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Thursday, July 15, 2021

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a "mentally unstable" Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia's national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

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The truth is leaking out. Trump was compromised and the GOP sold out the US for rubles.

#1 | Posted by bored at 2021-07-15 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Harding's last big "expos" on Manafort holding secret talks with Assange was a flop, if not a complete fabrication.

#2 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 09:44 AM | Reply

So much for that Trump Moscow Hotel permit......

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2021-07-15 11:54 AM | Reply

This was always obvious based on his actions.
I want Biden to release all transcripts between Putin and the twice impeached washout of a former president.... and of course to see the pee pee video... its got to be hilarious.

#4 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-07-15 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm betting the pee tape is real too.

#5 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2021-07-15 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#2 ... Harding's last big "expos" on Manafort ...

Got any links? I'd be interested in reading that.

thx.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-07-15 12:02 PM | Reply

The pee tape could be real and it wouldn't change anything.

Really, you think GracieAmazed is going to change sides over a pee tape?

Facts don't matter to fascists.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Harding's last big "expos" on Manafort holding secret talks with Assange was a flop, if not a complete fabrication.

#2 | Posted by lee_the_agent

I have this trick I can do that makes trump supporters and russiagate deniers vanish from a thread. Ready? It goes like this:

All I have to do is ask you: "Why was trump's campaign manager giving trump's polling data to putin?"

And just like that - POOF! Trump supporters vanish!

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-15 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6

Pour vous, that's French. Snoof mentioned Gracie, so I felt the need to class things up.

www.theguardian.com

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 12:14 PM | Reply

#8

I'm not denying anything of the sort. I'm questioning the veracity of Harding's reporting.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 12:17 PM | Reply

Too many shadowy people have too many shadowy agendas for me to accept anything emerging from those shadows too readily. t.co

Charlie Pierce isn't a Trumper. Objectivity is a virtue.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 12:21 PM | Reply

I'm not denying anything of the sort. I'm questioning the veracity of Harding's reporting.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent

So you admit trump and putin were colluding, but you don't believe it when you hear putin wanted trump to win.

Nice pretzel. Do you have to warm up with some yoga first?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-15 12:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

@#9

Thanks for the follow-up, much appreciated.

The Guardian offered a bombshell story about Paul Manafort. It still hasn't detonated.
www.washingtonpost.com

...It seemed to be another bombshell story amid all the revelations about the investigation of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.

The Guardian newspaper reported last week that Paul Manafort, President Trump's former campaign chairman, had met with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange several times, including during a critical period in March 2016....

But one week after publication, the Guardian's bombshell looks as though it could be a dud.

No other news organization has been able to corroborate the Guardian's reporting to substantiate its central claim of a meeting. News organizations typically do such independent reporting to confirm important stories....



#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-07-15 12:23 PM | Reply

The Kremlin doesn't leak, at least not without a purpose. Or is this just a leak from Western intelligence?

Look before you leap.

#14 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 12:23 PM | Reply

Of course Putin wanted Trump to win. Putin, and enemies of America, hate Hillary Clinton. Don't be silly.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 12:25 PM | Reply

Facts don't matter to fascists.

#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 20

Yeah, but I still want tosee that pee tape.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2021-07-15 12:27 PM | Reply

Putin's Bitch was in on this effort, remember "Lock her up!" He was so absolutely thrilled that the Russians were able to gain access to DNC computers and reveal the emails which they carefully made sure only the most damaging were revealed. If you didn't recognize the collusion between Trump and Putin when they had their meeting in the Oval Office but then refused to provide any transcripts of their conversation. Most of knew before that but that one event broadcast their collusion to every American who wasn't a crazy Trump supporter.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2021-07-15 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I love how dems are constantly suckered-in to believe anything that's anti-Trump. Recommend your continue to watch CNN and MSNBC as they really need the audience - LOL

PS: GREG GUTGELD ROCKS!

#18 | Posted by MSgt at 2021-07-15 12:36 PM | Reply

I wouldn't believe this crap.

Putin probably authorized this release to make 'Murica look bad. The rabid trumptards will still drop to their knees whenever the orange sack of triglycerides opens his fat pie hole. This type of stuff coming from Russia is just designed by Putin to make both sides look bad.

It might be accurate and real, but Putin is behind it 100% to make the United States look like a bunch of fools. There are already 73,000,000 of them in the US.

This tells me that Putin knows a) Mangolini is not running in 2024 or b) he is not going to help him win. Fat Nixon could not get him back into the G8 or totally destroy NATO which were Putin's goals so Putin is done with him.

So it could be real...but is irrelevant or it could be made up by Russia to make the US look foolish.

Either way it's useless.

#19 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-07-15 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re 18

And I love how Republicans are constantly suckered into dis-believing anything that's anti-Trump. No matter the evidence.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-15 12:45 PM | Reply

"So it could be real...but is irrelevant or it could be made up by Russia to make the US look foolish."

And that's not too hard. The Republicans don't need much help making Americans look stupid.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-15 12:47 PM | Reply

Him and Pence are real lucky we don't prosecute former P's or VP's

Because the spigot is barely dripping at this point ...

