current law requires.

Democrats panned the bill as dangerous, warning that criminals would slip through the cracks and end up carrying guns if they do not have to go through the licensing process. The Department of Public Safety denied 2,422 license to carry applicants last year, with the majority of denials stemming from past criminal convictions.

"More criminals are going to walk around with guns openly, I promise you," state Sen. Roland Gutierrez (D) said during floor debate, according to The Dallas Morning News. "More vigilantes are going to rise up."

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Couple of thousand criminals denied licences last year are cheering, along with "law and order" -------.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2021-05-06 02:38 PM | Reply

"And YOU get a gun! And You! and You! and You!!!"

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-05-06 06:02 PM | Reply

Even more reason for police to think a cell phone is a gun.

Thanks, Second Amendment!

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-06 06:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"law and order" -------. Repubs

(i may have misspelled it the first time)

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2021-05-06 06:21 PM | Reply

I don't even know what to say. Srsly

#5 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-05-06 06:50 PM | Reply

So Mad, do you know, will this be open carry?

When I was growing up in Texas, any thing more than about a 5 inch pocket knife was illegal to carry.

Ck this out... even the Old West had gun regs....

Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West
Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business

It's October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, and Arizona is not yet a state. The O.K. Corral is quiet, and it's had an unremarkable existence for the two years it's been standing"although it's about to become famous.

Marshall Virgil Earp, having deputized his brothers Wyatt and Morgan and his pal Doc Holliday, is having a gun control problem. Long-running tensions between the lawmen and a faction of cowboys " represented this morning by Billy Claiborne, the Clanton brothers, and the McLaury brothers " will come to a head over Tombstone's gun law.

The laws of Tombstone at the time required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman's office. (Residents of many famed cattle towns, such as Dodge City, Abilene, and Deadwood, had similar restrictions.)

The "Old West" conjures up all sorts of imagery, but broadly, the term is used to evoke life among the crusty prospectors, threadbare gold panners, madams of brothels, and six-shooter-packing cowboys in small frontier towns " such as Tombstone, Deadwood, Dodge City, or Abilene, to name a few.

One other thing these cities had in common: strict gun control laws.

"Tombstone had much more restrictive laws on carrying guns in public in the 1880s than it has today," says Adam Winkler, a professor and specialist in American constitutional law at UCLA School of Law.

"Today, you're allowed to carry a gun without a license or permit on Tombstone streets. Back in the 1880s, you weren't." Same goes for most of the New West, to varying degrees, in the once-rowdy frontier towns of Nevada, Kansas, Montana, and South Dakota.

excerpts, more here:

www.smithsonianmag.com

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2021-05-06 07:54 PM | Reply

I believe you, Corky. It's just so unthinkable that any Tom's Harry Dick can be packing a Ruger LCP in his pocket. This will make cops go even more ape when approaching someone.

#7 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-05-06 09:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We've had unlicensed open/concealed carry in AZ for years. The desert isn't turning red with blood.

#8 | Posted by willowby at 2021-05-06 11:11 PM | Reply

#8

It's already orange with stupid.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2021-05-07 09:38 AM | Reply

This will be great for white people. For those with darker skin, this law shall not apply.

Once again, repeat after me: open carry is NOT for black/brown/Hispanic/Oriental people. The sheriffs and police forces in Harris, Dallas, Bexar, Travis, and other Texas counties with large populations will never tolerate dark-skinned folks from exercising their right to bear arms...

#10 | Posted by catdog at 2021-05-07 09:52 AM | Reply

Willoby, this isn't meant to be a "gotcha", but Arizona ain't Texas. We're a friendly state unless you piss someone off, then out come the guns, knives, fists, baseball bats, etc.

This entire state needs to have lithium carbonate put in the water supply.

#11 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-05-07 11:13 AM | Reply

#10,

I dont think you can get anymore racist than this post.

And I know, the poster would LOVE if something like this were actually the law. But it's an example of a not going to happen racist thing, that racists like the poster are trying to make happen. Like a Jesse Smollet type thing.

Get over it, America really isnt that racist anymore. But you keep the racism alive..

