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Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows reportedly initially dismissed the idea that George Floyd's killing would dominate the news and generate nationwide outrage in May 2020, instead thinking "nobody" would care.

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Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows reportedly initially dismissed the idea that George Floyd's killing would dominate the news and generate nationwide outrage in May 2020, instead thinking "nobody" would care.

Repug icon Derek Chauvin set the entire country on fire. Nice call, Nostradumbass.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-06-19 08:05 AM | Reply

I recall a congressional hearing where Meadows had a fit because someone suggested that be was a racist. He wrapped himself in his "friendship" with the chairman Elijah Cummings. There was never any doubt that Meadows is stupid, the enthusiastic kisser of a fat, orange, dimpled ass, and as everyone at the tail end of the Drumpf Regime he is a racist.

#2 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-06-19 12:10 PM | Reply

"Nobody is going to care about that"

He's half right: Trumpers didn't care about it.
The few Trumpers who bothered to comment predictably praised the police for taking out the black trash.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-19 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Pretty dumb statement if you've seen the video...of course people are going to care. Now if he was white no one would have cared.

#4 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-19 04:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If he was white, ya dumbass, this wouldn't have happened.
Where do you stupid f**ks come from?

#5 | Posted by YAV at 2021-06-19 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Pretty dumb statement if you've seen the video."

But what if you only read the police report? "Man Dies After Medical Incident During Police Interaction."

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-19 06:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Racist AND stupid. Perfect Trump chief of staff.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2021-06-20 04:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If he was white, ya dumbass, this wouldn't have happened.
Where do you stupid f**ks come from?

If you really believe that you've been gulping down that media kool-aid by the gallon. It's true the media spins the narrative that only black folks are mistreated by the police. but the reality is more whites are killed by the police than blacks. Still the race baiters drone on loud and long...this doesn't happen to white people and it's proof of systemic racism...blah, blah, blah.
For every black person unjustly killed by the police a white person was killed in a similar situation but the media chooses to ignore it and because you're lazy and ignorant you choose to buy into their BS narrative.
You ever heard of William Jennette? Probably not. why dont you take a look at that situation and look at the similarities to a more publicized police killing. Read what the cops told him when he said he couldn't breathe. Take a look at the date it happened, May 2020, same month as Floyd.

#8 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 09:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"For every black person unjustly killed by the police a white person was killed in a similar situation ..."

And there are nearly 6 white people for every black person in America
So what does that do to your math?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-06-20 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 - White people constitute the majority of the U.S. population, with a total of about 234 million or 73% of the population of the US. Blacks make up about 43 million, or 13.4%. Do you know what that means? You'd expect more whites to be killed just by the sheer number of whites compared to blacks. But...

"The highest levels of inequality in mortality risk are experienced by black men. Black men are about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police over the life course than are white men. Black women are about 1.4 times more likely to be killed by police than are white women."

So a Black male is 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than a White male.

So a Black woman is 1.4 times more likely to be killed by police than a White woman.

All while making up only 13.4% of the population.

www.pnas.org
www.pnas.org

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2021-06-20 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So what does that do to your math?

EXACTLY.

#11 | Posted by YAV at 2021-06-20 10:00 AM | Reply

"but the reality is more whites are killed by the police than blacks"

The reality is there's more whites for the police to kill.

On a per capita basis, police kill more blacks than whites.

So what you did there is make a misleading claim.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 11:26 AM | Reply

"Read what the cops told him when he said he couldn't breathe."

Cops have told lots of people they don't deserve to breathe.

Police have expert witnesses who claimed that saying "I can't breathe" is a form of resisting arrest.

The problem with taking color out of the picture and making this a class struggle is class struggle is the stuff of Marxism. Americans aren't ready for that.

Are you a Communist, ScottE? That would explain your view of the real struggle being the class struggle.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 11:30 AM | Reply

#8 Liar
The complaint says Jennette began beating his cell door with his fists and deputies moved to extract him from his cell.
According to the autopsy report's summary of the case, after deputies entered the cell, Jennette "began to fight the officers" and was subsequently pepper sprayed twice and taken to the ground.
The case gained national attention after reporting from CNN affiliate WTVF.
Surveillance video from the Marshall County Jail, obtained by WTVF, shows Jennette struggling with jail deputies who can be seen punching him and pepper spraying him with a substance after he has exited the cell.
The video shows three sheriff's deputies continue to struggle with Jennette and are unable to gain control of him. The struggle lasted at least 2 minutes and 40 seconds, according to the video.

Floyd was peaceful and compliant the whole time as the video showed. Fighting cops is a bad idea.

#14 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-20 11:52 AM | Reply

#14 | Posted by bored

Clearly, our boy, SCOTTE, ain't th' sharpest knife it th' drawer...