#22 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2021-07-15 01:01 PM | Reply

@#10 ... I'm not denying anything of the sort. ...

I've been saying all along that a strategic goal of Pres Putin was to disrupt Western democracies, to render NATO useless.

So, along those lines, I'd proffer that the background of this story could be (and likely is) quite correct.

But a question lingers in the air like an unclaimed air biscuit --- why The Guardian?


#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-07-15 01:02 PM | Reply

Of course Putin wanted Trump to win. Putin, and enemies of America, hate Hillary Clinton. Don't be silly.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent

So why did he help trump again in 2020?

Why do you, and an "enemy of america", both want the same guy to be president of america?

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-15 01:05 PM | Reply

I love how dems are constantly suckered-in to believe anything that's anti-Trump. Recommend your continue to watch CNN and MSNBC as they really need the audience - LOL

#18 | Posted by MSgt

I love how repubs are constantly suckered-in to NOT beleive anything that's anti trump.

Remember when he said he never paid stormy daniels and it was the fake news and you believed him?

Quick question - why was trump's campaign manager giving trump's polling data to putin?

(this is the part where you run away)

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-15 01:07 PM | Reply

Call me skeptical of the claims in the article. Something like this doesn't come out of Russia without Vlad allowing it--he shoots leakers, along with their wives and girlfriends. Were it true, the oaf has so desensitized his mouth-breathing horde of followers that nearly none of them will believe this revelation, and fewer will care.

As for any videotapes, if released Trump supporters would see those in a positive light, either thinking (1) the guy is a real man for letting Russian hookers do that to him, or (2) the ladies watching will be envious of Russian hookers who got into the same room as their anointed savior and got to do 'hanky panky' with him.

The worst damage Diamond Joe can do to Trump would be to release any and all transcripts of the oaf's conversations with his uncle Vlad. If there is any self-dealing, treachery, villainy or treason recorded, airing such will cause some GOPers to run the other way, and will force many more to simply keep their mouths shut when asked about their support for 45 the crook. A decision on such a release will not be made before 4Q2023...

#26 | Posted by catdog at 2021-07-15 01:10 PM | Reply

Great! Now if they could just prove a direct connection between Putin and Trump.. .. the Q-MAGAt's still wouldn't believe it.

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-07-15 01:30 PM | Reply

About as I assumed that it would be.

Sad. Pathetic. That he actually HELD the
Office. And now his Brown Shirt Lackeys
seek to repeat his reign of terror.

Don't go to sleep on us military. We
may need you to finally make a decision,
and soon...

#28 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-07-15 01:47 PM | Reply

75 million Americans will soon come to believe this report leaked by the deep state as they needed a distraction from the soon to be released Arizona audit.

#29 | Posted by Docman at 2021-07-15 01:56 PM | Reply

the Q-MAGAt's still wouldn't believe it.

#27 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

They would find a way to cheer for it. Like they cheerlead for covid.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-15 02:04 PM | Reply

I don't think this was leaked by Putin.
We had lots of proof that Russians were colluding with the Trump campaign. Trump asked for help on TV.

This doc confirms Putin was directing the help.

But it does make an all too tantalizing reference to kompromat. It could be fake.

My guess is a 5 eyes leaker decided that Trump should not get the GOP nomination.

#31 | Posted by bored at 2021-07-15 02:14 PM | Reply

Why do the libs love disgusting urine videos?
Sick baysterds.

#32 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-07-15 02:24 PM | Reply

Normal well adjusted men want to the hummonica tapes.

#33 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2021-07-15 02:26 PM | Reply

"75 million Americans will soon come to believe this report leaked by the deep state as they needed a distraction from the soon to be released Arizona fraudit."

That said, I sure hope those reporters aren't being "Dan Rathered." If the docs end up being fake that still won't give any credibility to the fraudit.

#34 | Posted by danni at 2021-07-15 02:26 PM | Reply

Why do the libs love disgusting urine videos?
Sick baysterds.

#32 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

Why do cons love leaders who can be blackmailed with disgusting urine videos by our worst enemies?

Furthermore, why do cons love the same leaders as our worst enemies?

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-15 02:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All those people who said I was being paranoid about Russians can eat a dick.

#36 | Posted by Tor at 2021-07-15 03:36 PM | Reply

a distraction from the soon to be released Arizona audit.
#29 | POSTED BY DOCMAN

No additional reporting required to dismiss a fraudulent audit by a third party random group. If anyone's holding out hope for an AZ audit to change something, then lol@them.

#37 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-07-15 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And just like that - POOF! Trump supporters vanish!
#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

I wish that were true but it doesn't seem to work very well. As to the pee tapes, those who claim to have seen them say the hookers peed on each other, not the orange turd. He's too fastidious for that.

#38 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2021-07-15 04:26 PM | Reply

Hey hey hey, where's the rodent gas bag protecting his boy Putin? Pf-ing russian Db@g.

#39 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-15 04:43 PM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2021-07-15 12:36 PM | FLAG: ONE CHROMOSONE TOO MANY

#40 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-07-15 04:44 PM | Reply

Why do you, and an "enemy of america", both want the same guy to be president of america?

