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Friday, August 27, 2021

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's COVID-19 expert Jay Bhattacharya was asked in a trial about school mask mandates, "What would be an acceptable death rate for children?"

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"What would be an acceptable death rate for children?" Gallagher asked Bhattacharya.

Bhattacharya responded, "I reject the premise of the question. The question is not what's an acceptable death rate. The question is: What are the trade-offs?"

Yeah! How much can a child's life be worth, anyway? It's not like they are billionaires rwing donors or anything!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2021-08-26 11:24 PM | Reply

Well, what is the normal death rate of children in Florida?

- - jakeberlyster

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-08-27 01:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More from the article...

...In a July op-ed for The Orange County Register, Bhattacharya called the benefits of masks on children "infinitesimally small" and claimed they are "disruptive to learning and communicating in classrooms." He also said the facial coverings reduce a child's ability to learn "nonverbal communication" as well as disrupt their emotional bonding with teachers....

I would like to see the data behind what he is asserting.

He also seems to forget the effect upon children when their parents have to explain why their freinds are not showing up for class anymore and the class size is smaller than it was previously.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 11:41 AM | Reply

Thank Gawd that normal for Florida is NOT normal for the rest of us.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-08-27 11:45 AM | Reply

Every day that passes seems to be the saddest day I've ever witnessed.

I can only take solace in being one of the enlightened ones for so long.

People have lost their ------- minds in a way that the most extreme science fiction writer couldn't have foreseen.

#5 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-08-27 11:49 AM | Reply

Bo

Have you watched Idiocracy?

We are tracking pretty close.

We have already had a "President Camocho" and now we have the smartest President who is gonna fix everything!

Meanwhile everyone eats at Taco Bell and drinks Brawndo (because it has electrolytes) and bates all day while the world falls apart.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-08-27 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People who oppose masks and vaccines should have people demanding answer that question daily and in public.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2021-08-27 12:15 PM | Reply

While I'm for wearing masks in places where the prevalence of the virus is high and and think Desantis is an asshat for signing that ban, these "won't someone think of the children" arguments really don't sit well with me, and I'm sure they'll backfire with a lot of people. It reminds me of how some on the right are politicizing dead and injured troops right now (though I'm sure they probably don't think they are, just like people doing it with children are in denial about it too, because it's primarily emotion based).

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-08-27 12:30 PM | Reply

And he's absolutely right. I've been saying this since the outbreak. What is freedom worth? If the answer is that 0 child deaths are acceptable and that all freedoms must be taken away to meet that goal, then you might as well get rid of many Amendments and statutes across the country. We accept child deaths every single day. Children die from illegal border crossing for multiple reasons that aren't caused by Americans but I don't see Liberals up in arms about closing the border.

Just because a topic is difficult to discuss or accept doesn't mean it doesn't need to be addressed. Child deaths need to be treated with some form of sympathy, no doubt. But to get outraged over the fact that someone is trying to set baselines that are actually achievable is stupid. This country NEEDS more baselines and less violence and arguing over opinions.

#9 | Posted by humtake at 2021-08-27 12:31 PM | Reply

@#9 ... What is freedom worth? ...

Is it really about freedom, or do some hide behind the "freedom" excuse because fmr Pres Trump politicized public health issues for his own gain, and they have no other reason for opposing the keeping of Americans safe and healthy?


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

And he's absolutely right. I've been saying this since the outbreak. What is freedom worth?

#9 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Wearing a mask because of a deadly contagion to save the lives of students is not worth it because of Freedom?!

Do you have any idea what freedom means?

I sure as hell don't hear Republicans grumbling about school dress codes.

#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-08-27 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The logic of right wingers is that in America the citizenry should have the right and the freedom to expose other people to Covid 19 to their hearts content. Telling them they can't is an impermissible infringement on their freedom. Or, more accurately, their Freedumb.

#12 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-08-27 12:46 PM | Reply

"If the answer is that 0 child deaths are acceptable and that all freedoms must be taken away to meet that goal,"

Still having trouble with that pesky reading comprehension are we?

The question was what is "normal" not what is "acceptable".

We can never have zero children dying. But there are things we could make sure very few children die of covid.

Why are republicans afraid of following basic and common sense public health guidelines? Like we have never had vaccination requirements and mandates before. What is wrong with you people? Are you afraid of public health? Do you also refuse to wear seat belts and stop at stop lights? Because of Freedumb?

"We accept child deaths every single day. Children die from illegal border crossing for multiple reasons that aren't caused by Americans but I don't see Liberals up in arms about closing the border."

Why do you lie? Because you don't know the truth?

How many children died at the border today? Zero

Most of the children that died in our custody at the border were during the Trumpy administration.

Congratulations Deplorable.

You helped build that.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-08-27 12:48 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Sophist nonsense. You're a fool.

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-08-27 12:52 PM | Reply

It's a difficult question actuaries have been asking for centuries.

#15 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-27 12:52 PM | Reply

Mask free zones are the new peanut free zones.

