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Tuesday, July 06, 2021

More than 125 campers and adults who attended a summer camp run by a South Texas church have tested positive for coronavirus, according to a statement from Clear Creek Community Church Lead Pastor Bruce Wesley.

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6th through 12th graders.

They're just lucky it wasn't an outbreak of the seasonal flu.

Seasonal flu is two to three times as deadly to people in that age group.

#1 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-07-06 03:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Across the pond, long-COVID is a rising concern for young folk...

'Long Covid' Will Surge Among Young, England's Chief Medic Warns
www.bloomberg.com

...So-called long Covid is set to soar among younger people in England when remaining coronavirus restrictions are lifted, England's chief medical officer warned.

Chris Whitty said that while he expected deaths to be "much lower" proportionally compared to previous waves, long Covid remains "a worry."....



#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-07-06 03:56 PM | Reply

They're just lucky it wasn't an outbreak of the seasonal flu.

Seasonal flu is two to three times as deadly to people in that age group.

#1 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT

Has to be irony.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-06 05:51 PM | Reply

And the lesson is do not demand of God what should be begged for in humility.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2021-07-06 05:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is a disaster. Someone or several someones is criminally negligent. If someone dies, it's murder.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-06 06:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If these kids were atheists they would not be sick. Since they are not, they are doubly sick.

#6 | Posted by Brennnn at 2021-07-06 06:01 PM | Reply

God must be mad at them.

I see Madbomber is still an idiot when it comes to COVID.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2021-07-06 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Their imaginary middle-eastern gawd will take care of them.

I can't wait to see the covid #'s on the 18th.

Then we'll probably see the July 4th uptick.

And all these un-vaccinated folk will continue to deny it even exists...

#8 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2021-07-06 07:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The common cold kills more in 100 years than Covid did last year. - Crankyshortfuse

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-06 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Gawd's will.
Be done.
~ Gawd

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-07-07 07:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thoughts and prayers

#11 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-07-07 11:56 AM | Reply

"I see Madbomber is still an idiot when it comes to COVID."

Why is that?

I'm just repeating the CDC's numbers.

#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-07-07 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Mudbummer. What a tool. Dude can't be serious or civil. He's America's Best in action.

#13 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-07-07 12:44 PM | Reply

"Dude can't be serious or civil."

Really?

You think I was uncivil?

And again...not my numbers. CDC numbers.

Whether they're serious or not I can't say.

#14 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-07-07 01:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I'm just repeating the CDC's numbers.

#12 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Tell me the last seasonal influenza virus that did long lasting, if not permanent, damage to multiple organ systems.

You've been told countless times death is just one metric. And not even the best one. Yet you persist in focusing only on that.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2021-07-07 01:58 PM | Reply

"Tell me the last seasonal influenza virus that did long lasting, if not permanent, damage to multiple organ systems."

Well...this article is from 2018:

"You probably know by now some of the major reasons you should get your flu shot this and every year: More than 80,000 people died from the flu last year in the United States, including many otherwise healthy children and young adults. And while the shot doesn't offer 100% protection against the virus, it's certainly better than nothing. Even if you do get sick, being vaccinated reduces your risk of getting a severe case of the flu and winding up in the hospital. It also makes it less likely that you'll pass the flu onto others.

But there's another, lesser known argument for getting the flu shot, and for taking other precautions against influenza, as well: The flu isn't just a health risk for the seven days or so that you're physically sick with the virus"it can also have some lasting effects that could affect your health for weeks, months, or even permanently."

www.health.com

"You've been told countless times death is just one metric. And not even the best one. Yet you persist in focusing only on that."

No. Not really. You just keep insisting that COVID is somehow different from the seasonal flu with regards to long-term effects. And focusing on the long-term effects as why we should be more afraid...and why COVID is so much different than seasonal flu. For most...it's not.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-07-07 02:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

You just keep insisting that COVID is somehow different from the seasonal flu with regards to long-term effects.

