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Tuesday, August 03, 2021

The stakes are high for the second Boeing Starliner flight test after it failed to dock with the ISS back in 2019, ceding ground to Elon Musk's SpaceX Crew Dragon.



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FTA : "In 2014, Boeing was awarded $4.2bn to finish developing Starliner and fly up to six contracted crewed missions to the space station, while SpaceX received a similar deal worth about $2.6bn for its own astronaut transportation system, which consists of the Crew Dragon capsule and Falcon 9 rocket."

SpaceX is getting men to and from the ISS for 2/3 as much money while Boeing still hasn't do it.

Go Elon!

#1 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-03 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Refreshing to read this non-political and not COVID related news article.

Despite being a more expensive manner to travel to ISS, I'm curious what the future holds for this platform

#2 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-08-03 11:40 PM | Reply

This reminds me of when the US government was awarding a huge telecommunications contract called FTS 2000 back in the 1990s. The big player, AT&T, like Boeing thought they had it in the bag. But a private upstart Sprint, {then US Sprint) got the primary bid with AT&T being the secondary.

Go, Elon!

#3 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-04 12:04 AM | Reply

Sprint, now part of T-Mobile, absolutely sucks.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2021-08-04 07:04 AM | Reply

Go Capitalism!

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2021-08-04 09:01 AM | Reply

Third time's the charm? They moved the rocket off the launch pad ...

However, the launch window is closing fast.

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-08-04 12:26 PM | Reply

Go Capitalism!
#5 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2021-08-04 09:01 AM | REPLY

LOL The Boeing Starliner is 100% funded by government dollars and still hasn't successfully launched. The boondoggle NASA (public) SLS Rocket is on track to perform better than the (private) Boeing Starliner at this point.

Capitalism can be great but this... this isn't capitalism.

#7 | Posted by bartimus at 2021-08-04 04:54 PM | Reply

"Capitalism can be great but this... this isn't capitalism."

Sure it is. NASA took bids for contracts to build these rockets, awarding two makers: Boeing and SpaceX. It's no different than a homeowner taking bids to remodel his kitchen. Just because the money comes from the taxpayer instead of the homeowner makes it no less capitalistic.

I applaud Elon Musk, clearly an underdog to Boeing for doing it first and for less money. He wanted to be better, also clearly a tenet of capitalism.

#8 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-04 04:58 PM | Reply

Sure it is.
#8 | POSTED BY JAKESTER AT 2021-08-04 04:58 PM | FLAG:

Interesting take. I'd argue that government intervention and funding in the aerospace market is the antithesis of capitalism - no different than a hospital providing services and then billing the government for them, no?

It is interesting to see the divergence of Old Space vs New Space... with New Space clearly winning.

#9 | Posted by bartimus at 2021-08-04 05:05 PM | Reply

#9 - if NASA autonomously built rockets or awarded contracts with no competitive bidding, I would agree.

I made an analogy in post #3 of the US government awarding telephone and data contracts to Sprint and AT&T after taking several bids in 1988 in what was known as FTS 2000. (Federal Telephone System) A nascent Sprint beat out the century old giant AT&T. Do you feel this wasn't capitalism at work, either? The scenarios are identical: A US government agency awarding contracts to the lowest bidders.

#10 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-04 05:24 PM | Reply

It is interesting to see the divergence of Old Space vs New Space... with New Space clearly winning.

#9 | POSTED BY BARTIMUS AT 2021-08-04 05:05 PM | FLAG:

Gets more interesting when you sit down with somebody that purchases launch services for a living. Since SpaceX is a private company nobody knows if it really is cheaper to fly or they're flying under cost by burning investor cash. It's known they underbid to lock in contracts then inflated their launch prices afterwards to stop bleeding cash.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-08-04 05:25 PM | Reply

the real money in commercial space will be mining. A private company need only nudge an iron rich asteroid into earth orbit, and mine it for mucho dinero.

Or even mine water from a comet put into orbit around the moon for future lunar colonies. This one would be a little trickier since comets outgas making them rockets. It would be more difficult to keep one in orbit. But it could be done.

#12 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-04 05:40 PM | Reply

"nudge an asteroid into Earth orbit"

What could possibly go wrong?

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-08-05 12:35 PM | Reply

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