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Tuesday, July 13, 2021

Stephen Collinson, CNN: They're trying to save democracy by walking out on it. Texas state lawmakers, enacting an intricately plotted escape, left their posts and the Lone Star state itself and took flight to Washington on Monday on an extraordinary mission to halt Republican restrictive voting bills built on former President Donald Trump's fraud lies.

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Oh, right. You're the idiot who doesn't know what democracy is.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-13 06:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Filibuster engaged.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2021-07-13 06:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"the people's decision"
Really?
Major headline fail.
Thx for the yuks.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-07-13 07:23 AM | Reply

The Texas Rangers are charged with finding and arresting them anywhere within the state and bringing them to the Capitol to attend to their obligation.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-07-13 09:12 AM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Not the first time this has happened.

www.voanews.com

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-13 09:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is an example of fighting the Republicans the way the Republicans fight America.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-13 09:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Gov. Abbott, the evil little point man for voter suppression, helped kill 700+ Texans during the Great Freeze and undoubtedly thousands more through feckless handling of COVID.

Ar a certain point, good men stop paying attention to bastards like that.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-13 09:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

GFY Boaz. You only care about the will of the people when it gives you what you want.

Otherwise you're perfectly fine ignoring it.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2021-07-13 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Again JPW,

Stop talking about me and address the subject of the thread.

I can only assume you know the actions of these Democrats are gutless, since you are avoiding the topic..

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2021-07-13 12:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

I can only assume you know the actions of these Democrats are gutless

#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Governor Abbott is a yapping little Chihuahua. No guts were needed. But any action that slows you fascists down is welcomed and appreciated.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-13 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I can only assume you know the actions of these Democrats are gutless,
#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Seems like a strategic move.

Only an idiot runs head first into a rigged game.

As far as, "the people's decision"

It's literally the opposite of what's being done.

" ... in order to prevent a series of new, restrictive voting laws from becoming law ... "

Restrictive voting laws, literally the opposite of "the will of the people."

Unless you believe restrictive voting laws are good.

Unless you believe democracy is bad.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-07-13 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

Some people would say this is just the opposition party acting as the opposition

But that was then and this is now

- - the "principled conservative".

#13 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-07-13 12:42 PM | Reply

www.oregonlive.com (what is the temp again today?)

www.kdrv.com

Guess those guys were gutless too?

Sad that the extreme elements of both sides somehow represent the rest of us.

#14 | Posted by Lohocla at 2021-07-13 01:35 PM | Reply

- gutless

Would not be the people standing on principle, even to their own personal risk. OTOH, it takes very little guts to do things like passing laws that benefit your political party, whether it be gerrymandering or restrictive voting laws.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2021-07-13 06:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Let's talk about Democrats walking out in Texas....

Beau of the Fifth Column

www.youtube.com

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2021-07-13 07:22 PM | Reply

The Alamo t-shirt was perfect.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-13 07:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Weekly Skews 7/13/21 " All My Flexes Live in Texas

Tonight, former root-tootin' Texan Smart Mark lays out all the latest Lone Star political drama for us. Not to be outdone, Trae also spends some time goin in on the recent ----------- from his beloved Tennessee. All that and more on the Skews, so join us!

www.youtube.com

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2021-07-13 08:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I can only assume you know the actions of these Democrats are gutless, since you are avoiding the topic..

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2021-07-13 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:
| Funny: 1

Poor old Bozo, too dumb to recognize that this is EXACTLY what Moscow Mitch and the GQP did to the Obama agenda and is currently doing to the Biden agenda. This was a brilliant piece of strategy by the TX Dems, on the first occasion, the GQP tried to ram the bill through without letting the Dems read it, and shocker, the Dems found language that would have allowed partisan actors to overturn legal elections with which they disagreed, and would have killed Sunday morning voting directly targeting Souls to the Polls. It was so confounding to the "authors" of the bill to find that language, who could have put that in there? Perhaps Heritage Action the far reich partisan group that has been authoring ALL these voter suppression bills around the country. The Dems move got great media attention and put a spotlight on the GQP BS like never before. It also puts tremendous pressure on Manchin and Sinema to do SOMETHING like a filibuster carve-out for constitutional protections, the way Moscow Mitch did for unqualified partisan judges. If the shoe was on the other foot, Moscow Mitch would ditch the filibuster in a nanosecond.

