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Monday, June 14, 2021

As liberals increasingly rebuke President Joe Biden for his ongoing negotiations with a bipartisan group of senators, one prominent progressive lawmaker is staying out of the fray.

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"From the beginning, Sanders has said Democrats should forgo rounds of negotiations with Republicans on a smaller, traditional infrastructure bill that addresses roads, bridges, and broadband. Instead, he's argued that Democrats should immediately push a larger bill along party lines.

"He's focused on building momentum for a reconciliation bill that will be the most consequential legislation for working people enacted since the 1930s," said a Sanders aide.

Sanders isn't as concerned as other progressives are about their priorities being left out of the overall infrastructure package because the budget process is only just beginning, the aide added. And Sanders believes strong climate provisions " one of his biggest priorities " will be in a reconciliation bill."

He's always been way ahead of his Bro base.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-13 11:08 PM | Reply

Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn Bernie fight with pool noodle. IT's sad but what can you do??

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-06-13 11:18 PM | Reply

#2

Give reality a chance?

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-14 12:27 PM | Reply

Give reality a chance?

#3 | Posted by Corky

Reality is the side that thinks a fascist confederate cult is going to work with them on anything?

Reality is the side that knows the only and last chance to save america is ending the fillibuster, massing HR1, adding 2 blue states, and adding supreme court judges.

But instead, we'll be more "moderate" in hopes that fascists who want us dead will have a change of heart, and then democracy will end in america. Moderates are going to look back on this time and see it for what it was- Our last chance. But they didn't take it.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-14 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4

Bernie wept.

Joe gave the fascist confederate cult a chance to show America that they had no intention of werking with him, and they took it. Now, unless the Purist of the Pure interfere, Bernie will have a chance to put forward his plans for the country.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-14 02:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5

That seems to be a reasonable summary of Pres Biden's tactics on this issue.

Give the GOP a chance to show they can put Country over allegiance to a man.

Unfortunately for the GOP, they still fear the Tweet of Damocles that they see hanging over their heads.


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-14 02:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- the Tweet of Damocles

From the Twit of Mar-a-Lago.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-14 02:55 PM | Reply

Give the GOP a chance to show they can put Country over allegiance to a man.

Unfortunately for the GOP, they still fear the Tweet of Damocles that they see hanging over their heads.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter

A chance? Theyve had that chance many times. Anyone who is still waiting for them to do the right thing is a fool.

Now the priority is keeping this fascist cult out of power forever.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-14 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- a fool.

Bros need to get used to the fact that that describes at least 40 percent of voters.... and deal with that reality.

One way to do that is to let them show swing voters, you know, the ones who decide elections, that they are still fools as often as is necessary.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-14 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A moderate Democrat is probably going to destroy our democracy. Our representative republic is about to fall at the feet of the Democrat, Joe Manchin.

But Corky wants to start a Bernie fight.

#10 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-06-14 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"We're very worried and we need to turn up the heat," Epting added. "Business as usual is not what people voted for."

They also didn't vote for -------, self-righteous "Progressives" who shoot themselves in the dick every time they get elected by behaving exactly like this.

BTW you tools are far from FDR. About as far as the "Conservatives" are from Reagan.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-14 05:14 PM | Reply

Reality is the side that thinks a fascist confederate cult is going to work with them on anything?

There are plenty of Repubs that aren't in the MTG territory.

You just don't hear much about them because they aren't loud mouthed morons like MTG.

problemsolverscaucus.house.gov

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-14 05:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#10

All Dems are Manchin!

(sighs)

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-14 05:43 PM | Reply

The only people stopping liberals from seizing our last chance to save the country from a fascist cult are moderate democrats. FACT.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-14 08:03 PM | Reply

The only people stopping liberals from seizing our last chance to save the country from a fascist cult are moderate democrats. FACT.

#14 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

No, we're stopping you from turning off middle voters so badly they gladly vote GOP and Trump again.

"Progressives" always think every single win is a mandate to ram through every pipe dream they have when in reality they usually only win because the other option is that bad.

They're the US political equivalent of the practice squad who think they're gonna win the national title as soon as they get a play.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-14 09:47 PM | Reply

No, we're stopping you from turning off middle voters so badly they gladly vote GOP and Trump again.

"Progressives" always think every single win is a mandate to ram through every pipe dream they have when in reality they usually only win because the other option is that bad.

#15 | Posted by jpw

Thanks to moderates, it won't matter who middle voters vote for. Repubs can just overturn elections they lose.

"Always" implies that the situation we're in right now is typical. Is this a typical situation america is in right now, that requires a typical solution?

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-14 09:51 PM | Reply

Thanks to moderates, it won't matter who middle voters vote for. Repubs can just overturn elections they lose.
"Always" implies that the situation we're in right now is typical. Is this a typical situation america is in right now, that requires a typical solution?

#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-06-14 09:51 PM | REPLY | FLAG

And how are they going to do that???

#17 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-06-14 09:57 PM | Reply

And how are they going to do that???

