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Friday, August 27, 2021

Seven veteran Capitol Police officers who defended Congress during the Jan. 6 attack are suing former President Donald Trump, pro-Trump militias and other associates, claiming they conspired to violently overturn the results of the 2020 election.

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#1 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2021-08-27 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

8 months after he instigated a violent fascist insurrection attempt to end democracy, trump is still walking around a free man, and the most likely next president.

Biden and Garland are too scared of being called partisan to save our country from fascism.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-27 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And they should. Trump was the catalyst for getting these people riled up. Unfortunately, Libs decided to go to the nth degree and try to sell it as insurrection and ignore their own insurrectionists so we had 6 months where nothing happened because Libs couldn't shut up. We are finally getting to the right actions to take now that both sides have settle down a little.

#3 | Posted by humtake at 2021-08-27 12:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

"Libs decided to go to the nth degree and try to sell it as insurrection and ignore their own insurrectionists so we had 6 months where nothing happened because Libs couldn't shut up. "

Still trying to white wash the Jan 6th insurrection and all the seditious acts of Trumpy and his minions?

Good luck with that and your Big Lie insurrectionist.

As long as you and your fellow insurrectionists continue to lie I will never "shut up".

You want me to "shut up"?

You first.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-08-27 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trumpers have not yet settled down.

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-08-27 12:39 PM | Reply

Any lawyer stupid enough to represent Trump better be sure to get paid up front.

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-08-27 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

SPEAKS @ #2

"Biden and Garland are too scared of being called partisan to save our country from fascism."

I don't think they're scared, Speaks. They just don't want the word "partisan" to come back and bite them in the butt later on, which the Republicans are wont do do.

If anything, bi-partisan is a smart move. It pulls the rug out from under Republicans.

BTW, this is how Biden's 25 years of experience pays off. So far he's been very respectful. He hasn't had to kneecap a single person (ala Trump) in the upcoming mid-terms.

That kind of a pleasant change, doncha think? Let's try and get used to it.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-08-27 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#3 ... both sides ...

So predictable.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7 ... So far he's been very respectful. He hasn't had to kneecap a single person ...

I have noticed that, in spite of all the recent severe press criticism, and significant criticism from both sides of the aisle, Pres Biden has not taken to social media to target "fake news" for their reporting or to vow to primary those who dare criticize him. He also has accepted responsibility instead of trying to deflect it to others.

... That kind of a pleasant change, doncha think? ...

Yup.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

SPEAKS

" trump is still walking around a free man"

You know what's going on. I know you do. It's how law enforcement works.

First you have to catch all the little fish who, in turn, give you all the evidence you need to catch the big fish. In the case of Donald Trump, it wouldn't be prudent to go into court without an iron clad case. Trump is too slickery to do otherwise.

Let's let the law do it's job. There's more going on behind the scenes than we now about. Especially at the Manhattan D.A.'s office and Trump. Org. plus the FBI and the DOJ.

Trump may not be the brightest porchlight in town but I'm sure, by now, he knows he's being herded into a blind canyon ~ and he's plenty nervous. Nervous people make mistakes, like January 6th, for example. That was a colossal blunder. Pelosi is going to roast over a hot grill like a plucked chicken.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-08-27 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

And they should. Trump was the catalyst for getting these people riled up. Unfortunately, Libs decided to go to the nth degree and try to sell it as insurrection and ignore their own insurrectionists so we had 6 months where nothing happened because Libs couldn't shut up. We are finally getting to the right actions to take now that both sides have settle down a little.

#3 | Posted by humtake

It was an attempted insurrection. It failed, because trump fails at everything and his cult is a pile of uneducated losers.

And no matter how many times you try, you will never sell the lie that BLM marches were the same thing.

But your party's entire future depends on selling that lie, so i understand why you're trying so hard.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-27 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Biden and Garland are too scared of being called partisan to save our country from fascism."

I don't think they're scared, Speaks. They just don't want the word "partisan" to come back and bite them in the butt later on, which the Republicans are wont do do.

