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Friday, June 18, 2021

General Motors Co. is raising its investment in electric vehicles -- the second boost in recent months -- and pushing deeper into battery production, making it the latest global auto maker to accelerate its transition to plug-in cars.

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This is great news! Competition should drive down prices, which will save me money on my next EV purchase.

#1 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-16 05:28 PM | Reply

Since a lot of the money used to maintain highways in the states is raised via taxes on gasoline, when the majority of cars no longer use gasoline, how will the road maintenance be funded?

Tolls?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-17 10:27 AM | Reply

GPS enabled tolls I guess.

#3 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-17 10:55 AM | Reply

@#3

Connecticut has been going back and forth about implementing tolls. (long story)

The toll "booths" are license plate scanners are installed at specific locations along major roads.

The scanners are on structures across the road. You maintain speed as you go under the scanners.

Here is what one looks like:

www.masslive.com


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-17 11:14 AM | Reply

They have similar things in Europe for downtown congestion control and tolls. There should be no need for toll booths and EVs will likely have the tech to talk to the toll machines without scanning license plates.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-17 09:12 PM | Reply

Trucks are the ones that wear out roads, once those go electric they will have to meter road usage.

#6 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-17 09:13 PM | Reply

@#5 ... EVs will likely have the tech to talk to the toll machines without scanning license plates. ...

I'd imagine that even gas cars will have that ability, e.g., it is already available via EZ-Pass here in the northeast (I'm sure other areas have something similar).

The problem with those types of technology is that it can be used for tracking...

Is EZ Pass Poised to Take a Toll on Your Privacy Rights?
digital.hbs.edu

...In 2013, a New Jersey resident built a simple device (using a breadboard from the Shad plant!) to detect every time his EZ Pass transponder was activated, and drove around New York City. In the stretch between Times Square and Madison Square Garden, a stretch of city streets with no tolls, his EZ Pass transponder was read 6 times! Upon investigation of NYC's use of EZ Pass readers for purposes other than toll collection, it was discovered that NYC feeds this data to its traffic management center to provide real-time traffic information, to improve traffic flow. NYC stated that transponder information is scrambled and not kept permanently in any system....

... NYC stated that transponder information is scrambled and not kept permanently in any system. ...

Of course it isn't...

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-18 11:49 AM | Reply

Florida has had SunPass for years, it works fine. I'm fine with tolls that make those who use the roads most pay the most. And, I agree, trucks do the most damage to the roads but honestly they also pay, by far, the most in taxes for usage of those roads. Many of them actually display the amount they pay yearly and it is in the thousands of dollars. I believe they are paying their share to provide us with the products we need all the time. Most of the drivers are careful and courteous, not so all the car drivers who just can't seem to find that little arm on the side of the steering wheel which activates the turning indicators. I make it a habit to allow any driver of any car or truck to move into my lane ahead of me when they just turn on their blinker.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2021-06-18 12:17 PM | Reply

If the EV demand falters now, it won't be long until they are an economically viable alternative. The infrastructure to support them simply doesn't exist sufficiently to make people want to buy them.

However, the day will come as fossil fuels become less scarce, it will be necessary to build that infrastructure. EVs will then have their day

#9 | Posted by jakester at 2021-06-18 12:26 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

It's called FASTPASS. California has had it for years.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-06-18 01:45 PM | Reply

"The infrastructure to support them simply doesn't exist sufficiently"

Where do you live? Charging stations are a dime a dozen in Cali.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-06-18 01:46 PM | Reply

Hydrogen fuel cells are the ones that are lacking infrastructure. It doesn't take much to put up a charging station.

#12 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-06-18 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#10 ... It's called FASTPASS. California has had it for years. ...

Yup, that's why I said in #7 "...via EZ-Pass here in the northeast (I'm sure other areas have something similar)....".

I was mistaken about EZ-Pass, though, it is not just part of the northeast.

EZ-Pass serves Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Ontario, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, West Virginia.

It has been in use since 1987.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-18 01:58 PM | Reply

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