#15 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-06-20 12:32 PM | Reply

So everyone is making the same point... there's more white people. My initial comment was if it was a white person no one would care, and y'all just proved it.
No one cared to comment on the death of this man by the police.
Death by asphyxiation while they knelt on his back with his hands and feet cuffed, and him saying I can't breathe. And the response from you concerned citizens is the police utter threats to lots of people, and there's lots of white people so who cares if one is killed by the cops.
One ass even goes so far as to cherry pick information from the case (information provided by the police...so now you can trust them, huh) to make it seem like this man was a violent felon when he was actually an addict who was arrested for public intoxication. Implying that he wasn't be cooperative like George Floyd and therefore deserved to die. Of course the reason Floyd was on the pavement was because he was fighting with the police and refused to get into the patrol car.
Did y'all even watch any of the Floyd trial?
Did anybody watch the Jennette video?

#16 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 12:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"No one cared to comment on the death of this man by the police."

Obviously they did, since it was in the newspaper.

"Of course the reason Floyd was on the pavement was because he was fighting with the police and refused to get into the patrol car."

Now who's cherry picking?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 12:46 PM | Reply

Just saw the comment that I'm a communist because I'm concerned about police brutality towards any person regardless of race. Wow...just wow.

#18 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 12:52 PM | Reply

Marxism is about the class struggle.

You view police brutality as a class struggle.

Connect the dots.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 12:56 PM | Reply

Or maybe you just only care about white people.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 12:56 PM | Reply

Snoopy, don't even try it...flip this around like I'm the one using race to make a judgement on police behavior.
That would be most of the posters here. If it happens to a black person it's an atrocity committed by a racist. If it happens to a white person well they deserve it.
Where you got the idea that I believe the problem of police brutality is a class struggle is something from your imagination.

#21 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 01:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"If it happens to a black person it's an atrocity committed by a racist. If it happens to a white person well they deserve it."

No.

There have been plenty of whites killed by police who didn't deserve it.

But it's more likely to happen to blacks.

You're trying really hard to play the white victim card, but everyone knows the black victim card trumps the white victim card.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Snoofy's a troll. Don't feed the trolls. It encourages them to be even stupider than they normally are. Ignore or counter troll thats the only way to deal with them if you want an honest conversation.

Even that usually fails however.

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-06-20 01:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

The problem you face, ScottE, is responding to "Black Lives Matter" with "White Lives Matter" comes off as racist.

And the fact that you identity as an Independent Libertarian isn't doing you any favors in that regard.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoopy I didn't bring BLM or WLM into the discussion. It has been mentioned at all until you brought it up.
I just stated that if was a white person no one would have cared and gave an example of someone who died in a very similar manner as George Floyd the same month he was killed and it got no press coverage or protests or riots. And all the posters here proved my point.
And I wasn't cherry picking I was responding to the statement that George Floyd was peaceful and compliant. That was clear in my statement. Context Snoopy, context.

#25 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 02:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yeah you did. You just didn't use those exact words.

Your shtick is the media is racist against whites.

Your shtick is that we are racist against whites.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I was appalled at what happened to George Floyd and Chauvin got what he deserved and nobody has heard me say different.
Derek Chauvin has been charged, tried and convicted. The family of Floyd has received a huge settlement without even suing.
The folks who killed William Jennette weren't even reprimanded, and there certainly hasn't been any settlement.

#27 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 02:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I just stated that if was a white person no one would have cared"

Which is the same thing as saying the media and everyone else doesn't care about whites.

Which is the same as saying the media and everyone else is racist against whites.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 02:22 PM | Reply

I didn't say that either. I said the media is trying to create a narrative that only blacks are the victims of police brutality. And they do by choosing what stories they give coverage to and how much. If you see that statement as the media is racist against whites either something is wrong with your thinking or you're just plain dumb.
Go back and see the first response to my initial statement which beside being full of expletives and insults it made the completely false claim that it doesn't happen to whites.
And everybody got mad when I showed you an example that happened the same month as Floyd.
And for every celebrated case of a black killed by the police I can show a white person killed in similar circumstances...why is it not covered Snoopy?

#29 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 02:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I said the media is trying to create a narrative that only blacks are the victims of police brutality."

You're the only one trying to create that narrative.

The media narrative is that blacks are more likely to be the victims of police brutality. Which is true.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 02:35 PM | Reply

"And for every celebrated case of a black killed by the police I can show a white person killed in similar circumstances...why is it not covered"

When you go protest these killings, are you all alone?

Obvioysly I'm joking. You don't even protest.

Start protesting, you might get some attention.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 02:38 PM | Reply

The police are thugs.
The police are also racist thugs.
Which is why blacks experience more police brutality than whites.

