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Tuesday, August 31, 2021

No matter how you may feel about how our departure from Afghanistan was done, you have to give credit to the US Commanding General on the ground during the evacuation, Maj. Gen. Chris Donahue, as he was the LAST American soldier to board the LAST military aircraft leaving the Kabul airport.

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As it should be. The Captain is always the last to abandon a sinking ship.

#1 | Posted by jakester at 2021-08-30 11:34 PM | Reply

I'm sure that he wasn't, but it is apt propaganda for an invasion and occupation based on lies.

#2 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2021-08-31 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Great photo op I suppose, but what about all the Americans and allies left behind.
This situation just went from bad to worse.

#3 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-08-31 10:32 AM | Reply

@#3 ... This situation just went from bad to worse. ...

The situation was always going to get much worse once the US started to, and actually, leave Afghanistan.

As I have written many times, there is no real government in Afghanistan. There hasn't been one for years (decades?). The only reason Afghanistan was as "peaceful" as it had been was the US presence to prop up the failed government.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-31 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Victorious Taliban focus on governing after US withdrawal
apnews.com

...The Taliban reveled in their victory after the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, reiterating their pledge Tuesday to bring peace and security to the country after decades of war. Their anxious citizens, meanwhile, are waiting to see what the new order looks like.

Having humbled the world's most powerful military, the Taliban now face the challenge of governing a nation of 38 million people that relies heavily on international aid, and imposing some form of Islamic rule on a population that is far more educated and cosmopolitan than it was when the group last governed Afghanistan in the late 1990s.

Thousands who had worked with the U.S. and its allies, as well as up to 200 Americans, remained in the country after the massive airlift ended with the last U.S. soldiers flying out of Kabul international airport just before midnight Monday.

Hours later, turbaned Taliban leaders flanked by fighters from the group's elite Badri unit toured the abandoned airport and posed for photos....


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-31 11:43 AM | Reply

Congrats to Biden for having the courage to end the Fiasco Bush started.

The Americans in Afghanistan want to be there.

Anyone who wants to fight the Taliban should nut up or shut up, and keep their hands off tax dollars.

#6 | Posted by bored at 2021-08-31 12:22 PM | Reply

@#6 ... he Americans in Afghanistan want to be there. ...

Those that don't want to be there (probably because they were unable to get to the airport) will be extracted via diplomacy instead of military.

The Taliban have said they are not opposed to Americans leaving and have committed to helping it occur. Whether that is just an empty promise remains to be seen, though.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-31 12:35 PM | Reply

"Those that don't want to be there (probably because they were unable to get to the airport) will be extracted via diplomacy instead of military."

Why would you ever go to Afghanistan.

And more importantly, why would you not race to get out when it became clear that there was going to be a change in leadership.

Lezz be honest...some very likely want to be there.

#8 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-08-31 02:42 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Why would you ever go to Afghanistan. ...

The people to ask that question are those who voluntarily went to Afghanistan.

... why would you not race to get out when it became clear that there was going to be a change in leadership. ...

Apparently some did not, or tried and were unsuccessful.

I just saw that the Sec Gen of NATO said that NATO will be assisting those who want to get out of Afghanistan to leave Afghanistan.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-31 02:48 PM | Reply

I'm completely flummoxed as to why there are still Americans in Afghanistan, as this is written on August 31. Haven't these people.been paying attention to what has been happening around them? What purpose greater than life and limb could they be accomplishing that required them to remain, or did not cause them to recognize the danger they were in? We're beginning to hear Oh, I couldn't leave these poor Afghani children/old folks/puppies' or some other nonsense already. Didn't these dorks ever hear the one about God helping those who help themselves or not putting some higher power to the test?

I suspect that some Americans will still be able to get out, but others will be branded as spies and held for torture, ransom or some propaganda purpose. GOPers in Congress will then raise a fuss that Diamond Joe left Americans behind, ignoring the fact that these folks were called to leave, probably many times, and given a deadline in which to act to save themselves, and that they ignored the calls and beckoning. This is not the movie version of Escape from Kabul', this is the real version, and these folks have only themselves to blame for the world of trouble they are now in ...

#10 | Posted by catdog at 2021-08-31 02:55 PM | Reply

"Apparently some did not, or tried and were unsuccessful."

From my vantage point in a Refugee staging area...I think that many of them are going to want to go back.

Germany is a country where the national food is a fried pork cutlet, and the national drink contains alcohol.

Those who would die upon return would likely stay, but hate it. I think a lot more would go back if they thought they would be able to survive and "prosper" under am Islamic regime.