#19 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-07-13 08:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

They are representing the people. Texas is so strategically gerrymandered it isn't funny.

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-07-13 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I advertise all my gutless actions in the news and on Facebook.

#21 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2021-07-13 10:56 PM | Reply

these Democrats are gutless,
#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Go gargle disinfectant traitor.

It took guts money and planning and they went to the right place. You want to fight? Well ... the fight is on.

You want to undermine the vote? Well we won't vote on that!

I am loving it.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-14 12:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Seems in Texas the will of the people was to elect enough democrats to derail radical right wingers plans.
Can't wait until Texas goes blue ... shouldn't be too much longer.

#23 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-07-14 08:22 AM | Reply

503jc69

"Can't wait until Texas goes blue ... shouldn't be too much longer."

It's been teetering on the brink for years, getting closer every election cycle. Thus the panic suppression bills and Trump's maniacal hysteria.

#24 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-07-14 09:37 AM | Reply

Why do liberal democrats think minorities are stupid? I have met thousands of minorities in my adult life and not one of them did have an ID or know how to obtain one. I find it very sad that liberals think so little of minorities that they think they are not smart enough to get an ID.

#25 | Posted by djohnson2052 at 2021-07-14 09:56 AM | Reply

I meant not one of them DIDN'T have an ID card*

#26 | Posted by djohnson2052 at 2021-07-14 09:57 AM | Reply

This is an example of fighting the Republicans the way the Republicans fight America.

#7 | POSTED BY ZED

Yup.

And it is about time.

I am very proud of them. If you want to help them send them $5.

They already have ~$400k in donations but it is an easy way to show your support. They will need that money because they may have to stay there until September I hear.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-14 09:58 AM | Reply

I have met thousands of minorities in my adult life and not one of them did have an ID or know how to obtain one.

#25 | POSTED BY DJOHNSON2052

You really expect us to believe that you've asked thousands of random people if they have an ID card?

"Hello, I'm Ted."

"Hello Ted, I'm DJohnson. Nice to meet you. By the way, do have an ID card or know how to obtain one?"

#28 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2021-07-14 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I meant not one of them DIDN'T have an ID card*

#26 | POSTED BY DJOHNSON2052

Someone told you to say this.

Liar.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-14 12:53 PM | Reply

"I have met thousands of minorities in my adult life and not one of them (didn't) have an ID"

Have you met any elderly, born in rural areas via midwives?

My late MIL had macular degeneration, and hadn't driven in a decade when I met her ~23 years ago. Her state-issued voter ID, aka her driver's license, was long expired. I handled her paperwork over the last 6-7 years when she lived with the bride and me, and over all that time, I never saw a birth certificate. Nor did she ever need a valid photo ID; I'd set up absentee voting when she moved in. I also made sure she filed and paid her taxes every year.

Some folks would deny her the right to vote.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-14 01:00 PM | Reply

#30 - midwives are required by law to register births which they attended, regardless of location.

#31 | Posted by jakester at 2021-07-14 01:28 PM | Reply

I can only assume you know the actions of these Democrats are gutless, since you are avoiding the topic..

#10 | Posted by boaz

Your gutless party is the one that can't face the voters or compete on a level playing field.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-14 01:39 PM | Reply

I have met thousands of minorities in my adult life and not one of them did have an ID

#25 | Posted by djohnson2052

You've spent your life asking thousands of minorities to show you their ID card?

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-14 01:40 PM | Reply

We've had posters here who swear to know the political party affiliation of everyone they know who got COVID.

#36 | Posted by eberly

No one can honestly swear they know for sure. But good gamblers know a solid bet when they see one. There's a reason biden got vaccinated in public and trump did it in secret.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-14 01:55 PM | Reply

I.D. is a small issue that could be solved with nationwide I.D. but the republicans don't want that.

My problem is the changes to allow partisan state legislators to throw out the people's vote if they " feel" fraud has occurred... the problem is your claiming fraud now without any evidence.

The more people who get to vote, the less radical right wingers get into office... ergo voter restrictions in almost every state run by republicans... disgusting.

#38 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-07-14 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#30 - midwives are required by law to register births which they attended, regardless of location.

The issue is that, and we have documented over 175,000 cases in the Carolinas alone IIRC, the names given aren't spelled the same or the documentation later created doesn't match, or the documentation is never filed - leaving many thousands unable to get the right documentation together to get a "Real ID." It's a clusterf**k.

