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Friday, August 27, 2021

What if paid work were no longer the centerpiece of American life?

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I'm waiting for the death of my job. Five more years!

#1 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-27 07:54 PM | Reply

I was glad to kiss my job goodbye.

I traded my high heel shoes and business suits for cutoffs and t-shirts.

#2 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-08-27 08:55 PM | Reply

Too much has revolved around "your job" in our Country.

One primo example, why should health benefits require an employer to sponsor you for those benefits?


A less primo example, when I go to social events one of the first questions I am asked by those who do not know me is, "why do you do?"

My answer is... I sit around the house all day, doing nothing besides posting on message boards.

Steeleye Span - Alison Gross (music video)
www.youtube.com

(I felt I had to note it was a music video due to the group involved...)

((Steeleye Span was a great rock group that put old folk songs to rock music....))

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 08:55 PM | Reply

#2 pics ? Please.

#4 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-08-27 09:04 PM | Reply

This article does an amazing job of completely ignoring economics.

#5 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-08-27 09:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#5 ... This article does an amazing job of completely ignoring economics. ...

In what way?

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 09:18 PM | Reply

6

In virtually every way

Financially
Politically
This country won't support this forever.

Not even much longer.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-27 09:24 PM | Reply

"This country won't support this forever."

How could it?

"Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

You think that is sustainable?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 09:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7 ... In virtually every way ...

You seem to have some rather certain concerns about the article.

Care to express them specifically?

thx.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 09:30 PM | Reply

The article poses questions which is fine.

But I'll conclude that the job will remain the centerpiece of American society.

No other path

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-27 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"But I'll conclude that the job will remain the centerpiece of American society."

Not the family?
Not faith?
Not community?

Your GOP True colors are showing.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 09:37 PM | Reply

@#10 ... The article poses questions which is fine ...

So you got nothing to substantiate your comment about the article "This article does an amazing job of completely ignoring economics in virtually every way?"

thx for your follow-up.


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 09:48 PM | Reply

"But I'll conclude"

What do the millennials, gen z, and gen alpha think is their centerpiece, fool?

I'll conclude you and your ego are overly optimistic in your abilities

#13 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-08-27 10:08 PM | Reply

Gen alpha. Is that the Zoomers?

I still get a chuckle when Boomers call people in their teens and twenties "Millennials."

Maybe the next generation will be Perennials, able to live forever as we find cures for cancer, etc.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 10:14 PM | Reply

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#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 10:17 PM | Reply

@#14 ... able to live forever ...

Alphaville - Forever Young
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...
Forever young, I want to be forever young
Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever?
Forever young, I want to be forever young
Do you really want to live forever? Forever young
...

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 10:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is the article based in economic theory in any way?

It's fine if it's not. I'm not criticizing the article.

I'm also not criticizing any generation.

I'm merely pointing out that the tornado you might think a generation can survive not making work the centerpiece is an F5

Not a brisk breeze

Neither political party will stand for it.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-27 10:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How on earth do you any of you think we can accomplish ANYTHING suggested in that article?

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-27 10:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#18 Has anyone accomplished any of those things?

If so, why can't we?

If not, you might me right.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 10:44 PM | Reply

@#17 ... Is the article based in economic theory in any way? ...

Once again, I'll ask for your specific concerns.

thx.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 10:54 PM | Reply

@#1 . ... Is the article based in economic theory in any way? ...

fwiw, your comment seems to be asking for others to justify your opinion.

Jus' sayin'


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 10:57 PM | Reply

"I'm merely pointing out that the tornado you might think a generation can survive not making work the centerpiece is an F5"

Aren't there like three generations on the Democrat Plantation by now?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 10:59 PM | Reply

This country has no ... .

UBI
Livable minimum wage
Universal Heath care

That's just a small list off the top of my head. There is more.

Where do you think imagine we are going to have a society described in the article?

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-27 11:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

 

@#23 ... Where do you think imagine we are going to have a society described in the article? ...

Once again, your comment asks for others to justify your opinion.

And you still have not given any reason whatsoever for your comment in #17, "Is the article based in economic theory in any way?".

I'll ask once more, what are your specific concerns about the economic theory expressed in the article?

Specific.

Concerns.

Enumerated would be nice, but not required.

thx.

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-27 11:30 PM | Reply

This country has no ... .
UBI
Livable minimum wage
Universal Heath care
#23 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Eberly,
Do you want your country to have those things?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-27 11:34 PM | Reply

Work won't always be the centerpiece. How could it be. Automation is eliminating jobs left and right. Eventually full employment won't be possible. Went to Home Depot today. 1 cashier and 5 lanes of self checkout. Sae thing at the grocery stores. Jobs are slowly but surely going away.

#26 | Posted by byrdman at 2021-08-27 11:35 PM | Reply

-Work won't always be the centerpiece. How could it be. Automation is eliminating jobs left and right.

Automation has been impacting jobs for over 100 years.