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2021-05-07 01:23 PM | Reply

- America really isnt that racist anymore

26 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

www.businessinsider.com

Saying that America is racist is not a radical statement
May 2, 2021

www.seattletimes.com

Americans see disadvantages for blacks and Hispanics in the U.S. A majority of all adults (56%) say being black hurts people's ability to get ahead at least a little, and 51% say the same about being Hispanic. In contrast, 59% say being white helps people's ability to get ahead. Views about the impact of being Asian or Native American are more mixed

www.pewresearch.org

"People often define racism as disliking or mistreating others on the basis of race. That definition is wrong," said Roberts, who directs the Social Concepts Lab, part of the psychology department, in the School of Humanities and Sciences.

"Racism is a system of advantage based on race. It is a hierarchy. It is a pandemic. Racism is so deeply embedded within U.S. minds and U.S. society that it is virtually impossible to escape."

news.stanford.edu

You couldn't be more wrong, Boaz.... well, you could, but you'll have to try a lot harder.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2021-05-07 03:04 PM | Reply

Eh, I dont agree Corky.

Alot of what happens to the black community is culture based and self inflicted. We could fix alot of "racism" ourselves.

But you wont agree with that, liberals never do.

#14 | Posted by boaz at 2021-05-07 03:12 PM | Reply

Apparently most Americans don't agree with you... yet again.

But hey, blaming the victims is a long-held rwinger trait.

Systemic racism...

"Racism is a system of advantage based on race. It is a hierarchy. It is a pandemic. Racism is so deeply embedded within U.S. minds and U.S. society that it is virtually impossible to escape."

The above is not something the victims can fix by themselves.... what you are doing is what people who blame a woman that is raped because she wore a short skirt do.

It's idiocy.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2021-05-07 03:18 PM | Reply

We could fix alot of "racism" ourselves.

You can circumvent racism.

You can't fix it.

Black people can proceed in a way where they build a strong community and grow wealthy and prosperous without white people.

But then racists can come blow up the neighborhood and kill all the black people there.

Like Tulsa, Oklahoma. Or Philadelphia. Or any of the other times where racists made sure blacks knew their place was under their foot.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-05-07 04:13 PM | Reply

Being in the military, Boaz has been indoctrinated to look at the world through a largely white supremacist and imperialist lens.

He might be truly convinced he knows what is best for his fellow blacks, but in reality he is just a black man who has been unknowingly convinced what is best for whites.

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-05-07 04:29 PM | Reply

Yeehaw!!!

#18 | Posted by Xzapno_Mapcase at 2021-05-07 05:11 PM | Reply

"We could fix alot of "racism" ourselves."

You could? Got any examples?
Start all the way back in 1619 if it helps.
When did blacks fix racism?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-05-07 05:42 PM | Reply

You could? Got any examples?

You're not seeing the big picture.

Black people could fix racism by themselves.

But liberals won't let them.

Liberals keep reminding black Americans about racism in order to keep them on the Democratic plantation.

If black people could just stop thinking about racism, blaming white people, and focused on getting educations and jobs.

There wouldn't be any racism.

It's all liberals and black people keeping racism alive.

It's black peoples fault there's racism.

There's your answer.

A mentality of blaming the person afflicted by the system of continuing the system.

Blaming those who reveal the flaws as being the problem.

If we all just knew our place.

Life would be simpler for everyone.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-05-07 05:56 PM | Reply

Is that a pistol in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

#21 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-05-07 07:30 PM | Reply

No, cops won't suddenly start shooting white people in Texas (unless they are under the influence and draw their weapon on the police).
But what will happen, is more vigilante whites will draw their guns against more Latinos and blacks in the state...virtually guaranteed...

#22 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-05-07 11:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#22
This is part of the basis of my original comment. Whether they be white folks or law enforcement, neither will accept nor tolerate dark skinned folks acting under the law by openly carrying firearms while in Texas. A black man with a .38 on his hip in DeSoto, Texas will fare worse than did (insert name of any African American male murdered on the streets of this country), and die much faster too. Simply because of the color of his skin...

#23 | Posted by catdog at 2021-05-08 04:52 PM | Reply

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