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Tuesday, June 22, 2021

Researchers at the Ubiquitous System Security Lab of Zhejiang University and the University of Michigan's Security and Privacy Research Group say they've found a way to blind autonomous vehicles to obstacles using simple audio signals.

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...In simulation, Poltergeist showed a 100 per cent success rate for hiding, 87.9 percent for creating, and 95.1 percent for altering objects, when trialled against the YOLO V3/V4/V5 and Fast R-CNN object detection networks plus a commercial YOLO 3D implementation used in Baidu's Apollo robo-taxis.

To prove the concept out of the lab, a Samsung S20 smartphone was attached to a moving vehicle and an actual attack carried out. While object creation and alteration proved considerably more difficult than the simulations had suggested, at a 43.7 per cent and 43.1 per cent success rate respectively, hiding objects was easy with a worrying 98.3 per cent success rate, the researcher said.

"PG [Poltergeist] attacks are robust," the team found, "across various scenes, weathers, time periods of a day, and camera resolutions."...


Proof of concept testing looks interesting...

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 12:00 PM | Reply

"they're here...."

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-06-21 02:16 PM | Reply

@#2

That's what popped into my mind when I first saw the headline on TheRegister.com website. :)

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But hey, let's have semi-tractor trailer trucks operate without drivers. As if they can't be hacked. Because, as we all know, hackers from Russia, and other places including here at home, can't really hack virtually everything.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2021-06-23 05:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | Posted by danni

My thoughts completely. What's worse is hackers will find a way to take control of the vehicles at some point and that will be even worse. Look the tech is great in my mind but the reality is this will happen in the real world once critical mass is hit and since vehicle manufacturers give minimal thought to security (except to keep non-paying and home mechanics out)...

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-06-23 09:49 AM | Reply

One of the things I wonder is why aren't trains automated?

Cars and trucks have multi-dimensional pathways to deal with, while a train has only one thing to worry about so far as direction goes - stay on the tracks.

The tracks' layout and hazards are well-know and documented.

There's far less complexity involved with automated trains than with automated cars and trucks.

Yet I don't see a lot of trains being automated...

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-23 01:16 PM | Reply

Yet I don't see a lot of trains being automated...
#6 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2021-06-23 01:16 PM | FLAG:

Entire rail networks are fully automated.

Automatic Train Operations
List of Automated Train Systems

Freight rail is going unmanned with AI conductors fusing machine vision, track signal systems, LIDAR, GPS+RTK2, etc.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-06-23 03:10 PM | Reply

One issue with freight is the need the update all of the rolling stock. To assemble a freight train you have to cut the cars together in an order it's possible to take them off at the various industrial destinations. That requires coupling and uncoupling cars, moving them onto different switched track segments, then reassembling them into a consist (locomotive + rolling stock in order). For that you need a human to go to each coupler and do the manual labor.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-06-23 03:18 PM | Reply

"Yet I don't see a lot of trains being automated..."

When you consider the damage that a train can do compared to a truck, it's pretty obvious. A train can destroy a town a truck can destroy several other vehicles.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2021-06-23 03:56 PM | Reply

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