Getting rid of the racists will do a lot to get rid of the thugs. Ever met a thug who isn't also a bigot?

As for the thugs, a lot of white people are fine with that. It's what they want.

All Trump voters endorsed the idea that the police ought to be more violent towards suspects for example.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I said the media is trying to create a narrative that only blacks are the victims of police brutality."

Which outs you as an absolute, unequivocal, moron.

Shut up and go away.

#33 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-06-20 06:18 PM | Reply

I'm not going anywhere. And I proved unequivocally that it's not true. If you can't handle the truth that's your problem. Evidently your anger has blinded you to the reality of police brutality. Maybe your privlileged elitist life has led you to believe that only certain races are victims of police brutality which is far from the truth.

#34 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 07:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"And I proved unequivocally that it's not true."

Sure.
You proved it.
Whatever.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 07:21 PM | Reply

"Maybe your privlileged elitist life has led you to believe that only certain races are victims of police brutality which is far from the truth."

Nobody thinks that.

You're being a punk.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-20 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm glad you have some real data other than your opinion...not.
I really thought that nobody could be blinded by ideology like the Trumptard's but I guess I was wrong. You folks are just as bad.

#37 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 08:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Maybe your privlileged elitist life..."

I'm a plumber, dumbass.

#38 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-06-20 08:13 PM | Reply

I'm a plumber, dumbass.

So?

#39 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-20 09:33 PM | Reply

I really thought that nobody could be blinded by ideology like the Trumptard's but I guess I was wrong. You folks are just as bad.

Oh goody...another moderate that can't tell the parties apart.

JUST WHAT AMERICA NEEDED.

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2021-06-20 10:31 PM | Reply

For every black person unjustly killed by the police a white person was killed in a similar situation but the media chooses to ignore it and because you're lazy and ignorant you choose to buy into their BS narrative.

If you truly believe that whites are unjustly killed by police, why are you so antagonistic to the media hype about blacks being killed by police? Something needs to be done about unjust police actions and the American people should be thankful that a shining light is bringing these issues to the public's attention.

A similar situation exists with respect to affirmative action. The plight of black folk focused attention on the need for AA. Sure, black folk did benefit from AA but who else benefited? It's been said that white males over 40 and white females benefited even more from AA than did black folk! Why is that? Investigation into the structural racism that existed/exists in hiring/promotion policies uncovered the structural sexism and ageism that also existed. So the thinking went, if we're going to address racism, we should also address sexism and ageism.

#41 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2021-06-21 06:29 AM | Reply

#40

I didn't say they had the same views just the same problem. Two completely different parties with extremists on both sides so blinded by ideology that they refuse to accept facts or listen to ideas that aren't 100% in lock step with their extremist viewpoint.

#42 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-21 09:12 AM | Reply

#41

I don't see where I am being antagonistic I just asked why it is that the media doesn't cover police shootings/killing of whites with the same fervor. They don't and as evidenced here on this thread some people refuse to believe that white people are being killed by the police.
If you watch the news at all interviews with person after person all claim this is a problem for the black community and it doesn't happen to white people which is why the problem is not being addressed. So I guess the media campaign is successful in spreading this disinformation but the question is why?
If the goal is to bring the bad behavior of the police into the light wouldn't more instances of misconduct make a stronger case?
Two men George Floyd and William Jennette dying of asphyxiation at the hands of the police in the same month! Duncan Lemp shot the day before Brianna Taylor in a no knock warrant raid in the the middle of the night and based on an anonymous tip. Two people in two days! Linden Cameron, thirteen year old unarmed autistic boy shot 11 times...

#43 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-21 09:57 AM | Reply

"Maybe your privlileged elitist life..."
I'm a plumber, dumbass.

#38 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD

Wait, so Snoofy is also AngryDad!?!?! Oh too funny, hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahah hahahahahahahah

#44 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2021-06-21 10:07 AM | Reply

Justagirl, I just spent a couple days in your state. You can't buy liquor after 9:00 on Friday??? The sun hadn't even gone down yet!

#45 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-06-21 10:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#45 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ

It definitely took getting used to when I moved here from Cali. You have to buy liquor in a state ran store, which as you said closes at 9 on Friday and Saturday, but only 8pm weekdays, and as early as 6pm (gasp) on Sunday ^_^ If you dont plan ahead all you can find is beer and wine. I am close enough to Washington that I could hop across and buy something from Walmart though...

#46 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2021-06-21 11:09 AM | Reply

"I just asked why it is that the media doesn't cover police shootings/killing of whites with the same fervor."

Because the America isn't Marxist, and neither is the media, so it's easier for Americans to accept the racial struggle than it is for Americans to accept the class struggle.