It's also 100% intentional. Here's some stuff that's not too long you can read and get a sense of what's going on, what people face, and why:

www.npr.org
www.npr.org

By all estimates, those least likely to have a government-issued photo ID fall into one of four categories: the elderly, minorities, the poor and young adults aged 18 to 24. The Brennan Center estimates that 18 percent of all seniors and 25 percent of African-Americans don't have picture IDs.
www.npr.org

#39 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-14 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#38 throwing another "newsworthy" at ya, though it won't register.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-14 03:09 PM | Reply

"#38 throwing another "newsworthy" at ya, though it won't register."

I'll do it for you YAV.

#41 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-07-14 03:29 PM | Reply

#41 - Thanks TwinPac!

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-14 06:10 PM | Reply

What happened to the pictures of the beer and the private jet they traveled on?

#35 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2021-07-14 01:45 PM | REPLY | FLAG

They all got deleted because they weren't wearing masks, and fake doctor had a hemorrhaging vagina, so everything had to be recalled.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-07-14 10:05 PM | Reply

#43 - What is this non-stop idiocy of constantly droning on about "fake doctor" when you are addressing JPW? I'm comfortable that he's demonstrated considerable knowledge and understanding of virology to substantiate his bone fides. He's laid his work out, none of which included him saying he was a Doctor.

I suspect you are using "Doctor" in a medical sense as well, which is rather comical.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-14 10:38 PM | Reply

The Texas bill is a voter suppression effort being carried out by the GOP because they recognize that Texas is no longer a red state. The GOP attorney admitted as much when he discussed blocking mailing ballots to voters.

"Harris County mail-in ballots that they wanted to send out were 2.5 million...We would've been one of those battleground states that they were counting votes in Harris County for three days and Donald Trump would've lost the election."

www.newsweek.com

Republicans hate democracy

#45 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-07-15 12:07 AM | Reply

JOHNNY

"Republicans hate democracy"

When it doesn't work in their favor. Trump, in his second term, was supposed to deliver the decisive death blow to democracy which would eliminate the threat of losing their seat of power forever.

Their plan for an instant autocracy suffered a terrible setback when the will of the people decided otherwise. So the next step was to eliminate the will of the people which is what we're seeing in progress, state by state, right now.

If the Republican Party is allowed to succeed, 2024 will be the last time we'll ever see democracy in America again. It's won't be a pretty picture. Executions of their political enemies never is. That's how dictatorships work.

#46 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-07-15 02:46 AM | Reply

I HAVE personally asked thousands of minorities to show a state ID and have encountered about 5 people who truly did not have one. Some didn't carry it or had lost their ID, but I could verify the record via computer In particular, virtually all "poor" people have state ID, because you can't get government services or medical care without one. A bank account is necessary to function in a digital economy. A birth certificate has been required for school attendance for decades.

Don't have/can't get ID is BS. If that were true we should be helping people get ID, so they can access other services, not using them as pawns in the voter fraud debate.

The media tracks down obscure stories like 95 year old Lilian in rural South Carolina, a sharecroppers daughter born in a tarpaper shack she lives in to this day. Can't get a birth certificate without paying $300 in court costs. Doesn't have a deed either so she can't get a permit to fix her leaky roof. Fifteen reporters will fly in from NY to interview Lilian, but nobody will give her $300 so she can get an ID, which could help her get housing assistance and medical care. Actually Helping victims ruins the narrative. Need to keep Lilian in her place for the next election cycle.

Danforth also frequently brings up his MIL as an example. Lived 23 years with no ID. Blind and couldn't go anywhere because she couldn't walk. He handles all her affairs and voted absentee for her. Only saw her "regular doctors" who knew her for 23 years. I don't buy that. My doctors know me too, but still require a photocopy of my ID and insurance card every year to update records. If Danforth had bothered to help her get her ID renewed, maybe he could have taken her to specialists, physical therapy or an Imaging center who could have given her life changing care, and an opportunity for some independence.

#47 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-07-15 08:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#47
NEWSWORTHY +10

#48 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-07-15 09:01 AM | Reply

Don't have/can't get ID is BS.

The easiest way to get the GqP to drop the insane Voter ID canard is to have Biden come out and announce a National Voter ID card program for every American free of charge. Immediately --- Noise will decry it as BIG GUBMINT OUT OF CONTROL wanting to control everyone's identity.

Problem solved.

