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Thursday, June 10, 2021

As many Americans prepare to head back to the office, companies are hammering out policies on the extent to which they will require, or strongly encourage, employees to be vaccinated against the coronavirus. The bottom line is that companies are legally permitted to make employees get vaccinated, according to recent guidance from the federal agency that enforces workplace discrimination laws, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

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Bottom line, as I see it...

For companies, it is a business decision.

For employees, it is (mostly) a political decision.

With employers having difficulties getting employees of late, the outcome of this may be popcorn-worhy.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-10 08:58 PM | Reply

If you get health care from your employer...

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-06-10 09:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#2

I had not thought of that aspect.

But yeah, that does add an interesting twist.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-10 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I sort of think that the other employees should have a voice on this issue and I come down on the side of them, not the a******s that don't want to get vaccinated. I don't want to work next to some Trumpaholic that refuses to get vaccinated and who can bring infection in to the rest of us. Honestly, I don't respect the religious excuse either. Show me where Jesus said you shouldn't get vaccinated against, basically, a plague.
Common sense should not be overruled, our nation has allowed it to be overruled on far to many things. It is time we reminded ourselves that religious nuts and political hacks should not get to overrule it.
Another episode of "Our Supreme Court decides things they should have no power to decide."

#4 | Posted by danni at 2021-06-11 06:55 AM | Reply

At my place of work 80% of home office associates have been vaccinated. In my group, three of six have been, despite the company having on-site vaccinations available. When those three come back, they get to wear masks except while at their desks, and that's OK by me. Wake up, people...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2021-06-11 09:27 AM | Reply

My employer provided me and 3 family members with Covid shots.
They also gave vaccinated employees 40 hours of PTO (Paid Time Off) to use at our leisure. That's how you do it. Incentivize.

#6 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-06-11 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like 15% of my co-workers have been. The joys of living in Trump country.

#7 | Posted by byrdman at 2021-06-11 12:14 PM | Reply

www.msn.com

The COVID-19 vaccine is free and while providers are not expected to work for free, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explicitly states on its website: "All organizations and providers participating in the CDC COVID-19 Vaccination Program must administer COVID-19 Vaccine at no out-of-pocket cost to the recipient."

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-06-11 01:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's kind of like rules requiring people to wear clothes at the office.

It's in the rules somewhere but employers have never had to enforce either before.

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2021-06-11 01:35 PM | Reply

How do you make somebody get vaccinated that cannot be?

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-06-11 03:20 PM | Reply

"How do you make somebody get vaccinated that cannot be?"

The people who cannot be vaccinated are a tiny percentage of the people who are not vaccinated.
Why are you unwilling to address the issue?
Are you vaccinated? Can you be vaccinated?

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-11 03:39 PM | Reply

They're a tiny %? Show your math.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-06-11 05:30 PM | Reply

How do you make somebody get vaccinated that cannot be?

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg

YOu dont. You make them get a doctor's card saying they can't get vaxxed, while everyone else gets a card saying they are vaxxed.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-11 05:34 PM | Reply

The cards lol. Mine has copious information, my wife's has very little, and we got vaxxed at the same site, same time, but by different nurses next to each other. You could just print one and give it to me and as an employer there's no way for me to verify it, and it really feels like waste of my time to do so.

I'm unwilling to fire an employee that can't be vaxxed. If they can do the job without a vaccination, then anybody without it can do that even if it's by a stupid choice.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-06-11 05:41 PM | Reply

That they're probably too dumb to do that job because they make poor decisions is a separate issue.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-06-11 05:42 PM | Reply

#15 That's right. Vaccination is a gift to employers. The turds that refuse getting vaxxed without a medical justification are top of the list for firing, if you are in a state that needs a reason to fire at all.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-11 06:07 PM | Reply

How do you make somebody get vaccinated that cannot be?
#10 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

You don't. That is why employers who have been requiring vaccinations for a long before covid, like healthcare organizations, allow exceptions under very limit circumstances. The catch is those employees may not be allowed to work in certain areas of the facility. For instance, someone who cannot receive the mmr vaccine may not be allowed to work in a children's ward.

#17 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-06-11 06:41 PM | Reply

To add to what I said in 17, employers that refuse to employ people who have a legitimate medical reason for refusing vaccination may be in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

#18 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-06-11 06:51 PM | Reply

They're a tiny %? Show your math.
#12 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

California and Maryland most recently reported crossing the milestone, joining Vermont, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New Jersey, Rhode Island, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. President Joe Biden has set a goal of having one shot or more administered to 70% of those 18 and older by July 4

www.sciencedirect.com
Abstract
Background
Routine smallpox vaccination for military recruits was discontinued in Israel in 1996. However, Israeli guidelines recommend post-event mass-vaccination. This study aimed to estimate the rate of Israeli adolescents at risk of severe adverse events after vaccination during 1998'2013.

Methods
The study population included adolescents screened before military service in 1998'2013. Medical parameters correlating with contraindications to smallpox vaccination were retrieved from army databases, and were categorized by severity according to the Israeli post-event strategy.

Results
Of 1,180,964 individuals, 1.86% had vaccination contraindications in a post-event scenario. An additional 1.24% had contraindications in a pre-event scenario. There was an increase in the percentage of contraindications over time, attributed to the rising incidence of atopic-dermatitis.

Conclusions
Only a small percentage of the adolescent population is ineligible to receive the smallpox vaccine currently in use. This group may be protected by herd-immunity, or by new-generation vaccines designed to prevent severe adverse events.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-11 06:56 PM | Reply

How do you get Sitzkrieg to discuss this issue like he's a sensible adult?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-11 06:57 PM | Reply

"I'm unwilling to fire an employee that can't be vaxxed."

Can't, or won't?
Stop acting like there's a difference, fool.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-11 07:10 PM | Reply

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