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Friday, May 07, 2021

Wind turbines are popular -- in theory. Gallup data show about 70% of Americans want "more emphasis" on wind energy. But where, exactly, will all those turbines be built?

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Down with NIMBY, up with YIMBY

#1 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-05-07 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here in the midwest it's another revenue stream for a lot of farmers. Driving through Illinois to visit Chicago or Indy I see a lot of them. I think they are calming to watch and they break up the monotony of a boring drive through a bunch of flat land.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-05-07 10:31 AM | Reply

-That question matters because local governments across the country are rejecting wind energy projects.

I live in 1 of those localities. A county commissioner listened to a very vocal group who lived in the area where the wind farm was being proposed to go...and none of them owned the land where the turbines were going to be located. He voted no and it required a unanimous vote from all 3 commissioners.

But that commissioner was ousted and replaced with someone who will vote for it next time.

To be honest, I wouldn't want to live next to one of those unless I was cashing in on the $$$ for the lease payments. I have some clients who bank over 6 figures a year from those.

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2021-05-07 10:47 AM | Reply

Wind turbines are now 30% more efficient than coal where you got good wind. And the next generation ones - coming out right now - are like a half-mile tall and move really slowly. I think they would make nice tourist attractions. I'd put some lights on the blade tips because it can get damn dark out in the ------- in the right conditions, like 'can't see your hand in front of your face' dark, and it's nice to have distant light sources to orient on.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-05-07 11:44 AM | Reply

* I can't believe Freudianed that so bad. Anyway, solar is still over twice as expensive as coal, but that's changing real quick. And multiple companies have Son of Superbattery in production - Japan started a few months ago. That means grid storage.

#5 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-05-07 11:49 AM | Reply

I want one so damned bad. Eff those stupid shadow flicker effect bozos.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-05-07 12:05 PM | Reply

There's a problem with "shadow flicker" as the slowly rotating blades of a wind turbine cast shadows in residential areas near the turbines.

Here's a video I found in a quick search. This case is not too bad, compared to other videos I've seen (use the search engine of your preference and search for "shadow flicker" videos)...

www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-05-07 12:06 PM | Reply

Wow! Flicker effect is beautiful! I want to see that with every sunrise and sunset. And in all weather.

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-05-07 12:16 PM | Reply

How viable are small models for home use?

I've read a bit on them and have wondered whether smaller, individual platforms that feed excess into the grid wouldn't be a better option than giant farms of large turbines visible for miles.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2021-05-07 01:12 PM | Reply

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I don't know. I have a large farm with a turbine they use to power their grain complex and a large grain bunker to maintain aeration. It's smaller than the typical commercial wind farms you see. Doesn't cause anybody any "flicker" kind of problem. But the power need is pretty high to justify that.

I also have a commercial account with their own large commercial sized turbine to power a large flour mill.

It's different when it's just 1 by itself. Not the eyesore nor the flicker problem that's complained about.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2021-05-07 02:32 PM | Reply

Funny how republicans have been starting at ugly high voltage electrical transmission lines their whole lives but they didn't bug them when they were transmitting fossil fuel power.

Suddenly they see windmills and it's "they burn my EYES!!!"

No, they're just a reminder that the world is progressing despite their failed efforts to stop it. That's what hurts conservatives.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-05-07 03:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#11 They are healed by drinking the tears of liberals though.

It's like weird vicious cycle.

#12 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-05-07 03:39 PM | Reply

It's like weird vicious cycle.

#12 | Posted by HeliumRat

No it's a weird vicious party that stands for nothing except upsetting decent people.

The trump troll party is all you are.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-05-07 04:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 Yikes that would spoil a tranquil rural setting, but a high wind location does that as well.

#14 | Posted by bored at 2021-05-07 04:51 PM | Reply

Speaks lol, the article is about the problem in blue states mostly. Tons of windmills in Texas, under Abbott so they aren't winterized but they do exist.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-05-07 04:52 PM | Reply

Speaks lol, the article is about the problem in blue states mostly. Tons of windmills in Texas, under Abbott so they aren't winterized but they do exist.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Yeah the RED AREAS of blue states. They're not putting them into cities duh.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-05-07 05:09 PM | Reply

Yesterday, I happened to be in the hospital getting an exploratory heart catheterization and one of the nurses said that she's getting 6 wind turbines on her land at $20,000 a pop per year. For a contract of sixty years.

I also forgot how wonderful Valium, Midazolam, and Fentanyl was. Especially since she was leaning her full weight against my side. ------- and all.

#17 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-05-07 07:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

------- and all, according to the nooner you'll have to be more specific,lol.

#18 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-05-07 07:49 PM | Reply

Yeah the RED AREAS of blue states. They're not putting them into cities duh.

#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-05-07 05:09 PM | FLAG:

They're not putting them in any Blue areas of Blue states. You'll ruin the fine sailing grounds among other issues.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-05-07 07:52 PM | Reply

Oh, yeah, they do shave your crotch in case they have to go in through the femoral artery. Too bad it was a dude that did it. No more red Brillo pad for Mad. :>(

#20 | Posted by madscientist at 2021-05-07 07:57 PM | Reply

Those who oppose wind mills need to tell us all how beautiful smoke stacks spewing coal smoke would be so much more attractive. People use electricity. We have to get it from somewhere. Solar and wind are the cleanest methods we have and don't get up on your nuclear high horse until you have a viable method of disposing of the spent fuel rods. If you didn't learn anything from Fukushima then you simply are incapable of learning.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2021-05-08 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most folks in Okiehomie like their windmills, because of the fees paid to landowners and the cheap power generated. Wind power is more than 30% of all electric consumed in the state. Oklahoma wind generates enough electricity to power the city of Chicago, according to local studies. More stations are being developed and installed where most viable.

There are those who, beholden to oil and gas, continue to fight wind power here. For example, a gas lighter wrote an editorial in The Oklahoman' stating that windmills don't work because the big fans don't cool the earth. Really. Other are trying to create exclusion zones because military flight training (although no one flys that low away from the airfields). Last, bordering states often prohibit Oklahoma wind power to cross state lines via transmission wire.

Wind and solar are only getting bigger, and not going away. Don't like it"make it better, but resistance is useless...

#22 | Posted by catdog at 2021-05-08 10:44 AM | Reply

There are new vertical bladed ones, that
take up much less space, and are as efficient,
(look it up on YouTube). Not that our leaders would know about that, because as usual, they are 5 yrs behind the curve.

#23 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-05-08 03:31 PM | Reply

#23 I saw those. Didn't know they where still a thing. No press.

#24 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-05-09 12:48 AM | Reply

I want one in my backyard. Vegas is wind-central! I'd make six figures

#25 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-05-09 06:48 AM | Reply

I don't see the problem.

Since Teapublicans are always tilting at windmills this will produce more renewable electricity AND give them more windmills to tilt at.

Win Win!

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-05-09 10:59 AM | Reply

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