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-08-31 03:00 PM | Reply

I don't quite see the urgency of the concern here.

Has the Taliban stated they will kill every American still in Afghanistan starting on September 1? If so, I missed that.

I would imagine some Americans are there for reasons that seem good to them, and some are there because they're really stupid. And I'm not sure how much Uncle Sam should do much in either case.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-31 03:02 PM | Reply

#12

I have to wonder how many are there operating under the Rachel Corrie assumption? That their unique American exceptionalism means that they can do whatever they want and the adversary will cower in fear of some awesome American response.

#13 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-08-31 03:12 PM | Reply

See Also: The Pat Tillman assumption.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-31 03:19 PM | Reply

Lamplighter, I agree with your statement of the failed government being propped up by the US I just think the withdrawal could have been handled better.
I don't understand why we would leave billions in military gear and abandon allies and Americans. I hope the Taliban keeps their word but I'm doubtful.

#15 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-08-31 03:20 PM | Reply

I just think the withdrawal could have been handled better."

Fine.
Give it a grade.
Then grade our other withdrawals.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-31 03:29 PM | Reply

@#15 ... I just think the withdrawal could have been handled better. ...

As do I.

The withdrawal was not perfect, I doubt if any are.

I also think it is too soon to get a good handle on what could have been done to make the withdrawal go more smoothly.


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-08-31 03:50 PM | Reply

How long did the withdrawal from Germany, or Japan, or Korea take?

#18 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2021-08-31 04:08 PM | Reply

Still one of my favorite headlines from The Onion:

U.S. Marines To Withdraw From Vietnamese Girl

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-08-31 04:17 PM | Reply

I don't understand why we would leave billions in military gear...

That it took 20 years move in there? Afghanistan is landlocked so you can't just pack it on a ship and leave. Besides, now they have to buy $Billions more gear to replace it which is good for the economy.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-08-31 04:54 PM | Reply

"I don't understand why we would leave billions in military gear..."

We left the Afghan army after stocking them up for 20 years... would have been a dick move to destroy the Afghans materials since we had hoped they would stand on their own.

Shouldn't matter, without spare parts it will all be useless soon enough... but the republicans will still cry about it.

#21 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-08-31 05:22 PM | Reply

Trump is now demanding that the Taliban return all of the equipment that we left behind, and if they don't, then we should mount a military operation and go back in and take it away from them:

Trump: US should take military action if Taliban don't return billions in equipment

thehill.com

OCU

#22 | Posted by OCUser at 2021-08-31 05:49 PM | Reply

Trump is now demanding...

Private citizen Lewzer can go and get it himself if he wants it that bad. He can take Kid Rock and Nugent to help out.

#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-08-31 05:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

but what about all the Americans and allies left behind.
This situation just went from bad to worse.

#3 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-08-31 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's not like they had a year and a half to make plans to get out after Fat Nixon surrendered to the Taliban.

They could have walked out in that time frame.

#24 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-09-01 09:55 AM | Reply

Trump: US should take military action if Taliban don't return billions in equipment

So the pile of feces that surrendered to the Taliban to score election year points that didn't work wants the US to invade again to get back equipment that was destroyed.

Brilliant.

Easy to see how he bankrupted a casino.

He is an idiots idea of a genius.

#25 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-09-01 09:57 AM | Reply

I just think the withdrawal could have been handled better.

YEAH!

We should have stayed until everyone who had a year and a half to make plans to get out finally decide to get around to it.

And then ISIS-K could blow up another 13 US soldiers....or a hundred...or more.

BTW, how many Kurds did Fat Nixon airlift out of Turkey after he sold them out?

#26 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-09-01 10:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"He is an idiots idea of a genius."

He's a poor man's idea of a rich man -- of what a rich man would do with his riches: Fly a private jet to his private mansions, buy trophy wives just to trade them in after they give him a child and are uses up, buy a teenage beauty pageant so he can wander around the girls locker room ogling the merchsndise. Pay off all the women he sexually abuses with hush money.

He's pretty much the Ayn Rand Superman the GOP has been creaming their jeans over as long as I've been alive. He's the living embodiment of Financial Might Makes Right, which makes him a Capitalist's wet dream too.

He won the GOP because he represents everything the GOP stands for. Racism and xenophobia too.

He's Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-01 10:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Then grade our other withdrawals.

#16 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Yeah!

Then send them all back to surrender and withdrawal school. We all need to learn how to surrender better don't you think?

Pretty sure this was all covered in Surrendering 101.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-09-01 02:10 PM | Reply

don't let the door hitcha where Allah splitcha

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-09-01 11:41 PM | Reply

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