Because it is.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Evidence from the first study of long covid in children suggests that more than half of children aged between 6 and 16 years old who contract the virus have at least one symptom lasting more than 120 days, with 42.6 per cent impaired by these symptoms during daily activities. These interim results are based on periodic assessments of 129 children in Italy who were diagnosed with covid-19 between March and November 2020 at the Gemelli University Hospital in Rome (medRxiv, doi.org/fv9t).

The UK Office for National Statistics's latest report estimates that 12.9 per cent of UK children aged 2 to 11, and 14.5 per cent of children aged 12 to 16, still have symptoms five weeks after their first infection. Almost 500,000 UK children have tested positive for covid-19 since March 2020.

Long term effects from influenza are rare and usually restricted to children with pre-existing pulmonary and cardiac issues.

Again, you're not making a remotely appropriate comparison. COVID isn't "the flu" no matter how hard you try to make it so.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2021-07-07 03:34 PM | Reply

"I don't care if it rains or freezes, as long as I've got my plastic Geebus"--the Grateful Dead...

In other news: radical evangelical and fundamentalist faith, directly
linked to shorter lifespans...

;D

#18 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-07-08 06:36 AM | Reply

From the article: "Of 57 cases reported to the Galveston health authority, six people were breakthrough cases, the agency said, defining them as becoming infected more than 14 days after their second vaccination."

So 10% were vaccinated but were infected anyway. Be interesting to expand the report to all reported infections, and how people vaccinated fared compared to the group. Same with symbology. Viral load etc. IOW is it beneficial, and can you prove it.

#19 | Posted by JustHank at 2021-07-08 02:35 PM | Reply

"IOW is it beneficial, and can you prove it."

Data like this might offer the beginnings of proof:

In Maryland, every person who died of Covid-19 in June was unvaccinated. That's not an aberration, experts say

Last month, 130 people died of Covid-19 in Maryland. None of them were vaccinated, according to Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan.

In addition, unvaccinated people made up 95% of new Covid-19 cases in the state and 93% of new Covid-19 hospitalizations, Hogan said at a news conference Wednesday.

The connection between vaccination status and Covid-19 is not specific to Maryland and is not limited to last month, medical experts have said.


www.cnn.com

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-07-08 09:11 PM | Reply

@20

"www.dailymail.co.uk"Daily Mail"

"...American authorities have yet another variant to pound the alarm about: researchers in California have discovered the epsilon variant, which features a "triple mutation" on the spike protein that the virus uses to infect humans, making it (in theory) more infectious, according to the Daily Mail.

"This isn't the first time scientists have discovered a so-called "triple variant". Scientists in India have isolated variants with "double" and "triple" mutations.

"Researchers say both types of the variant have the ability to evade the neutralizing antibodies found in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, which are the most widely used jabs in the US."

**********************

So Pfizer announced they are working on a 3rd shot.

Past is not prologue. IOW that was then and this is now. Apparently the strain emerging in Missouri is this new variant. The report on these kids who went to bible camp said that 6 of the 56 who developed an infection were already vaccinated. Plus the developed symptoms after they were back home. So if the new strain is more transmissible then they probably didn't get it at camp.

I also followed up on a link from RawStory posted here. They report the fire chief saying the hospitals are overwhelmed but I can't find a local source to Springfield Missouri that backs that up including one that quotes the chief.

So it's clickbait and people here are chomping down and swallowing the crap whole. Bon apptit

#21 | Posted by JustHank at 2021-07-08 11:08 PM | Reply

Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, runs out of ventilators as COVID cases ravage the area
www.kansascity.com

Springfield-Greene Co. Health Dept. announces 17 new COVID-19 deaths as cases, hospitalizations rise
www.ky3.com

Missouri leads nation with most new COVID-19 cases per capita over past two weeks
www.ky3.com

Seems legit to me.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-07-08 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I also followed up on a link from RawStory posted here. They report the fire chief saying the hospitals are overwhelmed but I can't find a local source to Springfield Missouri that backs that up including one that quotes the chief."

