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Tuesday, July 13, 2021

Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West. But after years of an unrelenting drought that has quickly accelerated amid record temperatures and lower snowpack melt, the lake is set to mark another, more dire turning point. Next month, the federal government expects to declare its first-ever shortage on the lake, triggering cuts to water delivered to Arizona, Nevada and Mexico on Jan. 1.



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Absolutely nuts how some of these communities waste their resources. Green lawns as far as the eye can see in the middle of the desert. To top it all off, solar power is almost untouched.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2021-07-13 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe building cities and giant farms in the desert wasn't a good idea.

#2 | Posted by qcp at 2021-07-13 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A friend who lives in central Phoenix still gets 'federal water' delivered via ditches, pipeline and sluices, from the days when his neighborhood was all citrus groves. Apparently the water source runs with the land, despite having no true agricultural benefit (yes, some folks in the area still have the odd orange or lemon tree, but they ain't farmers). The friend agreed that the reasons for the water delivery 'dried up' long ago. This should be the first thing shut off, if it hasn't been already...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2021-07-13 05:07 PM | Reply


Actually our entire neighborhood is turning to xeriscapes. Considering Lake Mead is between Nevada and Arizona, it's pretty infuriating that we are the ones getting cuts. I know California pays more for our water, but it's our damn lake!

#4 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-07-13 05:46 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by catdog

Laws and Contracts. I'm not saying it shouldn't go away but there are some really old, antiquated and should have been changed long ago things about Water Rights. They are the most bizarre thing out west. California has huge issues in this area as well - Farmers pumping aquifers so low the land recedes feet every year, water rights based on 100+ year old idiotic rules and such. So does Colorado for that matter.

It is one of the great things about living in Michigan...

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-07-13 05:54 PM | Reply

PNW coast has all the water we could want.

#6 | Posted by bored at 2021-07-13 08:06 PM | Reply

That's what you say now. A few more summers with 121 degree temps and we'll see.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-13 10:23 PM | Reply

#4 oh Bocaink, you sorry soul. Lake Mead barely dips into Nevada. I was there 5 hours ago.

Anyway it's about the river not the lake. California has a huge border with it.

#8 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-07-13 10:44 PM | Reply


Et tu' BruteAZ?

#9 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-07-14 12:37 AM | Reply

In CA we grow rice and almonds. *Rice*

And the state wants us in the cities to cut back on our water use. How about they have a chat with the ------ rice and almond farmers first.

#10 | Posted by dibblda at 2021-07-14 01:07 AM | Reply

PNW coast has all the water we could want.

I'm actually surprised California hasn't started buying it.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-07-14 01:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I left Phoenix about thirty years ago, having lived in a home just off upper Central Ave. that got that irrigation water. It was amazing. Hordes of mammoth red cockroaches would materialize, scrambling to get above water level. But those citrus trees! In the middle of the desert, surrounded by Hohokam ruins, water running looser than a goose. Madness.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-07-14 06:55 AM | Reply

BOCAINK can you hit me an email at

#13 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-07-14 07:40 AM | Reply

PNW has the Westerlies pushing moist Pacific air up againts the Cascades causing an abundance of rain (orographic lift). They certainly experience drought (everywhere does) but the area is basically the only place in the west that likely won't experience water shortages. At least as long as atmospheric currents remain intact.

But further inland (eastern WA/OR southern Idaho) is much drier and hotter (rain shadow). The lack of rain causes less erosion which contributes to the plateau.

The Rockies create similar features, with wetter areas on the windward side and dry plateaus on the leeward side, although to a lesser extent than the Cascades.

Just FYI :)

#14 | Posted by horstngraben at 2021-07-14 08:51 AM | Reply

Lake Mead recently dropped 30' in 10 months.

PIC: Before and after - Aug 10, 2020 vs June 35, 2021

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-07-15 12:25 AM | Reply

"Anyway it's about the river not the lake."

If it's about the river, then it belongs to Arizona.

California has an ocean. Unlimited water.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-07-15 12:37 AM | Reply

If you want water, Louisiana and Mississippi have plenty. More than they know what to do with.

So move there.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-07-15 12:40 AM | Reply

If it is water that flows to a body of water then the corps of engineers has control of it. We live on the Mississippi river and they often pop up seemingly out of no nowhere to instruct people what can and cannot be done on "their" lands. No, they don't have maps demarking. More like they were granted overly broad sweeping power long ago.

#18 | Posted by visiter at 2021-07-15 07:45 AM | Reply

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