#49 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-07-15 09:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't buy that

Because it doesn't FIT YOUR NARRATIVE.

#50 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-07-15 09:29 AM | Reply

"This is an example of fighting the Republicans the way the Republicans fight America."

Which proves you are hypocrites beyond any doubt. If it's bad when Reps do it, then it's bad when Dems do it. If you really think it's a bad practice and should not be done, then don't freaking do it. It's incredibly easy to understand.

#52 | Posted by humtake at 2021-07-15 09:54 AM | Reply

The are also holding up their Democratic legislation. They are cutting off their nose to spite their face. I wonder how their constituents feel about that? It seems silly to me.

#54 | Posted by jakester at 2021-07-15 10:17 AM | Reply

It seems silly to me.

#54 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

You expect to be able to vote.

#56 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-15 10:26 AM | Reply

#52 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 202

You're a Trumpite who hypocritically rants about hypocrisy.

Get a brain; get a soul. Get something approximating mortality and principles. Be a human being rather than what you currently practice to be.

#57 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-15 10:29 AM | Reply

"Get something approximating mortality"

Actually, I meant "morality". But I'll accept the Freudian slip.

#58 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-15 10:30 AM | Reply

"The are also holding up their Democratic legislation. They are cutting off their nose to spite their face. I wonder how their constituents feel about that? It seems silly to me."

They're holding up 1 thing that I know of, and compared to what they are fighting, I'm 100% good with it. I applaud these Democrats. I am so glad for them and the actions they have taken!

100% with them. Period.

#59 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-15 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#55 - you are correct. I know for a fact that their Republican opponents are going to make sure that picture is seen by everyone during the next campaign. This will erode the chances of the Democratic legislators in the picture of being re-elected.

I hope it was good beer and an enjoyable flight. It could cost Democrats a lot.

#60 | Posted by jakester at 2021-07-15 10:49 AM | Reply

#59 - I agree with your sentiment, but I am disappointed that these legislators chose to turn a worthy fight into a beer and chartered jet party. That was extremely callous, not to mention stupid.

#61 | Posted by jakester at 2021-07-15 10:58 AM | Reply

" Only saw her "regular doctors" who knew her for 23 years. I don't buy that."

Frankly, truth doesn't care whether you believe it or not. I've stated facts.

You're stuck with pretending it's a lie, which makes you look like a clueless fool.

Why is the truth so inconvenient to you?

#62 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-15 12:04 PM | Reply

" maybe he could have taken her to specialists, physical therapy or an Imaging center who could have given her life changing care, and an opportunity for some independence."

I did.

They didn't require a current photo ID.

You're still stuck with making up lies.

#63 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-15 12:06 PM | Reply

Nixon,
Why would a "national ID" be any better or easier to get than a state ID? They are already free in many states and under $20 everywhere except a handful of BLUE states. California, NewJersey, Oregon, Go figure.

Maybe a bill for the federal govt to subsidize state aid costs. Way more cost effective than creating a huge new program.

#64 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-07-15 12:17 PM | Reply

"Why would a "national ID" be any better or easier to get than a state ID?"

Because you could get one at any Post Office, and it would be free, and it would prove your status as an American citizen in every state.

Which is three strikes against the Republican voters suppression agenda based on state issued voter ID.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:22 PM | Reply

"Maybe a bill for the federal govt to subsidize state aid costs. Way more cost effective than creating a huge new program."

Bull----.
Subsidizing 50 programs is far more costly than paying for one.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:23 PM | Reply

No because it is duplicating an existing program that works fine I've already got a drivers license, do I need to get a National ID too? Unless you want to let the post office handle drivers licensing too.

#67 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-07-15 12:34 PM | Reply

"No because it is duplicating an existing program that works fine"

Bull----

There is no free national ID in America.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:38 PM | Reply

"I've already got a drivers license, do I need to get a National ID too?"

If you're so provincial you never plan on visiting another country, you do not.

Regardless, a national ID would make it much harder for Republicans to use voter ID to disenfranchise people. Which is why Republicans oppose it.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:40 PM | Reply

Danforth,
What lies have I told?

As to your MIL, my recollection from previous threads was that she did not possess a photo ID at all, and was never asked for one. That I don't believe. Reading back in this thread, you qualify that with "current", so zi suppose you are saying she had an expired DL to present when asked? That is different. In that case none of the voter ID bills on The table ( as far as I know) would prevent people like her from voting. An expired state DL or ID card is accepted. It doesn't have to be current or valid.