#17 | Posted by LauraMohr

They say the election was suspicious, there are questions, it can't be trusted, then they select their own republican electors in replacement of the democratically elected democrat ones.

Same thing trump was trying to get them to do to overturn 2020. Now they're making it so they can actually do it next time.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-14 10:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- The only people stopping liberals from seizing our last chance to save the country from a fascist cult are moderate democrats. FACT.

#14

Fact-free more like. "liberals" are not the majority of the voters... now there's a FACT.

And the GOP is the culpable party, not most Dems. Another FACT.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-14 10:36 PM | Reply

Is this a typical situation america is in right now, that requires a typical solution?

#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Of course it's not typical.

But then why are the "Progressives" threatening to poison the well if they don't get what they want?

Let's not ignore the fact that they're trying to use a crisis to force their agenda.

Which is precisely why they'll drive away moderates of both parties.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-14 10:36 PM | Reply

They say the election was suspicious, there are questions, it can't be trusted, then they select their own republican electors in replacement of the democratically elected democrat ones.
Same thing trump was trying to get them to do to overturn 2020. Now they're making it so they can actually do it next time.

#18 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-06-14 10:24 PM | REPLY | FLAG

That's just nuts. Even the Supreme Court didn't buy that.

#21 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-06-14 11:12 PM | Reply

That's just nuts.
#21 | Posted by LauraMohr

Have you been following life the past few years?

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 02:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Fact-free more like. "liberals" are not the majority of the voters... now there's a FACT.

And the GOP is the culpable party, not most Dems. Another FACT.

#19 | Posted by Corky

This is not about the voters. This is not an election season. This is SAVE THE COUNTRY SEASON.

Stop worrying about the next election because it might be the last.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 02:36 AM | Reply

But then why are the "Progressives" threatening to poison the well if they don't get what they want?

Let's not ignore the fact that they're trying to use a crisis to force their agenda.

Which is precisely why they'll drive away moderates of both parties.

#20 | Posted by jpw

Sad when liberals consider majority rule democracy, as the founders wrote it, to be POISONING THE WELL.

Yeah let's do nothing in a crisis. That's how crisis work right? The just go back no normal on their own?

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 02:37 AM | Reply

That's just nuts.
#21 | Posted by LauraMohr
Have you been following life the past few years?

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-06-15 02:35 AM | REPLY

Yes dear I have. My panties aren't all up in a bunch with fright like some peoples are. We'll get through this like we always have.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-06-15 03:47 AM | Reply

Guys, look: what's important is that we get no actual reforms done that the billionaires are against, like a living wage or medicare for all or China realism.

To do this we have to concentrate on keeping the news about nothing but Trump. And that's going to be a very, very tough problem. So stay on track. What we need here is real solutions, not what we sell on the plantation to ourselves.

#26 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-06-15 05:58 AM | Reply

Sad when liberals consider majority rule democracy, as the founders wrote it, to be POISONING THE WELL.

If you have to misrepresent somebody's position you've already lost.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 10:40 AM | Reply

- This is not about the voters.

It's always about the voters... your apocalyptic predictions notwithstanding.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-15 11:14 AM | Reply

IMO they should abandon bipartisanship and make some progress or risk the people getting frustrated and voting in more "change" like DeSantis and the neo-fascist.
Rather be rejected for doing something and failing rather than doing nothing at all.

#29 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-06-15 12:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#28

If it's about the voters, then you should be enormously concerned that Joe Manchin is going to stand in the way of making sure free and fair elections will continue to exist in our country. Not about starting Bernie fights.

#30 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-06-15 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes dear I have. My panties aren't all up in a bunch with fright like some peoples are. We'll get through this like we always have.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr

YOu get through everything until you don't.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 12:59 PM | Reply

To do this we have to concentrate on keeping the news about nothing but Trump. And that's going to be a very, very tough problem. So stay on track. What we need here is real solutions, not what we sell on the plantation to ourselves.

#26 | Posted by HeliumRat

Remind me again which party cut billionaires taxes and which one raised them.

Remind me who created the consumer financial protection bureau and who is trying to destroy it?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 01:01 PM | Reply

If you have to misrepresent somebody's position you've already lost.

#27 | Posted by jpw

If you let the opposition pass laws that enable them to ignore the votes and still capture power you've already lost.

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 01:24 PM | Reply

If you let the opposition pass laws that enable them to ignore the votes and still capture power you've already lost.

#33 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Except that's not what the "Progressives" are griping about and are threatening to cause problems if their demands aren't met.

As I said, poisoning the well.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 01:40 PM | Reply

Except that's not what the "Progressives" are griping about and are threatening to cause problems if their demands aren't met.

As I said, poisoning the well.

#34 | Posted by jpw

Good luck blaming progressives when republicans overturn the next election they lose because moderates let them get away with it.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 01:46 PM | Reply

Good luck blaming progressives when republicans overturn the next election they lose because moderates let them get away with it.

#35 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Hey moron, nobody is saying let them get away with it.

