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Thursday, August 05, 2021

Apple Inc is planning to install a software on U.S. iPhones that will scan for child abuse imagery, the Financial Times reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter.

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That leaves the open question --- what else might Apple's new system be capable of scanning for?

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-05 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

---------- is one sick bastard.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-08-05 01:19 PM | Reply

To follow up on #1, where is the processing power going to come from? Obvious if it runs locally on the host endpoint device, but to scan iCloud - does apple have the cycles to do that?

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-08-05 01:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#3 ... to scan iCloud - does apple have the cycles to do that? ...

My guess would be yes.

The initial scan might take a bit, but once it gets to the transactional scan, i.e., scan when uploaded for backups, then the compute power needed is reduced.

Or, they could scan on the phone and reduce battery life...


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-05 02:03 PM | Reply

It's a noble cause, but definitely Big Brother and should be fought. The Big Brother slippery slope should have been put in check years ago. It's too late now, though.

#5 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-05 02:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#1 - exactly. Already big media has become politicized. Will Apple be looking for people who refer to certain candidates? Why wouldn't they?

Law enforcement has to get a warrant to tap a phone. Why doesn't Apple? And what will they do with this information? It would be inadmissible in court since it was obtained without a warrant.

#6 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-05 02:57 PM | Reply

If you are a recreational drug user, don't talk or text about it. Don't post pictures of those buds you bought in California. Don't post a picture of that hemp plant you have growing in a pot in your balcony. Big Brother is watching you closer than ever.

#7 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-05 03:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Already big media has become politicized. "

Fox "News" was politicized since its inception.

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-08-05 03:19 PM | Reply

@#6 ... It would be inadmissible in court since it was obtained without a warrant. ...

That depends upon the Privacy Agreement most users agree to without even reading.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-05 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Fox "News" was politicized since its inception."

Yes, I know. That falls under 'already'. :)

#10 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-05 03:57 PM | Reply

"That depends upon the Privacy Agreement most users agree to without even reading."

Giving up one's Constitutional rights might be in that disclosure, but I'm pretty sure no one except two branches of our government have the power to enforce it.

#11 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-05 04:00 PM | Reply

This is worse than the free U2 album.

#12 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2021-08-05 04:15 PM | Reply

The Big Brother slippery slope should have been put in check years ago. It's too late now, though.
#5 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

It's only too late because, as Orwell feared, capitalism would find a way for the citizens to invite surveillance into their homes. This was not forced upon anyone, it was surely welcomed.

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-08-05 05:08 PM | Reply

#10 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

No it doesn't you phony.

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-08-05 05:19 PM | Reply

In sure this is the first and only time.

#15 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-08-05 08:59 PM | Reply

Something something, paved with good intentions.

The current proposal for searching devices and accounts for child abuse material is without a doubt lawful-good. But if this is planned, then what is planned down the road with regard to data collection and analysis?

#16 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-08-05 09:21 PM | Reply

#6

Apple can get it under terms and use the cops can get a warrant to get it from Apple. I'm pretty sure Apple calling the cops and saying hey get a warrant for such and such number would qualify as probable cause.

#7

Posting a picture of a bud you got in California would be fine as long as it wasn't geotagged to an illegal state. Posting it on social media geotagged to an illegal state would already be a dumb idea as that's public so the cops can see it just as well as your friends. I doubt the feds care unless you are posting 10 pounds worth of bud you got in California.

#17 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-08-05 09:34 PM | Reply

ohhhhhhhh... the trials and tribulations of a rich country... *heavy sigh*

Honest to got... why people think they can talk privately through the airwaves eludes all rational conjecture.

Seriously when you are talking, texting, and sending images via cell phone... it goes into cyberspace.

If you don't want people to see what you shouldn't be doing... don't do it and post it in cyberspace.