If anything, bi-partisan is a smart move. It pulls the rug out from under Republicans.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac

Republicans will say it's partisan if biden sneezes. We are letting fascist insurrectionists roam free and plot their next move because you're worried about the way they'll complain about it, even though they're going to complain about everything anyway. They'll NEVER be like - well biden let the insurrectionists and trump go free, so I'm willing to give him a chance. NEVER. They're 1000% opposed to biden and any dem no matter what. So give them something to really cry about - justice.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-27 01:47 PM | Reply

You know what's going on. I know you do. It's how law enforcement works.

First you have to catch all the little fish who, in turn, give you all the evidence you need to catch the big fish. In the case of Donald Trump, it wouldn't be prudent to go into court without an iron clad case. Trump is too slickery to do otherwise.

Let's let the law do it's job. There's more going on behind the scenes than we now about. Especially at the Manhattan D.A.'s office and Trump. Org. plus the FBI and the DOJ.

Trump may not be the brightest porchlight in town but I'm sure, by now, he knows he's being herded into a blind canyon ~ and he's plenty nervous. Nervous people make mistakes, like January 6th, for example. That was a colossal blunder. Pelosi is going to roast over a hot grill like a plucked chicken.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac

Sure just like she did with his impeachment, where she refused to use her power to investigate all his crimes and instead was just like - let's just get this over with as fast as possible.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-27 01:48 PM | Reply

SPEAKS

"let's just get this over with as fast as possible."

I doubt if that was the case.

She didn't have the votes in the Senate and she was never going to have them. Beating a dead horse is counter-productive.

We're on a whole 'nuther track now. This isn't about impeachment any more.

#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-08-27 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Beating a dead horse is counter-productive.

We're on a whole 'nuther track now. This isn't about impeachment any more.

#14 | Posted by Twinpac

Uncovering a criminal's crimes is not counter productive. If she was never going to have the votes, then why not use her power to expose the truth and make republicans look corrupt for protecting him?

Impeachment was the last time dems let trump off the hook for the sake of "moving on".

Now they're going to do it again, then he'll come back, beat them, and never leave power.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-27 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

try to sell it as insurrection

#3 | Posted by humtake

That dog doesn't hunt.

No other has tried to storm the capitol to overturn an election results. Disclaim, ignore, or trying to redirect the topic, doesn't change facts. They were encouraged and egged on to do so by Trump and his fellows. It was broadcast on national tv for all to see.

#16 | Posted by BBQ at 2021-08-27 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I once stormed a building to overturn election results. Coke Classic still was put back in place of the New Coke.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-08-27 03:26 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY BBQ

It should be obvious to all that HUMTAKE wanted the 01/06 insurrection to succeed. He's so damn bad at moralizing because he has no morals.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2021-08-27 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

try to sell it as insurrection

#3 | Posted by humtake

Try to sell it as a tourist visit.

Or undercover antifa

or the same thing as BLM marches.

whatever you do, keep lying about it and maybe people will trust you instead of video footage.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-27 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Sure just like she did with his impeachment, where she refused to use her power to investigate all his crimes and instead was just like - let's just get this over with as fast as possible.

#13 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-08-27 01:48 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Two things, first the GQP was going to fight every Congressional subpoena well past 2020, and the Drumpf Regime gummed up the works in the bureaucracy for even easy and lawful requests like for Dotard's taxes, where the law says they "shall" turn them over, hell, Congress JUST got Mcgahn to agree to testify AFTER the election, he was Muller's key witness and would have been key to the first impeachment. The GQP tilted courts refused to uphold Dem subpoenas and there is no real mechanism for Congress to enforce their subpoenas it's always been expected that people would show up and testify, it's not something congress has had to deal with.

Second, Nancy read the electoral tea leaves correctly, the longer impeachment dragged on, the more juiced the MAGAts got, and the less enthusiastic some suburban swing voters got for Dems. Impeachment and "defund" hurt the Dems in the suburbs, which caused them to lose seats. Had they dragged it out, examined all his well-known crimes, the Dems might have lost the House.

Don't doubt Nancy, she is the most skilled politician I've ever seen, she's brilliant, ruthless when she has to be, and smooth as glass when that's called for. If the Dems manage to get both infrastructure bills to President Biden's desk, it will be 75% Nancy's doing.