Here's a link that says 15 weren't vaccinated, 1 had received one dose of the vaccine and the medical history of 1 could not be confirmed:

Most recent COVID deaths in Springfield area weren't vaccinated. Is it a warning sign?

Springfield-area health officials said at least 15 of the 17 Greene County residents who recently died of COVID-19 were not vaccinated.

One of the people had received the first dose of the vaccine months ago, but never received the second dose, said Aaron Schekorra, the public health information administrator for the Springfield-Greene County Health Department.

One person's vaccination history could not be confirmed, since they weren't listed in the state database. The other 15 had not received the vaccine at all.


www.kansascity.com

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-07-09 12:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm guessing authorities are considering the person who wasn't fully vaccinated as being unvaccinated and assuming the person who didn't show up in the state database wasn't vaccinated:

Seventeen people died in the latest two-week reporting period in the county that surrounds Springfield, the most since January. None were vaccinated, authorities said.

apnews.com

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-07-09 12:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Raw Story quoted the FIRE CHIEF. The only article I could find him quoted was about how the fire department is requiring vaccinations.

So Rawstory made up the quote.

"the Springfield metropolitan area, which has a population of 462,369"
duckduckgo.com

"Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, runs out of ventilators as COVID cases ravage the area"

17 people in a metro that size? You don't think that's hyperbole?

Same with the bible camp. The covit cases started after the kids came home. But who can resist a stab at some Christian teenagers?

#25 | Posted by JustHank at 2021-07-09 06:38 AM | Reply

"Raw Story quoted the FIRE CHIEF. The only article I could find him quoted was about how the fire department is requiring vaccinations.
So Rawstory made up the quote."

Unless he was one of the "authorities" cited in the AP article I linked to?

"17 people in a metro that size? You don't think that's hyperbole?"

Authorities in MO, Pennington being one of them, are looking at more than just the number of covid deaths:

In Missouri, meanwhile, the Springfield area has been hit so hard that one hospital had to borrow ventilators over the Fourth of July weekend and begged on social media for help from respiratory therapists, several of whom volunteered from other states. Members of a new federal "surge response team" also began arriving to help suppress the outbreak.

Missouri not only leads the nation in new cases relative to the population, it is also averaging 1,000 cases per day " about the same number as the entire Northeast, including the big cities in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.

California, with 40 million people, is posting only slightly higher case numbers than Missouri, which has a population of 6 million.

Northeastern states have seen cases, deaths and hospitalizations plummet to almost nothing amid widespread acceptance of the Covid-19 vaccine.

Vermont has gone 26 days with new case numbers in single digits. In Maryland, the governor's office said every death recorded in June was in an unvaccinated person. New York City, which was the lethal epicenter of the U.S. outbreak in the spring of 2020, when the number of dead peaked at over 800 a day, regularly goes entire days with no reported deaths.


www.nbcnews.com

Springfield Fire Chief David Pennington lamented the worsening situation in a tweet.

"This is a mass casualty event, happening in slow-motion," he said. "EMS resources are depleted, and the hospital systems are overwhelmed. Our community is in crisis."
www.seattletimes.com

Here's the tweet:
twitter.com

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-07-09 07:11 AM | Reply

"Same with the bible camp. The covit cases started after the kids came home. But who can resist a stab at some Christian teenagers?"

I haven't followed the Bible camp story. As I mentioned recently, I have unvaccinated extended family in the Branson area, one of whom is a 75 year old smoker, so I have followed what's happening in MO more closely.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-07-09 07:16 AM | Reply

FTR, I don't think covid is done with the NE. I hope I'm wrong but based on what I've read about what's happening in the UK and Israel, I expect to see cases spike again in NY as the Delta variant spreads (although not as badly as in previous waves).

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-07-09 07:35 AM | Reply

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