The paradigm shifts constantly but work will always be the centerpiece.

-Went to Home Depot today. 1 cashier and 5 lanes of self checkout. Sae thing at the grocery stores. Jobs are slowly but surely going away.

And yet they are needing jobs filled. Go anywhere and they are desperate for help.

You're using anecdotal evidence right not to tell yourself jobs are going away?

LOL....wait until we have a slowdown and employers don't need any help.....then you can say jobs are gone and not coming back.

In any case it doesn't matter.....we aren't going to pay people to not work in perpetuity.

We make not working fairly painful. That won't change

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-28 08:14 AM | Reply

-And you still have not given any reason whatsoever for your comment in #17, "Is the article based in economic theory in any way?".

It was a question...not a comment. Do you understand the difference?

You can answer it or not. I won't hold you to an answer.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-28 08:15 AM | Reply

-I'll ask once more, what are your specific concerns about the economic theory expressed in the article?

It's not a concern...it's an observation there is no real basis of economic theory.

I

have

no

specific

concerns

You're welcome to retort with something FROM the article

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-28 08:17 AM | Reply

I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
And heaven knows I'm miserable now

-The Smiths

My mother says to get a job
But she don't like the one she got.

-Green Day

#30 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-08-28 09:34 AM | Reply

Get a job, sha na na na, sha na na na
Sha na na na, sha na na na na
Sha na na na, sha na na na na
Sha na na na, sha na na na na
Sha na na na, sha na na na na

#31 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-08-28 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Excellent article, and overdue by about
30 years. What Tightie Righties (like
Bomber and Eberly) fail to understand is that
the remnants of the Middle Class have begun to
see through the Fable of American Corporate Life, and the vast majority of them are left yearning for more. And why not? Most American jobs don't pay a living wage, other than meeting the 'bare necessities'. And who wants to live like a dog, going from paycheck to paycheck and from meal to meal? The 'jig is up', and Americans realize that they have other options. Why sweat your life's blood away working for an over class, when with a little ingenuity and a small loan, you can start up your on website to sell products online? Why indeed? A large portion of America is waking to the 'screw the rich' attitude that I've, (and other economists much smarter than I) have long seen coming. And Good! The rich deserve this beast they've wrought, by decades of underpaying and overworking their employees.

#32 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-08-28 11:07 AM | Reply

"What Tightie Righties (like
Bomber and Eberly) fail to understand is that
the remnants of the Middle Class have begun to
see through the Fable of American Corporate Life, and the vast majority of them are left yearning for more."

What naive people like earthmuse fail to understand is that people are NOT beginning to see through anything of the sort.

He might want them to see through that but they aren't.

Not even close.

People aren't that enlightened.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2021-08-28 12:46 PM | Reply

I disagree Eberly. I think a lot of people know the game but that doesn't necessarily mean they can change the rules. There's been several examples given of people leaving the daily grind to strike out on their own using the internet but everyone is not in a situation where they can do that.
To be sure there's still a lot of folks buying into the myth that hard work and playing by the rules brings success.
I don't think you can be successful without putting in a lot of hard work, but it is no way guaranteed...not even close.

#34 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-08-28 03:06 PM | Reply

"To be sure there's still a lot of folks buying into the myth that hard work and playing by the rules brings success."

Trump did a lot to pull back the curtain on that myth.

Born rich, squandered every opportunity he had -- yet he still became President.

His supporters likewise harbor tremendous failure in their personal lives. He validates them. It's a personal thing. The GOP doesn't even have a platform any more. Just a cult leader.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 03:11 PM | Reply

"I don't think you can be successful without putting in a lot of hard work, but it is no way guaranteed...not even close."

Trump did a lot to reinforce that belief too.

Mostly by not putting in a lot of hard work.

He spent most of his time tweeting, golfing, and doing "executive time" activities alone all morning.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 03:16 PM | Reply

People aren't that enlightened.
#33 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Trumpers aren't.
You are.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 03:31 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
I don't think of Trump as successful, do you?

#38 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-08-28 03:58 PM | Reply

No jobs would turn us all into incels who can't-------- because women aren't attracted to men who don't work and have no drive.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-08-28 06:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#39 Consuder that people with drive are the ones who don't want to spend and hour communing each way to sit in a cubicle for eight hours.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 06:45 PM | Reply

I don't think of Trump as successful, do you?
#38 | POSTED BY SCOTTE

Trumpers do.
No one else does.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-28 06:46 PM | Reply

The free money checks won't last forever and even the rent subsidies will come to an end.

It will be a rough transition going back to work and having less money to live on.

The last couple of years some people have discovered a life of ease they've never had and it has ruined them.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-08-28 10:51 PM | Reply

Having less money to play with won't matter because you'll have less time to spend it anyway.

#43 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-08-28 10:52 PM | Reply

"The last couple of years some people have discovered a life of ease they've never had ... "

Oh, FFS.

We've officially entered The Twilight Zone.

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-08-28 11:20 PM | Reply

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