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Tuesday, June 22, 2021

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CCTV captures 'scarily fleeting' encounter that resulted in Bondi COVID-19 cluster growing
www.abc.net.au

...It's a "scarily fleeting" encounter between two people out shopping captured on CCTV that has health authorities in NSW worried.

The state's Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant described it as a "momentary" crossover at Bondi Junction Westfield.

The footage shows two people briefly walk past each other while out shopping " both of them now infected with COVID-19.

Dr Chant suspects two other people were infected with COVID in the same fashion.

"We know that there's been three people that have been exposed on both June 12 and June 13," Dr Chant said.

"In one, we actually have CCTV footage of the encounter and it is basically a crossover of individuals. They are clearly facing each other but it is literally someone moving across from each other for a moment, close, but momentary.

"In two other cases, we haven't been able to, with CCTV footage, look at the exact same crossover point, but we know they were 20 metres [apart], signing in at different venues at the same time or in that area so we suspect they did cross over."...

Premier Gladys Berejiklian added the encounter was "scarily fleeting".

"Literally people not even physically touching each other but fleetingly coming into the same airspace has seen the virus transfer from one person to another," the Premier said.

"That's how contagious it is."...


Other coverage of these events stated that it was the Delta variant, also that Australia has excellent contact tracing capabilities.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 03:35 PM | Reply

It's a "scarily fleeting" encounter between two people out shopping captured on CCTV that has health authorities in NSW worried.

Definitely scary when you think of how many non-vaccinated people there are around the world:

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#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-06-21 09:48 PM | Reply

@#2

The virus is adapting.

The question that lingers in the air, like an unclaimed flatulence, is ... are we adapting quickly enough to stay ahead of the virus?

Given Japan's current view of the Olympics, I'd say that money concerns are winning out over health concerns.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 10:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Delta Variant Gains Steam in Undervaccinated U.S. Counties
www.bloomberg.com

... Early evidence suggests that the highly contagious delta variant, which has prompted concern worldwide as it leads to new surges of Covid-19 across the globe, is spreading in undervaccinated pockets of the U.S.

The genomics firm Helix analyzed about 20,000 samples from Covid-19 tests across more than 700 U.S. counties. It found that cases of the variant first documented in India appear to be growing far faster in counties with lower vaccination rates than in areas that have higher rates.

The ongoing spread of the variant in pockets of low vaccine uptake are troubling because they create more opportunities for the virus to thrive and mutate. The longer the virus spreads, the more chances it has to create easier inroads into human cells, and potentially take on deadlier forms....


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 10:14 PM | Reply

"Delta Variant Gains Steam in Undervaccinated U.S. Counties"

Yes, I read about this this morning and started to get more worried for people, especially family members, who are still unvaccinated and say they have no intention of getting vaccinated. It's their choice but oh how I wish they'd reconsider.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-06-21 10:21 PM | Reply

Is this unusual or do new variants just get more hostile by their very nature?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-06-21 10:28 PM | Reply

We prefer to call it:
Survival Of The Fittest.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 10:30 PM | Reply

@#5 ... they have no intention of getting vaccinated. It's their choice but oh how I wish they'd reconsider. ...

Every time the virus reproduces there is an opportunity for a mutation (variant).

So the more people who have no intention of being vaccinated, the more Petri dishes there exist for the virus to plot against us.

The Delta variant shows how agile this virus is.

The question seems to be: are we going to try to stay ahead of the virus, or are we going to just give u and surrender to the virus?

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 10:34 PM | Reply

"people, especially family members, who are still unvaccinated and say they have no intention of getting vaccinated"

That's 2/3 of adults in some states.

Many are gonna get sick and some will die.

Thoughts and prayers.
Nothing can be done.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 10:36 PM | Reply

@#6 ... Is this unusual or do new variants just get more hostile by their very nature? ...

Good question. I've not a clue.

But let's look at it ...

If an enemy is attacking a fort, and the fort is fighting back.

So the enemy then changes its tactics (variant). Maybe instead of battering rams, now the enemy uses explosives.

If the defense of the fort is not prepared for the change to explosives, what happens?


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 10:38 PM | Reply

"Every time the virus reproduces there is an opportunity for a mutation (variant)."

Indeed, that's exactly the way it works.

By not getting vaccinated, you're basically offering up your immune system to improve the ability of the Gyna Virus to spread and overcome our natural defenses and our engineered vaccines.

This is yet another example of how the GOP is a Death Cult.

And with COVID-19, it's not just themselves they are killing.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-21 10:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#11 ... And with COVID-19, it's not just themselves they are killing. ...

That is the most surprising aspect of the GOP political response to COVID-19 that puzzles me.

I mean, why would a political party actively, oh so actively, promote policies that result in the reduction in the numbers of their followers?

Why actively reduce your political base?

It is bizarre. I've no other words for it.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-06-21 10:53 PM | Reply

Lamplighter, here is why they do it. This is key to how fascism works.

It's because, if they'll kill their own for you, they'll do anything for you.

It's like in the mob. When the boss says Tony's a rat, then Tony's a rat. You don't question it. You show your loyalty by not questioning it, even when it happens to you. (Plenty have then questioned it with their last breaths, but for them it was too late.)

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-22 12:13 AM | Reply

So is the virus evolving or is it intelligent design. I mean I love God and all but.....