Twinpac is correct, justice moves slowly, especially when your target is a snake like Combover Quisling, as the saying goes, if you shoot at the king you'd best not miss. Even the Manhattan DA and NYAG are taking it slowly, notice no news recently? Don't forget that Justice was hollowed out by Dotard's AGs, and there are likely still MAGAts working there laying low and planting landmines, so AG Garland has been fighting with at least one arm tied behind his back. Things are improving, but getting staffed back up takes time. Remember also that Drumpf's people refused to brief the incoming Biden team, so rather than hitting the ground running, they hit the ground in neutral, and had to get up to speed on their own. That was evident with what's happening in Afghanistan and what's happening with the prosecution of the insurrectionists. One final note, a lot of time has been taken undoing horrendous Drumpf policies, much of that has to run though Justice because red states will sue to have new policies undone and returned to Dotard's policies, such as the illegal stay in Mexico policy.

#20 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-08-27 08:15 PM | Reply

"justice moves slowly"

150 years from "All men are created equal" to on-paper-only legal equality for blacks.

But maybe that's an unfair narrative, because the Declaration of Independence is just a propaganda piece, its not a legal document.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 08:48 PM | Reply

@#21 ... because the Declaration of Independence is just a propaganda piece ...

Do you think that?

If so, why?

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 09:27 PM | Reply

Of course I think that.

How would you describe the Declaration of Independence?

It's not legally binding.
It makes the case for war.
How is it not propaganda?

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 09:32 PM | Reply

Twinpac is correct, justice moves slowly,

#20 | Posted by _Gunslinger_

Well INJUSTICE does not. And INJUSTICE has already rigged the game so that repubs will win in 2022 no matter what. Then 2024. And every election after that.

If dems don't speed justice up, there will be no justice.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-28 02:45 PM | Reply

SPEAKS
" trump is still walking around a free man"
You know what's going on. I know you do. It's how law enforcement works.
First you have to catch all the little fish who, in turn, give you all the evidence you need to catch the big fish. In the case of Donald Trump, it wouldn't be prudent to go into court without an iron clad case. Trump is too slickery to do otherwise.
Let's let the law do it's job. There's more going on behind the scenes than we now about. Especially at the Manhattan D.A.'s office and Trump. Org. plus the FBI and the DOJ.
Trump may not be the brightest porchlight in town but I'm sure, by now, he knows he's being herded into a blind canyon ~ and he's plenty nervous. Nervous people make mistakes, like January 6th, for example. That was a colossal blunder. Pelosi is going to roast over a hot grill like a plucked chicken.
#10 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

We all saw it, hell the whole world saw it. He laid the groundwork for months if not years leading up to 11/2020. We all watched it live for 2 months after the election culminating on the morning of 1/6 when he and his minions fired up the crowd and fired them at the Capitol. He should have been arrested that day and held without bail. ------- is a national security threat.

When the powers that be want something to happen, it happens quickly. When they don't it is delayed. The purpose of the delay is to allow the act to become forgotten, to lessen the emotional toll of doing nothing. Allow other things to happen to distract and sooner or later, any action no longer seems justified. That what happened really wasn't that bad.

Dems don't want to do anything with -------. That is why nothing is happening. Not a search for justice or investigations or anything. They want to keep the status quo. I figure they have based their calculus on a perception that ------- is a albatross on republicans, that a free ------- does more harm to the repubs than to dems.

Well, that is wrong, ------- is a menace to out national security.

You think if he runs in 2024 he won't win the nomination? You think if he wins the nomination that repubs won't rally around him? You think that given all the state level shenanigans going on that he wouldn't win a general election? Well you are deceiving yourself.

Dems had their best chance with the 2nd impeachment. Drag the repubs and ------- through an endless trial, day in and day out make them defend or deny the lies and insanity of qnon and -------.

But no, that would have been hard.

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-08-28 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

She didn't have the votes in the Senate and she was never going to have them. Beating a dead horse is counter-productive.
We're on a whole 'nuther track now. This isn't about impeachment any more.
#14 | POSTED BY TWINPAC A

Twin, you are 100% wrong.

Consider Hillary and Benghazi. I would argue that that issue is a big reason why she lost in 2016. And why was it an issue? Because republicans beat that dead horse into atoms.

And that strategy worked.

