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Friday, June 11, 2021

Most biofuels, including corn ethanol, consume more energy to make than they can produce, to say nothing of their environmental costs.



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Biden should cancel all ethanol subsidies and let that industry die. It will lower food costs and be better for the environment, climate crisis and budget.

#1 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-11 02:06 AM | Reply

Too many jobs are wrapped up in Ethanol. It's just another part of the Corporate Welfare Farm Bill now. And the Farm Bill is a sacred cow. Trump couldn't find a way to kill it, and I doubt Biden even wants to.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-11 02:11 AM | Reply

"It takes five gallons of oil to deliver one gallon of ethanol".

It takes 5.5 gallons of oil to deliver one gallon of gasoline.

If I had nickel for every one of these the Petroleum Institute puts out....

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-06-11 04:10 AM | Reply

#2 We have a massive deficit and the farm bill benefits red states. Let them burn until they play ball.

#4 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-11 08:44 AM | Reply

It's an idiotic concept to turn food into fuel. Bored is correct. Remove subsidies and let the industry die a natural death. Not only will food prices come down as he notes, your car will last longer.

#5 | Posted by jakester at 2021-06-13 08:07 AM | Reply

Please. The corn used for ethanol isn't edible. At best, livestock can eat it, not humans. Field corn isn't sweet corn!

And please, if it took 5 gallons of fuel to deliver 1 gallon of ethanol, do you think Cargill would keep throwing that money away year after year? That's asinine propaganda. It's just stupid to believe it.

And before you cry, "ethanol is subsidized!", you had better check the massive subsidies pouring into the pockets of Petroleum Inc.

Farmers are often subsidized to NOT grow corn because they can produce far more corn than can be processed. Many years I've seen mounds of corn 4 stories high left out to rot.

By far, more ethanol is produced in my state than anywhere in the world, with double the ethanol production of the 2nd ranked state. That doesn't make me an expert, but it does make me more attuned to the nuances and aware of the politics surrounding ethanol production than the average pump jockeys.

The farmers around here are very efficient producers. If they were to grow crops for human consumption much of it would perish before it could be delivered. Ethanol corn isn't taking food off anyone's table.

#6 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2021-06-13 11:07 AM | Reply

#6 - " The corn used for ethanol isn't edible. At best, livestock can eat it, not humans. Field corn isn't sweet corn!"

I think we all know that. It's a small percentage of corn produced that is used for human consumption. But the corn used for ethanol can be used for livestock, bringing down food prices. Even some non-sweet corn can be processed to be made edible by humans as in cereals and hominy.

Even if ethanol corn isn't always suitable for livestock consumption, it's as easy to grow feed corn and maize as it is to grow ethanol corn. Ethanol is a boondoggle.

#7 | Posted by jakester at 2021-06-13 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The people who sharecrop our farm in west Tennessee switched to soy beans and hemp.

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-06-13 12:12 PM | Reply

#6 I want an end to all fossil fuel subsidies as well. Nothing you posted contradicts what I posted, nor does what you said justify ethanol subsidies.

#9 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-13 12:23 PM | Reply

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