#16 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-08-27 01:07 PM | Reply

@#16 ... Mask free zones are the new peanut free zones. ...

Not really.

There is no medical reason for mask-free zones. Political reasons? Yes. But medical reasons? Nope.

There is a very significant medical reason for some people to avoid peanuts, hence the peanut-free zones.

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 01:17 PM | Reply

Judge blocks Florida governor's order banning mask mandates
apnews.com

...School districts in Florida may impose mask mandates, a judge said Friday, ruling that Gov. Ron DeSantis overstepped his authority by issuing an executive order banning the mandates.

Leon County Circuit Judge John C. Cooper agreed with a group of parents who claimed in a lawsuit that DeSantis' order is unconstitutional and cannot be enforced. The governor's order gave parents the sole right to decide if their child wears a mask at school.

Cooper said DeSantis' order "is without legal authority." ...


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 01:23 PM | Reply

"..In a July op-ed for The Orange County Register, Bhattacharya called the benefits of masks on children "infinitesimally small" and claimed they are "disruptive to learning and communicating in classrooms." He also said the facial coverings reduce a child's ability to learn "nonverbal communication" as well as disrupt their emotional bonding with teachers...."

The Judge in his decision today, totally destorye that claim.

"Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's COVID-19 expert Jay Bhattacharya was asked in a trial about school mask mandates, "What would be an acceptable death rate for children?"

Two words should be added to their dishonest question: i.e. "from COVID?"

The Judge saw through all of their dishonest, out of context claims but the only real question is how bought and paid for are the higher Florida courts?

The Judge eviscerated their entire case, only a crooked court could disagree with his decision.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2021-08-27 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What are the trade-offs? Don't know. Let's ask the parents of those eleven (soon to be many, many more) dead children if they are OK trading the lives of their precious child for a government policy driven by political ambition. The response obtained will serve as the definitive response to such a careless, callous question...

#20 | Posted by catdog at 2021-08-27 01:30 PM | Reply

Florida Judge Throws Out DeSantis' Order against school masks

drudge.com

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2021-08-27 01:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 | Posted by humtake

Why can't you yell "fire!" in a crowded room?
Why do we have seat belt laws?
Child seat safety laws?
Why do we have Drunk driving laws?
How about Laws about how many hours a truck driver be at the wheel a day?
Why is there a minimum age to buy nicotine products?
Why do we have smoking bans?
Why do employers fire smokers?

Are these Freedom bans or good governance? What I can say for sure is they are to protect society and not just you. Freedom comes with responsibility

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-08-27 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#21
"Are these Freedom bans or good governance? What I can say for sure is they are to protect society and not just you. Freedom comes with responsibility"

We require seat belts, motorcycle helmets, hard hats, Etc. because of the risk that without them you could run up insurance rates and potentially become a burden on society. If the unvaccinated get Covid they could run up bills that they cannot pay or even become permanently disabled and living off those of us who got the shot.

It is about personal responsibility.

#23 | Posted by TenMile at 2021-08-27 03:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There is no medical reason for mask-free zones. Political reasons? Yes. But medical reasons? Nope."
"There is a very significant medical reason for some people to avoid peanuts, hence the peanut-free zones."

#17 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Masker banners and peanut banners are both drama queens who are ignorant of science.

Have Americans Gone Nuts Over Nut Allergies?

When I was a kid, we had a classmate with peanut allergies. We all envied her. Whenever she answered a question right during a learning game, she got a piece of hard candy. The rest of us got peanuts.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-08-27 05:41 PM | Reply

This question leaves out a major factor.

Have these children been born yet?

If not. Then they're extremely precious. All fetuses Matter!

If so. It's the parent's responsibility. Lazy irresponsible poor people.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-08-27 05:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"What would be an acceptable death rate for children?"

Depends. Are we talking about my crappy neighbor's kids and their feral friends?

#26 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2021-08-27 08:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

The GQP death cult thinks the tree of liberty needs some watering with the blood of our children. They are absolutely disgusting!

#27 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-08-27 08:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I agree, the children are disgusting.

But that's no reason to kill them!

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 08:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Also interesting via www.theguardian.com

"Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds. Researchers blame lack of stimulation as parents balanced childcare with working from home."

#29 | Posted by SLCHavanaReport at 2021-08-28 12:52 AM | Reply

You know what limits my freedom? Stop signs.
So, for freedoms sake, I'm not stopping any more.
Stop signs just slow me down, kill my gas mileage, put undue wear on my brakes, and make it hard to hear my music as I accelerate away.
98% of the time nothing goes wrong and only 0.02% of stop signs run ends in a fatality anyway.
Hopefully my governor will support our freedom and ban stop signs; it will help speed up the economic recovery.
Freedom!

#30 | Posted by MBlue at 2021-08-28 04:15 PM | Reply

"You know what limits my freedom? Stop signs."

You do not have the freedom to run stop signs, therefore none of your freedoms have been violated.

#31 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-28 04:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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