#14 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-06-22 12:54 AM | Reply

Only 36% of people in Greene County, MO are partially vaccinated. A hospital CEO tells me they're seeing a six-fold increase in covid cases, patients are younger/sicker, the Delta variant is rampant and vaccine hesitancy is highest among rural, white, and evangelical patients:

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#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-06-22 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Covid has a low infection fatality ratio. Somewhere around 2%.

If I'm given 98% odds in Vegas I'll bet the farm. Outstanding odds for any petri dish.

I voted for Joe, but I'm no longer masking and I'm not vaccinating.

Let the deaths rise as they will. I'm moving on...dead or alive.

#16 | Posted by FSUknowit at 2021-06-22 08:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

So is the virus evolving or is it intelligent design. I mean I love God and all but.....

No. It's so much simpler than that. It's mutating. Will that result in it evolving? Yet to be determined.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2021-06-22 08:50 AM | Reply

The longer the virus spreads, the more chances it has to create easier inroads into human cells, and potentially take on deadlier forms....

The evolutionary space isn't infinite.

And extremely contagious, virulent pathogens tend to burn themselves out.

If historical experience is any sort of indicator this winter is going to be a rough ride much as last winter was but after that it's more or less over and we move on to the seasonal, endemic stage.

This type of article only reinforces my continued use of masks when I go into public spaces. I live in a low vaccine rate state (although my county is better than state average) and the percentage of people not wearing masks in a given public space is well above the vaccination rate.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-22 08:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is this unusual or do new variants just get more hostile by their very nature?

#6 | POSTED BY REDIAL

I wouldn't call this variant more hostile. It's adapting to humans (try again GoF folks) and has mutations that were seen in other variants. This one is unique because it has them all in one place.

It's not so much that disease is worse (symptoms are apparently changing with this variant) it's that it's more effective at getting around and, I'm guessing, requires a lower dose to infect a new host.

But in general viruses decrease in virulence as they adapt to a new host. That was the saving grace with SARS-CoV-1; it was too pathogenic. An infected person felt way to ------ to be out and about to spread it and they also were easier to spot and were likely to seek medical care.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-22 10:38 AM | Reply

" Why actively reduce your political base?
It is bizarre. I've no other words for it."

The Mongols became stronger by culling their weakest.

#20 | Posted by PussyFort at 2021-06-22 12:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The Mongols became stronger by culling their weakest."

The Mongols didn't have to worry about majority voting.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-06-22 12:18 PM | Reply

I'm not denying the delta variant is "more" than the original, but nothing about the description of the transmission described seems different than what we were told about covid last year, and why we needed to socially distance and wear masks. Why is a video of it being transmitted by two people being in close proximity suddenly concerning.

Not denying covid, just not seeing the difference here.

#22 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-06-22 12:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Why is a video of it being transmitted by two people being in close proximity suddenly concerning."

The guidance I've heard is you need more than fleeting exposure. I believe the question is phrased like "have you been in close proximity for more than five minutes with someone who tested positive."

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-22 01:02 PM | Reply

but nothing about the description of the transmission described seems different than what we were told about covid last year

The changes likely make the infectious dose less than initial strains.

Previous risk was the mix of three variables-distance, time and environment (indoors vs outdoors mostly as a function of ventilation).

Outdoors required very close proximity for long time to spread.

Indoors could efficiently spread over a short time frame and longer distances if ventilation was poor.

This new variant seems to spread much more effectively, even in a short interaction such as walking past somebody.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-22 02:07 PM | Reply

So basically, just like a century ago, next winter is going to be worse than last winter.

Congratulations, Republicans!
You built that.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-22 04:26 PM | Reply

#25 a million dead Republicans is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

I have started a GoFundMe to pay the Wuhan lab to make a more deadly virus. After a few years traffic will be much better. Getting tickets for events should be easier. Plus I want to pickup some rural churches to open a line of sex shops to help repopulate the red rural counties.

#26 | Posted by bored at 2021-06-22 05:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So basically, just like a century ago, next winter is going to be worse than last winter.

I don't know about worse but I think it'll be about the same.

Unless COVID burns through the unvaccinated pretty quickly this summer we've still got about 20% (rough estimate in my head, could be less) to reach theoretical herd immunity levels plus the remaining idiots who refuse to be vaccinated.

Some might have natural immunity and not know it, but that doesn't seem to do much if they are exposed to the delta variant.

All I know is I am fully vaccinated and so is everybody I care about. I can go back to avoiding the over abundance of idiots around me for a few months come October.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-22 10:33 PM | Reply

How about:

Locally worse in Republican run states, nationally the death toll is about the same.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-06-22 10:46 PM | Reply

#22 | Posted by kwrx25

"Nothing" about it other than everything.

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-06-23 08:16 AM | Reply

#16 | Posted by FSUknowit

98% on Death. There are plenty of other bad outcomes that run in the 10% of cases range - heart issues, hearing issues, lung issues, taste/smell issues. Many of these are going to be lifelong. Not sure how old you are but how many years would you like to go with: carrying around oxygen, having everything you eat taste funny or not at all or tinnitus ringing in your ear?

#30 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-06-23 08:19 AM | Reply

OK everyone...back in the bunker...

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-06-23 02:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So then, those of us with the shot should be ok?

#32 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-06-23 10:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#32 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL

Stupid doesn't even begin to address your deficiencies :)

#33 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-06-23 10:44 PM | Reply

OK everyone...back in the bunker...

Or ... wear a mask. Get vaccinated. Stop hyperventilating that not being able to eat at Crapplebees is you losing your freedom.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2021-06-23 11:20 PM | Reply

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