We're saying stop threatening to divide the party because there aren't enough climate change measures in the infrastructure bill.

"Progressives" are the ones acting as if things aren't on knife's edge demanding they get everything now now now no matter the consequences.

Are you really this stupid?

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 01:59 PM | Reply

"Progressives" are the ones acting as if things aren't on knife's edge demanding they get everything now now now no matter the consequences.

Are you really this stupid?

#36 | Posted by jpw

Theyre not demanding everything. They're demanding to address the ONE thing that makes everything else possible. What good is green legislation if repubs will just end democracy next year and then trash the planet however they want?

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 02:07 PM | Reply

Theyre not demanding everything.

You didn't even read the article...

The White House has been hesitant to abandon talks with centrist Democrats and Republicans, leading a growing number of progressive lawmakers in both chambers to decry the slow pace of negotiations. This past week a handful of Democratic senators shot off warning tweets at the White House, threatening to withhold support for infrastructure bills without climate change provisions included in the one expected to pass with only Democrats. But Sanders didn't join the chorus.

Yeah, "Progressives" are in fact making demands. Stupid demands in light of what's going on.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 02:17 PM | Reply

I guess speaks is off licking his wounds LOL

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 03:18 PM | Reply

White House to Democrats: Get ready to go it alone on infrastructure

White House officials told House Democrats Tuesday to get ready to go it alone on infrastructure if bipartisan talks founder, setting the stage for party leaders to tap an obscure budget procedure to move President Biden's top domestic priority without Republican support.

Huddling in person in the Capitol for the first time since the COVID-19 crisis hit, members of the House Democratic Caucus were briefed by Steve Ricchetti, a top adviser to Biden, and Shalanda Young, the deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget, who said they would give Senate negotiators seven to 10 days to reach a bipartisan agreement, according to Democrats in the meeting.

If no deal is reached in that time, the officials said, Democrats will gauge the progress of those talks and charge ahead with a partisan package if need be.

"We're assuming right now that everything will be done by reconciliation "everything meaning the jobs plan and the families plan," Yarmuth said. "That doesn't preclude a bipartisan agreement. If one happens, we just take that part out of the instructions. But right now we're assuming everything will be [done by reconciliation]."

thehill.com

Don't worry, be Bernie!

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-15 03:56 PM | Reply

From what I gather most Republicans in America want a massive infrastructure Bill to pass.

#41 | Posted by Tor at 2021-06-15 04:04 PM | Reply

Reconciliation isn't really that obscure anymore.

It's the only way major things have gotten done for the last 12 years.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 04:09 PM | Reply

Yeah, "Progressives" are in fact making demands. Stupid demands in light of what's going on.

#38 | Posted by jpw

Those are what you call demands? If repubs and moderates are dragging wind sock biden to the right, who's going to keep them from ruining the point of the legislation?

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 04:09 PM | Reply

Reconciliation isn't really that obscure anymore.

It's the only way major things have gotten done for the last 12 years.

#42 | Posted by jpw

Yeah because one party lost their mind and became obstructionists on everything. The party that moderate dems are going to allow to take the country over forever.

Let progressives fix the country and save democracy. Then moderates can go back to selling us out the way they used to in the good ol days.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 04:11 PM | Reply

- dems are going to allow to take the country over forever.

Oh, the drama!

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2021-06-15 04:47 PM | Reply

Oh, the drama!

#45 | Posted by Corky

Because nothing dramatic has been happening for the past 5 years has it? Nope. Just a little blip. Back to normal now. Nothing to see here.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-15 06:14 PM | Reply

Let progressives fix the country and save democracy.

LOL the only thing "Progressives" are good at is stepping on their own ducks.

Fix the country and save democracy? Must be why they're gonna blackmail Biden for climate initiatives instead of getting infrastructure actually moving towards fixed, right?

Because they're shaping up to be just as bad as Repubs where it's all or nothing.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 08:26 PM | Reply

#46 "progressives" are always acting like they're bad asses if only they'd stop being held back by moderates.

Only to have McConnell wipe the floor with them every time.

You idiots are the guy at the bar who gets his ass licked every night but still talks ---- the next day as if it didn't happen.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 08:31 PM | Reply

I wished we DID Have progressives in the WhiteHouse and the Congress instead of Corporatist sell out Democrats.

#49 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-06-15 10:23 PM | Reply

Wish all you want, Laura. There is a reason we don't.

And most of that reason is that "Progressives" alienate voters every single time they have power.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 10:30 PM | Reply

Wish all you want, Laura. There is a reason we don't.
And most of that reason is that "Progressives" alienate voters every single time they have power.

POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-06-15 10:30 PM | REPLY

We haven't had a Progressive in the WhiteHouse since IKE and people LOVED him.. Spare me the Balderdash.

#51 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-06-15 10:34 PM | Reply

Ike was hardly a "Progressive" in the modern sense.

In any case, that doesn't rebut my point.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-15 10:39 PM | Reply

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