The racial struggle features prominently in our history, from Sally Hemings to Dred Scott to Jim Crow. We don't talk about the class struggle much.

About the best I can do on the class struggle is "Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 11:32 AM | Reply

I don't see where I am being antagonistic I just asked why it is that the media doesn't cover police shootings/killing of whites with the same fervor. They don't and as evidenced here on this thread some people refuse to believe that white people are being killed by the police.
If you watch the news at all interviews with person after person all claim this is a problem for the black community and it doesn't happen to white people which is why the problem is not being addressed. So I guess the media campaign is successful in spreading this disinformation but the question is why?
If the goal is to bring the bad behavior of the police into the light wouldn't more instances of misconduct make a stronger case?
Two men George Floyd and William Jennette dying of asphyxiation at the hands of the police in the same month! Duncan Lemp shot the day before Brianna Taylor in a no knock warrant raid in the the middle of the night and based on an anonymous tip. Two people in two days! Linden Cameron, thirteen year old unarmed autistic boy shot 11 times...

#43 | Posted by ScottE

Your entire argument is based on not understanding what PER CAPITA means.

The rest of us understand it. You keep typing and typing as if you don't and embarrassing yourself.

More black people are killed by cops PER CAPITA. Any black person has a higher chance of being killed by a cop than any white person.

This has already been explained to you a dozen times, so I doubt that this time will make any difference either.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-21 12:47 PM | Reply

"Wait, so Snoofy is also AngryDad!?!?!"

I am?
Happy, I mean, Angry Father's Day to me, I guess...

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 12:50 PM | Reply

Snoopy you keep trying to reframe my position, and continue to fail...or are you just obtuse.
I never said blacks weren't more likely to confront police brutality...never!
I said the media covers the issue as it only happens to blacks and doesn't happen to whites. And if you were truly honest you'd just admit it. You've probably heard that above sentiment expresses hundred if not thousands of times in the media and it is never questioned. So much so that everyone hear is 100% convinced that it's true even with evidence to the contrary.
And for some strange reason you keep labeling me a communist and a Marxist.

#50 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-21 02:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I said the media covers the issue as it only happens to blacks and doesn't happen to whites.
#50 | Posted by ScottE

Disproportionate per capita police encounters DOESNT happen to whites. White don't get targeted for simply being white.

Do you needs a kindergarten teacher to write this in crayon for you?

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-21 02:29 PM | Reply

Then why do whites get targeted?
And does it really matter?
Apparently to you and others here it does matter because you view every interaction through lens of race. So you're saying police brutality is okay with you if the victim is white and wasn't targeted because of their race...which was my initial statement...if the person was white no one would care, and y'all have proved it over and over on this thread.
And George Floyd wasn't targeted because of his race. The police were called because he was suspected of passing counterfeit money.
When the police arrived he wasn't cooperative, he was fighting with the police, he refused to get in the patrol car. If you watched the trial there was video of the two other people who were in the car with him and they are telling him to stop resisting and just get in the car.
So the cop was really pissed and decided to show him a lesson. I think it was his behavior more than his skin color that set Chauvin off.

#52 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-06-21 03:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

George Floyd wasn't targeted because of his race

#52 | POSTED BY SCOTTE

His race is what got him killed. A white man would have survived that encounter.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2021-06-21 03:41 PM | Reply

So the cop was really pissed and decided to show him a lesson.

#52 | POSTED BY SCOTTE

An argument for everyone being afraid of the police.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2021-06-21 03:43 PM | Reply

"I said the media covers the issue as it only happens to blacks and doesn't happen to whites."

You're saying the media never reports on the police brutality done to whites.
Then how did you learn about William Jennette? Why does that name give over a million hits on Google?
???

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 03:48 PM | Reply

"Apparently to you and others here it does matter because you view every interaction through lens of race."

And wow do you view them? Through the lens of class.
Viewing society through the lens of the class struggle is called Marxism.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 03:49 PM | Reply

Then why do whites get targeted?
And does it really matter?
Apparently to you and others here it does matter because you view every interaction through lens of race. So you're saying police brutality is okay with you if the victim is white and wasn't targeted because of their race...w

#52 | Posted by ScottE

No I'm not saying that. You're obviously too stupid to hear anything other than what you want to hear.

Whites get "targeted" when they do something wrong. Or maybe when they do something crazy to their appearance like a face tattoo.

Blacks get targeted when they do NOTHING wrong, simply for the way they are born.

Now its your turn to tell us how you STILL cant comprehend this.

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-06-21 04:40 PM | Reply

" Then why do whites get targeted? "

No one said they didn't; they just "get targeted" at a much lower rate.

"And does it really matter?"

Well, for you to get that same feeling, you would have to be targeted at 36 times your current rate. Would that matter to you???

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-06-21 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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