I don't and didn't. I voted for Hillary and Biden. There goes you knee-jerk narrative.

Have you seen the pee tape? No? It's a figment of you imagination.

Have you seen definitive proof of collusion? No? It's a figment of your imagination. Hope isn't reality.

Aren't you tired of being led by your nose and being constantly let down? Mueller let you down. Maddow let you down.

I said let's make sure Harding's claims are verified, and you accuse me of backing Trump, which is entirely untrue.

I admire your enthusiasm, but it's completely misplaced.

#41 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-07-15 05:03 PM | Reply

Seriously? There have been enough smoking guns to form a firing squad. It's amazing how many people have been convicted for very obvious crimes, yet even somewhat rational people still want a tad more evidence.

#42 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-07-15 05:25 PM | Reply

Have you seen definitive proof of collusion? No? It's a figment of your imagination. Hope isn't reality.

#41 | Posted by lee_the_agent

Why was trump's campaign manager giving trump's campaign polling data to putin?

Why did trump obstruct justice to hide that fact?

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-15 05:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

As I've said here since 2016, I believe Trump has been a Russian asset for decades.

#44 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-07-15 05:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Osama bin Laden purposely egged Bushturd2 on after temporarily rendering our military useless against box cutters. bin Laden started poking his late brother's business partner right in the presidential ego prompting two decades of war for nothing... well maybe opium.

Now Trumptibunkerboi and Putin...

Hey, it's what republicl0wns do.

#45 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-07-15 08:49 PM | Reply

As if Putin has anything to do with my change of heart where I am revolted by liberals handling of issues.

Yea...right...I would have voted for Hillary Clinton were it not for Putin.

#46 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-07-15 11:06 PM | Reply

"I would have voted for Hillary Clinton were it not for Putin."

You would have voted for Putin over Hillary Clinton.

You know I'm right.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-15 11:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

As if Putin has anything to do with my change of heart where I am revolted by liberals handling of issues.

#46 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yeah if only liberals could have made a pandemic worse like republicans did instead of improving it like liberals did, then you'd vote for them.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-16 12:02 AM | Reply

Speak,

There's so much to dislike about liberals now the pandemic is only the tip of the iceberg.

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-07-16 12:26 AM | Reply

I think the source of this article is bait. It is sort of too perfect, and that type of leak is a little far fetched.

#50 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-07-16 06:29 AM | Reply

There's so much to dislike about liberals now the pandemic is only the tip of the iceberg.

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson

Oh so you PREFFERED mass death to mass vaccination.

Do you root for wildfires and hurricanes too?

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-16 01:06 PM | Reply

Oh so you PREFFERED mass death to mass vaccination.

Re(tar)dlicans are all suffering brain damage.

They pay no attention to 600,000+ dead Americans due to the TrumpVirus.

But are shhtting themselves over voter fraud. Which was carried out by a handful of other Re(tar)dlicans.

There's literally proof the Drumpf was Putin's *itch. But they're cultists who are ready to vote for "Russians before Democrats."

America is done. China will leave us crippled while Republicans do everything they can to destroy this nation.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-07-16 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's so much to dislike about liberals now the pandemic is only the tip of the iceberg.

#49 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2021-07-16 12:26 AM | REPLY

Those awful liberals and their masks and vaccines.

You are nuttier than squirrel poop.

#53 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2021-07-16 01:56 PM | Reply

Alex,

There are many more issues today than covid and masks.

Liberals are pompous and full of grandiose delusions.

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-07-16 03:25 PM | Reply

"Liberals are pompous and full of grandiose delusions."

Liberals aren't as pompous and full of grandiose delusions as Trump and Trumpers are.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-16 05:51 PM | Reply

Alex,

There are many more issues today than covid and masks.

Liberals are pompous and full of grandiose delusions.

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson

Covid killed 600,000 americans. How many americans did your more important "issues" kill?

Did millions die when mr potatohead or dr suezz were censored?

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-07-16 06:21 PM | Reply

The pee tape appears to be a blending of two stories. Michael Cohen tells a completely credible story where he was with Dotard at a Vegas strip club where golden showers were the specialty of the house and the diaper sniper was quite taken by their act. We know based on under oath testimony from Dotard's own bodyguard Keith Schiller that when he was in Moscow some hookers showed up to Combover Caligula's hotel room as a gift, which is completely credible based on the people Dotard was doing business with, and his history. Schiller claimed that he shooed the hookers away, which was likely an uncheckable lie, because he obviously didn't shoo Melanie away. There is no way Dotard would have turned down a gift like that. Schiller admitted that he did not stay outside Dotard's room all night, and we know the orange menace doesn't sleep much, so either Schiller was lying, or the girls came back after he went to bed. So there is likely kompromat, but it's probably just Dotard fumbling around with a couple of Russian hookers.

#57 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-07-16 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Always worth repeating when the topic of Putin comes up is the rightwing mantra of Trump supporters: "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat."

#58 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-07-17 12:04 AM | Reply

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