#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-08-06 05:10 AM | Reply

When the so called "War on Terror" began data collection and review the intel community quickly discovered that too much data is worse than not enough data. Who is going to review this data and then act upon it? This will end up not being a universal search of everyone's iphones, it will end up selective and used to find dirt on candidates who rock the boat of the coming Fascist dictatorship.
Because of the T-Mobile 5G network, they have sent out letters to all Sprint customers that on Jan. 1 many of our phones will not work any more and that we will have to buy a new phone capable of handling the 5G network.
I'm pretty sure that instead I will end my dealing with Spring/T-Mobile and switch to a cheaper network because, really, I don't give a crap about a 5G network when I'm just ordering a pizza.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2021-08-06 05:12 AM | Reply

Once apple shows how easily this is done, what is to stop China from demanding that they also filter through and find pictures of dissidents or demonstrations, or images of Tiananmen Square. The "client side" aspect of this is just one step too far.
What is on one's phone is no one's business, unless the state authorities get a warrant. It is the same as someone invading your home to look for child porn, even though there is no accusation, just a desire to search a million homes.
And, of course, child porn is a horror.

#20 | Posted by Hughmass at 2021-08-06 07:16 AM | Reply

We watched an insurrection via phones from the insurrectionist. We were glad to have that information. We tracked the crooks down using their phones... is that bad Big Bro or good Big Bro?

if what is on your phone is so awful that you want no one to see it... you're an idiot. If you want your twisted not to show... shut your phone off, let the battery run dead, remove the sim card before putting it in a black soundproof box inside a safe inside a dark room... and never ever ever ever EVER do your badness in front of or within mic-shot of your phone.

It's idiotic to think that you are entitled to privacy with a device specifically designed to link you to the worldwide web. Your buttdialing occurs on an international portal capable of talking to astronauts in space.

Frankly considering the nature of the thing... how can you claim any kind of special privacy rights involving the use of it?

There still are things called hard drives that can exist separate from that cyberspace fountain you paid way too much for just so you can be part of the world from which all information ebbs and flows all the time.

#21 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-08-06 10:00 AM | Reply

Big Brother is watching you closer than ever.

#7 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

We have won that war in California.

You and your cannabis hating "big brother" can stay out of California.

There are plenty of other places you can go. Texas will welcome you with open arms.

Thanks.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-08-06 11:13 AM | Reply

don't do it and post it in cyberspace.

#18 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE

Or learn to encrypt your messages.

Like the big boys that want to see your porn do.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-08-06 11:15 AM | Reply

In internal memo, Apple addresses concerns around new Photo scanning features, doubles down on the need to protect children
9to5mac.com

...In an internal memo distributed to the teams that worked on this project and obtained by 9to5Mac, Apple acknowledges the "misunderstandings" around the new features, but doubles down on its belief that these features are part of an "important mission" for keeping children safe. ...

Here is the memo in full:


Today marks the official public unveiling of Expanded Protections for Children, and I wanted to take a moment to thank each and every one of you for all of your hard work over the last few years. We would not have reached this milestone without your tireless dedication and resiliency.

Keeping children safe is such an important mission. In true Apple fashion, pursuing this goal has required deep cross-functional commitment, spanning Engineering, GA, HI, Legal, Product Marketing and PR. What we announced today is the product of this incredible collaboration, one that delivers tools to protect children, but also maintain Apple's deep commitment to user privacy.

We've seen many positive responses today. We know some people have misunderstandings, and more than a few are worried about the implications, but we will continue to explain and detail the features so people understand what we've built. And while a lot of hard work lays ahead to deliver the features in the next few months, I wanted to share this note that we received today from NCMEC. I found it incredibly motivating, and hope that you will as well.

I am proud to work at Apple with such an amazing team. Thank you!




So the internal memo looks more like an advertisement for the photo scanning ability than anything else?


#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-06 12:05 PM | Reply

That depends upon the Privacy Agreement most users agree to without even reading.

#9 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

My first question was whether anyone has looked through all 50 pages of size 2 font to find the update stating your consent of this software installation and scanning.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2021-08-06 01:23 PM | Reply


@#25 ... My first question was whether anyone has looked through all 50 pages of size 2 font ...

Then there's this...

Page 46 of Apple's new iOS agreement is a funny fake. But makes a serious point
grahamcluley.com

...Have you seen page 46 of Apple's (lengthy) terms and conditions for iOS 7?...

However, even though it's a joke it *does* still make an important point....


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-06 01:57 PM | Reply

Apple is about to start scanning iPhone users' devices for banned content, warns professor
www.theregister.com

...For now it's child abuse material but the tech has mission creep written in...

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-06 03:36 PM | Reply

Would it be unreasonable for Apple to start with republican congressman from southern states,,,say Florida?

#28 | Posted by Docman at 2021-08-07 11:28 AM | Reply

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