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Friday, July 23, 2021

As an extreme drought grips California, making water increasingly scarce, thieves are making off with billions of gallons of the precious resource, tapping into fire hydrants, rivers, and even small family homes and farms.

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This is laughably stupid. How can you estimate how much water is stolen?
And if it is stolen how would you know it is being used for cannabis?

....said John Nores, head of the California Department of Fish and Wildlife Marijuana Enforcement Team
For her next report this intern should ask a fox to explain the disappearance of some chickens.

#1 | Posted by BluSky at 2021-07-23 06:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Illegal CA weed growers have been stealing water from We The People for decades. You can base estimates off of the pump flow rating and plot sizes. You know it's for Cannabis because the Game Wardens working for the California Dept of Fish and Wildlife find the farms (aka "Conservation", "Parks & Wildlife", "Game & Fish", "Land & Natural Resources", etc).

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-07-23 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Cartels don't ship much cannabis over the border. Why would you? That's stupid, it's high volume, low value relative to anything else you can smuggle. Their growing operations are hidden in California's forests.

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-07-23 10:04 AM | Reply

"Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown."

#4 | Posted by jakester at 2021-07-23 10:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

growing operations are hidden in California's forests

I lived in Mendo for 20 years. Grown many hundreds of pounds. Worked other people's farms, knew/know many growers, ran nurseries, set up ops in NY, AZ WA, MI, CA.... Heard this urban legend many times. Never actually came across one of these cartel grows. Never heard of anyone buying this mysterious cartel forest dope, being offered it or transporting it. Frankly, if someone can make money in today's market with some off brand outdoor native soil grow, hucking water up a mountain a gallon at a time they will have earned every penny.

Growing monsoon crops like rice and alfalfa in a desert to ship across the Pacific Ocean 'steals' 100x more water than all the pot in California.

#5 | Posted by BluSky at 2021-07-23 10:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As #5 states, you can't get money for outdoor grown weed, at least not in CA. It's worth maybe 20% of the exact same weed grown indoors.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-23 10:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah, never buy grass from the Easter Bunny.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-07-23 10:42 AM | Reply

Dope fiends stealing things? Wow, Arlo Guthrie was right.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-07-23 02:38 PM | Reply

Yeah, never buy grass from the Easter Bunny.

#7 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

Unless you plan on laying an egg in it.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-23 02:38 PM | Reply

Water should be free. It used to be.

Another sign of our civilizations demise.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-23 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If the illegal farms on public lands are a myth, then truly California is a land of miracles. Hallelujah.

"According to the Fish and Wildlife department, at least 3,000 to 5,000 organized crime-operated "trespass grows" are identified each year on California's wildlands. Many of these sites are typically in excess of 1,000 plants per site, sometimes consisting of more than 200,000 plants."

The biggest legal farms are outdoors in Cali. There are only minor differences in terroir between outdoor and indoor growths of the same strain unless you're really bad at hydroponics. Off to processing for extracts and edibles it goes.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-07-23 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Water should be free. It used to be.

Another sign of our civilizations demise.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy

That's a childish way to look at things.

Water has never been free. Humans set on a piece of land and they fight to defend what's on it. Always has been, always will be.

You are looking at a world where there were not that many humans on it. The world isnt like that anymore.

We need to watch and conserve our resources where we are.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2021-07-23 03:08 PM | Reply

Water has never been free.
#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ

What a ridiculous statement.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-07-23 03:11 PM | Reply

"Water has never been free."

I'll take "Rain" for $200, Alex.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-07-23 03:29 PM | Reply

Nestle?

#15 | Posted by bored at 2021-07-23 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2 Weed farmers and Utah ranchers.
They can point guns at the feds and make then run away.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2021-07-23 04:02 PM | Reply

One of the biggest water pig crops in California is almonds. It's estimated that each almond consumes about 12 liters of water.

#17 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-07-23 07:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Their growing operations are hidden in California's forests.

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And according to recent reports cartel and criminal grows are widespread in the Mojave desert and farm country too

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-07-23 10:38 PM | Reply

Fish and Wildlife department, at least 3,000 to 5,000 organized crime-operated "trespass grows" ... sometimes consisting of more than 200,000 plants."

This may come as a shock, cops lie. Cops in the drug war lie bigly. When they lay out a recent bust of party powder for the cameras and say it has a "street value" of a 3 gazillion dollars, they made that number up. It's not real.

Lets do the bar napkin math. 200k plants (sorry, I'm already starting to make silly faces and roll my eyes). You'll need to start cutting clones in December while all the other growers are still on holiday. I dunno, let's say 2000 mothers. No clandestine hilltop nursery for this, so somewhere someone has a standard indoor 30,000 watt climate controlled mother room (more eye rolling) that generates 0 income and cost 9000 a month to keep the lights on. So 20 clones per mother once every 3 weeks, snip dip repeat. Fast forward to early April. Now no self respecting cartel master grower is going to set up his farm within 3 miles of a road so you get out the ole hiking boots and start shuffling the teens up and down the Humboldt hills. Three miles up, three miles down lugging a dozen teens and your stolen water...16,000 times. 96,000 miles or 7 trips around the equator of Earth (many eye rollings). Perfect season. Lots of rain early, no rain or fog from September onward. No drying/curing outdoors in the fall, too humid, too much UV and this stage is the most critical to get right. Buds 'bruise' easily now, be ------- on the many hikes. Up and down and up and down miles miles miles. Trucks, vans, buses hauling wet untrimmed weed across Norcal with every busta cop for 400 miles primed for harvest season and on the lookout for out of state plates/suspicious autos. You made it. You're the cartel so you don't need the traveling circus of lesbian trim teams that can bank a pound per day per person. You can just throw free cartel labor at the problem for half the efficiency. Off to market to compete with licensed growers using premium soil, perfectly ph'd water, fences and guard dogs for the critters, foliar feeding every day and sleeping under a roof every night. No dispensaries are gonna buy it, even if they wanted to risk their licensee for some mid-grade outdoor the spectrometer doesn't lie, you've got bugs, residual fertilizer, powdery mildew, mold at 1 part per billion. East of the Missisip is where you want to be, and at this point you start to wonder why you didnt Just Smuggle In Mexican Indoor?!

#19 | Posted by BluSky at 2021-07-23 11:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The outsiders ravage our lands in front of our eyes.

#20 | Posted by LesWit at 2021-07-24 01:43 AM | Reply

I read about a thing called the water cycle a long time ago. The water isn't being "consumed", it's just going someplace else.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-07-24 09:21 AM | Reply

El toro feces!

#22 | Posted by Jaspar at 2021-07-24 10:57 AM | Reply

"Water has never been free. "

Bullshat.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-24 11:24 AM | Reply

"Water has never been free."

I am so old that water used to be free and you had to pay for porn.

Someone even wrote a book about it.

Here's one from Texas.

When Water Was Free: An Urban Commentary from an East Texas Front Porch
Book by Patrice K. Walker

If only you could read!

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-07-24 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Water used to be free and still is in many places. However when you have mega-cities and farms filling arid land without the necessary natural water there to quench the thirst, how can it be free there?

#25 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-07-24 02:38 PM | Reply

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