Impeachment was the dems best chance to destroy republicans and -------. We had them down after 1/6 as most Americans were shocked and scared by 1/6. Impeachment and putting ------- and qanon on trial was the best strategy. Make every single republican go on record, under oath, either supporting the qanon insanity and -------'s election lies. every single day make Americans see and remember how we got here. An endless trial would serve dems long term goals the best.

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-08-28 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Two things, first the GQP was going to fight every Congressional subpoena well past 2020, and the Drumpf Regime gummed up the works in the bureaucracy for even easy and lawful requests like for Dotard's taxes, where the law says they "shall" turn them over, hell, Congress JUST got Mcgahn to agree to testify AFTER the election, he was Muller's key witness and would have been key to the first impeachment. The GQP tilted courts refused to uphold Dem subpoenas and there is no real mechanism for Congress to enforce their subpoenas it's always been expected that people would show up and testify, it's not something congress has had to deal with.
Second, Nancy read the electoral tea leaves correctly, the longer impeachment dragged on, the more juiced the MAGAts got, and the less enthusiastic some suburban swing voters got for Dems. Impeachment and "defund" hurt the Dems in the suburbs, which caused them to lose seats. Had they dragged it out, examined all his well-known crimes, the Dems might have lost the House.
Don't doubt Nancy, she is the most skilled politician I've ever seen, she's brilliant, ruthless when she has to be, and smooth as glass when that's called for. If the Dems manage to get both infrastructure bills to President Biden's desk, it will be 75% Nancy's doing.
Twinpac is correct, justice moves slowly, especially when your target is a snake like Combover Quisling, as the saying goes, if you shoot at the king you'd best not miss. Even the Manhattan DA and NYAG are taking it slowly, notice no news recently? Don't forget that Justice was hollowed out by Dotard's AGs, and there are likely still MAGAts working there laying low and planting landmines, so AG Garland has been fighting with at least one arm tied behind his back. Things are improving, but getting staffed back up takes time. Remember also that Drumpf's people refused to brief the incoming Biden team, so rather than hitting the ground running, they hit the ground in neutral, and had to get up to speed on their own. That was evident with what's happening in Afghanistan and what's happening with the prosecution of the insurrectionists. One final note, a lot of time has been taken undoing horrendous Drumpf policies, much of that has to run though Justice because red states will sue to have new policies undone and returned to Dotard's policies, such as the illegal stay in Mexico policy.

#20 | POSTED BY _GUNSLINGER_ A

Welcome to Fantasy Island!!!

Remember how everyone was all excited about how the SDNY and NYAG were gonna git! ------- on 1/21/21 cause they were all lined up and ready to go and everyone had a ----- over seeing ------- in an orange jumpsuit.

Well that ------ was quite dry. We got what? A CFO or something on some pittance of a tax avoidance scheme. OOOHHH WOW!!! Color me not impressed.

Stop making excuses for an inept and impotent democratic response to -------. It is embarrassing

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-08-28 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't doubt Nancy, she is the most skilled politician I've ever seen, she's brilliant, ruthless when she has to be, and smooth as glass when that's called for.

#20 | Posted by _Gunslinger_

Based on what? She lost the house to republicans during obama. Gave us watered down health care written by the insurance industry. Failed to fully investigate trump TWICE. And isn't doing anything about the fascist terrorists in her own building.

If that's success, what would failure look like?

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-28 06:39 PM | Reply

"She lost the house to republicans during obama."

Huh? She lost all those elections?

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 06:47 PM | Reply

Huh? She lost all those elections?

#29 | Posted by snoofy

It's not a good sign of your leadership when you have to hand control over to the other side.

And she's about to have to do it again.

So she'll have passed up on investigating trump TWICE, and handed the keys back to republicans TWICE. Maybe there's a connection there.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-28 07:50 PM | Reply

"So she'll have passed up on investigating trump TWICE"

Trump was in fact impeached, that doesn't count?

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 08:02 PM | Reply

Trump was in fact impeached, that doesn't count?

#31 | Posted by snoofy

Hardly. The impeachment was her opportunity to use the power of federal investigation to expose trump the world. She passed and said let's just focus on one little thing and get it over with.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-28 08:25 PM | Reply

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