#70 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-07-15 12:53 PM | Reply

"As to your MIL, my recollection from previous threads was that she did not possess a photo ID at all, and was never asked for one. That I don't believe.'

Why can't you believe she wasn't asked for ID, when ID wasn't a requirement?
???

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:57 PM | Reply

"An expired state DL or ID card is accepted. It doesn't have to be current or valid."

Then what's the point of the law?

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:59 PM | Reply

"What lies have I told? "

That somehow, my MIL must've had some valid state photo ID, and she couldn't have survived without it.

"my recollection from previous threads was that she did not possess a photo ID at all, and was never asked for one. That I don't believe."

As I've pointed out, your awareness of what's true doesn't alter what's true. I handled all her paper in the last 7 years, after sifting through everything. She never had a valid state photo ID. She didn't have a birth certificate either.

"In that case none of the voter ID bills on The table ( as far as I know) would prevent people like her from voting"

And....there we have it again, folks! The Suppressionists central lie: An additional barrier to voting isn't really an additional barrier to voting.

#73 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-15 01:27 PM | Reply

"An expired state DL or ID card is accepted. It doesn't have to be current or valid."

That's not true. I'm going to post examples on the ranges on limits to show how they vary from state to state, below.

The term "ID card" is way too general and has to be dismissed out of hand without specificity.

Examples of states requiring photo ID to vote, and the range of acceptable expiration periods, most generous to least:
Tennessee - no limit
sos.tn.gov
Georgia - no limit sos.ga.gov
Indiana - no older than the last general election date. www.in.gov
Wisconsin - no older than the last general election date. wisconsindot.gov
Arkansas - no more than 4 years www.sos.arkansas.gov
Mississippi - no more than 10 years. www.sos.ms.gov
Kansas - prohibited. Must be current. sos.ks.gov

#74 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-15 01:29 PM | Reply

"(I) suppose you are saying she had an expired DL to present when asked? "

No.

I found it when it was ten years expired, so I tossed it. NO ONE accepted expired IDs back then.

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-15 01:30 PM | Reply

The Suppressionists central lie: An additional barrier to voting isn't really an additional barrier to voting.

This SCOTUS decision was beyond belief, IMHO. Stunning in how corrupt and political SCOTUS is.

#76 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-15 01:31 PM | Reply

"Stunning in how corrupt and political SCOTUS is."

Alito referring to "fraud" was insulting.

The Heritage Foundation's compendium makes three things clear: One, most of the "voter fraud" convictions over the last two decades were either canvassers, cullers, or counters. Two, once those are removed, convictions average one per state, every two years. And three, not a single one of these crimes would've been thwarted by a photo ID.

#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-15 01:47 PM | Reply

#77 - Absolutely horrible. So completely ridiculous.

#78 | Posted by YAV at 2021-07-15 01:51 PM | Reply

"But the anecdotal evidence being thrown out (Danforth's late MIL for example).......are these bills requiring an ID going to prevent enough people from voting that it's going to impact the results of an election?"

You're pretending the folks behind these vote suppression laws haven't run the numbers. The same people who can't find a real case of voter fraud, know EXACTLY how many X thousands of voters become ineligible with each new hurdle.

Also...remember the Florida purge?

No one could ever determine precisely how many voters who were incorrectly labeled felons were turned away from the polls. But the US Civil Rights Commission launched a major investigation into the 2000 election fiasco, and its acting general counsel, Edward Hailes, did the math the best that he could. If 12,000 voters were wrongly purged from the rolls, and 44 percent of them were African-American, and 90 percent of African-Americans voted for Gore, that meant 4,752 black Gore voters"almost nine times Bush's margin of victory"could have been prevented from voting. It's not a stretch to conclude that the purge cost Gore the election. "We did think it was outcome-determinative," Hailes said.
www.thenation.com

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-07-15 01:59 PM | Reply

If inco cho can send everyone $1400, he can DAYUM sure send everyone a valid gubmint issued ID. If he really wanted to.

#80 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-07-15 02:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Pf off, ------.

#81 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-15 05:24 PM | Reply

"he can DAYUM sure send everyone a valid gubmint issued ID. If he really wanted to."

If you would read The Constitution, you would know why you're wrong.

But you won't.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 10:55 PM | Reply

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